If there are so many of these "muslims" who want to impose their value system on us, where are the grass roots political parties or even a spokesperson willing to speak out about it? Perhaps they exist but I would expect the Bolt's of this world to make a big deal about them.

Where are your family from, I have been working around Baqofeh lately.

Come to Sydney and witness it first hand

They're Assyrians from the north of Iraq.

If there are so many of these "muslims" who want to impose their value system on us, where are the grass roots political parties or even a spokesperson willing to speak out about it? Perhaps they exist but I would expect the Bolt's of this world to make a big deal about them.

Is there a "whiter" capital city in Australia besides Adelaide?

Canberra maybe?

The "multicultural" experience varies depending on what city you are in.

Not too many radical Moslem clerics or orthodox Jews in Gundagai or Mareeba.

Sydney is a completely different story all together.

If there are so many of these "muslims" who want to impose their value system on us, where are the grass roots political parties or even a spokesperson willing to speak out about it? Perhaps they exist but I would expect the Bolt's of this world to make a big deal about them.

Why do they have to organise politically? These are people who reject democracy, why would they want to form parties and try to be democratically elected? Look at at Middle East, it's not like ISIS are preselectint candidates for the upcoming elections, they are achieving their ideological aims through violence and force.

Muslim children walk out when national anthem is sung

ANDREW JEFFERSON
Herald Sun
October 26, 2015 5:02PM

A VICTORIAN primary school has been criticised for allowing Muslim children to walk out of assembly while the national anthem was sung.

Cranbourne Carlisle Primary School says a religious month of mourning is the reason Islamic children are able to opt out of singing or listening to the anthem.

Lorraine McCurdy, who has two grandchildren at the school, told 3AW she was furious when school officials invited students to leave during Advance Australia Fair.

“Two children got up and said `welcome to our assembly’ with that a teacher came forward and said all those who feel it’s against their culture may leave the room,” Ms McCurdy said.

“With that about 30 or 40 children got up and left the room.

“We sang the national anthem and they all came back in.

“I saw red, I’m Australian and I felt ‘you don’t walk out on my national anthem, that’s showing respect to my country.”

Independent Senator for Tasmania Jacqui Lambie also hit out at the school, which promotes the ethos of ‘Many Cultures, One Community.’

“I find that absolutely devastating, we should all be singing the Australian national anthem and we should be doing that with pride,” Senator Lambie said.

“That’s part of us.

“I find these schools that are allowing this to happen disgusting.

“I don’t think religion needs to be brought into the national anthem.

“We should all be proud to be Australians and proud to sing the national anthem”

Principal Cheryl Irving said during the month of Muharram Shi’a Muslims do not take part in joyous events, such as listening to music or singing, as it was a period of mourning.

“Muharram is a Shi’a cultural observation marking the death of Imam Hussein,” Ms Irving said. “This year it falls between Tuesday October 13 and Thursday November 12.

“Prior to last week’s Years 2-6 assembly, in respect of this religious observance, students were given the opportunity to leave the hall before music was played.

“The students then rejoined the assembly at the conclusion of the music.”

Kuranda Seyit, secretary of the Islamic Council of Victoria, said he understood the school’s sentiments but called on more flexibility.

“I’m a Sunni Muslim myself but I understand Shi’a sensitivities and for them this is a very holy time,” Mr Seyit said.

“It’s a time when they are encouraged to reflect on the martyrdom of Imam Hussein and abstain from all forms of celebrations.

“However for young children I think things like these should be assessed on their merits and a balance found.

“People need to remember that these Muslim children are not against the Australian national anthem but are not allowed to be deemed to be celebrating.

“Maybe there could be a bit more flexibility.”

In a statement, the Department of Education said it supported the school.

“The Department supports our schools to be inclusive for all students, this includes understanding or respecting religious cultural observances.

“From 2016, the new Victorian curriculum will include new subjects such as respectful relationships, world views and ethical understanding, helping to build more inclusive schools and communities.”

Maybe they should start building more places of worship (all variations) in Canberra so Pollies can get an idea of what its like coexist with different religions. Maybe it would open their eyes a bit more.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/muslim-children-walk-out-when-national-anthem-is-sung/story-fni0fit3-1227582881588


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Maybe they should start building more places of worship (all variations) in Canberra so Pollies can get an idea of what its like coexist with different religions. Maybe it would open their eyes a bit more.

@StiflersMom

Totally agree with your views and let us accept that the Islamic people will NEVER mix in or assimilate in any western country and boy wait and see what happens to the European countries next few years.
Fifteen years ago I asked a business rep. why the Muslims are the way they are, and he bluntly told me they are told NOT to mix with us from their Imams or parents.
As for me I feel proud to be Australian first and a proud Greek second and have here since 1956.
Sorry but brace for very difficult times ahead worldwide.
Algreco

@StiflersMom

Totally agree with your views and let us accept that the Islamic people will NEVER mix in or assimilate in any western country and boy wait and see what happens to the European countries next few years.
Fifteen years ago I asked a business rep. why the Muslims are the way they are, and he bluntly told me they are told NOT to mix with us from their Imams or parents.
As for me I feel proud to be Australian first and a proud Greek second and have here since 1956.
Sorry but brace for very difficult times ahead worldwide.
Algreco

Thanks, really appreciate it , highlighted the most eminent part

Edited by StiflersMom: 26/10/2015 09:06:25 PM

The political definition of the word "assimilation":

All migrant groups to Australia must assimilate by giving up all their foreign allegiances or they can "fuck off" while hypocritical cultural cringers are allowed to pour scorn on any Australian-born who has the nerve to want our own Australian head of state instead of a foreign one, and/or who dares mentions the removal of a foreign flag from the canton of the Australian flag, and/or who requests the replacement of the part of "oath of allegiance" which forces Australians to swear allegiance to a foreign monarch (rather than only to the Australian people) before they can hold a high position of public service be it in the government, judiciary or the military.

ps. now waits for the typical squeals of faux outrage :-({|= and pathetic hypocritical excuses for why one particular foreign allegiance is still needed to be imposed on all of us Aussies in the 21st century :roll:.

The political definition of the word "assimilation":

All migrant groups to Australia must assimilate by giving up all their foreign allegiances or they can "fuck off" while hypocritical cultural cringers are allowed to pour scorn on any Australian-born who has the nerve to want our own Australian head of state instead of a foreign one, and/or who dares mentions the removal of a foreign flag from the canton of the Australian flag, and/or who requests the replacement of the part of "oath of allegiance" which forces Australians to swear allegiance to a foreign monarch (rather than only to the Australian people) before they can hold a high position of public service be it in the government, judiciary or the military.

ps. now waits for the typical squeals of faux outrage :-({|= and pathetic hypocritical excuses for why one particular foreign allegiance is still needed to be imposed on all of us Aussies in the 21st century :roll:.

Thats got to be the biggest load of shit ive ever heard. Bosnians are muslims amd assimlate well . Kosovars , ethnic russians at al, the problem is we expect them to assimalate but nothing is said when yiya's and nonas dont dpeak any english

Thats got to be the biggest load of shit ive ever heard. Bosnians are muslims amd assimlate well . Kosovars , ethnic russians at al, the problem is we expect them to assimalate but nothing is said when yiya's and nonas dont dpeak any english

Muh whataboutisms

Please stop it's a tiring argument

Edited by 433: 27/10/2015 12:34:14 AM