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			    +x+x+x+x+x+x+x[quote]@melbourne_terrace The simple reason they are moving games is that nobody in Western Sydney gives a shit about AFL, or if they did they'd already follow the swans. A lot of AFL fans in Victoria just don't get that there is zero interest in AFL in Western Sydney. Even the Swans weren't that popular for their first 15 years in Sydney, and only got really popular due to an unusual set of circumstances in Rugby League in the 90s.  Super League, team mergers, scandals, moving games to bigger stadiums and the attempt to kick out Souths all caused huge disenchantment with league. My father was a rugby league fan but when his team (Wests Magpies) merged with the Balmain tigers he never went to another NRL game. At the same time this was going on, the Swans made the 1996 grand final and started getting good. Some of the disenchanted middle classes switched to AFL and never went back to league. If not for those factors I don't think the Swans would be as popular as they are today. At the end of Wanderers first season polling of the market showed that 10.2% of the 2m population in Western Sydney supported the Wanderers while for GWS despite a multi year marketing exercise and having a years start only 1.6% supported them.That's interesting, because going by attendances and TV ratings, the ratio looks closer to 1.5:1, and that is being extremely generous to the Wanderers. If we go by sponsorship revenue, the Giants would be quadruple what the Wanderers make. It's strange that their sponsorship revenue is quadruple that of the Wanderers, but according to you, the Wanderers are meant to have six times the support. Those big corporations must be stupid. Strange days indeed.You're actually more retarded than I thought. Do you honestly think corps that sponsor a team like GWS do it because they are focused upon the geographic area they represent and the 5,000 attendees at the football match? If they play an away game in Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth do you think they peel the sponsor logos off their shirts? Are you seriously that stupid?If that were the case all teams in the league would have simalar sponsorship deals. And no club would struggle to find a sponsor. (Unless there is less than 10 companies that want to sponsor the HAL) But the larger the club's fan base, the larger the sponsorship deal they can achieve. It is the same across every code and in every country.yes, sponsorship revenue is an indicator of the reach of a sports team. So you at least admit it isn't indicative of how popular GWS is in western sydney relative to other teams/codes. I have no idea who sponsors them but can we assume they are companies that want to advertise to the country as opposed to caring how popular the team itself is in west sydney? Sometimes I do worry you believe the stuff you say Well, it's no secret that about one-third of the Giants' 20,000 strong membership comes from outside of greater Western Sydney: ![[IMG]](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170529/a371dbe7cc11efaf03b4606929af03c4.jpg)                 
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x@pippinu Just to clarify your point from before - I wasn't trying to deny that the Swans have a strong fan base now who go to games and watch on TV. They do, of course. I even go to a few games myself.  My argument was that they only got as big as they are now due to a huge assist by some one-off extraordinary factors that won't be repeated again.  It took 15 years, a grand finals appearance AND the complete fracturing of Rugby League before people jumped on The Swans in big numbers.  If I look at GWS, they have an even harder job. Not only will thise one-off factors not repeat themselves, the demographics of Western Sydney are tougher. Anyone in Western Sydney who loves AFL wasn't sitting around waiting for a team - they are already on the Swans.  The only way it will grow is to convert people who follow other sports. That is not going well.  You only need to visit any school. I'm a teacher and I'll tell you this - whenever the Auskick guys come out to schools, the kids do participate and have fun. But literally the moment those guys leave, the kids go straight back to the PE staff room and grab the round balls and rugby league balls. They are simply not interested at all.  If there was another big crack up in league, the major beneficiary would not be AFL. It would be either Football or (for those who still want contact sport) Rugby Union.  I suspect that the AFL could keep doing this for the next 20 years and nothing would change. Oh well they can keep sinking their dough in the big black hole. What was it, $16m or so mill that the AFL poured in the Giants last year?                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    @pippinu
 Just to clarify your point from before - I wasn't trying to deny that the Swans have a strong fan base now who go to games and watch on TV. They do, of course. I even go to a few games myself.
 
 My argument was that they only got as big as they are now due to a huge assist by some one-off extraordinary factors that won't be repeated again.
 
 It took 15 years, a grand finals appearance AND the complete fracturing of Rugby League before people jumped on The Swans in big numbers.
 
 If I look at GWS, they have an even harder job. Not only will thise one-off factors not repeat themselves, the demographics of Western Sydney are tougher. Anyone in Western Sydney who loves AFL wasn't sitting around waiting for a team - they are already on the Swans.
 
