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The government said it would spend Aus$195 billion (US$139 billion) over the next decade, including a doubling of its submarine fleet to 24, three additional destroyers, nine new frigates and 12 offshore patrol boats.

Maritime surveillance would also be boosted by the purchase of seven US-made MQ-4C Triton drones and eight P-8A Poseidon aircraft.


Massive investment, but will it be enough and will they arrive in time


Huge amount of money and if they're not built here in SA there will political ramifications for a few local Libs.


they should have been built in Japan....to much risk on ASC getting the job right
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Joffa wrote:
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The government said it would spend Aus$195 billion (US$139 billion) over the next decade, including a doubling of its submarine fleet to 24, three additional destroyers, nine new frigates and 12 offshore patrol boats.

Maritime surveillance would also be boosted by the purchase of seven US-made MQ-4C Triton drones and eight P-8A Poseidon aircraft.


Massive investment, but will it be enough and will they arrive in time


Huge amount of money and if they're not built here in SA there will political ramifications for a few local Libs.

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Heres the white paper.

http://www.defence.gov.au/whitepaper/Docs/2016-Defence-White-Paper.pdf

Makes mention of China, ukraine, IS etc.


interesting...

no mention of the violation of international law of Australians bombing a sovereign nation in Syria uninvited

Quote:
Events during the three years since the release of the last Defence White
Paper in 2013 demonstrate how rapidly Australia’s security environment
can change .The relationship between the United States and China
continues to evolve and will be fundamental to our future strategic
circumstances .Territorial disputes between claimants in the East China
and South China Seas have created uncertainty and tension in our region .
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea continues to be a source of
instability .State fragility has helped enable the rise of Daesh (also known
as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) terrorists in the Middle East,
incidents across the world have demonstrated the pervasive nature of the
threat of terrorism, and [size=8]a violation of international law led to the deaths of
Australians in the skies over Ukraine[/size] .Some matters that previous Defence
White Papers have described as longer-term issues, such as the impact
of military modernisation in our region, now fall to this White Paper to
respond to .



Russian Army shot down MH17 , killed all those people on there way to Australia


Russian Army? :lol:

Evidence?

So lets violate international law and bomb Syria. Makes perfect sense.
Much like invading Iraq because some Saudis attacked NYC. Makes perfect sense.

Edited by TheFactOfTheMatter: 26/2/2016 02:15:16 AM


we know the Russia army unit , know the names Russian solider ...

anyway, who died and made you king , you're a fucking nobody, why should they give evidence to you


and who gave you the evidence?


why do i need it? why would i not believe the Australia government when dealing with so many dead Australians ? kids shot from the sky, falling to ground with out there clothes left on them

fuck you


the Australian government never claimed the Russian army shot down MH17



yes they did .,,it why Europe agree to put sanctions on Russia....









no they didnt
you have no evidence


there lots of evidence....but you do the same thing as Russia does, you put up 5 other crazy ideas and say they could be possible ...as this is not a court a law, where we can question witness

Russia shot down MH17
sanctions went on Russia because of it

and here the best part
fucking sanctions are not coming off Russia for a very long time



Edited by adrtho: 26/2/2016 11:39:41 PM


You claimed and I quote, "the Russian army shot down MH17".
You claim sanctions as evidence. That's not evidence of anything.

Provide evidence or shut the fuck up shit talker.


maybe you can tell Putin to let the Dutch safety board to be able to questions the Russian solders who shot it down? Ok, how about letting the driver of the Buk surface-to-air missile that cross from Russia it to Ukraine and then shot it down to be questions

Russia shot MH17 down
they know the truck that cary the Buk surface-to-air missile to Ukraine
They know the driver name
they know the Russia army Unit the Buk surface-to-air missile was with
they know the name of the soilders in this Russian Army Unit
they know to the minute when the missile was fired
they know where it was fired
they know when and how the Buk then travel back to Russia
they know everything

Tony Abbott get a lot of shit, but this was him and Julie Bishop finest hour, all Australian should be proud of both them (other to), they gave Europe some fucking balls, with out Tony Abbott or Julie Bishop (Australia government) there would be no sanctions on Russia











...so no evidence then?


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia


no it isnt

still waiting evidence of your claim "russian army shot down MH17"


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia

[size=8]show the evidence that Russia didn't do it[/size]


you've been caught out. this is effectively an admission of defeat by you

you have no evidence




MH17 was shot down by a Buk surface-to-air missile, theses buk can not brought at the corner shop...they need a big trunk to transport them , and they need train me to operate.... this means Russian army or Ukraine army

there so much evidence saying it was Russia,
they have traffic cam video of the Buk traveling from Russia to it spot in Ukraine where it fired, they have the traffic cam video of the Buk traveling back to Russia minus one ...they know everything

Russia did it, they shot down and killed all those Australians


hearsay of dash cam is your evidence? are you fucking serious? what is it a youtube video?
can you verify where is was taken?

this wasnt in the Dutch report

you have no evidence. plenty of Buks in Ukraine prior to the war breaking out.

still waiting for you evidence shit talker




Australia Government (the people who work everyday for government not the politicians) have all the evidence...it why the PM of Australia came out and said...the Buk sam was from Russia, it came from Russia, and it was Russia who shot it down

I thrust all the hard working people, who work for the Australian government everyday, to do there job in a honest way . when dealing with so many Australians and other people on there way to Australia who were killed when they was blow out of the sky over Ukraine

so fuck you, and fuck the crazy planet you are from



Edited by adrtho: 28/2/2016 09:57:38 PM


show me the quotes from the Australian goverment


here you go
fuck you

Edited by adrtho: 28/2/2016 10:09:29 PM


so you've got nothing then shit talker


what part is it bullshit? that the hard working people working in Australian Governments?

Quote:
Australia became the latest country to accuse Russia of shooting down Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17, when on Tuesday, Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott revealed to Russian President Vladimir Putin that Australian intelligence information points the finger directly at his country.


link



link fail shit talker

post a proper link


link


shit talker got caught talking shit again

cant back up your shit talk with evidence. stop posting.

Edited by TheFactOfTheMatter: 28/2/2016 10:29:55 PM




Quote:
In July and August 2014, following the downing of Malaysian Airlines flight MH17, the EU and US imposed expanded sanctions targeting the Russian defence, finance and oil and gas sectors.

In August 2014, in response, Russia imposed sanctions against Australia and certain other countries (including EU member states and the US) prohibiting certain food imports.

On 1 September 2014, the Prime Minister Tony Abbott announced that the Australian Government would implement further autonomous sanctions against Russia. After a period of public consultation, the Government amended the Autonomous Sanctions Regulations 2011 (Cth) to give effect to expanded sanctions against Russia, Crimea and Sevastopol on 31 March 2015. The expanded Australian sanctions have been specifically drafted to align with EU and US sanctions.




Edited by adrtho: 28/2/2016 10:51:13 PM


post a link to the quote where the Australian government says the Russian army shot down MH17 (as you have claimed)
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Iridium1010 wrote:
Heres the white paper.

http://www.defence.gov.au/whitepaper/Docs/2016-Defence-White-Paper.pdf

Makes mention of China, ukraine, IS etc.


interesting...

no mention of the violation of international law of Australians bombing a sovereign nation in Syria uninvited

Quote:
Events during the three years since the release of the last Defence White
Paper in 2013 demonstrate how rapidly Australia’s security environment
can change .The relationship between the United States and China
continues to evolve and will be fundamental to our future strategic
circumstances .Territorial disputes between claimants in the East China
and South China Seas have created uncertainty and tension in our region .
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea continues to be a source of
instability .State fragility has helped enable the rise of Daesh (also known
as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) terrorists in the Middle East,
incidents across the world have demonstrated the pervasive nature of the
threat of terrorism, and [size=8]a violation of international law led to the deaths of
Australians in the skies over Ukraine[/size] .Some matters that previous Defence
White Papers have described as longer-term issues, such as the impact
of military modernisation in our region, now fall to this White Paper to
respond to .



Russian Army shot down MH17 , killed all those people on there way to Australia


Russian Army? :lol:

Evidence?

So lets violate international law and bomb Syria. Makes perfect sense.
Much like invading Iraq because some Saudis attacked NYC. Makes perfect sense.

Edited by TheFactOfTheMatter: 26/2/2016 02:15:16 AM


we know the Russia army unit , know the names Russian solider ...

anyway, who died and made you king , you're a fucking nobody, why should they give evidence to you


and who gave you the evidence?


why do i need it? why would i not believe the Australia government when dealing with so many dead Australians ? kids shot from the sky, falling to ground with out there clothes left on them

fuck you


the Australian government never claimed the Russian army shot down MH17



yes they did .,,it why Europe agree to put sanctions on Russia....









no they didnt
you have no evidence


there lots of evidence....but you do the same thing as Russia does, you put up 5 other crazy ideas and say they could be possible ...as this is not a court a law, where we can question witness

Russia shot down MH17
sanctions went on Russia because of it

and here the best part
fucking sanctions are not coming off Russia for a very long time



Edited by adrtho: 26/2/2016 11:39:41 PM


You claimed and I quote, "the Russian army shot down MH17".
You claim sanctions as evidence. That's not evidence of anything.

Provide evidence or shut the fuck up shit talker.


maybe you can tell Putin to let the Dutch safety board to be able to questions the Russian solders who shot it down? Ok, how about letting the driver of the Buk surface-to-air missile that cross from Russia it to Ukraine and then shot it down to be questions

Russia shot MH17 down
they know the truck that cary the Buk surface-to-air missile to Ukraine
They know the driver name
they know the Russia army Unit the Buk surface-to-air missile was with
they know the name of the soilders in this Russian Army Unit
they know to the minute when the missile was fired
they know where it was fired
they know when and how the Buk then travel back to Russia
they know everything

Tony Abbott get a lot of shit, but this was him and Julie Bishop finest hour, all Australian should be proud of both them (other to), they gave Europe some fucking balls, with out Tony Abbott or Julie Bishop (Australia government) there would be no sanctions on Russia











...so no evidence then?


