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Quote:FFA to trial the use of video evidence during A-League games
Tom Smithies 23 December 2015
AUSTRALIA will volunteer to trial the use of video evidence during A-League games if football’s lawmakers finally give the go-ahead for a competitive test next month.
FIFA’s body that considers changes to the rules of the game is poised to abandon its deep hostility to in-game video evidence for referees, after being told by its two advisory panels that “well-run experiments” are the only way to be sure of how practical the concept is.
The International Football Association Board (IFAB) will meet next month, with several radical moves on the agenda, including the use of sin bins. But it is the possible introduction of video technology that would be the most far-reaching, with pressure growing on FIFA to correct the anomaly where spectators can see within seconds if a decision was correct via their phones, but not the referee.
It follows some extended but unofficial trials, including one in Holland. Now Football Federation Australia is keen to be in the vanguard of any trial that IFAB assents to, using the ¬myriad cameras already at every A-League game through Fox Sports’ coverage.
“FFA will be contacting IFAB and FIFA to express our interest in conducting a trial in the Hyundai A-League,” FFA chief David Gallop said.
“FFA is always looking for ways to introduce broadcast innovations with Fox Sports. The use of video replays would not only help referees, but would enhance the viewer experience.
“The Australian TV sports industry has the expertise and technology, so the A-League would be a perfect competition to extend the trials started in the Netherlands.”
The Dutch trial was suspended under pressure from FIFA, but other leagues — ¬including the MLS — have strongly signalled their wish to be allowed to run something similar in competitive matches.
The review of decisions would be limited to key moments including goals, offsides and penalties, and incidents the referee might have missed that could lead to a red card.
The so-called “fifth official” with access to video could only advise the main referee who would still make the final call, with a strict time limit of a few seconds to pull the game back.
The Dutch experiment suggested that on average one key decision per game would be reversed, with the game not stopped unless the video evidence was instantly compelling.
In a statement last night, FIFA said that IFAB “has been working on potential scenarios and clear protocols for how it could be tested, with the idea that well-run experiments would be the best way to understand the pros and cons of video assistance in full”.
The A-League was one of the first leagues in the world to introduce the use of video evidence retrospectively to penalise players guilty of diving, effectively eliminating it from the competition. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/ffa-to-trial-the-use-of-video-evidence-during-a-league-games/story-fnk6pqot-1227687198843
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Burztur
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Quote:The A-League was one of the first leagues in the world to introduce the use of video evidence retrospectively to penalise players guilty of diving, effectively eliminating it from the competition. Lol
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Buggalugs - you should...
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Might stop Arnie getting ripped off week-in week-out
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Coverdale
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Let's trial an oval ball too hey gallop?
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RedFunk
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Sin bins LOL
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Pr bullshit and a waste of money.
Just worry about the referees
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JP
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Sin bins would be fucking stupid. They would dramatically alter the way football is played.
Also sceptical about video evidence, but at least it wouldn't be changing the fundamentals of the sport...
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JP wrote:Sin bins would be fucking stupid. They would dramatically alter the way football is played.
Also sceptical about video evidence, but at least it wouldn't be changing the fundamentals of the sport... Could you imagine the shit Bes or other characters would get from the crowd if he went to the Sin bin. Should put it right in front of the away supporters. :lol: Edited by Gazzza: 23/12/2015 08:00:46 PM
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aussie scott21
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JP wrote:Sin bins would be fucking stupid. They would dramatically alter the way football is played.
Also sceptical about video evidence, but at least it wouldn't be changing the fundamentals of the sport... No, sin bins would be bad. One thing that I dont like it that the other team can injure your player and you have to go off. I think it would be better if the tackler had to at least go off too, then come back on. This is also problematic however. Edited by scott21: 23/12/2015 08:04:18 PM
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I wonder where everyone would stand if it was trialled successfully in europe and then got implemented. I assume everyone on here would be all for it because the euros were keen on it and it would make sense to follow suit.
But because we're the one's that want to trial it, well of course people on here would be against it...
It's ok guys we all know that if europe gives it the tick of approval we'll all be able to sleep soundly. Relax.