 The only way it will grow is to convert people who follow other sports. That is not going well.
 
 You only need to visit any school. I'm a teacher and I'll tell you this - whenever the Auskick guys come out to schools, the kids do participate and have fun. But literally the moment those guys leave, the kids go straight back to the PE staff room and grab the round balls and rugby league balls. They are simply not interested at all.
 
 If there was another big crack up in league, the major beneficiary would not be AFL. It would be either Football or (for those who still want contact sport) Rugby Union.
 
 I suspect that the AFL could keep doing this for the next 20 years and nothing would change.
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+x+x+x+x+x[quote]@melbourne_terrace The simple reason they are moving games is that nobody in Western Sydney gives a shit about AFL, or if they did they'd already follow the swans. A lot of AFL fans in Victoria just don't get that there is zero interest in AFL in Western Sydney. Even the Swans weren't that popular for their first 15 years in Sydney, and only got really popular due to an unusual set of circumstances in Rugby League in the 90s.  Super League, team mergers, scandals, moving games to bigger stadiums and the attempt to kick out Souths all caused huge disenchantment with league. My father was a rugby league fan but when his team (Wests Magpies) merged with the Balmain tigers he never went to another NRL game. At the same time this was going on, the Swans made the 1996 grand final and started getting good. Some of the disenchanted middle classes switched to AFL and never went back to league. If not for those factors I don't think the Swans would be as popular as they are today. At the end of Wanderers first season polling of the market showed that 10.2% of the 2m population in Western Sydney supported the Wanderers while for GWS despite a multi year marketing exercise and having a years start only 1.6% supported them.That's interesting, because going by attendances and TV ratings, the ratio looks closer to 1.5:1, and that is being extremely generous to the Wanderers. If we go by sponsorship revenue, the Giants would be quadruple what the Wanderers make. It's strange that their sponsorship revenue is quadruple that of the Wanderers, but according to you, the Wanderers are meant to have six times the support. Those big corporations must be stupid. Strange days indeed.You're actually more retarded than I thought. Do you honestly think corps that sponsor a team like GWS do it because they are focused upon the geographic area they represent and the 5,000 attendees at the football match? If they play an away game in Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth do you think they peel the sponsor logos off their shirts? Are you seriously that stupid?If that were the case all teams in the league would have simalar sponsorship deals. And no club would struggle to find a sponsor. (Unless there is less than 10 companies that want to sponsor the HAL) But the larger the club's fan base, the larger the sponsorship deal they can achieve. It is the same across every code and in every country.yes, sponsorship revenue is an indicator of the reach of a sports team. So you at least admit it isn't indicative of how popular GWS is in western sydney relative to other teams/codes. I have no idea who sponsors them but can we assume they are companies that want to advertise to the country as opposed to caring how popular the team itself is in west sydney? Sometimes I do worry you believe the stuff you say                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+x+x+x+x@melbourne_terrace The simple reason they are moving games is that nobody in Western Sydney gives a shit about AFL, or if they did they'd already follow the swans. A lot of AFL fans in Victoria just don't get that there is zero interest in AFL in Western Sydney. Even the Swans weren't that popular for their first 15 years in Sydney, and only got really popular due to an unusual set of circumstances in Rugby League in the 90s.  Super League, team mergers, scandals, moving games to bigger stadiums and the attempt to kick out Souths all caused huge disenchantment with league. My father was a rugby league fan but when his team (Wests Magpies) merged with the Balmain tigers he never went to another NRL game. At the same time this was going on, the Swans made the 1996 grand final and started getting good. Some of the disenchanted middle classes switched to AFL and never went back to league. If not for those factors I don't think the Swans would be as popular as they are today.  At the end of Wanderers first season polling of the market showed that 10.2% of the 2m population in Western Sydney supported the Wanderers while for GWS despite a multi year marketing exercise and having a years start only 1.6% supported them. That's interesting, because going by attendances and TV ratings, the ratio looks closer to 1.5:1, and that is being extremely generous to the Wanderers. If we go by sponsorship revenue, the Giants would be quadruple what the Wanderers make. It's strange that their sponsorship revenue is quadruple that of the Wanderers, but according to you, the Wanderers are meant to have six times the support. Those big corporations must be stupid. Strange days indeed. You're actually more retarded than I thought. Do you honestly think corps that sponsor a team like GWS do it because they are focused upon the geographic area they represent and the 5,000 attendees at the football match? If they play an away game in Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth do you think they peel the sponsor logos off their shirts? Are you seriously that stupid? If that were the case all teams in the league would have simalar sponsorship deals. And no club would struggle to find a sponsor. (Unless there is less than 10 companies that want to sponsor the HAL) But the larger the club's fan base, the larger the sponsorship deal they can achieve. It is the same across every code and in every country. Unless the coprorations doing the sponsoring are complete fools, then yes, sponsorship revenue is an indicator of the reach of a sports team. Unless it's the usual conspiracy theories (the media favour one sport unfairly, gee whiz, why don't the media favour us, woe is us, etc, etc)                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+x+x@melbourne_terrace The simple reason they are moving games is that nobody in Western Sydney gives a shit about AFL, or if they did they'd already follow the swans. A lot of AFL fans in Victoria just don't get that there is zero interest in AFL in Western Sydney. Even the Swans weren't that popular for their first 15 years in Sydney, and only got really popular due to an unusual set of circumstances in Rugby League in the 90s.  