Total number of games (From group stage onwards)
07 - 92 (92)
08 - 98 (98)
09 - 114 (111)
10 - 122 (117)
11 - 121 (117)
12 - 122 (117)
13 - 129 (126)
14 - 141 (126)
15 - 143 (126)
16 - 139 (126)
17 - 141 (126)

Average attendance from group stage onwards
07 - Data incomplete and unreliable.
08 - 10,387
09 - 12,579
10 - 11,884
11 - 10,901
12 - 12,652
13 - 15,842
14 - 15,057
15 - 16,854
16 - 13,014
17 - 


Number of teams participating (in group stage)
07 - 28 (28)
08 - 29 (29)
09 - 35 (31)
10 - 37 (32)
11 - 36 (32)
12 - 38 (32)
13 - 35 (32)
14 - 47 (32)
15 - 49 (32)
16 - 45 (32)
17 - 47 (32)


Number of different countries participating (in group stage)
07 - 16 (16)
08 - 14 (14)
09 - 13 (11)
10 - 13 (11)
11 - 12 (10)
12 - 11 (10)
13 - 10 (10)
14 - 19 (10)
15 - 19 (11)
16 - 17 (11)
17 - 19 (11)

More or less stagnant last year. Decline in attendance mostly due to Guangzhou not making it past the group stage

Growing the amount of teams has stayed stagnant because of the unstable middle east. Should that end anytime soon the number of teams and playoff games will increase pretty quickly.

I agree, at least from the QF's onward.

Hopefully this will incentivise the oil nations over there to invest in the same high quality players that China has. No reason Al-Hilal couldn't get Jackson Martinez

This is the main problem. It's not worth splitting when they would get way more spots than they would deserve. It'd leave us, China, South Korea and Japan all scrapping over three spots.

I don't think this is the answer either. The Arabs would end up with a disproportionately high number of World Cup Qualifying spots making it even harder for us to qualify.

Realistically, of the five spots available between Asia and Oceania, West Asia would probably deserve 1.5 at most, with 3.5 for East Asia/Oceania. But there's no way the Arabs would settle for that.

I've said it before.

2 confeds

1 for West Asia
1 for East Asia (Absorb OFC into East Asia)

Who knows?

The Turkish fans are going to cop a lot of shit in France in the summer, perhaps they will eventually want to join Asia (if the money is good enough :lol: , same goes for Russia).

todays/yesterdays games

China - SL v MB 15109
Vietnam - HNT v K 1500
Thailand - C v YU 3886
Thailand - MTU v JDT 11446

Pretty good for qualification games

The solution is one that people have suggested before: East Asian Football Confederation.

This.

The Arabs won't allow it. East Asia would dominate.

Data makes me wet.

The Champions League will be held back as long as the Arabs continue to demand the split confederation format. Hopefully the recent shift in power towards China could break West Asia's political dominance, or at least undermine it.

Total number of games (From group stage onwards)
07 - 92 (92)
08 - 98 (98)
09 - 114 (111)
10 - 122 (117)
11 - 121 (117)
12 - 122 (117)
13 - 129 (126)
14 - 141 (126)
15 - 143 (126)
16 - 139 (126)


Average attendance from group stage onwards
07 - Data incomplete and unreliable.
08 - 10,387
09 - 12,579
10 - 11,884
11 - 10,901
12 - 12,652
13 - 15,842
14 - 15,057
15 - 16,854
16 - __,___


Number of teams participating (in group stage)
07 - 28 (28)
08 - 29 (29)
09 - 35 (31)
10 - 37 (32)
11 - 36 (32)
12 - 38 (32)
13 - 35 (32)
14 - 47 (32)
15 - 49 (32)
16 - 45 (32)


Number of different countries participating (in group stage)
07 - 16 (16)
08 - 14 (14)
09 - 13 (11)
10 - 13 (11)
11 - 12 (10)
12 - 11 (10)
13 - 10 (10)
14 - 19 (10)
15 - 19 (11)
16 - 17 (11+)

Mostly did this cause I'm sick and bored, but I'm also interested in what the ACL might look like in 5-10 years and what that might mean for Aussie teams. Crowds have skyrocketed and that correlates to Guangzhou qualifying for the first time in 2012 and with more clubs in China spending big money I bet this will continue. Hopefully this will mean more prize money so our clubs don't lose money playing in Asia.

Diversity is still an issue but I do think this will get a bit better if countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, Kuwait and Jordan can get their act together.

Pie in the sky stuff, but as the AFC becomes a more legitimate confederation and our ACL becomes stronger maybe some Asian UEFA nations like Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Cyprus, Armenia and Georgia (probably still too soon for Israel) will switch over.



Edited by tbitm: 3/2/2016 01:31:13 AM