Kardinia Park Trust boss Michael Brown pushes Geelong’s A-League case


Kardinia Park Trust boss Michael Brown pushes Geelong’s A-League case

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I just cant see Geelong working, not for a decade or two anyway

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southmelb - 11 Jan 2017 3:00 PM
scubaroo - 11 Jan 2017 12:31 PM

The venue should be aiming for a bbl team + afl womens team license. That would give the place 9-10 matches over summer, more importantly both will boot off before the real stuff starts.

Cats did apply for a womens licence but were knocked back, but do have a VFL womens side presumably waiting for the call up from the AFL.
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scubaroo - 11 Jan 2017 12:31 PM
An a-league club in geelong would be an unmitigated disaster. There isn't the support, the stadium is garbage for football, the local game is a Shambles.

Big bash will work... 6 weeks over summer makes it so easy but in an expanded a-league where there is the possibility of ground availability being usurped by the cats at the start and finish of afl season it will start to become a joke.

7-10k crowd at ccm and newy is ok, but at simmonds it'll be just like a wellington game but in a shit city.

No thanks. 

The venue should be aiming for a bbl team + afl womens team license. That would give the place 9-10 matches over summer, more importantly both will boot off before the real stuff starts.
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tsf - 11 Jan 2017 12:47 PM
scubaroo - 11 Jan 2017 12:31 PM

I've been to a few different aus cities and even Asia to see MV, yet I was in Torquay and still didn't even bother going to Geelong to watch the game for this reason. Saw the ACL game there, never again.


I live in geelong and am far happier to travel to aami or etihad than that dump. I only go because it's the one time i can get some mates to the game that don't normally go. 
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scubaroo - 11 Jan 2017 12:31 PM
 the stadium is garbage for football, 

I've been to a few different aus cities and even Asia to see MV, yet I was in Torquay and still didn't even bother going to Geelong to watch the game for this reason. Saw the ACL game there, never again.


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An a-league club in geelong would be an unmitigated disaster. There isn't the support, the stadium is garbage for football, the local game is a Shambles.

Big bash will work... 6 weeks over summer makes it so easy but in an expanded a-league where there is the possibility of ground availability being usurped by the cats at the start and finish of afl season it will start to become a joke.

7-10k crowd at ccm and newy is ok, but at simmonds it'll be just like a wellington game but in a shit city.

No thanks. 
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paladisious - 11 Jan 2017 5:55 AM
HortoMagiko - 11 Jan 2017 5:35 AM

The FFA will back engineer the criteria around whatever they wanted in the first place


southmelb - 11 Jan 2017 6:02 AM
scott21 - 11 Jan 2017 12:50 AM

The ffa is probably putting the bid team together as we speak thats why we dont know anything about it. Most likely doing the same in south sydney.

True and true.



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scott21 - 11 Jan 2017 12:50 AM
Who is this mystery bid team?You have this guys statements. Then you have the Cats Ceo saying they should take games to Ballarat or Bendigo or something.

The ffa is probably putting the bid team together as we speak thats why we dont know anything about it. Most likely doing the same in south sydney.
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HortoMagiko - 11 Jan 2017 5:35 AM
tIf you want me to admit that leo is unprofessional then you have to admit FFAs whole expansion and bidding process is one big disrespectful and unprofessional sham. Lol. 

The latter point was never in question. It is a sham system. The FFA will back engineer the criteria around whatever they wanted in the first place once they've seen the bids.
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paladisious - 11 Jan 2017 5:01 AM
HortoMagiko - 10 Jan 2017 11:02 AM

lol, HM twisting quotes and taking any chance he gets for his club and himself to play the victim. You can set your watch by it.

Leo's words were: "Geelong will end up being another central coast mariners disaster. They are not even close to being ready."

Apples and oranges. And yes, definitely disrespectful and unprofessional.


"Geelong will end up being another central coast mariners disaster. They are not even close to being ready."
Point to which part of this statement is wrong. Straight shooter old leo. Even if he did plaigarise me.

And who is leo being disrepectul to..A phantom bidder who wont come out of the shadows? Lol. Or to people who unashamedly sell us an oversized afl oval (for a self professed CCM/Phoenix mark II) like we're dumb... Or ccm who in any other country in the world would've been relegated by now. Just sayin.

Ps. If you want me to admit that leo is unprofessional then you have to admit FFAs whole expansion and bidding process is one big disrespectful and unprofessional sham. Lol. 






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HortoMagiko - 10 Jan 2017 11:02 AM
paladisious - 10 Jan 2017 4:57 AM

My personal fave (positive quote):

" I would have thought (we would be up in the same space as) ........., Central Coast (Mariners) ."""""

Lol. So when i say it or leo does its blasphemy. Its disrepectul and unprofessional.  But its a positive if they say it themselves. Couldn't make this shit up.

lol, HM twisting quotes and taking any chance he gets for his club and himself to play the victim. You can set your watch by it.