Super League, team mergers, scandals, moving games to bigger stadiums and the attempt to kick out Souths all caused huge disenchantment with league. My father was a rugby league fan but when his team (Wests Magpies) merged with the Balmain tigers he never went to another NRL game. At the same time this was going on, the Swans made the 1996 grand final and started getting good. Some of the disenchanted middle classes switched to AFL and never went back to league. If not for those factors I don't think the Swans would be as popular as they are today.  At the end of Wanderers first season polling of the market showed that 10.2% of the 2m population in Western Sydney supported the Wanderers while for GWS despite a multi year marketing exercise and having a years start only 1.6% supported them. That's interesting, because going by attendances and TV ratings, the ratio looks closer to 1.5:1, and that is being extremely generous to the Wanderers. If we go by sponsorship revenue, the Giants would be quadruple what the Wanderers make. It's strange that their sponsorship revenue is quadruple that of the Wanderers, but according to you, the Wanderers are meant to have six times the support. Those big corporations must be stupid. Strange days indeed. AFL HQ sending sponsors the Giants way is not something you measure a clubs fanbase on.  GWS membership and merch revenue is about 1.3m, that is the smaller than any team in the Aleague. That shows you how small the Giants are in these parts. Only an AFL flog would compare Football in western sydney to the AFL in western sydney.                 
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+x+x+x@melbourne_terrace The simple reason they are moving games is that nobody in Western Sydney gives a shit about AFL, or if they did they'd already follow the swans. A lot of AFL fans in Victoria just don't get that there is zero interest in AFL in Western Sydney. Even the Swans weren't that popular for their first 15 years in Sydney, and only got really popular due to an unusual set of circumstances in Rugby League in the 90s.  Super League, team mergers, scandals, moving games to bigger stadiums and the attempt to kick out Souths all caused huge disenchantment with league. My father was a rugby league fan but when his team (Wests Magpies) merged with the Balmain tigers he never went to another NRL game. At the same time this was going on, the Swans made the 1996 grand final and started getting good. Some of the disenchanted middle classes switched to AFL and never went back to league. If not for those factors I don't think the Swans would be as popular as they are today.  At the end of Wanderers first season polling of the market showed that 10.2% of the 2m population in Western Sydney supported the Wanderers while for GWS despite a multi year marketing exercise and having a years start only 1.6% supported them. That's interesting, because going by attendances and TV ratings, the ratio looks closer to 1.5:1, and that is being extremely generous to the Wanderers. If we go by sponsorship revenue, the Giants would be quadruple what the Wanderers make. It's strange that their sponsorship revenue is quadruple that of the Wanderers, but according to you, the Wanderers are meant to have six times the support. Those big corporations must be stupid. Strange days indeed. You're actually more retarded than I thought. Do you honestly think corps that sponsor a team like GWS do it because they are focused upon the geographic area they represent and the 5,000 attendees at the football match? If they play an away game in Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth do you think they peel the sponsor logos off their shirts? Are you seriously that stupid? If that were the case all teams in the league would have simalar sponsorship deals. And no club would struggle to find a sponsor. (Unless there is less than 10 companies that want to sponsor the HAL) But the larger the club's fan base, the larger the sponsorship deal they can achieve. It is the same across every code and in every country.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+x+x+x@melbourne_terrace The simple reason they are moving games is that nobody in Western Sydney gives a shit about AFL, or if they did they'd already follow the swans. A lot of AFL fans in Victoria just don't get that there is zero interest in AFL in Western Sydney. Even the Swans weren't that popular for their first 15 years in Sydney, and only got really popular due to an unusual set of circumstances in Rugby League in the 90s.  Super League, team mergers, scandals, moving games to bigger stadiums and the attempt to kick out Souths all caused huge disenchantment with league. My father was a rugby league fan but when his team (Wests Magpies) merged with the Balmain tigers he never went to another NRL game. At the same time this was going on, the Swans made the 1996 grand final and started getting good. Some of the disenchanted middle classes switched to AFL and never went back to league. If not for those factors I don't think the Swans would be as popular as they are today.  At the end of Wanderers first season polling of the market showed that 10.2% of the 2m population in Western Sydney supported the Wanderers while for GWS despite a multi year marketing exercise and having a years start only 1.6% supported them. That's interesting, because going by attendances and TV ratings, the ratio looks closer to 1.5:1, and that is being extremely generous to the Wanderers. If we go by sponsorship revenue, the Giants would be quadruple what the Wanderers make. It's strange that their sponsorship revenue is quadruple that of the Wanderers, but according to you, the Wanderers are meant to have six times the support. Those big corporations must be stupid. Strange days indeed. You're actually more retarded than I thought. Do you honestly think corps that sponsor a team like GWS do it because they are focused upon the geographic area they represent and the 5,000 attendees at the football match? If they play an away game in Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth do you think they peel the sponsor logos off their shirts? Are you seriously that stupid? I have said before the 'i' in his avatar stands for 'idiot'                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+x+x@melbourne_terrace The simple reason they are moving games is that nobody in Western Sydney gives a shit about AFL, or if they did they'd already follow the swans. A lot of AFL fans in Victoria just don't get that there is zero interest in AFL in Western Sydney. Even the Swans weren't that popular for their first 15 years in Sydney, and only got really popular due to an unusual set of circumstances in Rugby League in the 90s.  