Retractable roof proposed for MCG


Retractable roof proposed for MCG

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Soft News - 7 Nov 2016 10:41 AM
Multibet - 7 Nov 2016 10:38 AM

The AFL trying to scam more public money. That is all it is. The MCC are purely a mouthpiece for the AFL. Gough is ex Carlton CEO.

Its not the AFL, or the MCC. Its Stephen Gough on his own as part of a brainstorming thing on the future of Melbourne. The MCG facebook and twitter flatly denied any roof was wanted or proposed at this time.

Soft News - 7 Nov 2016 6:43 PM
9GABmeme420 - 7 Nov 2016 6:12 PM

That is the point. To steal Govt money away from updating AAMI to 40,000. The AFL And MCC are good at this, taking money from everyone else.

Its not the point at all, this was one mans idea for the future of the stadium - and he's retiring. There is no current proposal to upgrade Aami to 40,000, and moneys available for stadium and facility upgrades arent necessarily going to be available to others if the AFL clubs didnt get them.

Not to mention that the MCG is largely self funding - The Vic Governments contributions to the MCG are less than 120 million since 1989, and that includes $77 million spent in 2002 on the Northern Stand when the Feds bailed - and for the Commonwealth Games at that - and $30 million for Southern Stand upgrades in 2011. Most of the 400 million cost of the Northern Stand was funded by loans, like the Southern Stand before it. With a build cost of $268 million its very likely that more taxpayer money was spent on Aami Park being built than has been spent on the MCG in the last 40 years or so, let alone Docklands which had no taxpayer funds put into it. 


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Multibet - 7 Nov 2016 7:07 PM
paladisious - 7 Nov 2016 6:39 PM

Sydney has the largest infrastructure pipeline of any state in Australia, and according to the government's own forecasts, there will be an estimated $74 billion in transport infrastructure spending just in NSW over the next four years, according to Colliers International.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/property/confidence-returning-to-old-estates-in-sydneys-west-20161020-gs778v.html

Infrastructure Victoria has released a plan that recommends the state government spend up to $100 billion over the next three decades.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/property/cities-playing-catchup-with-urban-boom-james-rosenwax/news-story/6db7a0fe5bfbb7dddb6718ff2e978046


Like i said Victoria will have a population the size of Sydney maybe larger. Vic Gov plans on putting all those extra people in Melbourne while Sydney creates its second city in Parramatta and spends a truck load on transport infrastructure.

Might want to use that MCG roof money on your transport infrastructure plans if you plan to keep your self anointed most livable city tag haha

Ignores my points and pretends that Parramatta isn't in metro Sydney.

You're going off sources that are based of non committed future estimates over multiple election cycles, I'm referring to projects actually in work.

There is no word for your arguments other than delusional.

I'd be happy to hear about any actual plans for the good people of Sydney, but unfortunately you're selling yourself a bridge; which is funny because that and an opera house you've never been inside is all you got! :)

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What a waste of money, no thanks.





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that'd be a big f-king roof!
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Multibet - 7 Nov 2016 7:07 PM
paladisious - 7 Nov 2016 6:39 PM

Sydney has the largest infrastructure pipeline of any state in Australia, and according to the government's own forecasts, there will be an estimated $74 billion in transport infrastructure spending just in NSW over the next four years, according to Colliers International.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/property/confidence-returning-to-old-estates-in-sydneys-west-20161020-gs778v.html

Infrastructure Victoria has released a plan that recommends the state government spend up to $100 billion over the next three decades.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/property/cities-playing-catchup-with-urban-boom-james-rosenwax/news-story/6db7a0fe5bfbb7dddb6718ff2e978046


Like i said Victoria will have a population the size of Sydney maybe larger. Vic Gov plans on putting all those extra people in Melbourne while Sydney creates its second city in Parramatta and spends a truck load on transport infrastructure.

Might want to use that MCG roof money on your transport infrastructure plans if you plan to keep your self anointed most livable city tag haha

It isn't self anointed, we are ranked number 1 most livable city. Also didn't see you answer any of the issues about living in Sydney which can be an absolute nightmare.
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paladisious - 7 Nov 2016 6:39 PM
Multibet - 7 Nov 2016 6:20 PM

Sounds like you're full of shit without posting sources, and if that it just sounds like partisan talking points.

Fact is that the actual rollout of infrastructure in the last few years (not just the talk but actual shovels in ground) has been remarkable in Melbourne, the level crossing removals, the Monash widening, the Western Distributor and the Regional Rail Link as a prime examples.

Sounds like you've been caught out in a lie and are holding onto some serious jealousy.

