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+x+x+x+xEuropeans can't catch a ball. It's true that in the dozen or so countries which have a footy league, the standard is quite low. Ground breaking. Please share more of your pearls. Certainly I see it as my task to enlighten the great unwashed on this forum, and for the most part, I have been quite successful and received the plaudits I most thoroughly deserve. Delusional as always Mr Tardball.
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Mister Football
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+x+x+xEuropeans can't catch a ball. It's true that in the dozen or so countries which have a footy league, the standard is quite low. Ground breaking. Please share more of your pearls. Certainly I see it as my task to enlighten the great unwashed on this forum, and for the most part, I have been quite successful and received the plaudits I most thoroughly deserve.
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+x+xEuropeans can't catch a ball. It's true that in the dozen or so countries which have a footy league, the standard is quite low. Ground breaking. Please share more of your pearls.
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Mister Football
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+x+x+xThe facts are very disturbing for AFL, on the ground here in Victoria, i can tell you I have been going to junior football all season with my kids and have been to a few dual code facilities, on every single occasion, the football pitches had 6-10 games at any time. The 3 AFL ovals were empty, no one. I was in a coastal town St Leonards which would have no more than 5000 residents, the local AFL ground had 4 games of football on it and the facts are I have not seen 1 AFL game around Melbourne all year. So all this cheerleading from all forms of media here in Victoria, AFL is in big trouble in its heartland , they tell us Girls are taking the game up in their droves, I have not seen or know anyone who has seen them play the sport. So this AFL x rubbish is just another smoke screen from the AFL , which the media cheerleaders have run with to continue the myth that AFL is some unstoppable beast. Its even better up here in Sydney. I have NEVER seen an AFL junior game. We don't even see AFL posts up on any grounds at all. Don't even get me on the state of the game in Western Sydney. There is downright hatred for it. I have seen AFL junior games in Sydney. They played on the field opposite us and rugby league played on the field further up. Growing up AFL was the sport that did all the funny looking stretches and odd drills. Both had only one or two teams that would play each week. When training or warming up we were not allowed to a blade of grass on either field while they freely trampled over ours. The rugby league team is now dead has been incorporated into the club I played for and the process seems to be repeating with the rugby league club that plays on the ground opposite to my current club. The AFL team somehow seems to struggle on so there is a big well grassed area that you can fit about four football pitches on that gets about 3-4 hours of use every two weeks at most. The football clubs have been dreaming of taking over it for the 20 years since I started playing. While I enjoy the further dominance that football is gaining in the area, I think that it is sad that the diversity of games that were played on the same grounds is dying off. Even though I didn't really understand what was going on on the field back in the other two sports then I enjoyed watching three sports being played by my age group every weekend. At my current club we used to be able to play our game then walk up to the other field and join a large crowd to watch players who'd just been dropped from the Shark's squad for the week playing for their local club side. That was dead this year. If you are seeking diversity, you should applaud the AFL's attempts to expand its footprint into NSW.
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+xEuropeans can't catch a ball. It's true that in the dozen or so countries which have a footy league, the standard is quite low.
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+x+xThe facts are very disturbing for AFL, on the ground here in Victoria, i can tell you I have been going to junior football all season with my kids and have been to a few dual code facilities, on every single occasion, the football pitches had 6-10 games at any time. The 3 AFL ovals were empty, no one. I was in a coastal town St Leonards which would have no more than 5000 residents, the local AFL ground had 4 games of football on it and the facts are I have not seen 1 AFL game around Melbourne all year. So all this cheerleading from all forms of media here in Victoria, AFL is in big trouble in its heartland , they tell us Girls are taking the game up in their droves, I have not seen or know anyone who has seen them play the sport. So this AFL x rubbish is just another smoke screen from the AFL , which the media cheerleaders have run with to continue the myth that AFL is some unstoppable beast. Its even better up here in Sydney. I have NEVER seen an AFL junior game. We don't even see AFL posts up on any grounds at all. Don't even get me on the state of the game in Western Sydney. There is downright hatred for it. I have seen AFL junior games in Sydney. They played on the field opposite us and rugby league played on the field further up. Growing up AFL was the sport that did all the funny looking stretches and odd drills. Both had only one or two teams that would play each week. When training or warming up we were not allowed to a blade of grass on either field while they freely trampled over ours. The rugby league team is now dead has been incorporated into the club I played for