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JP
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Davo1985 wrote:I wonder where everyone would stand if it was trialled successfully in europe and then got implemented. I assume everyone on here would be all for it because the euros were keen on it and it would make sense to follow suit.
But because we're the one's that want to trial it, well of course people on here would be against it...
It's ok guys we all know that if europe gives it the tick of approval we'll all be able to sleep soundly. Relax. This has nothing to do with Europe, sin bins are simply idiotic. I don't have a particular problem with video replays assuming they don't impact the flow of the game, but if it were up to me I'd rather keep things as is. FIFA should stop meddling with the rules of the game. It's the off-field aspect of football that demands reform, not on-field.
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Davo1985 wrote:I wonder where everyone would stand if it was trialled successfully in europe and then got implemented. I assume everyone on here would be all for it because the euros were keen on it and it would make sense to follow suit.
But because we're the one's that want to trial it, well of course people on here would be against it...
It's ok guys we all know that if europe gives it the tick of approval we'll all be able to sleep soundly. Relax. :lol: Want anymore salt?
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RBBAnonymous
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Football is perfect because its not perfect.
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RBBAnonymous wrote:Football is perfect because its not perfect.
Not always 
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scott21 wrote:RBBAnonymous wrote:Football is perfect because its not perfect.
Not always   They already have goal line technology. So fixed :D
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RBBAnonymous wrote:
They already have goal line technology. So fixed :D
Im not too upset about the Italain dive these days. Lucas shouldnt have attempted that tackle. My biggest Australian travesty is Harry Kewell being sent off for the handball. Perhaps on another day he would stay on. Its not actually that that pisses me off. Its that Luis Suarez does a water polo save in the same tournament and gets the same penalty. 1 match ban. All the while they show that grub celebrate on the sideline when Gyan missed.
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RBBAnonymous
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scott21 wrote:RBBAnonymous wrote:
They already have goal line technology. So fixed :D
Im not too upset about the Italain dive these days. Lucas shouldnt have attempted that tackle. My biggest Australian travesty is Harry Kewell being sent off for the handball. Perhaps on another day he would stay on. Its not actually that that pisses me off. Its that Luis Suarez does a water polo save in the same tournament and gets the same penalty. 1 match ban. All the while they show that grub celebrate on the sideline when Gyan missed. The "dive" I thought was a penalty. We Australians love to say we was wobbed. Harry being sent off, these things happen in football. That's part of what makes it football. The final decision right or wrong should be with the referee. The Suarez handball was punished. Once with a penalty, the second time by being suspended for the semi-final. Of course every player would celebrate that miss. All those incidents above would still be confirmed with video technology. So I am not sure how they fit in with the topic on this thread.
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aussie scott21
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RBBAnonymous wrote:scott21 wrote:RBBAnonymous wrote:
They already have goal line technology. So fixed :D
Im not too upset about the Italain dive these days. Lucas shouldnt have attempted that tackle. My biggest Australian travesty is Harry Kewell being sent off for the handball. Perhaps on another day he would stay on. Its not actually that that pisses me off. Its that Luis Suarez does a water polo save in the same tournament and gets the same penalty. 1 match ban. All the while they show that grub celebrate on the sideline when Gyan missed. The "dive" I thought was a penalty. We Australians love to say we was wobbed. Harry being sent off, these things happen in football. That's part of what makes it football. The final decision right or wrong should be with the referee. The Suarez handball was punished. Once with a penalty, the second time by being suspended for the semi-final. Of course every player would celebrate that miss. All those incidents above would still be confirmed with video technology. So I am not sure how they fit in with the topic on this thread. The Suarez was a red , the same as Kewells. They were both treated as handball in the box. Perhaps Kewells handball could have been reviewed under replay conditions. There was a chance in my mind it could have been called a non intentional handball. So, penalty and no card. No replay relies on the refs eagle vision.
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Video review technology would be the most important facet introduced to football in over 50 years. Took far too long to happen One of the benefits of Sepp Blatter being extinguished from FIFA
I wonder if there is a correlation between people who object to the introduction of video technology for football and the objection to autonomous cars. I'll bet there is.
