Brisbane Roar in crisis mode as players not paid


Brisbane Roar in crisis mode as players not paid

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SWandP - 16 Aug 2016 7:56 AM
Waz - 16 Aug 2016 7:04 AM

LOL let's go with an analogy:

How many times should the bank allow you to make a late home repayment before kicking you out?  They do have a duty to their shareholders.
Truth is it's better for the bank and the lendee to keep them in the house and make the payments.  It costs less and the profit still comes home. Everybody wins.
Second best is to find a new buyer for the home and get the owner to bear the costs and problems of selling it on. Everybody wins but the original owner loses value in the asset.
Last choice is repossession and the bank having to find a new owner and wrap up the affairs of the original.  Bank loses money and the owner gets properly screwed. Losses all round.

Same with a football club franchise.  It would be even more costly than a house repo because some high voltage lathered up lawyers would be involved.
Throw in the problem that FIFA rules prevent FFA from holding more than one club at a time and you had them in the position of having to shut down one club last year if they moved.  Newcastle Jets would have been thrown in the bin and that would have been disastrous.

The only outcome here that promises a bright and golden future for football is that a softly softly approach with a big stick works.
You blokes should be absolutely over-joyed that FFA has acted sensibly and maturely.  Ask the people of Townsville, Gold Coast and Auckland what it's like to have it all taken away.

Too fukn precious.




Again spot on!
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scott21 - 16 Aug 2016 1:38 PM
paulc - 16 Aug 2016 12:46 PM

Im sorry , but you agree with a guy who wants to pay for my muffin and thinks that it is ok that I just put th receipt on my books. If you pay for me, I cant put anything in my books. :sick:

You are the ones promoting dodgy business. 
 

You dope.  I've saved you a shitload work and in book keeping and accounting fees because now you don't have 23 contracted players you need to pay fortnightly.

And what's this claiming an non-existent expense you are on about?

Have you ever run a business before?  
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SWandP - 16 Aug 2016 7:56 AM
Waz - 16 Aug 2016 7:04 AM

LOL let's go with an analogy:

How many times should the bank allow you to make a late home repayment before kicking you out?  They do have a duty to their shareholders.
Truth is it's better for the bank and the lendee to keep them in the house and make the payments.  It costs less and the profit still comes home. Everybody wins.
Second best is to find a new buyer for the home and get the owner to bear the costs and problems of selling it on. Everybody wins but the original owner loses value in the asset.
Last choice is repossession and the bank having to find a new owner and wrap up the affairs of the original.  Bank loses money and the owner gets properly screwed. Losses all round.

Same with a football club franchise.  It would be even more costly than a house repo because some high voltage lathered up lawyers would be involved.
Throw in the problem that FIFA rules prevent FFA from holding more than one club at a time and you had them in the position of having to shut down one club last year if they moved.  Newcastle Jets would have been thrown in the bin and that would have been disastrous.

The only outcome here that promises a bright and golden future for football is that a softly softly approach with a big stick works.
You blokes should be absolutely over-joyed that FFA has acted sensibly and maturely.  Ask the people of Townsville, Gold Coast and Auckland what it's like to have it all taken away.

Too fukn precious.




Was going to say the same thing, but you did a better job of it.

This year at least the FFA can take over the Roar if things drag on which they couldn't do last year, albeit with disastrous costs (the jets cost millions)
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RyanM - 16 Aug 2016 2:19 PM
SWandP - 16 Aug 2016 7:56 AM

Was going to say the same thing, but you did a better job of it.

This year at least the FFA can take over the Roar if things drag on which they couldn't do last year, albeit with disastrous costs (the jets cost millions)

By the time they take over Nix will have more fans than Roar. 
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Bye bye Brisbane! 



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RyanM - 16 Aug 2016 2:19 PM
SWandP - 16 Aug 2016 7:56 AM

Was going to say the same thing, but you did a better job of it.

This year at least the FFA can take over the Roar if things drag on which they couldn't do last year, albeit with disastrous costs (the jets cost millions)

Last time FFA took over Roar they made $10 million. Covered their costs at Newcastle with $5 million in their bank. Not bad of a disaster!


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paulc - 16 Aug 2016 2:25 PM
RyanM - 16 Aug 2016 2:19 PM

Last time FFA took over Roar they made $10 million. Covered their costs at Newcastle with $5 million in their bank. Not bad of a disaster!

Oh there you are! lol
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Aikhme - 16 Aug 2016 2:23 PM
Bye bye Brisbane! 



Stick to extra time, your posts are shit. 
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paulc - 16 Aug 2016 2:15 PM
Gazzza - 16 Aug 2016 2:09 PM

The next TV deal largely relies on Brisbane participating first and foremost. There's no chance they will not. Whether someone gets paid a day or a week late is largely irrelevant. Not nice, can do without and terrible for some but not critical to the TV deal.



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Aikhme - 16 Aug 2016 2:30 PM
paulc - 16 Aug 2016 2:15 PM



As others have said, your posts are shit.


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Gazzza - 16 Aug 2016 2:09 PM
Davo1985 - 16 Aug 2016 2:02 PM

And in the mean time before the next tv deal the club continues to be damaged beyond on repair, how is that going to help the next tv deal?

If the club is able to field players on game day then Fox Sports is happy.

The same excuses could have been made last year, yet ratings for Brisbane games weren't greatly affected by this. Attendances and memberships on the other hand were affected. Neither of which have a real influence on the next broadcast deal. Yu just have to look at some NRL clubs to tell you that. It's the ratings that matter when it comes to tv deals obviously, and no evidence of Brisbane Roar games spiraling downwards in the tv department. Perhaps maybe an increase due to some fans staying home to watch rather than at the game itself.

