Not true and I am not a multi.
If you think we are the same person then provide proof.
If you can provide proof then we should both be banned permanently.

yup. 😀
trident = murdoch rags

Apparently Syed Farook went to Saudi Arabia and brought his wife back to America, also reports they had gopros with them recording everything that happened. No way it was spontaneous when you add up all the facts.

Wrong. Terrorism has nothing to do with weaponry and armour and all to do with political motivation.

That said, this does strike me as terrorism. Initially I thought neo-nazis, they weren't known to be kind to the kindest to the disabled. That said one of the names thats been linked goes by Syed Farook, whom his father said is "very religious (muslim)". It'll be very interesting to see how Allah commanded him to do it, or maybe he just hated the owner. Who knows? Maybe he didn't even do it, information after a shooting is always shaky and he hasn't had his right to appeal yet.

Link facts or get banged

You can be ballsy when you know no one's really listening anymore

Most shooters are obama voting letfies. fact

Definitely not :lol:

Am I the only one that gets the feeling that two accounts in this thread belong to the same person? :-k

Newsfeed of the attack


Many people were shot dead by a small group of people with high powered weapons in tactical gear. That's terrorism. The clear subtext most people were getting from this quote from an FBI official was "We can't confirm if they were brown/Muslim yet"*. Muslim people don't have a monopoly on terrorism, but it's a line that is heavily implied every time an attack takes place.

*Granted, we can only go by what the media has written. The question may have been "were the shooters Muslim?" and then re-framed in the article to suit the agenda, but that's just speculation. As written, it's not a good look for the FBI.

Climate change must be really ramping up :lol:

True. Obama doesnt get enough credit for his courage and strength.
I can only assume that's not a privilege he was born with.

Also, I don't think Republicans are opposing for opposing 's sake.
If George Dubbya was in power, he would be making nothing like the ballsy comments that Obama is and so soon after the incident.

Gravity of issue:
Global warming>>>gun violence>>>terrorism

Media & public weighting of issue:
Terrorism>>>gun violence>>>global warming

Hence why, in light of comments about 'trolls', I said that Obama must be trolling the American public

But its mainly the right base that is responsible for the gun laws that enable these shootings to take place with such regularity. Most lefties are staunchly opposed to easy gun ownership.

Both Right and Left have their nutters..get a fucking clue

Absolutely you're right.
Obama has called again for gun reforms in wake of this tragedy. This is the real problem here, how to deny citizens the means from being able to kill so easily. That any citizen can walk into their local supermarket and purchase automatic weapons we shouldnt be surprised at the increasing frequency of these events.

It avoids the issue of access to guns and why it's access is propagated

Agreed. Ad hominem logical fallacies (personal attacks) show a rationality weakness to engage with issues.
That said, what people label as 'legitimate comments' says to me that they set the cognitive bar pretty low, relatively.

Home grown terrorists wearing tactical gear usually points to right wing extremists.

It would be nice if we could discuss these significant events maturely without the need to make it personal :)

You are a certified idiot.

I was really surprised that the US media picked up on this. Some of the news anchors were questioning why the stories were not running with the tag, christian terrorists attacks planned parenthood clinic.

The ability to mute certain posters would be a great feature on this forum.

Yep agreed.

Agreed, becoming tiresome.

I know man. I respect you and alot of people on this forum. But it is such a waste of time sifting through the tolls to get to legitimate comments on anything from any point of view.

I guess Obama is baiting the American public

One of the guys name is Syed Farook, neighbors said that 4 middle eastern men moved in next door and worked up late at night in the garage and she was very suspicious. When you include tactical vests, the weapons and explosives, The FBI getting involved it does not sound like a typical work place revenge shooting. Most news shows are leaning towards home grown terrorists, but still too early to tell.