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia


no it isnt

still waiting evidence of your claim "russian army shot down MH17"


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia

[size=8]show the evidence that Russia didn't do it[/size]


you've been caught out. this is effectively an admission of defeat by you

you have no evidence




MH17 was shot down by a Buk surface-to-air missile, theses buk can not brought at the corner shop...they need a big trunk to transport them , and they need train me to operate.... this means Russian army or Ukraine army

there so much evidence saying it was Russia,
they have traffic cam video of the Buk traveling from Russia to it spot in Ukraine where it fired, they have the traffic cam video of the Buk traveling back to Russia minus one ...they know everything

Russia did it, they shot down and killed all those Australians


hearsay of dash cam is your evidence? are you fucking serious? what is it a youtube video?
can you verify where is was taken?

this wasnt in the Dutch report

you have no evidence. plenty of Buks in Ukraine prior to the war breaking out.

still waiting for you evidence shit talker




Australia Government (the people who work everyday for government not the politicians) have all the evidence...it why the PM of Australia came out and said...the Buk sam was from Russia, it came from Russia, and it was Russia who shot it down

I thrust all the hard working people, who work for the Australian government everyday, to do there job in a honest way . when dealing with so many Australians and other people on there way to Australia who were killed when they was blow out of the sky over Ukraine

so fuck you, and fuck the crazy planet you are from



Edited by adrtho: 28/2/2016 09:57:38 PM


show me the quotes from the Australian goverment


here you go
fuck you

Edited by adrtho: 28/2/2016 10:09:29 PM


so you've got nothing then shit talker


what part is it bullshit? that the hard working people working in Australian Governments?

Quote:
Australia became the latest country to accuse Russia of shooting down Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17, when on Tuesday, Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott revealed to Russian President Vladimir Putin that Australian intelligence information points the finger directly at his country.


link



link fail shit talker

post a proper link


link


shit talker got caught talking shit again

cant back up your shit talk with evidence. stop posting.

Edited by TheFactOfTheMatter: 28/2/2016 10:29:55 PM




Quote:
In July and August 2014, following the downing of Malaysian Airlines flight MH17, the EU and US imposed expanded sanctions targeting the Russian defence, finance and oil and gas sectors.

In August 2014, in response, Russia imposed sanctions against Australia and certain other countries (including EU member states and the US) prohibiting certain food imports.

On 1 September 2014, the Prime Minister Tony Abbott announced that the Australian Government would implement further autonomous sanctions against Russia. After a period of public consultation, the Government amended the Autonomous Sanctions Regulations 2011 (Cth) to give effect to expanded sanctions against Russia, Crimea and Sevastopol on 31 March 2015. The expanded Australian sanctions have been specifically drafted to align with EU and US sanctions.




Edited by adrtho: 28/2/2016 10:51:13 PM
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The government said it would spend Aus$195 billion (US$139 billion) over the next decade, including a doubling of its submarine fleet to 24, three additional destroyers, nine new frigates and 12 offshore patrol boats.

Maritime surveillance would also be boosted by the purchase of seven US-made MQ-4C Triton drones and eight P-8A Poseidon aircraft.


Massive investment, but will it be enough and will they arrive in time


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Iridium1010 wrote:
Heres the white paper.

http://www.defence.gov.au/whitepaper/Docs/2016-Defence-White-Paper.pdf

Makes mention of China, ukraine, IS etc.


interesting...

no mention of the violation of international law of Australians bombing a sovereign nation in Syria uninvited

Quote:
Events during the three years since the release of the last Defence White
Paper in 2013 demonstrate how rapidly Australia’s security environment
can change .The relationship between the United States and China
continues to evolve and will be fundamental to our future strategic
circumstances .Territorial disputes between claimants in the East China
and South China Seas have created uncertainty and tension in our region .
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea continues to be a source of
instability .State fragility has helped enable the rise of Daesh (also known
as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) terrorists in the Middle East,
incidents across the world have demonstrated the pervasive nature of the
threat of terrorism, and [size=8]a violation of international law led to the deaths of
Australians in the skies over Ukraine[/size] .Some matters that previous Defence
White Papers have described as longer-term issues, such as the impact
of military modernisation in our region, now fall to this White Paper to
respond to .



Russian Army shot down MH17 , killed all those people on there way to Australia


Russian Army? :lol:

Evidence?

So lets violate international law and bomb Syria. Makes perfect sense.
Much like invading Iraq because some Saudis attacked NYC. Makes perfect sense.

Edited by TheFactOfTheMatter: 26/2/2016 02:15:16 AM


we know the Russia army unit , know the names Russian solider ...

anyway, who died and made you king , you're a fucking nobody, why should they give evidence to you


and who gave you the evidence?


why do i need it? why would i not believe the Australia government when dealing with so many dead Australians ? kids shot from the sky, falling to ground with out there clothes left on them

fuck you


the Australian government never claimed the Russian army shot down MH17



yes they did .,,it why Europe agree to put sanctions on Russia....









no they didnt
you have no evidence


there lots of evidence....but you do the same thing as Russia does, you put up 5 other crazy ideas and say they could be possible ...as this is not a court a law, where we can question witness

Russia shot down MH17
sanctions went on Russia because of it

and here the best part
fucking sanctions are not coming off Russia for a very long time



Edited by adrtho: 26/2/2016 11:39:41 PM


You claimed and I quote, "the Russian army shot down MH17".
You claim sanctions as evidence. That's not evidence of anything.

Provide evidence or shut the fuck up shit talker.


maybe you can tell Putin to let the Dutch safety board to be able to questions the Russian solders who shot it down? Ok, how about letting the driver of the Buk surface-to-air missile that cross from Russia it to Ukraine and then shot it down to be questions

Russia shot MH17 down
they know the truck that cary the Buk surface-to-air missile to Ukraine
They know the driver name
they know the Russia army Unit the Buk surface-to-air missile was with
they know the name of the soilders in this Russian Army Unit
they know to the minute when the missile was fired
they know where it was fired
they know when and how the Buk then travel back to Russia
they know everything

Tony Abbott get a lot of shit, but this was him and Julie Bishop finest hour, all Australian should be proud of both them (other to), they gave Europe some fucking balls, with out Tony Abbott or Julie Bishop (Australia government) there would be no sanctions on Russia











...so no evidence then?


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia


no it isnt

still waiting evidence of your claim "russian army shot down MH17"


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia

[size=8]show the evidence that Russia didn't do it[/size]


you've been caught out. this is effectively an admission of defeat by you

you have no evidence




MH17 was shot down by a Buk surface-to-air missile, theses buk can not brought at the corner shop...they need a big trunk to transport them , and they need train me to operate.... this means Russian army or Ukraine army

there so much evidence saying it was Russia,
they have traffic cam video of the Buk traveling from Russia to it spot in Ukraine where it fired, they have the traffic cam video of the Buk traveling back to Russia minus one ...they know everything

Russia did it, they shot down and killed all those Australians


hearsay of dash cam is your evidence? are you fucking serious? what is it a youtube video?
can you verify where is was taken?

this wasnt in the Dutch report

you have no evidence. plenty of Buks in Ukraine prior to the war breaking out.

still waiting for you evidence shit talker




Australia Government (the people who work everyday for government not the politicians) have all the evidence...it why the PM of Australia came out and said...the Buk sam was from Russia, it came from Russia, and it was Russia who shot it down

I thrust all the hard working people, who work for the Australian government everyday, to do there job in a honest way . when dealing with so many Australians and other people on there way to Australia who were killed when they was blow out of the sky over Ukraine

so fuck you, and fuck the crazy planet you are from



Edited by adrtho: 28/2/2016 09:57:38 PM


show me the quotes from the Australian goverment


here you go
fuck you

Edited by adrtho: 28/2/2016 10:09:29 PM


so you've got nothing then shit talker


what part is it bullshit? that the hard working people working in Australian Governments?

Quote:
Australia became the latest country to accuse Russia of shooting down Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17, when on Tuesday, Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott revealed to Russian President Vladimir Putin that Australian intelligence information points the finger directly at his country.


link



link fail shit talker

post a proper link


link


shit talker got caught talking shit again

cant back up your shit talk with evidence. stop posting.

Edited by TheFactOfTheMatter: 28/2/2016 10:29:55 PM
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Iridium1010 wrote:
Heres the white paper.

http://www.defence.gov.au/whitepaper/Docs/2016-Defence-White-Paper.pdf

Makes mention of China, ukraine, IS etc.


interesting...

no mention of the violation of international law of Australians bombing a sovereign nation in Syria uninvited

Quote:
Events during the three years since the release of the last Defence White
Paper in 2013 demonstrate how rapidly Australia’s security environment
can change .The relationship between the United States and China
continues to evolve and will be fundamental to our future strategic
circumstances .Territorial disputes between claimants in the East China
and South China Seas have created uncertainty and tension in our region .
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea continues to be a source of
instability .State fragility has helped enable the rise of Daesh (also known
as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) terrorists in the Middle East,
incidents across the world have demonstrated the pervasive nature of the
threat of terrorism, and [size=8]a violation of international law led to the deaths of
Australians in the skies over Ukraine[/size] .Some matters that previous Defence
White Papers have described as longer-term issues, such as the impact
of military modernisation in our region, now fall to this White Paper to
respond to .



Russian Army shot down MH17 , killed all those people on there way to Australia


Russian Army? :lol:

Evidence?

So lets violate international law and bomb Syria. Makes perfect sense.
Much like invading Iraq because some Saudis attacked NYC. Makes perfect sense.

Edited by TheFactOfTheMatter: 26/2/2016 02:15:16 AM


we know the Russia army unit , know the names Russian solider ...

anyway, who died and made you king , you're a fucking nobody, why should they give evidence to you


and who gave you the evidence?


why do i need it? why would i not believe the Australia government when dealing with so many dead Australians ? kids shot from the sky, falling to ground with out there clothes left on them

fuck you


the Australian government never claimed the Russian army shot down MH17



yes they did .,,it why Europe agree to put sanctions on Russia....









no they didnt
you have no evidence


there lots of evidence....but you do the same thing as Russia does, you put up 5 other crazy ideas and say they could be possible ...as this is not a court a law, where we can question witness

Russia shot down MH17
sanctions went on Russia because of it

and here the best part
fucking sanctions are not coming off Russia for a very long time



Edited by adrtho: 26/2/2016 11:39:41 PM


You claimed and I quote, "the Russian army shot down MH17".
You claim sanctions as evidence. That's not evidence of anything.

Provide evidence or shut the fuck up shit talker.


maybe you can tell Putin to let the Dutch safety board to be able to questions the Russian solders who shot it down? Ok, how about letting the driver of the Buk surface-to-air missile that cross from Russia it to Ukraine and then shot it down to be questions

Russia shot MH17 down
they know the truck that cary the Buk surface-to-air missile to Ukraine
They know the driver name
they know the Russia army Unit the Buk surface-to-air missile was with
they know the name of the soilders in this Russian Army Unit
they know to the minute when the missile was fired
they know where it was fired
they know when and how the Buk then travel back to Russia
they know everything

Tony Abbott get a lot of shit, but this was him and Julie Bishop finest hour, all Australian should be proud of both them (other to), they gave Europe some fucking balls, with out Tony Abbott or Julie Bishop (Australia government) there would be no sanctions on Russia











...so no evidence then?