Point im making is that the FFA will do whatever is possible to keep Bakries in paying the bills even if they pay late on occasion. Once the new deal is in and the FFA is more cashed up they will be in a much better position to take over with minimal risk. 
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All we need is to replace this EFFNIK Dutch club with Brisbane Strikers. :)
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Aikhme - 16 Aug 2016 2:36 PM
All we need is to replace this EFFNIK Dutch club with Brisbane Strikers. :)

They would be bankrupt before years end if Strikers got in.

We need serious backing for clubs moving forward. Not corner store operations that most ex NSL clubs run on.
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Toughlove - 16 Aug 2016 2:19 PM
scott21 - 16 Aug 2016 1:38 PM

You dope.  I've saved you a shitload work and in book keeping and accounting fees because now you don't have 23 contracted players you need to pay fortnightly.

And what's this claiming an non-existent expense you are on about?

Have you ever run a business before?  

:hehe:

wot?

So who do the players have contracts with?
They would have to have them with the FFA under what you just said Dope. Hey Dope you are not dope. You said before that they would still be contracted with the clubs dope. 

Like I said, you are anti footbal if you think the FFA should contract and pay the players. What you are suggesting - players having contracts with clubs but being paid directly from the FFA doesnt make sense. 


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Davo1985 - 16 Aug 2016 2:46 PM
Aikhme - 16 Aug 2016 2:36 PM

They would be bankrupt before years end if Strikers got in.

We need serious backing for clubs moving forward. Not corner store operations that most ex NSL clubs run on.

Serious backing which don't pay their bills? 
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Davo1985 - 16 Aug 2016 2:46 PM
Aikhme - 16 Aug 2016 2:36 PM

They would be bankrupt before years end if Strikers got in.

We need serious backing for clubs moving forward. Not corner store operations that most ex NSL clubs run on.

fmd have you started to paraphrase paulc?
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scott21 - 16 Aug 2016 2:51 PM
Davo1985 - 16 Aug 2016 2:46 PM

fmd have you started to paraphrase paulc?

The truth must hurt you scottyboy.



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why does your team always try to insult our team with names?

You pro FFA controlling everything guys are mean. 
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What kind of club is it when it is virtually owned by the FFA? 
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scott21 - 16 Aug 2016 2:51 PM
Davo1985 - 16 Aug 2016 2:46 PM

fmd have you started to paraphrase paulc?

No just speaking more sense than some on here that would be happy to have a tuck shop team in the top flight of our comp as if its the NPL..

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Davo1985 - 16 Aug 2016 3:35 PM
scott21 - 16 Aug 2016 2:51 PM

No just speaking more sense than some on here that would be happy to have a tuck shop team in the top flight of our comp as if its the NPL..

Isn't Brisbane owned by an Indonesian Bakery! lol
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Aikhme - 16 Aug 2016 3:41 PM
Davo1985 - 16 Aug 2016 3:35 PM

Isn't Brisbane owned by an Indonesian Bakery! lol

Wow you actually laughed at your own shit joke. 
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WSF - 16 Aug 2016 3:44 PM
Aikhme - 16 Aug 2016 3:41 PM

Wow you actually laughed at your own shit joke. 

Stick to your Kebabs mate. 

I can't help your butthurst for getting rolled in Adelaide. 

You can try this if it will help.



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Aikhme - 16 Aug 2016 3:45 PM
WSF - 16 Aug 2016 3:44 PM

Stick to your Kebabs mate. 

I can't help your butthurst for getting rolled in Adelaide. 

You can try this if it will help.



You actually think your pic is funny don't you, oh you really are pathetic. I'm surprised you even still post on here after leaving the Adelaide United Bandwagon, we can meet up if you want or will you chicken out like last time?
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WSF - 16 Aug 2016 3:54 PM
Aikhme - 16 Aug 2016 3:45 PM

You actually think your pic is funny don't you, oh you really are pathetic. I'm surprised you even still post on here after leaving the Adelaide United Bandwagon, we can meet up if you want or will you chicken out like last time?

Just trying to help you with your little problem buddy. Always trying to help. 

I'm a West Adelaide supporter through thick and thin buddy and have a history with this club as a player. I haven't left AUFC but I am not parochial about it and that is quite fair enough. It was fantastic how they beat WSW at the final. 

WSW were never really in it from start to finish. Clearly inferior! 
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Davo1985 - 16 Aug 2016 3:35 PM
scott21 - 16 Aug 2016 2:51 PM

No just speaking more sense than some on here that would be happy to have a tuck shop team in the top flight of our comp as if its the NPL..

Your elitest attitude is what is wrong with Australian football. 

At what point does it become about supporting Sydney FC first?
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scott21 - 16 Aug 2016 4:02 PM
Davo1985 - 16 Aug 2016 3:35 PM

Your elitest attitude is what is wrong with Australian football. 

At what point does it become about supporting Sydney FC first?

Bloody agree 100%

The quicker we get back to the grassroots and have an open slather, the better.

The reason why they don't want it is because they are worried. It's only a matter of time. If there are no improvements, Foxtell will give up and then the HAL will be in dire trouble.

Foxtell isn't doing that great either with Netflix on the scene. Soon mate, there will be huge changes and many people here are not gonna like it. 
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FFA starts league
FFA sells franchise license
FFA not happy
FFA take back license
FFA sell license
FFA not happy

Fans here "FFA should pay the players directly"

Talk about brainwashed.
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