Super League, team mergers, scandals, moving games to bigger stadiums and the attempt to kick out Souths all caused huge disenchantment with league. My father was a rugby league fan but when his team (Wests Magpies) merged with the Balmain tigers he never went to another NRL game. At the same time this was going on, the Swans made the 1996 grand final and started getting good. Some of the disenchanted middle classes switched to AFL and never went back to league. If not for those factors I don't think the Swans would be as popular as they are today.  At the end of Wanderers first season polling of the market showed that 10.2% of the 2m population in Western Sydney supported the Wanderers while for GWS despite a multi year marketing exercise and having a years start only 1.6% supported them. That's interesting, because going by attendances and TV ratings, the ratio looks closer to 1.5:1, and that is being extremely generous to the Wanderers. If we go by sponsorship revenue, the Giants would be quadruple what the Wanderers make. It's strange that their sponsorship revenue is quadruple that of the Wanderers, but according to you, the Wanderers are meant to have six times the support. Those big corporations must be stupid. Strange days indeed. You're actually more retarded than I thought. Do you honestly think corps that sponsor a team like GWS do it because they are focused upon the geographic area they represent and the 5,000 attendees at the football match? If they play an away game in Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth do you think they peel the sponsor logos off their shirts? Are you seriously that stupid?                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +xThe AFL's relentless agendato strangle the wogball out of existence continues....both off the pitch through media control, history of stadia boycotts at professional level and now attack footballs greatest strength coommunity football . Its all about perception...expect the usual media cheersquad to fall over themesleves talking 'up' the new comp.....expect articles , pieces. tv spots excited kids taking up new 'exciting' game..,..inevitably with 'we used to play sockah but now ' comment all to enhance 'Brand AFLofcourse.    Zero context and zero mention of actual facts on the ground..ie Ray Morgan research confirming footballs dominance as no1 participation ..which has ofcourse been totally buried by msm. For classic shameless AFL paid PR...just watch 'The Link' on ABC podcast.    The funniest part..amongst the staged feel good AFL bs one of the interviewed parents daughter is smiling wearing anArsenal jersey ! It'll never happen simply because Australian media  will be swamped by overseas stuff, Not only are they streets ahead in digital communication, their TV shows and media companies are just way too far ahead and they're markets are much bigger, so Australian media with it's parochial little game will be eaten up. AFL may be used as a laughing stock where it shows the game's Diversity CEO brawling with the opposition to lose his earner, get arrested by Police and generally make the game look as stupid and foolish as it is. He was, truly, Aussie-rules media's worst advertisement and Australian media's bad nightmare. The fact that this was given air time tells me that the love affair is getting thin and worn out. Just watching the Concacaf in USA today is telling me that  parochial 1 country sports are up against it and have to fight hard and unfortunately they're crap.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+xI was reading the other day that Victoria is far more violent than NSW according to physical assault and break and enter statistics.   I wonder if the violent nature of AFL and it's total absorption into the Victorian culture is partly responsible?  3 king hits in one week ...two at  senior AFL level and one at amateur involving one of their senior managers and now possible police involvement.  Not that the paid msm has made any connection... Add to that Archer former North player who had two punch ups at games, one involved him jumping the fence to go an umpire                 
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +xWhat the fuck, it's funny that they think this will make the game take off in China. It doesnt matter....for the AFL  Thought Police its all about perception for the average punter. .  With its media mates The recent coverage of the powers game china game was classic shameless paid pr exercise with wall to wall feelgood pr   by its murdoch media sugar daddy including the 'Oz'.    Some 4 pages!  reading it  you would believe the Alf was the ever australian sporting team that had had any contact in asia  and china.   Zero mention of the dreaded sockah via Asian cup/Asian champsleague etc  no surprise but not even mention Rugby sevens in hong kong etc                 
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +xI was reading the other day that Victoria is far more violent than NSW according to physical assault and break and enter statistics.   I wonder if the violent nature of AFL and it's total absorption into the Victorian culture is partly responsible?  3 king hits in one week ...two at  senior AFL level and one at amateur involving one of their senior managers and now possible police involvement.  Not that the paid msm has made any connection...                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    The AFL's relentless agendato strangle the wogball out of existence continues....both off the pitch through media control, history of stadia boycotts at professional level and now attack footballs greatest strength coommunity football .
 Its all about perception...expect the usual media cheersquad to fall over themesleves talking 'up' the new comp.....expect articles , pieces. tv spots excited kids taking up new 'exciting' game..,..inevitably with 'we used to play sockah but now ' comment all to enhance 'Brand AFLofcourse.    Zero context and zero mention of actual facts on the ground..ie Ray Morgan research confirming footballs dominance as no1 participation ..which has ofcourse been totally buried by msm.
 
