The Melbourne Victory Supporters Thread 2.0


The Melbourne Victory Supporters Thread 2.0

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Marco Rojas is ready to rock, he just needs to find a club. Melbourne City had hoped Rojas would replace Uruguayan Javier Cabrera, who officially departed on Sunday, but the Kiwi winger has rejected the Bundoora offer.

It leaves a return to Melbourne Victory or Wellington Phoenix as his most likely outcome. If he in fact signs in the A-League.

Rojas played as recently as December 15, with his Danish club SonderjyskE understood to have offered him a contract extension.His preference was to return “home”.

Victory is doing everything possible to fit him in, but they must release a visa player to make it happen. Austrian Kristijan Dobras and Dane Jakob Poulsen are believed to be the players told they can leave.


https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/duvas-xi-sam-kerr-and-caitlin-foord-our-new-harry-kewell-mark-viduka/news-story/368cca89206173114995d166d3539b78

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We just have to make Rojas happen. forget about this season. start planning for next season now. 
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Feed_The_Brox - 13 Jan 2020 11:15 AM
We just have to make Rojas happen. forget about this season. start planning for next season now. 

Why do we keep taking him back in and out like a fucking hotel though.

Sign him to a 3-4 year deal or some shit so that he hangs around.

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Victory are the   Rojas / Barbarouses tag team
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richv - 13 Jan 2020 12:51 PM
Victory are the   Rojas / Barbarouses tag team

Accurate! See what happens when finally we don't have one of them in the team for a season. We need that Kiwi power!
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paulbagzFC - 13 Jan 2020 12:45 PM

Why do we keep taking him back in and out like a fucking hotel though.

Sign him to a 3-4 year deal or some shit so that he hangs around.

-PB

agree. if he wants a 1 or 1.5 year deal, tell him to GAGF. needs to be 3.5 years.  
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Feed_The_Brox - 13 Jan 2020 11:15 AM
We just have to make Rojas happen. forget about this season. start planning for next season now. 

Needs to happen, literally hoping for this to turn the season around. 
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Didn't he always want to be a number 10... if dobras goes this could be his time. 
I think poulsen is starting to show a little bit so definitely hoping its dobras.
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scubaroo - 13 Jan 2020 1:34 PM
Didn't he always want to be a number 10... if dobras goes this could be his time. 
I think poulsen is starting to show a little bit so definitely hoping its dobras.

A wise man asked for this move in this thread - see last November 21st.

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Pay out Dobras, offer Rojas the rest of the cap and then promise a marquee deal for 3 years after that. Enough of this continual churnout, let’s get some consistency in the squad ffs 
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433 - 13 Jan 2020 2:10 PM
Pay out Dobras, offer Rojas the rest of the cap and then promise a marquee deal for 3 years after that. Enough of this continual churnout, let’s get some consistency in the squad ffs 

the problem at the moment is that no one knows what the salary cap will be next season. thats why most clubs have players on 1 year deals and not many are making signings right now. This should have been decided by now so teams can start making plans. 
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Feed_The_Brox - 13 Jan 2020 3:33 PM
433 - 13 Jan 2020 2:10 PM

the problem at the moment is that no one knows what the salary cap will be next season. thats why most clubs have players on 1 year deals and not many are making signings right now. This should have been decided by now so teams can start making plans. 

The easy and obvious solution is no salary cap!
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433 - 13 Jan 2020 2:10 PM
Pay out Dobras, offer Rojas the rest of the cap and then promise a marquee deal for 3 years after that. Enough of this continual churnout, let’s get some consistency in the squad ffs 

Unless its  a mutual termination his wage will count towards the cap
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I don't think Dobras is going to go for a mutual termination...who would pick him up after the woeful performances he has displayed so far?
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griff1 - 13 Jan 2020 5:34 PM
I don't think Dobras is going to go for a mutual termination...who would pick him up after the woeful performances he has displayed so far?

I know, a Youtube highlights reel at his time at Victory would last all of eight seconds!  
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 13 Jan 2020 5:12 PM
433 - 13 Jan 2020 2:10 PM

Unless its  a mutual termination his wage will count towards the cap

I know, that's why I said pay out Dobras and back-end Rojas's contract heavily.
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433 - 13 Jan 2020 6:47 PM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 13 Jan 2020 5:12 PM

I know, that's why I said pay out Dobras and back-end Rojas's contract heavily.

Still it will count towards the cap. Hence why we kept bru for so long 
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 13 Jan 2020 5:12 PM
433 - 13 Jan 2020 2:10 PM

Unless its  a mutual termination his wage will count towards the cap

I always wonder about those so-called mutual terminations. I would not at all be surprised to discover that some clubs find creative ways of compensating the player to circumvent the cap. 
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someguyjc - 13 Jan 2020 11:06 PM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 13 Jan 2020 5:12 PM

I always wonder about those so-called mutual terminations. I would not at all be surprised to discover that some clubs find creative ways of compensating the player to circumvent the cap. 