On Saturday in Sydney I had to trudge miles on foot from the stadium (no train there to speak of) to the hipster bar where I met up with a prominent Sydney FC supporter from this forum, my drink cost $19! Then I barely started it before we had to get out of there to beat your nanny state lockout laws, I was like, no worries, just catch a night train like we have 24 hours on weekends in Melbourne? Nope, $40 taxi. Had to wait until 7am for the first flight out of that shithole because of curfews due to NSW never spending on a new major airport in over a century! What were you saying about infrastructure?

Sydney can be a very nice place, but when it comes to infrastructure and cost of living, without mentioning your ridiculously politicised lockout laws, even the most biased of Tard haters on here have to admit that Sydney is way, way behind the eight ball of what a major international city should be.

Sydney has the largest infrastructure pipeline of any state in Australia, and according to the government's own forecasts, there will be an estimated $74 billion in transport infrastructure spending just in NSW over the next four years, according to Colliers International.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/property/confidence-returning-to-old-estates-in-sydneys-west-20161020-gs778v.html

Infrastructure Victoria has released a plan that recommends the state government spend up to $100 billion over the next three decades.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/property/cities-playing-catchup-with-urban-boom-james-rosenwax/news-story/6db7a0fe5bfbb7dddb6718ff2e978046


Like i said Victoria will have a population the size of Sydney maybe larger. Vic Gov plans on putting all those extra people in Melbourne while Sydney creates its second city in Parramatta and spends a truck load on transport infrastructure.

Might want to use that MCG roof money on your transport infrastructure plans if you plan to keep your self anointed most livable city tag haha

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9GABmeme420 - 7 Nov 2016 6:12 PM
We could use that money to make a 50,000 seater for victory like the government could have done initially.

That is the point. To steal Govt money away from updating AAMI to 40,000. The AFL And MCC are good at this, taking money from everyone else.
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Multibet - 7 Nov 2016 6:20 PM
paladisious - 7 Nov 2016 6:11 PM

Sydney is spending 70billion over 4 years on infrastructure compared to Melbourne's great plan of 100billion over 30 years.

You will have one of these Chinese type Citys in no time.

Not very livable if you ask me haha

Sounds like you're full of shit without posting sources, and if that it just sounds like partisan talking points.

Fact is that the actual rollout of infrastructure in the last few years (not just the talk but actual shovels in ground) has been remarkable in Melbourne, the level crossing removals, the Monash widening, the Western Distributor and the Regional Rail Link as a prime examples.

Sounds like you've been caught out in a lie and are holding onto some serious jealousy.

On Saturday in Sydney I had to trudge miles on foot from the stadium (no train there to speak of) to the hipster bar where I met up with a prominent Sydney FC supporter from this forum, my drink cost $19! Then I barely started it before we had to get out of there to beat your nanny state lockout laws, I was like, no worries, just catch a night train like we have 24 hours on weekends in Melbourne? Nope, $40 taxi. Had to wait until 7am for the first flight out of that shithole because of curfews due to NSW never spending on a new major airport in over a century! What were you saying about infrastructure?

Sydney can be a very nice place if you can afford it; my brother had a flat right on the water in Woolloomooloo when he was in the Navy, went to his rooftop for New Year's and it was amazing, but when it comes to infrastructure and cost of living, without mentioning your ridiculously politicised lockout laws, even the most biased of Tard haters on here have to admit that Sydney is way, way behind the eight ball of what a major international city should be.

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paladisious - 7 Nov 2016 6:11 PM
Multibet - 7 Nov 2016 6:07 PM

lol, that's not a picture of Melbourne. You did a Google image search for "ugly Chinese city", but you're not fooling anyone.

Moving from misinformation to outright lies.

I don't blame you, you have to in the face of the clear, independently verified truth that Melbourne is the most livable city, the shining light in infrastructure spend, the sports and events capital, and the place to be in every way. :)

Sydney is spending 70billion over 4 years on infrastructure compared to Melbourne's great plan of 100billion over 30 years.

You will have one of these Chinese type Citys in no time.

Not very livable if you ask me haha

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paladisious - 7 Nov 2016 5:39 PM
Jealously of the world's most livable city and sporting capital coming through loud and clear in this thread.

I'm from Melbourne and this is a terrible idea, stadium is already iconic and this roof won't improve crowds on wet days. Because people won't turn up regardless if it's raining.
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We could use that money to make a 50,000 seater for victory like the government could have done initially.

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Multibet - 7 Nov 2016 6:07 PM
paladisious - 7 Nov 2016 6:03 PM

Its not jealousy its fact, your state Government are building you your very own China Style city.

Enjoy lol

Image result for china ugly cities



lol, that's not a picture of Melbourne. You did a Google image search for "ugly Chinese city", but you're not fooling anyone.

Moving from misinformation to outright lies.