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aussie scott21
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:Video review technology would be the most important facet introduced to football in over 50 years. Took far too long to happen One of the benefits of Sepp Blatter being extinguished from FIFA
I wonder if there is a correlation between people who object to the introduction of video technology for football and the objection to autonomous cars. I'll bet there is. The car thing has to do with safety. The football thing has to do with the rules of the game... and most importantly, the millions to billions spent on bets worldwide for such tournaments as the WC.
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RBBAnonymous
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scott21 wrote:RBBAnonymous wrote:scott21 wrote:RBBAnonymous wrote:
They already have goal line technology. So fixed :D
Im not too upset about the Italain dive these days. Lucas shouldnt have attempted that tackle. My biggest Australian travesty is Harry Kewell being sent off for the handball. Perhaps on another day he would stay on. Its not actually that that pisses me off. Its that Luis Suarez does a water polo save in the same tournament and gets the same penalty. 1 match ban. All the while they show that grub celebrate on the sideline when Gyan missed. The "dive" I thought was a penalty. We Australians love to say we was wobbed. Harry being sent off, these things happen in football. That's part of what makes it football. The final decision right or wrong should be with the referee. The Suarez handball was punished. Once with a penalty, the second time by being suspended for the semi-final. Of course every player would celebrate that miss. All those incidents above would still be confirmed with video technology. So I am not sure how they fit in with the topic on this thread. The Suarez was a red , the same as Kewells. They were both treated as handball in the box. Perhaps Kewells handball could have been reviewed under replay conditions. There was a chance in my mind it could have been called a non intentional handball. So, penalty and no card. No replay relies on the refs eagle vision. To be fair to the referee, the handball decision given to Kewell, I have seen those given and not given. Even if you were to go back and use technology there would still be controversy no matter what the ultimate decision was.
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RBBAnonymous
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scott21 wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:Video review technology would be the most important facet introduced to football in over 50 years. Took far too long to happen One of the benefits of Sepp Blatter being extinguished from FIFA
I wonder if there is a correlation between people who object to the introduction of video technology for football and the objection to autonomous cars. I'll bet there is. The car thing has to do with safety. The football thing has to do with the rules of the game... and most importantly, the millions to billions spent on bets worldwide for such tournaments as the WC. LOL - I forgot we need to change the rules to cater for the betting markets out there :lol: :lol:
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RBBAnonymous wrote:scott21 wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:Video review technology would be the most important facet introduced to football in over 50 years. Took far too long to happen One of the benefits of Sepp Blatter being extinguished from FIFA
I wonder if there is a correlation between people who object to the introduction of video technology for football and the objection to autonomous cars. I'll bet there is. The car thing has to do with safety. The football thing has to do with the rules of the game... and most importantly, the millions to billions spent on bets worldwide for such tournaments as the WC. LOL - I forgot we need to change the rules to cater for the betting markets out there :lol: :lol: The Lampard goal is an easy example. If you had money for Lampard to score, or the score of the match etc. you would be pissed. The rules are the ball has to cross the line, which it did. So you would win the bet, however a linesman running down the pitch 50m away decides the outcome. When you have access to the technology. For me its simple, you bet something would happen, it did, you should get paid. Or the Janko goal in Wollongong :lol: Edited by scott21: 23/12/2015 11:53:49 PM
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It would ruin the magic of football.
Every goal will be disputed and reviewed. Yuck
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Axelv wrote:It would ruin the magic of football.
Every goal will be disputed and reviewed. Yuck I dont think it would be the main problem. There would probably be more disputes over corners/goal kicks.
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Sounds good to me. When a ref shows a red, why not have a ref on the sideline view all video evidence and determine if and when the player can return to the field? Would cut games being ruined by poor reds. min time off of ten mins duri g which time the video ref can make the call. If a ain bin worked like that then I say Why not? Does not hold up the game
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Wouldn't say no to sin bins for simulation. Yellow card + 15 mins on the sidelines to watch how you're letting your team down. But tend to agree that sin bins would start to lump the sport with the rugby codes - which is not to say I dislike the rule in those sports, just that I don't think it's very football-ish.
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In addition to instant video review, the game would also be much improved if yellow cards were automatic for any intentional foul. The quality & spectacle would jump to another level.
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And it looks like video could have determined last nights game
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