Please let me make a recomendation to Melbourne Victory. There is an NRL club I support in Sydney and they have an uncle there that makes everything alright with the salary crap.. The former salary cap auditor works at that club too. Yes you said it baby!! Uncle Nick Politis and the Sydney Roosters!!! You can add Sergio Aguero too if you let him run your club!
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 13 Jan 2020 8:03 PM
433 - 13 Jan 2020 6:47 PM

Still it will count towards the cap. Hence why we kept bru for so long 


It's an decent strategy. We have some approx $200,000 in extra cap space so if we could just consider Dobras or Poulsens contract as a sunk cost and unilaterally terminate one of them, we could use that to pick that to get Rojas in now. Backloading his contract with a wage rise in year 2 and 3, which would be good incentive to stop this "come and go as i please" mentality he has.

Obviously it would be better to get a mutual termination for both Dobras and Poulsen but unless there is another club willing to pick them up straight away, there is no way they'd willingly give up their wages and chance to live in Australia.

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melbourne_terrace - 14 Jan 2020 4:59 AM

It's an decent strategy. We have some approx $200,000 in extra cap space so if we could just consider Dobras or Poulsens contract as a sunk cost and unilaterally terminate one of them, we could use that to pick that to get Rojas in now. 

I have heard rumours we are well under the cap. Which is very disappointing when we let the likes of Kosta sign for our biggest rival. We should be squeezing every cent we can to get the best talent. 

but putting that aside... with the benefit of hindsight, i wonder if we should have gone in with 4 visa players - saving one for January - instead of rushing to fill our compliment of visa players and buggering it up? If we can't relase one and Rojas signs for someone else, we'll only have ourselves to blame. 
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Tampines Rovers and Bali United will be playing off at 10:30pm our time tonight, I'll try and find a stream but I won't hold my breath.
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Feed_The_Brox - 14 Jan 2020 9:40 AM
melbourne_terrace - 14 Jan 2020 4:59 AM

I have heard rumours we are well under the cap. Which is very disappointing when we let the likes of Kosta sign for our biggest rival. We should be squeezing every cent we can to get the best talent. 

but putting that aside... with the benefit of hindsight, i wonder if we should have gone in with 4 visa players - saving one for January - instead of rushing to fill our compliment of visa players and buggering it up? If we can't relase one and Rojas signs for someone else, we'll only have ourselves to blame. 

I thought the same when we signed Dobras, Poulsen and Hoogland too. I reckon ADP went cheap this year after the outlay for Honda. 

I'm surprised we don't have a cashed-up owner wanting to have a piece of us, as we're undoubtedly the most biggest club in the league.

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Still it will count towards the cap. Hence why we kept bru for so long 

I'm aware, I meant we literally end up paying Rojas like 50k this season or something and back-load it heavily over the next 3 years.

It's all academic however, as we've somehow managed to fuck Dobras off when I honestly thought he'd squeeze every last penny out of his Aussie holiday. 
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433 - 14 Jan 2020 7:47 PM
Feed_The_Brox - 14 Jan 2020 9:40 AM

I thought the same when we signed Dobras, Poulsen and Hoogland too. I reckon ADP went cheap this year after the outlay for Honda. 

I'm surprised we don't have a cashed-up owner wanting to have a piece of us, as we're undoubtedly the most biggest club in the league.

MvFCArsenal16.8 - 13 Jan 2020 8:03 PM

I'm aware, I meant we literally end up paying Rojas like 50k this season or something and back-load it heavily over the next 3 years.

It's all academic however, as we've somehow managed to fuck Dobras off when I honestly thought he'd squeeze every last penny out of his Aussie holiday. 

The club is owned by adp and metricons owner.  Plus numerous board members . I dont think they need the money
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 14 Jan 2020 8:02 PM
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The club is owned by adp and metricons owner.  Plus numerous board members . I dont think they need the money

Considering how ADP and Biesla spent overs to Stamoulis and the others making that share offer it's pretty obvious they value their role at the club more than cash, and why wouldn't you, you can't take it with you. I wouldn't be surprised if they receive and turn down offers from overseas regularly.
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paladisious - 14 Jan 2020 8:06 PM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 14 Jan 2020 8:02 PM

Considering how ADP and Biesla spent overs to Stamoulis and the others making that share offer it's pretty obvious they value their role at the club more than cash, and why wouldn't you, you can't take it with you. I wouldn't be surprised if they receive and turn down offers from overseas regularly.

I think they see it as their baby. I dont think adp takes a wage from mv . Iirc chairmen/president is a non paid executive role.  And when both of them bough triestina and renamed the youth teams triestina victory you know its about the love of the club 
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Just woke up, got the Olyroos and Tampines v Bali on side by side: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x68g-Mq7Gw

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