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia


no it isnt

still waiting evidence of your claim "russian army shot down MH17"


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia

[size=8]show the evidence that Russia didn't do it[/size]


you've been caught out. this is effectively an admission of defeat by you

you have no evidence




MH17 was shot down by a Buk surface-to-air missile, theses buk can not brought at the corner shop...they need a big trunk to transport them , and they need train me to operate.... this means Russian army or Ukraine army

there so much evidence saying it was Russia,
they have traffic cam video of the Buk traveling from Russia to it spot in Ukraine where it fired, they have the traffic cam video of the Buk traveling back to Russia minus one ...they know everything

Russia did it, they shot down and killed all those Australians


hearsay of dash cam is your evidence? are you fucking serious? what is it a youtube video?
can you verify where is was taken?

this wasnt in the Dutch report

you have no evidence. plenty of Buks in Ukraine prior to the war breaking out.

still waiting for you evidence shit talker




Australia Government (the people who work everyday for government not the politicians) have all the evidence...it why the PM of Australia came out and said...the Buk sam was from Russia, it came from Russia, and it was Russia who shot it down

I thrust all the hard working people, who work for the Australian government everyday, to do there job in a honest way . when dealing with so many Australians and other people on there way to Australia who were killed when they was blow out of the sky over Ukraine

so fuck you, and fuck the crazy planet you are from



Edited by adrtho: 28/2/2016 09:57:38 PM


show me the quotes from the Australian goverment


here you go
fuck you

Edited by adrtho: 28/2/2016 10:09:29 PM


so you've got nothing then shit talker


what part is it bullshit? that the hard working people working in Australian Governments?

Quote:
Australia became the latest country to accuse Russia of shooting down Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17, when on Tuesday, Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott revealed to Russian President Vladimir Putin that Australian intelligence information points the finger directly at his country.


link



link fail shit talker

post a proper link


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Iridium1010 wrote:
Heres the white paper.

http://www.defence.gov.au/whitepaper/Docs/2016-Defence-White-Paper.pdf

Makes mention of China, ukraine, IS etc.


interesting...

no mention of the violation of international law of Australians bombing a sovereign nation in Syria uninvited

Quote:
Events during the three years since the release of the last Defence White
Paper in 2013 demonstrate how rapidly Australia’s security environment
can change .The relationship between the United States and China
continues to evolve and will be fundamental to our future strategic
circumstances .Territorial disputes between claimants in the East China
and South China Seas have created uncertainty and tension in our region .
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea continues to be a source of
instability .State fragility has helped enable the rise of Daesh (also known
as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) terrorists in the Middle East,
incidents across the world have demonstrated the pervasive nature of the
threat of terrorism, and [size=8]a violation of international law led to the deaths of
Australians in the skies over Ukraine[/size] .Some matters that previous Defence
White Papers have described as longer-term issues, such as the impact
of military modernisation in our region, now fall to this White Paper to
respond to .



Russian Army shot down MH17 , killed all those people on there way to Australia


Russian Army? :lol:

Evidence?

So lets violate international law and bomb Syria. Makes perfect sense.
Much like invading Iraq because some Saudis attacked NYC. Makes perfect sense.

Edited by TheFactOfTheMatter: 26/2/2016 02:15:16 AM


we know the Russia army unit , know the names Russian solider ...

anyway, who died and made you king , you're a fucking nobody, why should they give evidence to you


and who gave you the evidence?


why do i need it? why would i not believe the Australia government when dealing with so many dead Australians ? kids shot from the sky, falling to ground with out there clothes left on them

fuck you


the Australian government never claimed the Russian army shot down MH17



yes they did .,,it why Europe agree to put sanctions on Russia....









no they didnt
you have no evidence


there lots of evidence....but you do the same thing as Russia does, you put up 5 other crazy ideas and say they could be possible ...as this is not a court a law, where we can question witness

Russia shot down MH17
sanctions went on Russia because of it

and here the best part
fucking sanctions are not coming off Russia for a very long time



Edited by adrtho: 26/2/2016 11:39:41 PM


You claimed and I quote, "the Russian army shot down MH17".
You claim sanctions as evidence. That's not evidence of anything.

Provide evidence or shut the fuck up shit talker.


maybe you can tell Putin to let the Dutch safety board to be able to questions the Russian solders who shot it down? Ok, how about letting the driver of the Buk surface-to-air missile that cross from Russia it to Ukraine and then shot it down to be questions

Russia shot MH17 down
they know the truck that cary the Buk surface-to-air missile to Ukraine
They know the driver name
they know the Russia army Unit the Buk surface-to-air missile was with
they know the name of the soilders in this Russian Army Unit
they know to the minute when the missile was fired
they know where it was fired
they know when and how the Buk then travel back to Russia
they know everything

Tony Abbott get a lot of shit, but this was him and Julie Bishop finest hour, all Australian should be proud of both them (other to), they gave Europe some fucking balls, with out Tony Abbott or Julie Bishop (Australia government) there would be no sanctions on Russia











...so no evidence then?


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia


no it isnt

still waiting evidence of your claim "russian army shot down MH17"


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia

[size=8]show the evidence that Russia didn't do it[/size]


you've been caught out. this is effectively an admission of defeat by you

you have no evidence




MH17 was shot down by a Buk surface-to-air missile, theses buk can not brought at the corner shop...they need a big trunk to transport them , and they need train me to operate.... this means Russian army or Ukraine army

there so much evidence saying it was Russia,
they have traffic cam video of the Buk traveling from Russia to it spot in Ukraine where it fired, they have the traffic cam video of the Buk traveling back to Russia minus one ...they know everything

Russia did it, they shot down and killed all those Australians


hearsay of dash cam is your evidence? are you fucking serious? what is it a youtube video?
can you verify where is was taken?

this wasnt in the Dutch report

you have no evidence. plenty of Buks in Ukraine prior to the war breaking out.

still waiting for you evidence shit talker




Australia Government (the people who work everyday for government not the politicians) have all the evidence...it why the PM of Australia came out and said...the Buk sam was from Russia, it came from Russia, and it was Russia who shot it down

I thrust all the hard working people, who work for the Australian government everyday, to do there job in a honest way . when dealing with so many Australians and other people on there way to Australia who were killed when they was blow out of the sky over Ukraine

so fuck you, and fuck the crazy planet you are from



Edited by adrtho: 28/2/2016 09:57:38 PM


show me the quotes from the Australian goverment


here you go
fuck you

Edited by adrtho: 28/2/2016 10:09:29 PM


so you've got nothing then shit talker


what part is it bullshit? that the hard working people working in Australian Governments?

Quote:
Australia became the latest country to accuse Russia of shooting down Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17, when on Tuesday, Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott revealed to Russian President Vladimir Putin that Australian intelligence information points the finger directly at his country.


link



link fail shit talker

post a proper link
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Iridium1010 wrote:
Heres the white paper.

http://www.defence.gov.au/whitepaper/Docs/2016-Defence-White-Paper.pdf

Makes mention of China, ukraine, IS etc.


interesting...

no mention of the violation of international law of Australians bombing a sovereign nation in Syria uninvited

Quote:
Events during the three years since the release of the last Defence White
Paper in 2013 demonstrate how rapidly Australia’s security environment
can change .The relationship between the United States and China
continues to evolve and will be fundamental to our future strategic
circumstances .Territorial disputes between claimants in the East China
and South China Seas have created uncertainty and tension in our region .
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea continues to be a source of
instability .State fragility has helped enable the rise of Daesh (also known
as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) terrorists in the Middle East,
incidents across the world have demonstrated the pervasive nature of the
threat of terrorism, and [size=8]a violation of international law led to the deaths of
Australians in the skies over Ukraine[/size] .Some matters that previous Defence
White Papers have described as longer-term issues, such as the impact
of military modernisation in our region, now fall to this White Paper to
respond to .



Russian Army shot down MH17 , killed all those people on there way to Australia


Russian Army? :lol:

Evidence?

So lets violate international law and bomb Syria. Makes perfect sense.
Much like invading Iraq because some Saudis attacked NYC. Makes perfect sense.

Edited by TheFactOfTheMatter: 26/2/2016 02:15:16 AM


we know the Russia army unit , know the names Russian solider ...

anyway, who died and made you king , you're a fucking nobody, why should they give evidence to you


and who gave you the evidence?


why do i need it? why would i not believe the Australia government when dealing with so many dead Australians ? kids shot from the sky, falling to ground with out there clothes left on them

fuck you


the Australian government never claimed the Russian army shot down MH17



yes they did .,,it why Europe agree to put sanctions on Russia....









no they didnt
you have no evidence


there lots of evidence....but you do the same thing as Russia does, you put up 5 other crazy ideas and say they could be possible ...as this is not a court a law, where we can question witness

Russia shot down MH17
sanctions went on Russia because of it

and here the best part
fucking sanctions are not coming off Russia for a very long time



Edited by adrtho: 26/2/2016 11:39:41 PM


You claimed and I quote, "the Russian army shot down MH17".
You claim sanctions as evidence. That's not evidence of anything.

Provide evidence or shut the fuck up shit talker.


maybe you can tell Putin to let the Dutch safety board to be able to questions the Russian solders who shot it down? Ok, how about letting the driver of the Buk surface-to-air missile that cross from Russia it to Ukraine and then shot it down to be questions

Russia shot MH17 down
they know the truck that cary the Buk surface-to-air missile to Ukraine
They know the driver name
they know the Russia army Unit the Buk surface-to-air missile was with
they know the name of the soilders in this Russian Army Unit
they know to the minute when the missile was fired
they know where it was fired
they know when and how the Buk then travel back to Russia
they know everything

Tony Abbott get a lot of shit, but this was him and Julie Bishop finest hour, all Australian should be proud of both them (other to), they gave Europe some fucking balls, with out Tony Abbott or Julie Bishop (Australia government) there would be no sanctions on Russia











...so no evidence then?


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia


no it isnt

still waiting evidence of your claim "russian army shot down MH17"


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia

[size=8]show the evidence that Russia didn't do it[/size]


you've been caught out. this is effectively an admission of defeat by you

you have no evidence




MH17 was shot down by a Buk surface-to-air missile, theses buk can not brought at the corner shop...they need a big trunk to transport them , and they need train me to operate.... this means Russian army or Ukraine army

there so much evidence saying it was Russia,
they have traffic cam video of the Buk traveling from Russia to it spot in Ukraine where it fired, they have the traffic cam video of the Buk traveling back to Russia minus one ...they know everything

Russia did it, they shot down and killed all those Australians


hearsay of dash cam is your evidence? are you fucking serious? what is it a youtube video?
can you verify where is was taken?

this wasnt in the Dutch report

you have no evidence. plenty of Buks in Ukraine prior to the war breaking out.

still waiting for you evidence shit talker




Australia Government (the people who work everyday for government not the politicians) have all the evidence...it why the PM of Australia came out and said...the Buk sam was from Russia, it came from Russia, and it was Russia who shot it down

I thrust all the hard working people, who work for the Australian government everyday, to do there job in a honest way . when dealing with so many Australians and other people on there way to Australia who were killed when they was blow out of the sky over Ukraine

so fuck you, and fuck the crazy planet you are from



Edited by adrtho: 28/2/2016 09:57:38 PM


show me the quotes from the Australian goverment


here you go
fuck you

Edited by adrtho: 28/2/2016 10:09:29 PM


so you've got nothing then shit talker


what part is it bullshit? that the hard working people working in Australian Governments?