and the process seems to be repeating with the rugby league club that plays on the ground opposite to my current club. The AFL team somehow seems to struggle on so there is a big well grassed area that you can fit about four football pitches on that gets about 3-4 hours of use every two weeks at most. The football clubs have been dreaming of taking over it for the 20 years since I started playing. While I enjoy the further dominance that football is gaining in the area, I think that it is sad that the diversity of games that were played on the same grounds is dying off. Even though I didn't really understand what was going on on the field back in the other two sports then I enjoyed watching three sports being played by my age group every weekend. At my current club we used to be able to play our game then walk up to the other field and join a large crowd to watch players who'd just been dropped from the Shark's squad for the week playing for their local club side. That was dead this year.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xBy fielding smaller teams and playing on a soccer pitch, he said it was easier than full-scale football to take overseas and may one day form a part of the AFL's international expansion plans. When will the AFL hierarchy stop oscillating their hands up and down their phalluses and forget expansion overseas? I've lived and travelled overseas for years and years and have never, ever read one word about aerial ping pong. The story must have only appeared in SA, WA, Victorian or Tasmanian media. Anywhere else it would be ridiculed. Maybe you need to get out a bit more. AFL will never expand overseas. Not ever. Quits simply, it's too late. They would've had to do it decades ago (which was obviously impossible). The world is too set in its ways and globalised. No country will embrace something so new, especially when it has no prospects for them. There are other sports in the world much bigger than AFL, such as gridiron and baseball, and even these have very little marketability outside of America. Except maybe Japan for baseball. again....AFL doesn't need to have Pro-Leagues in countries to expand.....do you see rugby union have pro leagues all around the world, 96 countries where in the Rugby World Cup qualifying, 39 of those countries from Europe....did you watch Croatia vs Netherlands Rugby World Cup qualifying, match? no, but it happen , both countries have a National team , with out a pro League AFL X will expand. AFL football outside of Australia, because the game will fit on a soccer ground I would be amazed if the game takes off in Qld... let alone overseas i don't see why it should take off.......but i don't see AFL X for Australia Then what have you been arguing in the past pages. Fuck me you are nauseating.
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What AFL does rather successfully is it taps into this country's sense of wanting to prove its worth. It feeds off the parochialism and defensiveness which is commonplace (but not universal) in mainstream Australia.
The more critical you are of it, the more they (and others in Australia) become defensive about it and try to reinforce how good it is.
I don't have a problem with Aussie Rules supporters/the AFL when they're not aggressive and defensive (not actually an oxymoron). Admittedly, I'd sooner see its athletes play other sports. But it's only when the fans and organisations become aggressive and defensive that I get pissed off with them. Unfortunately, this seems to be par for the course. In keeping with the attitude of far too many in Australia.
E.g. QandA this week. People in the audience getting upset because Shakespeare is apparently stopping great Australian works getting the attention they deserve.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xBy fielding smaller teams and playing on a soccer pitch, he said it was easier than full-scale football to take overseas and may one day form a part of the AFL's international expansion plans. When will the AFL hierarchy stop oscillating their hands up and down their phalluses and forget expansion overseas? I've lived and travelled overseas for years and years and have never, ever read one word about aerial ping pong. The story must have only appeared in SA, WA, Victorian or Tasmanian media. Anywhere else it would be ridiculed. Maybe you need to get out a bit more. AFL will never expand overseas. Not ever. Quits simply, it's too late. They would've had to do it decades ago (which was obviously impossible). The world is too set in its ways and globalised. No country will embrace something so new, especially when it has no prospects for them. There are other sports in the world much bigger than AFL, such as gridiron and baseball, and even these have very little marketability outside of America. Except maybe Japan for baseball. again....AFL doesn't need to have Pro-Leagues in countries to expand.....do you see rugby union have pro leagues all around the world, 96 countries where in the Rugby World Cup qualifying, 39 of those countries from Europe....did you watch Croatia vs Netherlands Rugby World Cup qualifying, match? no, but it happen , both countries have a National team , with out a pro League AFL X will expand. AFL football outside of Australia, because the game will fit on a soccer ground I would be amazed if the game takes off in Qld... let alone overseas i don't see why it should take off.......but i don't see AFL X for Australia
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http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-accused-of-exploiting-figures-20120723-22knq.html#ixzz21U3GIIQwVFL rent-seeking, lies and inflating figures. Shows player numbers and quality declining but they claim increases. Their little game is in trouble, no wonder Mr VFL is such a desperate zealot.