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			    @ Eldar 
 I think you'll find the increased violence in Victoria is actually due to the Sok-ha and a rather unhealthy addiction to Pepper Pig !! Thank god they've got AFL to distract them from all the Sok-ha thugs out on regular pork-induced crime sprees .... I'm surprised our resident AFL fan hasn't already pointed this out, crime statistics won't improve until the Sok-ha is eradicated, although they'll probably keep Pepper Pig because it's useful for ratings comparisons ?!?
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    I was reading the other day that Victoria is far more violent than NSW according to physical assault and break and enter statistics.   I wonder if the violent nature of AFL and it's total absorption into the Victorian culture is partly responsible?                 
			    				
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			    AFL too violent on and off the field for the Chinese. AFLX has no chance.
 
 Violent clash: Crowd brawl halts Ainsworth Reserve footy match Genevieve Alison, Herald Sun A LOCAL football match in the western suburbs has descended into violence after a brawl between spectators halted the game as police were called in.Police were called to the match between the Wyndham Suns and Sunshine Heights at Ainsworth Reserve around 4pm on Saturday after reports a melee had erupted.A Victoria Police spokesman said the incident was over by the time they arrived.“Police have not received any reports of assault at this stage,” a spokesman said.Footy fans took to social media to vent their frustration at yet another “ugly” outbreak of violence involving clubs from the Western Regions Football League.WERE YOU THERE? LET US KNOW: news@heraldsun.com.au “It’s getting beyond a joke with the amount fights that are happening in the lower divisions especially behind the fence,” one member posted to the Big Footy online forum.“I’m all for a bit of banter over the fence but it seems in this comp especially that it is getting out of control with the amount of crowd incidents that has occurred,” read another comment.It is the latest in a series of violent episodes at suburban football games which fans fear is tarnishing the game.In September last year, police were called in to investigate when more than 150 spectators were kicked, punched and racially abused at a football match in Tarneit.The Western Region Football League has not responded to requests by the Herald Sun  for comment.genevieve.alison@news.com.au In a resort somewhere                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+x+x+xAFLX is just an admission that they can no longer find enough players at the sub-elite level for entire teams. This is the future of their game in regional Victoria.  As someone from country Victoria believe me there's still plenty of players and plenty of money to pay them. And even if the players were shit, if there were no better players they'd still get paid a top rate.  2k a year. Top dollar.  Nope, i know guys getting several hundred up to a 1k a week  Thats definitely the vast majority. If it was the elite competition of fumball i think 2k would be huge but possible.                 
			    				