Quote:
Australia became the latest country to accuse Russia of shooting down Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17, when on Tuesday, Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott revealed to Russian President Vladimir Putin that Australian intelligence information points the finger directly at his country.


link


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Iridium1010 wrote:
Heres the white paper.

http://www.defence.gov.au/whitepaper/Docs/2016-Defence-White-Paper.pdf

Makes mention of China, ukraine, IS etc.


interesting...

no mention of the violation of international law of Australians bombing a sovereign nation in Syria uninvited

Quote:
Events during the three years since the release of the last Defence White
Paper in 2013 demonstrate how rapidly Australia’s security environment
can change .The relationship between the United States and China
continues to evolve and will be fundamental to our future strategic
circumstances .Territorial disputes between claimants in the East China
and South China Seas have created uncertainty and tension in our region .
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea continues to be a source of
instability .State fragility has helped enable the rise of Daesh (also known
as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) terrorists in the Middle East,
incidents across the world have demonstrated the pervasive nature of the
threat of terrorism, and [size=8]a violation of international law led to the deaths of
Australians in the skies over Ukraine[/size] .Some matters that previous Defence
White Papers have described as longer-term issues, such as the impact
of military modernisation in our region, now fall to this White Paper to
respond to .



Russian Army shot down MH17 , killed all those people on there way to Australia


Russian Army? :lol:

Evidence?

So lets violate international law and bomb Syria. Makes perfect sense.
Much like invading Iraq because some Saudis attacked NYC. Makes perfect sense.

Edited by TheFactOfTheMatter: 26/2/2016 02:15:16 AM


we know the Russia army unit , know the names Russian solider ...

anyway, who died and made you king , you're a fucking nobody, why should they give evidence to you


and who gave you the evidence?


why do i need it? why would i not believe the Australia government when dealing with so many dead Australians ? kids shot from the sky, falling to ground with out there clothes left on them

fuck you


the Australian government never claimed the Russian army shot down MH17



yes they did .,,it why Europe agree to put sanctions on Russia....









no they didnt
you have no evidence


there lots of evidence....but you do the same thing as Russia does, you put up 5 other crazy ideas and say they could be possible ...as this is not a court a law, where we can question witness

Russia shot down MH17
sanctions went on Russia because of it

and here the best part
fucking sanctions are not coming off Russia for a very long time



Edited by adrtho: 26/2/2016 11:39:41 PM


You claimed and I quote, "the Russian army shot down MH17".
You claim sanctions as evidence. That's not evidence of anything.

Provide evidence or shut the fuck up shit talker.


maybe you can tell Putin to let the Dutch safety board to be able to questions the Russian solders who shot it down? Ok, how about letting the driver of the Buk surface-to-air missile that cross from Russia it to Ukraine and then shot it down to be questions

Russia shot MH17 down
they know the truck that cary the Buk surface-to-air missile to Ukraine
They know the driver name
they know the Russia army Unit the Buk surface-to-air missile was with
they know the name of the soilders in this Russian Army Unit
they know to the minute when the missile was fired
they know where it was fired
they know when and how the Buk then travel back to Russia
they know everything

Tony Abbott get a lot of shit, but this was him and Julie Bishop finest hour, all Australian should be proud of both them (other to), they gave Europe some fucking balls, with out Tony Abbott or Julie Bishop (Australia government) there would be no sanctions on Russia











...so no evidence then?


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia


no it isnt

still waiting evidence of your claim "russian army shot down MH17"


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia

[size=8]show the evidence that Russia didn't do it[/size]


you've been caught out. this is effectively an admission of defeat by you

you have no evidence




MH17 was shot down by a Buk surface-to-air missile, theses buk can not brought at the corner shop...they need a big trunk to transport them , and they need train me to operate.... this means Russian army or Ukraine army

there so much evidence saying it was Russia,
they have traffic cam video of the Buk traveling from Russia to it spot in Ukraine where it fired, they have the traffic cam video of the Buk traveling back to Russia minus one ...they know everything

Russia did it, they shot down and killed all those Australians


hearsay of dash cam is your evidence? are you fucking serious? what is it a youtube video?
can you verify where is was taken?

this wasnt in the Dutch report

you have no evidence. plenty of Buks in Ukraine prior to the war breaking out.

still waiting for you evidence shit talker




Australia Government (the people who work everyday for government not the politicians) have all the evidence...it why the PM of Australia came out and said...the Buk sam was from Russia, it came from Russia, and it was Russia who shot it down

I thrust all the hard working people, who work for the Australian government everyday, to do there job in a honest way . when dealing with so many Australians and other people on there way to Australia who were killed when they was blow out of the sky over Ukraine

so fuck you, and fuck the crazy planet you are from



Edited by adrtho: 28/2/2016 09:57:38 PM


show me the quotes from the Australian goverment


here you go
fuck you

Edited by adrtho: 28/2/2016 10:09:29 PM


so you've got nothing then shit talker
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Iridium1010 wrote:
Heres the white paper.

http://www.defence.gov.au/whitepaper/Docs/2016-Defence-White-Paper.pdf

Makes mention of China, ukraine, IS etc.


interesting...

no mention of the violation of international law of Australians bombing a sovereign nation in Syria uninvited

Quote:
Events during the three years since the release of the last Defence White
Paper in 2013 demonstrate how rapidly Australia’s security environment
can change .The relationship between the United States and China
continues to evolve and will be fundamental to our future strategic
circumstances .Territorial disputes between claimants in the East China
and South China Seas have created uncertainty and tension in our region .
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea continues to be a source of
instability .State fragility has helped enable the rise of Daesh (also known
as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) terrorists in the Middle East,
incidents across the world have demonstrated the pervasive nature of the
threat of terrorism, and [size=8]a violation of international law led to the deaths of
Australians in the skies over Ukraine[/size] .Some matters that previous Defence
White Papers have described as longer-term issues, such as the impact
of military modernisation in our region, now fall to this White Paper to
respond to .



Russian Army shot down MH17 , killed all those people on there way to Australia


Russian Army? :lol:

Evidence?

So lets violate international law and bomb Syria. Makes perfect sense.
Much like invading Iraq because some Saudis attacked NYC. Makes perfect sense.

Edited by TheFactOfTheMatter: 26/2/2016 02:15:16 AM


we know the Russia army unit , know the names Russian solider ...

anyway, who died and made you king , you're a fucking nobody, why should they give evidence to you


and who gave you the evidence?


why do i need it? why would i not believe the Australia government when dealing with so many dead Australians ? kids shot from the sky, falling to ground with out there clothes left on them

fuck you


the Australian government never claimed the Russian army shot down MH17



yes they did .,,it why Europe agree to put sanctions on Russia....









no they didnt
you have no evidence


there lots of evidence....but you do the same thing as Russia does, you put up 5 other crazy ideas and say they could be possible ...as this is not a court a law, where we can question witness

Russia shot down MH17
sanctions went on Russia because of it

and here the best part
fucking sanctions are not coming off Russia for a very long time



Edited by adrtho: 26/2/2016 11:39:41 PM


You claimed and I quote, "the Russian army shot down MH17".
You claim sanctions as evidence. That's not evidence of anything.

Provide evidence or shut the fuck up shit talker.


maybe you can tell Putin to let the Dutch safety board to be able to questions the Russian solders who shot it down? Ok, how about letting the driver of the Buk surface-to-air missile that cross from Russia it to Ukraine and then shot it down to be questions

Russia shot MH17 down
they know the truck that cary the Buk surface-to-air missile to Ukraine
They know the driver name
they know the Russia army Unit the Buk surface-to-air missile was with
they know the name of the soilders in this Russian Army Unit
they know to the minute when the missile was fired
they know where it was fired
they know when and how the Buk then travel back to Russia
they know everything

Tony Abbott get a lot of shit, but this was him and Julie Bishop finest hour, all Australian should be proud of both them (other to), they gave Europe some fucking balls, with out Tony Abbott or Julie Bishop (Australia government) there would be no sanctions on Russia











...so no evidence then?


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia


no it isnt

still waiting evidence of your claim "russian army shot down MH17"


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia

[size=8]show the evidence that Russia didn't do it[/size]


you've been caught out. this is effectively an admission of defeat by you

you have no evidence




MH17 was shot down by a Buk surface-to-air missile, theses buk can not brought at the corner shop...they need a big trunk to transport them , and they need train me to operate.... this means Russian army or Ukraine army

there so much evidence saying it was Russia,
they have traffic cam video of the Buk traveling from Russia to it spot in Ukraine where it fired, they have the traffic cam video of the Buk traveling back to Russia minus one ...they know everything

Russia did it, they shot down and killed all those Australians


hearsay of dash cam is your evidence? are you fucking serious? what is it a youtube video?
can you verify where is was taken?

this wasnt in the Dutch report

you have no evidence. plenty of Buks in Ukraine prior to the war breaking out.

still waiting for you evidence shit talker




Australia Government (the people who work everyday for government not the politicians) have all the evidence...it why the PM of Australia came out and said...the Buk sam was from Russia, it came from Russia, and it was Russia who shot it down

I thrust all the hard working people, who work for the Australian government everyday, to do there job in a honest way . when dealing with so many Australians and other people on there way to Australia who were killed when they was blow out of the sky over Ukraine

so fuck you, and fuck the crazy planet you are from



Edited by adrtho: 28/2/2016 09:57:38 PM


show me the quotes from the Australian goverment


here you go
fuck you



Edited by adrtho: 28/2/2016 10:11:14 PM
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Iridium1010 wrote:
Heres the white paper.

http://www.defence.gov.au/whitepaper/Docs/2016-Defence-White-Paper.pdf

Makes mention of China, ukraine, IS etc.


interesting...

no mention of the violation of international law of Australians bombing a sovereign nation in Syria uninvited

Quote:
Events during the three years since the release of the last Defence White
Paper in 2013 demonstrate how rapidly Australia’s security environment
can change .The relationship between the United States and China
continues to evolve and will be fundamental to our future strategic
circumstances .Territorial disputes between claimants in the East China
and South China Seas have created uncertainty and tension in our region .
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea continues to be a source of
instability .State fragility has helped enable the rise of Daesh (also known
as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) terrorists in the Middle East,
incidents across the world have demonstrated the pervasive nature of the
threat of terrorism, and [size=8]a violation of international law led to the deaths of
Australians in the skies over Ukraine[/size] .Some matters that previous Defence
White Papers have described as longer-term issues, such as the impact
of military modernisation in our region, now fall to this White Paper to
respond to .