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+x+x+x+x+xBy fielding smaller teams and playing on a soccer pitch, he said it was easier than full-scale football to take overseas and may one day form a part of the AFL's international expansion plans. When will the AFL hierarchy stop oscillating their hands up and down their phalluses and forget expansion overseas? I've lived and travelled overseas for years and years and have never, ever read one word about aerial ping pong. The story must have only appeared in SA, WA, Victorian or Tasmanian media. Anywhere else it would be ridiculed. Maybe you need to get out a bit more. AFL will never expand overseas. Not ever. Quits simply, it's too late. They would've had to do it decades ago (which was obviously impossible). The world is too set in its ways and globalised. No country will embrace something so new, especially when it has no prospects for them. There are other sports in the world much bigger than AFL, such as gridiron and baseball, and even these have very little marketability outside of America. Except maybe Japan for baseball. again....AFL doesn't need to have Pro-Leagues in countries to expand.....do you see rugby union have pro leagues all around the world, 96 countries where in the Rugby World Cup qualifying, 39 of those countries from Europe....did you watch Croatia vs Netherlands Rugby World Cup qualifying, match? no, but it happen , both countries have a National team , with out a pro League AFL X will expand. AFL football outside of Australia, because the game will fit on a soccer ground I would be amazed if the game takes off in Qld... let alone overseas
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+x+xStop responding to tardtho aka draupkick. He's winding you up. Lol true. I deserve a ban haha No he does but the mods are clueless.
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+xStop responding to tardtho aka draupkick. He's winding you up. Lol true. I deserve a ban haha
Is Wellington diverse? Dont know, however this is a club that has no historical or existing link to a specific migrant group - Rusty Einstein
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+x+x+x+x+x+xLove reading these posts. AFL has dropped the ball. In schools its basketball or soccer. Even the ELF pitches have football GE's played on them. If you said 25 years ago how popular football was people would now be people would think your were sokkah's equivalent of Mister Football. If you had said 15 years ago how many kids would be playing people would laugh. If you had said 30 years ago our top football players would earn 5 to ten times more than our top Aussie rules players they'd lock you up. but that has happen, not because of what the AFL did or din't do......but because football in Australia became a professional organisation in Australia, it because Frank took a shit hole organisation abd brought in a group of pro people to run FFA it doesn't matter what the AFL does,if t wasn't the AFL it be some other sport organisation doing it Yeah but youre missing the part where afl has been involved in a conspiracy against football for the last 50 years. Sure there were problems within the game... but dont give me that shit. This latest barrage from afl puppets is not the first rodeo. U been living under an eastern european rock? sure, let not talk about the main reason Football was keep down....blame the AFL conspiracy.....but when Football get the right people running the game, bang the game grows it's called competition....when you had fruit market owners running football , it was no wonder some of the fruit was falling from the back of the truck Nah mate not so easy. This is a thread about grounds right? Heres an article that mayve already been posted here before.... and its the real truth about the history of this situation being played out for over 50 years like groundhog day (No pun intended). Not ardtho's fantasy land where its all the milk bar owners fault... heres the opening... and i implore u to read on " The Code War 1950s' Style There must be a united front from all Australian football clubs to halt the soccer movement. Around Australia, and particularly in Victoria, access to (enclosed) grounds has been a troubling issue ever since people have wanted to play organised outdoor sport. As the dominant Victorian code, Australian rules has looked on protectively at the network of grounds over which it has had tenure, having established its possession of them over many years. Periodically, other sports, often soccer, have threatened the exclusivity and stability of that network of grounds. There have been years when the tension has escalated into something resembling sustained turf wars. 1954 was as vicious as any. The story of this footballing year opens with an incredible offer from J.U.S.T. Soccer Club to pay the local council £800 (perhaps $40,000 in today's terms) to rent Toorak Park on alternate weeks throughout the winter. The council initially rejected the offer, something which caused an outrage among ratepayers......................l" http://neososmos.blogspot.com.au/2012/05/1954.html?m=1It goes on.... but lemme guess... we have a victim mentality... and blame hard working migrants. 1954 :D did they let Catholic play sports back then ?
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Stop responding to tardtho aka draupkick. He's winding you up.