			                    
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+x+xAFLX is just an admission that they can no longer find enough players at the sub-elite level for entire teams. This is the future of their game in regional Victoria.  As someone from country Victoria believe me there's still plenty of players and plenty of money to pay them. And even if the players were shit, if there were no better players they'd still get paid a top rate.  2k a year. Top dollar.  Nope, i know guys getting several hundred up to a 1k a week                 
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| scubaroo 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    Weve got footgolf in geelong. It goes alright but a pain if you want to play on weekends as they only open Sunday to friday And with everyone playing football on a Sunday it makes it hard to get a game in.                 
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| Gyfox 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    With AFLx set to take over our pitches we might have to adopt this new game to find a place to play.  ;)http://www.macarthuradvertiser.com.au/story/4775428/free-launch-of-footgolf/?cs=1563               
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| paladisious 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    +x+xAFLX is just an admission that they can no longer find enough players at the sub-elite level for entire teams. This is the future of their game in regional Victoria.  As someone from country Victoria believe me there's still plenty of players and plenty of money to pay them. And even if the players were shit, if there were no better players they'd still get paid a top rate.  Closed market. Their luck.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| TheSelectFew 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    +x+xAFLX is just an admission that they can no longer find enough players at the sub-elite level for entire teams. This is the future of their game in regional Victoria.  As someone from country Victoria believe me there's still plenty of players and plenty of money to pay them. And even if the players were shit, if there were no better players they'd still get paid a top rate.  2k a year. Top dollar.                 
			    				
			                    
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| Langan 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    +xAFLX is just an admission that they can no longer find enough players at the sub-elite level for entire teams. This is the future of their game in regional Victoria.  As someone from country Victoria believe me there's still plenty of players and plenty of money to pay them. And even if the players were shit, if there were no better players they'd still get paid a top rate.                 
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    AFLX is just an admission that they can no longer find enough players at the sub-elite level for entire teams. This is the future of their game in regional Victoria.                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| Langan 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    I'm in Ireland at the moment and over here they've been playing afl x for years.                 
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| TheSelectFew 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    Yawn. Wellington fail. China fail. South Africa fail. China 2.0 will be a fail.                
			                   
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    PETER ROLFE, Herald SunTHE expansion of AFL into overseas markets could be fuelled by a modified version of the game played at sub-elite level.The AFL this year played its first match for premiership points in China and has previously staged exhibition games in India, Dubai, London and Los Angeles. But it hopes to introduce more foreign fans to the game through its AFLX concept, which has been billed the Aussie rules version of Twenty20 cricket. AFL general counsel and game development general manager Andrew Dillon said the shortened version of the game was still in an “early development phase”. “We have not yet developed any plans and expectations about where it may go in the future,” he said. “At this time, we are very much still trialling the game and seeing how it could operate.’’ But he revealed the AFL had hopes for the new concept beyond Australian shores. RADICAL NEW CONCEPT AFLX SET TO BE LAUNCHED ON PRE-FINALS BYE WEEKEND  An exclusive trial of a new version of AFL football played on soccer pitch between two VFL teams. Picture: Supplied “Our focus for the game is for it to be played at junior and community level, and we believe it can certainly be played in both Australia and overseas,’’ he said. “The space required for the size of our normal AFL games is a big challenge for many locations for us, particularly in developing the game overseas. “AFLX offers us the chance to play a shortened version of the sport overseas with less space required.’’ AFLX matches are played on soccer pitches, with fewer players than a normal game and reduced playing time. An AFLX trial between VFL teams Port Melbourne and Coburg in Albert Park in March was played over four 10-minute quarters and tested both eight-a-side and seven-a-side squads. Previous trials have featured seven players a side. Port Adelaide chairman David Koch has backed the model to help the AFL push into China. With the concept expected to expand in the future, Mr Dillon said its focus was likely to be below elite level, largely within communities and for junior players as an introduction to the sport. “The aim for the game is for it to be free-flowing and high-scoring, and showcase the spectacular elements of our game such as precision kicking and high-marking,’’ he said. “The game also requires tackling and full body-contact, so there is also the opportunity for people to push towards elite athletic requirements to play the game well.’’
 AFLX could expand Aussie Rules footprint into China and overseas | Herald Sun
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Spends his 24/7 trolling a football forum with an obvious inferiority complex tied to fumble ball. Strange man indeed. 
 
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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