Russian Army shot down MH17 , killed all those people on there way to Australia


Russian Army? :lol:

Evidence?

So lets violate international law and bomb Syria. Makes perfect sense.
Much like invading Iraq because some Saudis attacked NYC. Makes perfect sense.

Edited by TheFactOfTheMatter: 26/2/2016 02:15:16 AM


we know the Russia army unit , know the names Russian solider ...

anyway, who died and made you king , you're a fucking nobody, why should they give evidence to you


and who gave you the evidence?


why do i need it? why would i not believe the Australia government when dealing with so many dead Australians ? kids shot from the sky, falling to ground with out there clothes left on them

fuck you


the Australian government never claimed the Russian army shot down MH17



yes they did .,,it why Europe agree to put sanctions on Russia....









no they didnt
you have no evidence


there lots of evidence....but you do the same thing as Russia does, you put up 5 other crazy ideas and say they could be possible ...as this is not a court a law, where we can question witness

Russia shot down MH17
sanctions went on Russia because of it

and here the best part
fucking sanctions are not coming off Russia for a very long time



Edited by adrtho: 26/2/2016 11:39:41 PM


You claimed and I quote, "the Russian army shot down MH17".
You claim sanctions as evidence. That's not evidence of anything.

Provide evidence or shut the fuck up shit talker.


maybe you can tell Putin to let the Dutch safety board to be able to questions the Russian solders who shot it down? Ok, how about letting the driver of the Buk surface-to-air missile that cross from Russia it to Ukraine and then shot it down to be questions

Russia shot MH17 down
they know the truck that cary the Buk surface-to-air missile to Ukraine
They know the driver name
they know the Russia army Unit the Buk surface-to-air missile was with
they know the name of the soilders in this Russian Army Unit
they know to the minute when the missile was fired
they know where it was fired
they know when and how the Buk then travel back to Russia
they know everything

Tony Abbott get a lot of shit, but this was him and Julie Bishop finest hour, all Australian should be proud of both them (other to), they gave Europe some fucking balls, with out Tony Abbott or Julie Bishop (Australia government) there would be no sanctions on Russia











...so no evidence then?


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia


no it isnt

still waiting evidence of your claim "russian army shot down MH17"


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia

[size=8]show the evidence that Russia didn't do it[/size]


you've been caught out. this is effectively an admission of defeat by you

you have no evidence




MH17 was shot down by a Buk surface-to-air missile, theses buk can not brought at the corner shop...they need a big trunk to transport them , and they need train me to operate.... this means Russian army or Ukraine army

there so much evidence saying it was Russia,
they have traffic cam video of the Buk traveling from Russia to it spot in Ukraine where it fired, they have the traffic cam video of the Buk traveling back to Russia minus one ...they know everything

Russia did it, they shot down and killed all those Australians


hearsay of dash cam is your evidence? are you fucking serious? what is it a youtube video?
can you verify where is was taken?

this wasnt in the Dutch report

you have no evidence. plenty of Buks in Ukraine prior to the war breaking out.

still waiting for you evidence shit talker




Australia Government (the people who work everyday for government not the politicians) have all the evidence...it why the PM of Australia came out and said...the Buk sam was from Russia, it came from Russia, and it was Russia who shot it down

I thrust all the hard working people, who work for the Australian government everyday, to do there job in a honest way . when dealing with so many Australians and other people on there way to Australia who were killed when they was blow out of the sky over Ukraine

so fuck you, and fuck the crazy planet you are from



Edited by adrtho: 28/2/2016 09:57:38 PM


show me the quotes from the Australian goverment
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TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
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adrtho wrote:
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adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
Iridium1010 wrote:
Heres the white paper.

http://www.defence.gov.au/whitepaper/Docs/2016-Defence-White-Paper.pdf

Makes mention of China, ukraine, IS etc.


interesting...

no mention of the violation of international law of Australians bombing a sovereign nation in Syria uninvited

Quote:
Events during the three years since the release of the last Defence White
Paper in 2013 demonstrate how rapidly Australia’s security environment
can change .The relationship between the United States and China
continues to evolve and will be fundamental to our future strategic
circumstances .Territorial disputes between claimants in the East China
and South China Seas have created uncertainty and tension in our region .
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea continues to be a source of
instability .State fragility has helped enable the rise of Daesh (also known
as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) terrorists in the Middle East,
incidents across the world have demonstrated the pervasive nature of the
threat of terrorism, and [size=8]a violation of international law led to the deaths of
Australians in the skies over Ukraine[/size] .Some matters that previous Defence
White Papers have described as longer-term issues, such as the impact
of military modernisation in our region, now fall to this White Paper to
respond to .



Russian Army shot down MH17 , killed all those people on there way to Australia


Russian Army? :lol:

Evidence?

So lets violate international law and bomb Syria. Makes perfect sense.
Much like invading Iraq because some Saudis attacked NYC. Makes perfect sense.

Edited by TheFactOfTheMatter: 26/2/2016 02:15:16 AM


we know the Russia army unit , know the names Russian solider ...

anyway, who died and made you king , you're a fucking nobody, why should they give evidence to you


and who gave you the evidence?


why do i need it? why would i not believe the Australia government when dealing with so many dead Australians ? kids shot from the sky, falling to ground with out there clothes left on them

fuck you


the Australian government never claimed the Russian army shot down MH17



yes they did .,,it why Europe agree to put sanctions on Russia....









no they didnt
you have no evidence


there lots of evidence....but you do the same thing as Russia does, you put up 5 other crazy ideas and say they could be possible ...as this is not a court a law, where we can question witness

Russia shot down MH17
sanctions went on Russia because of it

and here the best part
fucking sanctions are not coming off Russia for a very long time



Edited by adrtho: 26/2/2016 11:39:41 PM


You claimed and I quote, "the Russian army shot down MH17".
You claim sanctions as evidence. That's not evidence of anything.

Provide evidence or shut the fuck up shit talker.


maybe you can tell Putin to let the Dutch safety board to be able to questions the Russian solders who shot it down? Ok, how about letting the driver of the Buk surface-to-air missile that cross from Russia it to Ukraine and then shot it down to be questions

Russia shot MH17 down
they know the truck that cary the Buk surface-to-air missile to Ukraine
They know the driver name
they know the Russia army Unit the Buk surface-to-air missile was with
they know the name of the soilders in this Russian Army Unit
they know to the minute when the missile was fired
they know where it was fired
they know when and how the Buk then travel back to Russia
they know everything

Tony Abbott get a lot of shit, but this was him and Julie Bishop finest hour, all Australian should be proud of both them (other to), they gave Europe some fucking balls, with out Tony Abbott or Julie Bishop (Australia government) there would be no sanctions on Russia











...so no evidence then?


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia


no it isnt

still waiting evidence of your claim "russian army shot down MH17"


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia

[size=8]show the evidence that Russia didn't do it[/size]


you've been caught out. this is effectively an admission of defeat by you

you have no evidence




MH17 was shot down by a Buk surface-to-air missile, theses buk can not brought at the corner shop...they need a big trunk to transport them , and they need train me to operate.... this means Russian army or Ukraine army

there so much evidence saying it was Russia,
they have traffic cam video of the Buk traveling from Russia to it spot in Ukraine where it fired, they have the traffic cam video of the Buk traveling back to Russia minus one ...they know everything

Russia did it, they shot down and killed all those Australians


hearsay of dash cam is your evidence? are you fucking serious? what is it a youtube video?
can you verify where is was taken?

this wasnt in the Dutch report

you have no evidence. plenty of Buks in Ukraine prior to the war breaking out.

still waiting for you evidence shit talker




Australia Government (the people who work everyday for government not the politicians) have all the evidence...it why the PM of Australia came out and said...the Buk sam was from Russia, it came from Russia, and it was Russia who shot it down

I thrust all the hard working people, who work for the Australian government everyday, to do there job in a honest way . when dealing with so many Australians and other people on there way to Australia who were killed when they was blow out of the sky over Ukraine

so fuck you, and fuck the crazy planet you are from



Edited by adrtho: 28/2/2016 09:57:38 PM
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adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
Iridium1010 wrote:
Heres the white paper.

http://www.defence.gov.au/whitepaper/Docs/2016-Defence-White-Paper.pdf

Makes mention of China, ukraine, IS etc.


interesting...

no mention of the violation of international law of Australians bombing a sovereign nation in Syria uninvited

Quote:
Events during the three years since the release of the last Defence White
Paper in 2013 demonstrate how rapidly Australia’s security environment
can change .The relationship between the United States and China
continues to evolve and will be fundamental to our future strategic
circumstances .Territorial disputes between claimants in the East China
and South China Seas have created uncertainty and tension in our region .
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea continues to be a source of
instability .State fragility has helped enable the rise of Daesh (also known
as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) terrorists in the Middle East,
incidents across the world have demonstrated the pervasive nature of the
threat of terrorism, and [size=8]a violation of international law led to the deaths of
Australians in the skies over Ukraine[/size] .Some matters that previous Defence
White Papers have described as longer-term issues, such as the impact
of military modernisation in our region, now fall to this White Paper to
respond to .



Russian Army shot down MH17 , killed all those people on there way to Australia


Russian Army? :lol:

Evidence?

So lets violate international law and bomb Syria. Makes perfect sense.
Much like invading Iraq because some Saudis attacked NYC. Makes perfect sense.

Edited by TheFactOfTheMatter: 26/2/2016 02:15:16 AM


we know the Russia army unit , know the names Russian solider ...

anyway, who died and made you king , you're a fucking nobody, why should they give evidence to you


and who gave you the evidence?


why do i need it? why would i not believe the Australia government when dealing with so many dead Australians ? kids shot from the sky, falling to ground with out there clothes left on them

fuck you


the Australian government never claimed the Russian army shot down MH17



yes they did .,,it why Europe agree to put sanctions on Russia....









no they didnt
you have no evidence


there lots of evidence....but you do the same thing as Russia does, you put up 5 other crazy ideas and say they could be possible ...as this is not a court a law, where we can question witness

Russia shot down MH17
sanctions went on Russia because of it

and here the best part
fucking sanctions are not coming off Russia for a very long time



Edited by adrtho: 26/2/2016 11:39:41 PM


You claimed and I quote, "the Russian army shot down MH17".
You claim sanctions as evidence. That's not evidence of anything.