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+x+x+x+x+xLove reading these posts. AFL has dropped the ball. In schools its basketball or soccer. Even the ELF pitches have football GE's played on them. If you said 25 years ago how popular football was people would now be people would think your were sokkah's equivalent of Mister Football. If you had said 15 years ago how many kids would be playing people would laugh. If you had said 30 years ago our top football players would earn 5 to ten times more than our top Aussie rules players they'd lock you up. but that has happen, not because of what the AFL did or din't do......but because football in Australia became a professional organisation in Australia, it because Frank took a shit hole organisation abd brought in a group of pro people to run FFA it doesn't matter what the AFL does,if t wasn't the AFL it be some other sport organisation doing it Yeah but youre missing the part where afl has been involved in a conspiracy against football for the last 50 years. Sure there were problems within the game... but dont give me that shit. This latest barrage from afl puppets is not the first rodeo. U been living under an eastern european rock? sure, let not talk about the main reason Football was keep down....blame the AFL conspiracy.....but when Football get the right people running the game, bang the game grows it's called competition....when you had fruit market owners running football , it was no wonder some of the fruit was falling from the back of the truck Nah mate not so easy. This is a thread about grounds right? Heres an article that mayve already been posted here before.... and its the real truth about the history of this situation being played out for over 50 years like groundhog day (No pun intended). Not ardtho's fantasy land where its all the milk bar owners fault... heres the opening... and i implore u to read on " The Code War 1950s' Style There must be a united front from all Australian football clubs to halt the soccer movement. Around Australia, and particularly in Victoria, access to (enclosed) grounds has been a troubling issue ever since people have wanted to play organised outdoor sport. As the dominant Victorian code, Australian rules has looked on protectively at the network of grounds over which it has had tenure, having established its possession of them over many years. Periodically, other sports, often soccer, have threatened the exclusivity and stability of that network of grounds. There have been years when the tension has escalated into something resembling sustained turf wars. 1954 was as vicious as any. The story of this footballing year opens with an incredible offer from J.U.S.T. Soccer Club to pay the local council £800 (perhaps $40,000 in today's terms) to rent Toorak Park on alternate weeks throughout the winter. The council initially rejected the offer, something which caused an outrage among ratepayers......................l" http://neososmos.blogspot.com.au/2012/05/1954.html?m=1It goes on.... but lemme guess... we have a victim mentality... and blame hard working migrants.
Is Wellington diverse? Dont know, however this is a club that has no historical or existing link to a specific migrant group - Rusty Einstein
The negative stereotypes are perpetuated by people who either have no idea or are serving a vested interest; neither viewpoint should get anywhere near running Australian football - Ange Postecoglou
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+x+x+xHandball is s much bigger than than you give it credit tbh i know how big or not Handball is Dead set, you don't you know what i know? so you know all about getting a sports bookmaker licence from Denmark to?
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My comment about handball was directed at Crimson.
AFL is like Gaelic football etc and obscure. Handball is a popular international game.
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+xUntil football can get leading politicians on side, it's always going to be hard...
Ms Bishop, a former Eagles board member, said the AFL invited her to the game.
DFAT and the ALF are " are partners in sports development in the Pacific" with Jules doing her level best to help get them there hoping, no doubt, to get another gig with her "beloved" Eagles when Tones finally pounces and ends her ministerial career. AFL are expert rent seekers. If there is anyway they can muscle in on someone else's budget they will do it. Aid funding to poor pacific islands nations? Shit hey AFL should get in on that. I'd be shocked if the 10 cents in the dollar stays on the island after the AFL has sucked the blood out of it. They don't have any shame.
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+xUntil football can get leading politicians on side, it's always going to be hard...
Ms Bishop, a former Eagles board member, said the AFL invited her to the game.
DFAT and the ALF are " are partners in sports development in the Pacific" with Jules doing her level best to help get them there hoping, no doubt, to get another gig with her "beloved" Eagles when Tones finally pounces and ends her ministerial career. Just like our young and upcoming supporter base we need to wait until the old politician farts pass away and the young pro football ones make it up the ranks
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Until football can get leading politicians on side, it's always going to be hard...
Ms Bishop, a former Eagles board member, said the AFL invited her to the game.
DFAT and the ALF are " are partners in sports development in the Pacific" with Jules doing her level best to help get them there hoping, no doubt, to get another gig with her "beloved" Eagles when Tones finally pounces and ends her ministerial career.
