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Watford feyenoord and Schalke are fine. Please god no al nassr, mooy needs to head to a decent Euro league, he along with rogic and Ryan look to be our stars of the future. We need them playing in Europe.

Would love to see him in the Bundesliga, even La Liga.

I think it was during the Socceroos match against Tajikistan that they mentioned a $2M bid for him had been refused by Melbourne City by an oil club last transfer window.

So would assume the same would happen if another oil club came calling. He doesn't seem like the type to go to the oil leagues.

Shanghai City

Schalke has a very packed midfield already. The thing going there would be multiple competitions.

They've already knocked back 2mil from Al Nassr.
I reckon the championship is what he needs. They say it's the league with the least time on the ball, and I think if he can improve his handling speed, in the course of a season, he could move to the Premier league.

I like the idea of that 2 Buli team that is going to be promoted. But obviously they'd need to be able to fork out enough and they'd need to see it as worth their while.

If Mooy went to Ingolstad it could go very badly or very well.

Mooy is the Australian Omar Abdulrahman.

Yep. Not the quickest, but has the sort of passing range you'd see in the EPL.

Pace is what is holding him back. He can tackle, pass, score goals and his set pieces are top notch.

He's better served in Italy or Spain. It's a tad slower than Germany and England, but still the Serie A and La Liga are world class leagues and very good technically. I can't see him slotting into a Villarreal or a Fiorentina, but I can see him at a Real Sociedad or Empoli. A mid table top flight club.

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I meant more because they're both excelling in their own countries but not being tested in the big leagues.

don't mind where he goes and long as where ever it is makes him a better footballer , not just a richer one

he doesnt move around very quickly, and i thought the same about pace.

but as ive been watching more closely ive seen him chase down some pretty pacey attackers. really surprised me how quick he actually covered ground.

That's interesting to note, I haven't really noticed him chasing down pacey attackers. He needs to be able to do that. You could see an overseas club wanting him for more of a deep lying playmaker role, where he can sit in front of the defence and pick passes, start attacks, those types of things. You also need to help out defensively and one part of it is closing down attackers.

I hope the scouts didn't watch last nights game though! :p

Head to China, Mooy.

Championship would be great.

Mostly so his handling speed can be tested.

we haven't had many (if any?) players go to the championship and improve over the last decade or so

a lot of players have lost their flair going there

Would be suited to Spain or Holland.

I think it's a somewhat different league to when Nick Carle went through. Gotta remember that Championship clubs go looking for dynamic players. Carle, Corica, Rogic ect... So there is a desire for flair there. I think teams are playing better football now than 5 years ago though.

Straight swap

fk england. i hope he plays on the continent.

I wouldn't normally say this, but I'm in support of a Watford move. The thing about him is he spent considerable time in the english system, he understands british football, and he has the strength to excel in that kind of environment. With his added little flashes of creative flair he has the potential to be a real impact player for a championship team.

I would have thought he left british football for good reason

Yeah because he wasn't good enough for it then.

But he might be now ;)

I think luongo has lost some of his flair since going there even though he came from a weaker league. This is despite luongo being a standout the last 2 months or so for his club

also i will never forget jedi's suicidal tackling when he played there! cost the roos a pen and a red card

No championship would not suit him at all. Bloody long ball league would ruin him i reckon. And he'd probably get chopped up.

His style would suit perfectly in La Liga. If that wasn't a possibility i'd be aiming for a move to the Serie A or Bundesliga. He's one of our top national players, he would be able to handle top flight football in a major league.

Edited by Davo1985: 5/4/2016 11:03:49 AM

Fiorentina actually play a style that would very much suit him tbh. But knowing the club it's unlikely they will take a real punt on Mooy without previous Euro experience. When they signed Brillante I was pretty shocked, but then seeing the loan deals, it wasn't surprising in the end. Mooy is however a much better player than Brillante is so who knows.

Championship is a dumb football league tbh. Won't learn anything there other than to run harder and perhaps become more physically tough. There are a dozen other leagues i'd want Mooy to be in before venturing into Championship. He's entering his prime, and what makes him stand out is his technique and ball passing vision (as well as his free kick ability).

If he were a speedy winger or a solid defender, i'd be all for him to move the Championship. His qualities don't suit championship whatsoever.

anyone think Pep Guardiola could look at Mooy? Toure will be gone in the summer maybe a few more? I think Aaron would be close to Delphs level...

Yes, coming to a league that values brains over brawn and technique over physical has done his game a world of good

lukerobinho

Meh, either way he wasn't good enough when he was in Europe.

you keep banging on with this bs and its just plain wrong

I'm going to put this out there when somebody says that you're NOT good enough to make it do you stop and give in or prove to themselves and the critics that they are good enough and can be successful, what Aaron Mooy has done is that he hasn't given in and look where its taken him with more to come.

To say he isnt good enough at the age of 19 to any kid most of the time they will just give up, the great sports stars are great for this reason they dont give when somebody says to them your not good enough they prove them wrong!

This is what holds us back the most compared to the rest of the players in the around, the mentality holds us back.

Delph is about 3 light years ahead of Mooy.

He was definitely offered a contract extension by Bolton but turned it down for first team football.

and then st mirren was trying to push him into a wing which he wanted no part of so he left

wsw wanted him to play as a defensive mid which he was not into

gets to mcfc, plays in his prefered position, fkn nails it.

Nails it? What next? The Pope is a Sunni Muslim?

He was in Europe for six years. Between the ages of 16 and 21. The ages at which the best players in the world, usually, start to emerge.

In that time, Mooy made ZERO appearances for Bolton Wanders, he played twenty-one times for St. Mirren and scored one goal.

What I said was that he wasn't good enough the first time. Clearly, this is the case. You could go so far as to say that means he failed the first time by any reasonable measure. Get defensive about this all you like. It was failure. I think so. I'd imagine most of the even-handed, knowledgeable and brainy contributors to this forum would agree that amounts to failure. Draupnir was of the opinion that that is failure.

It doesn't mean he'll fail this time round though ;)

Edited by quickflick: 11/4/2016 01:27:28 AM

Spot on. Tim Cahill is a perfect example of the right mentality. We need more of our footballers to be like. If you want to succeed in European football you can't expect it all to go smoothly. Craig Johnson has said people told him to hop back to Australia. What did he do? He just trained harder (and smarter) than ever before.

To illustrate the value in what you're saying. When I was in high school, we had a speaker address a few of us. He was a priest, I think, and had also coached the First VIII in rowing. There was a lad he coached who really wanted to be a rower in the First VIII. This priest said to the lad that unfortunately the lad wasn't good enough.

That lad's name is Nick Green. Fast forward some years and he was part of the Oarsome Foursome and won gold medals at the Olympics.

It just goes to show you can't let people decide on your dreams for you. You've got to do it yourself and commit everything. I think the priest was happy to have been proved wrong.

Really? I thought he was awful against West Brom on the weekend... gave the ball away many times... was poor at closing down and pressing his opponent...

What did you think?

Edited by jas88: 11/4/2016 02:29:47 PM

Just thinking about Mooy and his poor form over the last two weeks, I reckon a deal has already been done. He is nowhere near as hungry as he was before the last two games against Perth and Adelaide.

should go to new york city fc would learn even more off Pirlo and Lampard