Provide evidence or shut the fuck up shit talker.


maybe you can tell Putin to let the Dutch safety board to be able to questions the Russian solders who shot it down? Ok, how about letting the driver of the Buk surface-to-air missile that cross from Russia it to Ukraine and then shot it down to be questions

Russia shot MH17 down
they know the truck that cary the Buk surface-to-air missile to Ukraine
They know the driver name
they know the Russia army Unit the Buk surface-to-air missile was with
they know the name of the soilders in this Russian Army Unit
they know to the minute when the missile was fired
they know where it was fired
they know when and how the Buk then travel back to Russia
they know everything

Tony Abbott get a lot of shit, but this was him and Julie Bishop finest hour, all Australian should be proud of both them (other to), they gave Europe some fucking balls, with out Tony Abbott or Julie Bishop (Australia government) there would be no sanctions on Russia











...so no evidence then?


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia


no it isnt

still waiting evidence of your claim "russian army shot down MH17"


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia

[size=8]show the evidence that Russia didn't do it[/size]


you've been caught out. this is effectively an admission of defeat by you

you have no evidence




MH17 was shot down by a Buk surface-to-air missile, theses buk can not brought at the corner shop...they need a big trunk to transport them , and they need train me to operate.... this means Russian army or Ukraine army

there so much evidence saying it was Russia,
they have traffic cam video of the Buk traveling from Russia to it spot in Ukraine where it fired, they have the traffic cam video of the Buk traveling back to Russia minus one ...they know everything

Russia did it, they shot down and killed all those Australians


hearsay of dash cam is your evidence? are you fucking serious? what is it a youtube video?
can you verify where is was taken?

this wasnt in the Dutch report

you have no evidence. plenty of Buks in Ukraine prior to the war breaking out.

still waiting for you evidence shit talker
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adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
Iridium1010 wrote:
Heres the white paper.

http://www.defence.gov.au/whitepaper/Docs/2016-Defence-White-Paper.pdf

Makes mention of China, ukraine, IS etc.


interesting...

no mention of the violation of international law of Australians bombing a sovereign nation in Syria uninvited

Quote:
Events during the three years since the release of the last Defence White
Paper in 2013 demonstrate how rapidly Australia’s security environment
can change .The relationship between the United States and China
continues to evolve and will be fundamental to our future strategic
circumstances .Territorial disputes between claimants in the East China
and South China Seas have created uncertainty and tension in our region .
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea continues to be a source of
instability .State fragility has helped enable the rise of Daesh (also known
as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) terrorists in the Middle East,
incidents across the world have demonstrated the pervasive nature of the
threat of terrorism, and [size=8]a violation of international law led to the deaths of
Australians in the skies over Ukraine[/size] .Some matters that previous Defence
White Papers have described as longer-term issues, such as the impact
of military modernisation in our region, now fall to this White Paper to
respond to .



Russian Army shot down MH17 , killed all those people on there way to Australia


Russian Army? :lol:

Evidence?

So lets violate international law and bomb Syria. Makes perfect sense.
Much like invading Iraq because some Saudis attacked NYC. Makes perfect sense.

Edited by TheFactOfTheMatter: 26/2/2016 02:15:16 AM


we know the Russia army unit , know the names Russian solider ...

anyway, who died and made you king , you're a fucking nobody, why should they give evidence to you


and who gave you the evidence?


why do i need it? why would i not believe the Australia government when dealing with so many dead Australians ? kids shot from the sky, falling to ground with out there clothes left on them

fuck you


the Australian government never claimed the Russian army shot down MH17



yes they did .,,it why Europe agree to put sanctions on Russia....









no they didnt
you have no evidence


there lots of evidence....but you do the same thing as Russia does, you put up 5 other crazy ideas and say they could be possible ...as this is not a court a law, where we can question witness

Russia shot down MH17
sanctions went on Russia because of it

and here the best part
fucking sanctions are not coming off Russia for a very long time



Edited by adrtho: 26/2/2016 11:39:41 PM


You claimed and I quote, "the Russian army shot down MH17".
You claim sanctions as evidence. That's not evidence of anything.

Provide evidence or shut the fuck up shit talker.


maybe you can tell Putin to let the Dutch safety board to be able to questions the Russian solders who shot it down? Ok, how about letting the driver of the Buk surface-to-air missile that cross from Russia it to Ukraine and then shot it down to be questions

Russia shot MH17 down
they know the truck that cary the Buk surface-to-air missile to Ukraine
They know the driver name
they know the Russia army Unit the Buk surface-to-air missile was with
they know the name of the soilders in this Russian Army Unit
they know to the minute when the missile was fired
they know where it was fired
they know when and how the Buk then travel back to Russia
they know everything

Tony Abbott get a lot of shit, but this was him and Julie Bishop finest hour, all Australian should be proud of both them (other to), they gave Europe some fucking balls, with out Tony Abbott or Julie Bishop (Australia government) there would be no sanctions on Russia











...so no evidence then?


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia


no it isnt

still waiting evidence of your claim "russian army shot down MH17"


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia

[size=8]show the evidence that Russia didn't do it[/size]


you've been caught out. this is effectively an admission of defeat by you

you have no evidence




MH17 was shot down by a Buk surface-to-air missile, theses buk can not brought at the corner shop...they need a big trunk to transport them , and they need train me to operate.... this means Russian army or Ukraine army

there so much evidence saying it was Russia,
they have traffic cam video of the Buk traveling from Russia to it spot in Ukraine where it fired, they have the traffic cam video of the Buk traveling back to Russia minus one ...they know everything

Russia did it, they shot down and killed all those Australians

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TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
Iridium1010 wrote:
Heres the white paper.

http://www.defence.gov.au/whitepaper/Docs/2016-Defence-White-Paper.pdf

Makes mention of China, ukraine, IS etc.


interesting...

no mention of the violation of international law of Australians bombing a sovereign nation in Syria uninvited

Quote:
Events during the three years since the release of the last Defence White
Paper in 2013 demonstrate how rapidly Australia’s security environment
can change .The relationship between the United States and China
continues to evolve and will be fundamental to our future strategic
circumstances .Territorial disputes between claimants in the East China
and South China Seas have created uncertainty and tension in our region .
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea continues to be a source of
instability .State fragility has helped enable the rise of Daesh (also known
as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) terrorists in the Middle East,
incidents across the world have demonstrated the pervasive nature of the
threat of terrorism, and [size=8]a violation of international law led to the deaths of
Australians in the skies over Ukraine[/size] .Some matters that previous Defence
White Papers have described as longer-term issues, such as the impact
of military modernisation in our region, now fall to this White Paper to
respond to .



Russian Army shot down MH17 , killed all those people on there way to Australia


Russian Army? :lol:

Evidence?

So lets violate international law and bomb Syria. Makes perfect sense.
Much like invading Iraq because some Saudis attacked NYC. Makes perfect sense.

Edited by TheFactOfTheMatter: 26/2/2016 02:15:16 AM


we know the Russia army unit , know the names Russian solider ...

anyway, who died and made you king , you're a fucking nobody, why should they give evidence to you


and who gave you the evidence?


why do i need it? why would i not believe the Australia government when dealing with so many dead Australians ? kids shot from the sky, falling to ground with out there clothes left on them

fuck you


the Australian government never claimed the Russian army shot down MH17



yes they did .,,it why Europe agree to put sanctions on Russia....









no they didnt
you have no evidence


there lots of evidence....but you do the same thing as Russia does, you put up 5 other crazy ideas and say they could be possible ...as this is not a court a law, where we can question witness

Russia shot down MH17
sanctions went on Russia because of it

and here the best part
fucking sanctions are not coming off Russia for a very long time



Edited by adrtho: 26/2/2016 11:39:41 PM


You claimed and I quote, "the Russian army shot down MH17".
You claim sanctions as evidence. That's not evidence of anything.

Provide evidence or shut the fuck up shit talker.


maybe you can tell Putin to let the Dutch safety board to be able to questions the Russian solders who shot it down? Ok, how about letting the driver of the Buk surface-to-air missile that cross from Russia it to Ukraine and then shot it down to be questions

Russia shot MH17 down
they know the truck that cary the Buk surface-to-air missile to Ukraine
They know the driver name
they know the Russia army Unit the Buk surface-to-air missile was with
they know the name of the soilders in this Russian Army Unit
they know to the minute when the missile was fired
they know where it was fired
they know when and how the Buk then travel back to Russia
they know everything

Tony Abbott get a lot of shit, but this was him and Julie Bishop finest hour, all Australian should be proud of both them (other to), they gave Europe some fucking balls, with out Tony Abbott or Julie Bishop (Australia government) there would be no sanctions on Russia











...so no evidence then?


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia


no it isnt

still waiting evidence of your claim "russian army shot down MH17"


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia

[size=8]show the evidence that Russia didn't do it[/size]


you've been caught out. this is effectively an admission of defeat by you

you have no evidence
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TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
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adrtho wrote:
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adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
Iridium1010 wrote:
Heres the white paper.

http://www.defence.gov.au/whitepaper/Docs/2016-Defence-White-Paper.pdf

Makes mention of China, ukraine, IS etc.


interesting...

no mention of the violation of international law of Australians bombing a sovereign nation in Syria uninvited

Quote:
Events during the three years since the release of the last Defence White
Paper in 2013 demonstrate how rapidly Australia’s security environment
can change .The relationship between the United States and China
continues to evolve and will be fundamental to our future strategic
circumstances .Territorial disputes between claimants in the East China
and South China Seas have created uncertainty and tension in our region .
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea continues to be a source of
instability .State fragility has helped enable the rise of Daesh (also known
as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) terrorists in the Middle East,
incidents across the world have demonstrated the pervasive nature of the
threat of terrorism, and [size=8]a violation of international law led to the deaths of
Australians in the skies over Ukraine[/size] .Some matters that previous Defence
White Papers have described as longer-term issues, such as the impact
of military modernisation in our region, now fall to this White Paper to
respond to .



Russian Army shot down MH17 , killed all those people on there way to Australia


Russian Army? :lol:

Evidence?

So lets violate international law and bomb Syria. Makes perfect sense.
Much like invading Iraq because some Saudis attacked NYC. Makes perfect sense.