I don't blame you, you have to in the face of the clear, independently verified truth that Melbourne is the most livable city, the shining light in infrastructure spend, the sports and events capital, and the place to be in every way. :)
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paladisious - 7 Nov 2016 6:03 PM
Multibet - 7 Nov 2016 5:57 PM

Jealous as.

Andrews government has done more for infrastructure than any state government has in a long time. The prioritising of investment in public transit over toll road tunnels will be celebrated as a wise choice in years to come while poor Sydney people are driven further and further west, with the class segregation that goes with it.

In the meantime I'll enjoy being able to meet my mates for a beer after the streetlights come on, unlike Bairdtopia. :)

Its not jealousy its fact, your state Government are building you your very own China Style city.

Enjoy lol

Image result for china ugly cities



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Multibet - 7 Nov 2016 5:57 PM
paladisious - 7 Nov 2016 5:39 PM

You might want to put the money for this MCG roof idea towards your infrastructure problems that will no doubt arise once your predicted population hits7-8million.

Melbourne is already starting to become gridlocked at peak hour and your Vic government has so little infrastructure plans to combat the upcoming problems.

Sydney is spending 70billion over 4 years on unlocking sydneys traffic problems, Melbourne plans to spend 100m over 30 years.

Your city want be livable for much longer pal.

Jealous as.

Andrews government has done more for infrastructure than any state government has in a long time. The prioritising of investment in public transit over toll road tunnels will be celebrated as a wise choice in years to come while poor Sydney people are driven further and further west, with the class segregation that goes with it.

In the meantime I'll enjoy being able to meet my mates for a beer after the streetlights come on, unlike Bairdtopia. :)
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paladisious - 7 Nov 2016 5:39 PM
Jealously of the world's most livable city and sporting capital coming through loud and clear in this thread.

More like Melbournes AFL orientated stupidity 
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paladisious - 7 Nov 2016 5:39 PM
Jealously of the world's most livable city and sporting capital coming through loud and clear in this thread.

You might want to put the money for this MCG roof idea towards your infrastructure problems that will no doubt arise once your predicted population hits7-8million.

Melbourne is already starting to become gridlocked at peak hour and your Vic government has so little infrastructure plans to combat the upcoming problems.

Sydney is spending 70billion over 4 years on unlocking sydneys traffic problems, Melbourne plans to spend 100b over 30 years.

Your city wont be livable for much longer pal.

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Jealously of the world's most livable city and sporting capital coming through loud and clear in this thread.
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scott21 - 7 Nov 2016 4:18 PM
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Image result for minnesota vikings new stadium roof

But would have to one of the biggest. The vikings one is big Image result for us bank stadium
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paladisious - 7 Nov 2016 4:12 PM
I can't do the maths, but I wonder if the MCG would become the biggest building by volume in the world if a roof was added? Surely it'd be in with a shot.

Image result for minnesota vikings new stadium roof
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paladisious - 7 Nov 2016 4:12 PM
I can't do the maths, but I wonder if the MCG would become the biggest building by volume in the world if a roof was added? Surely it'd be in with a shot.

Melbourne crowds aren't very loud.

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I can't do the maths, but I wonder if the MCG would become the biggest building by volume in the world if a roof was added? Surely it'd be in with a shot.
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I can't believe someone got paid for such a shit photoshop job; look at the light tower getting erased on the bottom left!

In fact, why would the light towers even be there if there's a roof like that in the way?!

I'd be ashamed if I did such a shit job making a shit meme in five minutes for you idiots on 442, let alone being paid by a media giant for it.
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Nothing like the HUN fanboys trying to pressure the government for a nice upgrade for their AFL mates
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paladisious - 7 Nov 2016 11:34 AM
It's the biggest event space for a city that is very, very serious about hosting events of all sorts, and I can attest firsthand how important that is to the state's economy, so dropping half a billion on major upgrades (as long as they're practicable) is perfectly sensible, in general terms.

Just as long as it comes with a hydraulically lowerable field with retractable rectangular seating, it's all good!
This. Fuck a roof, TBH.




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fcstan - 7 Nov 2016 12:35 PM

looks shit


It's just the paper's slapdash job, I think.

Something like the new Atlanta Stadium would be the go for the MCG:



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looks shit


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It's the biggest event space for a city that is very, very serious about hosting events of all sorts, and I can attest firsthand how important that is to the state's economy, so dropping half a billion on major upgrades (as long as they're practicable) is perfectly sensible, in general terms.

Just as long as it comes with a hydraulically lowerable field with retractable rectangular seating, it's all good!
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Big Bash must be making so much cash, they're weighing up the cost of rain-offs

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"Also to be considered is public perception with the MCG arguably the country’s most beloved stadium"

Can't help themselves. Just have to try and prove somehow that something Melbourne is ahead-of-the-pack quality. There are many good stadiums around Australia that are far better aesthetically than a big, grey oval where seagulls fight over chips 

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