probably right wingers

Apparently they shot up as disabled centre. A couple of them have been shot dead after engaging SWAT police in as firefight. Apparently 1 gunman may still be on the loose.

Fuckin' Murica.

How is these incidents not considered terrorist attacks? Oh yeah, wait they're not Muslims.

Killing disabled people. Typical right wing mentality.

I definitely noted the silence on this forum about that particular incident...

Hello ricecrackers :)

-PB

The kid tries hard

Well it is right wingers who, by & large, want gun laws protected
Its just 'politically correct' denial to claim otherwise

Yep. Every right winger who supports these crazy laws has blood on their hands today.

Please stop, it's really fucking annoying.

I assume you're trying to be ironic here ie. the similar reaction some conveyed against Muslims following the Paris attack.

Either way you come off like a massive fuckwit.

Wow I think I just got dumber after reading this thread.

This place is a chore now days.

You cant discuss ANY football without a torrent of 'your shit supporters' 4 pages long.

Now 14 people are dead and its a left wing - right wing pissing contest.

Not really. Just a couple of trolls trying to bait people.

Has there been any actual information about what the motivation was?

The only thing I saw was some mention of a potential dispute of some kind occurring in the hours beforehand. But obviously they seem to have been far too organised for it to be a spur of the moment thing.

The location doesn't seem to be an obvious target for either islamist terrorists or right wing terrorists....

One of the guys name is Syed Farook, neighbors said that 4 middle eastern men moved in next door and worked up late at night in the garage and she was very suspicious. When you include tactical vests, the weapons and explosives, The FBI getting involved it does not sound like a typical work place revenge shooting. Most news shows are leaning towards home grown terrorists, but still too early to tell.

I guess Obama is baiting the American public

I know man. I respect you and alot of people on this forum. But it is such a waste of time sifting through the tolls to get to legitimate comments on anything from any point of view.

Agreed, becoming tiresome.

Yep agreed.

The ability to mute certain posters would be a great feature on this forum.

I was really surprised that the US media picked up on this. Some of the news anchors were questioning why the stories were not running with the tag, christian terrorists attacks planned parenthood clinic.

You are a certified idiot.

It would be nice if we could discuss these significant events maturely without the need to make it personal :)

Home grown terrorists wearing tactical gear usually points to right wing extremists.

Agreed. Ad hominem logical fallacies (personal attacks) show a rationality weakness to engage with issues.
That said, what people label as 'legitimate comments' says to me that they set the cognitive bar pretty low, relatively.

It avoids the issue of access to guns and why it's access is propagated

Absolutely you're right.
Obama has called again for gun reforms in wake of this tragedy. This is the real problem here, how to deny citizens the means from being able to kill so easily. That any citizen can walk into their local supermarket and purchase automatic weapons we shouldnt be surprised at the increasing frequency of these events.

Both Right and Left have their nutters..get a fucking clue

But its mainly the right base that is responsible for the gun laws that enable these shootings to take place with such regularity. Most lefties are staunchly opposed to easy gun ownership.

Hence why, in light of comments about 'trolls', I said that Obama must be trolling the American public