Edited by TheFactOfTheMatter: 26/2/2016 02:15:16 AM


we know the Russia army unit , know the names Russian solider ...

anyway, who died and made you king , you're a fucking nobody, why should they give evidence to you


and who gave you the evidence?


why do i need it? why would i not believe the Australia government when dealing with so many dead Australians ? kids shot from the sky, falling to ground with out there clothes left on them

fuck you


the Australian government never claimed the Russian army shot down MH17



yes they did .,,it why Europe agree to put sanctions on Russia....









no they didnt
you have no evidence


there lots of evidence....but you do the same thing as Russia does, you put up 5 other crazy ideas and say they could be possible ...as this is not a court a law, where we can question witness

Russia shot down MH17
sanctions went on Russia because of it

and here the best part
fucking sanctions are not coming off Russia for a very long time



Edited by adrtho: 26/2/2016 11:39:41 PM


You claimed and I quote, "the Russian army shot down MH17".
You claim sanctions as evidence. That's not evidence of anything.

Provide evidence or shut the fuck up shit talker.


maybe you can tell Putin to let the Dutch safety board to be able to questions the Russian solders who shot it down? Ok, how about letting the driver of the Buk surface-to-air missile that cross from Russia it to Ukraine and then shot it down to be questions

Russia shot MH17 down
they know the truck that cary the Buk surface-to-air missile to Ukraine
They know the driver name
they know the Russia army Unit the Buk surface-to-air missile was with
they know the name of the soilders in this Russian Army Unit
they know to the minute when the missile was fired
they know where it was fired
they know when and how the Buk then travel back to Russia
they know everything

Tony Abbott get a lot of shit, but this was him and Julie Bishop finest hour, all Australian should be proud of both them (other to), they gave Europe some fucking balls, with out Tony Abbott or Julie Bishop (Australia government) there would be no sanctions on Russia











...so no evidence then?


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia


no it isnt

still waiting evidence of your claim "russian army shot down MH17"


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia

show the evidence that Russia didn't do it
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adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
Iridium1010 wrote:
Heres the white paper.

http://www.defence.gov.au/whitepaper/Docs/2016-Defence-White-Paper.pdf

Makes mention of China, ukraine, IS etc.


interesting...

no mention of the violation of international law of Australians bombing a sovereign nation in Syria uninvited

Quote:
Events during the three years since the release of the last Defence White
Paper in 2013 demonstrate how rapidly Australia’s security environment
can change .The relationship between the United States and China
continues to evolve and will be fundamental to our future strategic
circumstances .Territorial disputes between claimants in the East China
and South China Seas have created uncertainty and tension in our region .
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea continues to be a source of
instability .State fragility has helped enable the rise of Daesh (also known
as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) terrorists in the Middle East,
incidents across the world have demonstrated the pervasive nature of the
threat of terrorism, and [size=8]a violation of international law led to the deaths of
Australians in the skies over Ukraine[/size] .Some matters that previous Defence
White Papers have described as longer-term issues, such as the impact
of military modernisation in our region, now fall to this White Paper to
respond to .



Russian Army shot down MH17 , killed all those people on there way to Australia


Russian Army? :lol:

Evidence?

So lets violate international law and bomb Syria. Makes perfect sense.
Much like invading Iraq because some Saudis attacked NYC. Makes perfect sense.

Edited by TheFactOfTheMatter: 26/2/2016 02:15:16 AM


we know the Russia army unit , know the names Russian solider ...

anyway, who died and made you king , you're a fucking nobody, why should they give evidence to you


and who gave you the evidence?


why do i need it? why would i not believe the Australia government when dealing with so many dead Australians ? kids shot from the sky, falling to ground with out there clothes left on them

fuck you


the Australian government never claimed the Russian army shot down MH17



yes they did .,,it why Europe agree to put sanctions on Russia....









no they didnt
you have no evidence


there lots of evidence....but you do the same thing as Russia does, you put up 5 other crazy ideas and say they could be possible ...as this is not a court a law, where we can question witness

Russia shot down MH17
sanctions went on Russia because of it

and here the best part
fucking sanctions are not coming off Russia for a very long time



Edited by adrtho: 26/2/2016 11:39:41 PM


You claimed and I quote, "the Russian army shot down MH17".
You claim sanctions as evidence. That's not evidence of anything.

Provide evidence or shut the fuck up shit talker.


maybe you can tell Putin to let the Dutch safety board to be able to questions the Russian solders who shot it down? Ok, how about letting the driver of the Buk surface-to-air missile that cross from Russia it to Ukraine and then shot it down to be questions

Russia shot MH17 down
they know the truck that cary the Buk surface-to-air missile to Ukraine
They know the driver name
they know the Russia army Unit the Buk surface-to-air missile was with
they know the name of the soilders in this Russian Army Unit
they know to the minute when the missile was fired
they know where it was fired
they know when and how the Buk then travel back to Russia
they know everything

Tony Abbott get a lot of shit, but this was him and Julie Bishop finest hour, all Australian should be proud of both them (other to), they gave Europe some fucking balls, with out Tony Abbott or Julie Bishop (Australia government) there would be no sanctions on Russia











...so no evidence then?


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia


no it isnt

still waiting evidence of your claim "russian army shot down MH17"
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TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
Iridium1010 wrote:
Heres the white paper.

http://www.defence.gov.au/whitepaper/Docs/2016-Defence-White-Paper.pdf

Makes mention of China, ukraine, IS etc.


interesting...

no mention of the violation of international law of Australians bombing a sovereign nation in Syria uninvited

Quote:
Events during the three years since the release of the last Defence White
Paper in 2013 demonstrate how rapidly Australia’s security environment
can change .The relationship between the United States and China
continues to evolve and will be fundamental to our future strategic
circumstances .Territorial disputes between claimants in the East China
and South China Seas have created uncertainty and tension in our region .
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea continues to be a source of
instability .State fragility has helped enable the rise of Daesh (also known
as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) terrorists in the Middle East,
incidents across the world have demonstrated the pervasive nature of the
threat of terrorism, and [size=8]a violation of international law led to the deaths of
Australians in the skies over Ukraine[/size] .Some matters that previous Defence
White Papers have described as longer-term issues, such as the impact
of military modernisation in our region, now fall to this White Paper to
respond to .



Russian Army shot down MH17 , killed all those people on there way to Australia


Russian Army? :lol:

Evidence?

So lets violate international law and bomb Syria. Makes perfect sense.
Much like invading Iraq because some Saudis attacked NYC. Makes perfect sense.

Edited by TheFactOfTheMatter: 26/2/2016 02:15:16 AM


we know the Russia army unit , know the names Russian solider ...

anyway, who died and made you king , you're a fucking nobody, why should they give evidence to you


and who gave you the evidence?


why do i need it? why would i not believe the Australia government when dealing with so many dead Australians ? kids shot from the sky, falling to ground with out there clothes left on them

fuck you


the Australian government never claimed the Russian army shot down MH17



yes they did .,,it why Europe agree to put sanctions on Russia....









no they didnt
you have no evidence


there lots of evidence....but you do the same thing as Russia does, you put up 5 other crazy ideas and say they could be possible ...as this is not a court a law, where we can question witness

Russia shot down MH17
sanctions went on Russia because of it

and here the best part
fucking sanctions are not coming off Russia for a very long time



Edited by adrtho: 26/2/2016 11:39:41 PM


You claimed and I quote, "the Russian army shot down MH17".
You claim sanctions as evidence. That's not evidence of anything.

Provide evidence or shut the fuck up shit talker.


maybe you can tell Putin to let the Dutch safety board to be able to questions the Russian solders who shot it down? Ok, how about letting the driver of the Buk surface-to-air missile that cross from Russia it to Ukraine and then shot it down to be questions

Russia shot MH17 down
they know the truck that cary the Buk surface-to-air missile to Ukraine
They know the driver name
they know the Russia army Unit the Buk surface-to-air missile was with
they know the name of the soilders in this Russian Army Unit
they know to the minute when the missile was fired
they know where it was fired
they know when and how the Buk then travel back to Russia
they know everything

Tony Abbott get a lot of shit, but this was him and Julie Bishop finest hour, all Australian should be proud of both them (other to), they gave Europe some fucking balls, with out Tony Abbott or Julie Bishop (Australia government) there would be no sanctions on Russia











...so no evidence then?


lots of evidence, it's why they put sanctions on Russia
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adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
Iridium1010 wrote:
Heres the white paper.

http://www.defence.gov.au/whitepaper/Docs/2016-Defence-White-Paper.pdf

Makes mention of China, ukraine, IS etc.


interesting...

no mention of the violation of international law of Australians bombing a sovereign nation in Syria uninvited

Quote:
Events during the three years since the release of the last Defence White
Paper in 2013 demonstrate how rapidly Australia’s security environment
can change .The relationship between the United States and China
continues to evolve and will be fundamental to our future strategic
circumstances .Territorial disputes between claimants in the East China
and South China Seas have created uncertainty and tension in our region .
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea continues to be a source of
instability .State fragility has helped enable the rise of Daesh (also known
as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) terrorists in the Middle East,
incidents across the world have demonstrated the pervasive nature of the
threat of terrorism, and [size=8]a violation of international law led to the deaths of
Australians in the skies over Ukraine[/size] .Some matters that previous Defence
White Papers have described as longer-term issues, such as the impact
of military modernisation in our region, now fall to this White Paper to
respond to .



Russian Army shot down MH17 , killed all those people on there way to Australia


Russian Army? :lol:

Evidence?

So lets violate international law and bomb Syria. Makes perfect sense.
Much like invading Iraq because some Saudis attacked NYC. Makes perfect sense.

Edited by TheFactOfTheMatter: 26/2/2016 02:15:16 AM


we know the Russia army unit , know the names Russian solider ...

anyway, who died and made you king , you're a fucking nobody, why should they give evidence to you


and who gave you the evidence?


why do i need it? why would i not believe the Australia government when dealing with so many dead Australians ? kids shot from the sky, falling to ground with out there clothes left on them

fuck you


the Australian government never claimed the Russian army shot down MH17



yes they did .,,it why Europe agree to put sanctions on Russia....









no they didnt
you have no evidence


there lots of evidence....but you do the same thing as Russia does, you put up 5 other crazy ideas and say they could be possible ...as this is not a court a law, where we can question witness

Russia shot down MH17
sanctions went on Russia because of it

and here the best part
fucking sanctions are not coming off Russia for a very long time



Edited by adrtho: 26/2/2016 11:39:41 PM


You claimed and I quote, "the Russian army shot down MH17".
You claim sanctions as evidence. That's not evidence of anything.