Its a game for everyone. Its not pale, male, or stale. It transcends race, gender, economic status. Its for everyone. - Tal Karp
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+xNot sure why people are getting so precious about this. Even AFL fans are disgusted by the idea of it. Let it fizzle out and never be mentioned again. yes
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+x+x+x+xLove reading these posts. AFL has dropped the ball. In schools its basketball or soccer. Even the ELF pitches have football GE's played on them. If you said 25 years ago how popular football was people would now be people would think your were sokkah's equivalent of Mister Football. If you had said 15 years ago how many kids would be playing people would laugh. If you had said 30 years ago our top football players would earn 5 to ten times more than our top Aussie rules players they'd lock you up. but that has happen, not because of what the AFL did or din't do......but because football in Australia became a professional organisation in Australia, it because Frank took a shit hole organisation abd brought in a group of pro people to run FFA it doesn't matter what the AFL does,if t wasn't the AFL it be some other sport organisation doing it Yeah but youre missing the part where afl has been involved in a conspiracy against football for the last 50 years. Sure there were problems within the game... but dont give me that shit. This latest barrage from afl puppets is not the first rodeo. U been living under an eastern european rock? sure, let not talk about the main reason Football was keep down....blame the AFL conspiracy.....but when Football get the right people running the game, bang the game grows it's called competition....when you had fruit market owners running football , it was no wonder some of the fruit was falling from the back of the truck
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+x+xHandball is s much bigger than than you give it credit tbh i know how big or not Handball is Dead set, you don't
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+x+xOne thought occurred to me,Why are AFL referring to playing on soccer fields rather than rugby or NRL fields.They are all pretty much the same dimensions?plus rugby and league fields get much less use in summer.Or here is an idea.Why not divide up AFL ovals and play on their own turf?Are they just wanting to chop up the playing surface which is so much more important to football? because there no NRL fields on most of the world this games AFL X is all about playing AFL football in countries that don't have cricket grounds Rugby Union is played in a ton of countries
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI still don't see how it could possibly work on a small pitch. It won't work. It will not take off, in fact it will not even get greenlit. I'm surprised the AFL even leaked it as a PR story - they are usually a lot better at this, it just makes them look like idiots who are not in control of their game. imagine the pack pedaling when they explain why we need this game, but there's nothing wrong with international rules either why...whats has Rugby said about Rugby 7s and cricket said about 20/20 No, anyone with half a brain knew 20/20 was a great idea. 20/20 was played 50 years ago.... Who by? I remember the first game in the UK, drunks sitting in plastic paddle pools watching it and that was not 50 years ago, but that doesn't mean it wasn't played in one of the tiny amount of country's that play cricket, I thought it was an Indian concept, but not 50 yrs ago. I haven't paid attention to cricket since 20Twenty came in and pushed the memories into dark recesses, so I could be wrong.
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+xHandball is s much bigger than than you give it credit tbh i know how big or not Handball is
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+xgain....AFL doesn't need to have Pro-Leagues in countries to expand.....do you see rugby union have pro leagues all around the world, 96 countries where in the Rugby World Cup qualifying, 39 of those countries from Europe....did you watch Croatia vs Netherlands Rugby World Cup qualifying, match? no, but it happen , both countries have a National team , with out a pro League AFL X will expand. AFL football outside of Australia, because the Adrtho2. the AFL hierarchy have their heads too far up their rear ends to realise what a complete waste of time they will be embarking on. AFL and aflX will always be a peculiar Australian game .It may be a novelty to people in other countries ,like Gallic football,handball or chasing a goats head on horseback. But if there is even a remote chance that an amateur league is established overseas.....So what? Do AFL types really believe this is a gateway game to suck new foreigners into AFL? Imagine AFL tactics.....Hey we are coming to your country to rape and pillage your soccer pitches .We don't give a stuff about turning them into cow paddocks...and ffs it's Soccer! Now clear out you wog poofters and let us kick our heavy oval balls. Yes we know you already prefer to kick oval balls in rugby or league ,but this is dumber so maybe you will appreciate it more. I just find this hilarious.This is a clear smoke screen for attacking Australian Football ,otherwise the only conclusion is that the AFL hierachy are engaging in mass delusion. if you're playing AFL X in Europe, you might be interested in watching AFL from Australia.......that it, that the goal, it not the goal for world domination AFL football find it hard to find space to play AFL footy in most European cites....with AFL x, this will no longer be a problem you guys are making it more then what it is...
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+x+x+x+x+x+xI still don't see how it could possibly work on a small pitch. It won't work. It will not take off, in fact it will not even get greenlit. I'm surprised the AFL even leaked it as a PR story - they are usually a lot better at this, it just makes them look like idiots who are not in control of their game. imagine the pack pedaling when they explain why we need this game, but there's nothing wrong with international rules either why...whats has Rugby said about Rugby 7s and cricket said about 20/20 No, anyone with half a brain knew 20/20 was a great idea. 20/20 was played 50 years ago.... Who by? I remember the first game in the UK, drunks sitting in plastic paddle pools watching it and that was not 50 years ago, but that doesn't mean it wasn't played in one of the tiny amount of country's that play cricket, As for 7 a side ARF, I think the 2 major reasons it's not played professionally anywhere else is that having 80kg men running full pelt and smashing your head with their shoulder, elbow, hip and other hard bony part; or jumping up and planting their knee between shoulder blades ( the two major selling points of ARF ), is something most people with a brain don't want to do.
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+xagain....AFL doesn't need to have Pro-Leagues in countries to expand.....do you see rugby union have pro leagues all around the world, is this a trick question because it's traditionally been an amateur sport? But anyway, yes, you do see professional leagues/competitions/tournaments all around the world,
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