Provide evidence or shut the fuck up shit talker.


maybe you can tell Putin to let the Dutch safety board to be able to questions the Russian solders who shot it down? Ok, how about letting the driver of the Buk surface-to-air missile that cross from Russia it to Ukraine and then shot it down to be questions

Russia shot MH17 down
they know the truck that cary the Buk surface-to-air missile to Ukraine
They know the driver name
they know the Russia army Unit the Buk surface-to-air missile was with
they know the name of the soilders in this Russian Army Unit
they know to the minute when the missile was fired
they know where it was fired
they know when and how the Buk then travel back to Russia
they know everything

Tony Abbott get a lot of shit, but this was him and Julie Bishop finest hour, all Australian should be proud of both them (other to), they gave Europe some fucking balls, with out Tony Abbott or Julie Bishop (Australia government) there would be no sanctions on Russia











...so no evidence then?
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TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
Iridium1010 wrote:
Heres the white paper.

http://www.defence.gov.au/whitepaper/Docs/2016-Defence-White-Paper.pdf

Makes mention of China, ukraine, IS etc.


interesting...

no mention of the violation of international law of Australians bombing a sovereign nation in Syria uninvited

Quote:
Events during the three years since the release of the last Defence White
Paper in 2013 demonstrate how rapidly Australia’s security environment
can change .The relationship between the United States and China
continues to evolve and will be fundamental to our future strategic
circumstances .Territorial disputes between claimants in the East China
and South China Seas have created uncertainty and tension in our region .
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea continues to be a source of
instability .State fragility has helped enable the rise of Daesh (also known
as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) terrorists in the Middle East,
incidents across the world have demonstrated the pervasive nature of the
threat of terrorism, and [size=8]a violation of international law led to the deaths of
Australians in the skies over Ukraine[/size] .Some matters that previous Defence
White Papers have described as longer-term issues, such as the impact
of military modernisation in our region, now fall to this White Paper to
respond to .



Russian Army shot down MH17 , killed all those people on there way to Australia


Russian Army? :lol:

Evidence?

So lets violate international law and bomb Syria. Makes perfect sense.
Much like invading Iraq because some Saudis attacked NYC. Makes perfect sense.

Edited by TheFactOfTheMatter: 26/2/2016 02:15:16 AM


we know the Russia army unit , know the names Russian solider ...

anyway, who died and made you king , you're a fucking nobody, why should they give evidence to you


and who gave you the evidence?


why do i need it? why would i not believe the Australia government when dealing with so many dead Australians ? kids shot from the sky, falling to ground with out there clothes left on them

fuck you


the Australian government never claimed the Russian army shot down MH17



yes they did .,,it why Europe agree to put sanctions on Russia....









no they didnt
you have no evidence


there lots of evidence....but you do the same thing as Russia does, you put up 5 other crazy ideas and say they could be possible ...as this is not a court a law, where we can question witness

Russia shot down MH17
sanctions went on Russia because of it

and here the best part
fucking sanctions are not coming off Russia for a very long time



Edited by adrtho: 26/2/2016 11:39:41 PM


You claimed and I quote, "the Russian army shot down MH17".
You claim sanctions as evidence. That's not evidence of anything.

Provide evidence or shut the fuck up shit talker.


maybe you can tell Putin to let the Dutch safety board to be able to questions the Russian solders who shot it down? Ok, how about letting the driver of the Buk surface-to-air missile that cross from Russia it to Ukraine and then shot it down to be questions

Russia shot MH17 down
they know the truck that cary the Buk surface-to-air missile to Ukraine
They know the driver name
they know the Russia army Unit the Buk surface-to-air missile was with
they know the name of the soilders in this Russian Army Unit
they know to the minute when the missile was fired
they know where it was fired
they know when and how the Buk then travel back to Russia
they know everything

Tony Abbott get a lot of shit, but this was him and Julie Bishop finest hour, all Australian should be proud of both them (other to), they gave Europe some fucking balls, with out Tony Abbott or Julie Bishop (Australia government) there would be no sanctions on Russia










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adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
Iridium1010 wrote:
Heres the white paper.

http://www.defence.gov.au/whitepaper/Docs/2016-Defence-White-Paper.pdf

Makes mention of China, ukraine, IS etc.


interesting...

no mention of the violation of international law of Australians bombing a sovereign nation in Syria uninvited

Quote:
Events during the three years since the release of the last Defence White
Paper in 2013 demonstrate how rapidly Australia’s security environment
can change .The relationship between the United States and China
continues to evolve and will be fundamental to our future strategic
circumstances .Territorial disputes between claimants in the East China
and South China Seas have created uncertainty and tension in our region .
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea continues to be a source of
instability .State fragility has helped enable the rise of Daesh (also known
as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) terrorists in the Middle East,
incidents across the world have demonstrated the pervasive nature of the
threat of terrorism, and [size=8]a violation of international law led to the deaths of
Australians in the skies over Ukraine[/size] .Some matters that previous Defence
White Papers have described as longer-term issues, such as the impact
of military modernisation in our region, now fall to this White Paper to
respond to .



Russian Army shot down MH17 , killed all those people on there way to Australia


Russian Army? :lol:

Evidence?

So lets violate international law and bomb Syria. Makes perfect sense.
Much like invading Iraq because some Saudis attacked NYC. Makes perfect sense.

Edited by TheFactOfTheMatter: 26/2/2016 02:15:16 AM


we know the Russia army unit , know the names Russian solider ...

anyway, who died and made you king , you're a fucking nobody, why should they give evidence to you


and who gave you the evidence?


why do i need it? why would i not believe the Australia government when dealing with so many dead Australians ? kids shot from the sky, falling to ground with out there clothes left on them

fuck you


the Australian government never claimed the Russian army shot down MH17



yes they did .,,it why Europe agree to put sanctions on Russia....









no they didnt
you have no evidence


there lots of evidence....but you do the same thing as Russia does, you put up 5 other crazy ideas and say they could be possible ...as this is not a court a law, where we can question witness

Russia shot down MH17
sanctions went on Russia because of it

and here the best part
fucking sanctions are not coming off Russia for a very long time



Edited by adrtho: 26/2/2016 11:39:41 PM


You claimed and I quote, "the Russian army shot down MH17".
You claim sanctions as evidence. That's not evidence of anything.

Provide evidence or shut the fuck up shit talker.
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I hate to interrupt the battle between General Reddit and Semen Twitter, but are either of you aware that the Submarine fleet is a strategic resource and not a combat unit, and that their main role is as a surveillance platform? Naval combat is not even close to being at the top of their secondary roles.


:lol:

main goal of Australian Sub, is sea denial control around Australia ..so they better be able blow ships up ...i hope the Navy hasn't forgot that





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I hate to interrupt the battle between General Reddit and Semen Twitter, but are either of you aware that the Submarine fleet is a strategic resource and not a combat unit, and that their main role is as a surveillance platform? Naval combat is not even close to being at the top of their secondary roles.
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adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
Iridium1010 wrote:
Heres the white paper.

http://www.defence.gov.au/whitepaper/Docs/2016-Defence-White-Paper.pdf

Makes mention of China, ukraine, IS etc.


interesting...

no mention of the violation of international law of Australians bombing a sovereign nation in Syria uninvited

Quote:
Events during the three years since the release of the last Defence White
Paper in 2013 demonstrate how rapidly Australia’s security environment
can change .The relationship between the United States and China
continues to evolve and will be fundamental to our future strategic
circumstances .Territorial disputes between claimants in the East China
and South China Seas have created uncertainty and tension in our region .
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea continues to be a source of
instability .State fragility has helped enable the rise of Daesh (also known
as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) terrorists in the Middle East,
incidents across the world have demonstrated the pervasive nature of the
threat of terrorism, and [size=8]a violation of international law led to the deaths of
Australians in the skies over Ukraine[/size] .Some matters that previous Defence
White Papers have described as longer-term issues, such as the impact
of military modernisation in our region, now fall to this White Paper to
respond to .



Russian Army shot down MH17 , killed all those people on there way to Australia


Russian Army? :lol:

Evidence?

So lets violate international law and bomb Syria. Makes perfect sense.
Much like invading Iraq because some Saudis attacked NYC. Makes perfect sense.

Edited by TheFactOfTheMatter: 26/2/2016 02:15:16 AM


we know the Russia army unit , know the names Russian solider ...

anyway, who died and made you king , you're a fucking nobody, why should they give evidence to you


and who gave you the evidence?


why do i need it? why would i not believe the Australia government when dealing with so many dead Australians ? kids shot from the sky, falling to ground with out there clothes left on them

fuck you


the Australian government never claimed the Russian army shot down MH17



yes they did .,,it why Europe agree to put sanctions on Russia....









no they didnt
you have no evidence


there lots of evidence....but you do the same thing as Russia does, you put up 5 other crazy ideas and say they could be possible ...as this is not a court a law, where we can question witness

Russia shot down MH17
sanctions went on Russia because of it

and here the best part
fucking sanctions are not coming off Russia for a very long time



Edited by adrtho: 26/2/2016 11:39:41 PM


yes i agre
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TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
adrtho wrote:
TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:
Iridium1010 wrote:
Heres the white paper.

http://www.defence.gov.au/whitepaper/Docs/2016-Defence-White-Paper.pdf

Makes mention of China, ukraine, IS etc.


interesting...

no mention of the violation of international law of Australians bombing a sovereign nation in Syria uninvited

Quote:
Events during the three years since the release of the last Defence White
Paper in 2013 demonstrate how rapidly Australia’s security environment
can change .The relationship between the United States and China
continues to evolve and will be fundamental to our future strategic
circumstances .Territorial disputes between claimants in the East China
and South China Seas have created uncertainty and tension in our region .
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea continues to be a source of
instability .State fragility has helped enable the rise of Daesh (also known
as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) terrorists in the Middle East,
incidents across the world have demonstrated the pervasive nature of the
threat of terrorism, and [size=8]a violation of international law led to the deaths of
Australians in the skies over Ukraine[/size] .Some matters that previous Defence
White Papers have described as longer-term issues, such as the impact
of military modernisation in our region, now fall to this White Paper to
respond to .



Russian Army shot down MH17 , killed all those people on there way to Australia


Russian Army? :lol:

Evidence?

So lets violate international law and bomb Syria. Makes perfect sense.
Much like invading Iraq because some Saudis attacked NYC. Makes perfect sense.

Edited by TheFactOfTheMatter: 26/2/2016 02:15:16 AM


we know the Russia army unit , know the names Russian solider ...

anyway, who died and made you king , you're a fucking nobody, why should they give evidence to you


and who gave you the evidence?


why do i need it? why would i not believe the Australia government when dealing with so many dead Australians ? kids shot from the sky, falling to ground with out there clothes left on them

fuck you


the Australian government never claimed the Russian army shot down MH17



yes they did .,,it why Europe agree to put sanctions on Russia....









no they didnt
you have no evidence


there lots of evidence....but you do the same thing as Russia does, you put up 5 other crazy ideas and say they could be possible ...as this is not a court a law, where we can question witness

Russia shot down MH17
sanctions went on Russia because of it

and here the best part
fucking sanctions are not coming off Russia for a very long time



Edited by adrtho: 26/2/2016 11:39:41 PM
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