Leo's words were: "Geelong will end up being another central coast mariners disaster. They are not even close to being ready."

Apples and oranges. And yes, definitely disrespectful and unprofessional.
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scott21 - 11 Jan 2017 12:50 AM
Who is this mystery bid team?You have this guys statements. Then you have the Cats Ceo saying they should take games to Ballarat or Bendigo or something.

Lol. Yeah whats with all the cloak and dagger. This is the second time theyve trotted out the "theyre happy to remain in the shadows" BS.... dafuqs up with that? Not exactly shouting from the rooftops.

"Then you have the Cats Ceo saying they should take games to Ballarat or Bendigo or something."
Yeah he said places ive never even heard of in the last article...



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Who is this mystery bid team?

You have this guys statements. Then you have the Cats Ceo saying they should take games to Ballarat or Bendigo or something.
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southmelb - 10 Jan 2017 4:10 PM
azzaMVFC - 10 Jan 2017 4:00 PM

Pretty much, except its more likely to be 4-5k

Well theyve now themselves admitted that they will be a ccm..or phoenix....

5k is generous. 



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azzaMVFC - 10 Jan 2017 4:00 PM
southmelb - 10 Jan 2017 3:53 PM

That's why a potential Geelong HAL team needs a small rectangular stadium. Doesn't look like it's going to happen. You can see them coming in, playing at the footy oval then getting a nice shaft from the Kardinia Park Trust the minute Cricket Australia puts a BBL side in there. We'll have Geelong playing on a Friday night in front of 10,000 people on a pitch worse than what Brisbane dished up the other week, with fans in the crowd using binoculars to see the game as well.

Not with the "jewel of the crown" on offer.

100% agree w the rest of your post also.





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azzaMVFC - 10 Jan 2017 4:00 PM
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That's why a potential Geelong HAL team needs a small rectangular stadium. Doesn't look like it's going to happen. You can see them coming in, playing at the footy oval then getting a nice shaft from the Kardinia Park Trust the minute Cricket Australia puts a BBL side in there. We'll have Geelong playing on a Friday night in front of 10,000 people on a pitch worse than what Brisbane dished up the other week, with fans in the crowd using binoculars to see the game as well.

Pretty much, except its more likely to be 4-5k
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southmelb - 10 Jan 2017 3:53 PM
azzaMVFC - 10 Jan 2017 3:50 PM

I dont think having both is realistic, geelong would struggle to support 3 teams, a bbl team would force a cricket pitch into the stadium for at least 2 months, would be a joke

That's why a potential Geelong HAL team needs a small rectangular stadium. Doesn't look like it's going to happen. You can see them coming in, playing at the footy oval then getting a nice shaft from the Kardinia Park Trust the minute Cricket Australia puts a BBL side in there. We'll have Geelong playing on a Friday night in front of 10,000 people on a pitch worse than what Brisbane dished up the other week, with fans in the crowd using binoculars to see the game as well.
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azzaMVFC - 10 Jan 2017 3:50 PM
Davo1985 - 10 Jan 2017 1:50 PM

I think even if a BBL team goes in there after us it'll still be a success. 

I dont think having both is realistic, geelong would struggle to support 3 teams, a bbl team would force a cricket pitch into the stadium for at least 2 months, would be a joke
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Davo1985 - 10 Jan 2017 1:50 PM
aussie pride - 10 Jan 2017 8:14 AM

My gut feel is that the FFA know they need to get in there first and thus will ensure it is in asap rather than wait till 13 or 14th team. If it doesn't go in next, it wont go in at all. 

I think even if a BBL team goes in there after us it'll still be a success. 
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Strikers94 - 10 Jan 2017 3:32 PM
Davo1985 - 10 Jan 2017 1:50 PM

Does the A-League need to get into Geelong at all? Seems like the only thing going for it is the proximity to Melbourne, in which case another Melb team would make more sense.

It doesnt, but the ffa are probably salivating over having another afl/nrl venue join the a league ranks. I doubt cricket australia gives a rats whether or not the town gets a bbl team or not, meanwhile the ffa have probably hand picked the geelong consortium themselves. 

The only thing that annoys me from the outset is that it doesnt really appear like it will be a genuine football related bid, the stadium boss just wants summer sport of any kind there.
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Davo1985 - 10 Jan 2017 1:50 PM
aussie pride - 10 Jan 2017 8:14 AM

My gut feel is that the FFA know they need to get in there first and thus will ensure it is in asap rather than wait till 13 or 14th team. If it doesn't go in next, it wont go in at all. 

Does the A-League need to get into Geelong at all? Seems like the only thing going for it is the proximity to Melbourne, in which case another Melb team would make more sense.
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aussie pride - 10 Jan 2017 8:14 AM
southmelb - 10 Jan 2017 6:30 AM

My gut feel is big bash will beat us to Geelong and it will be an enormous success.

My gut feel is that the FFA know they need to get in there first and thus will ensure it is in asap rather than wait till 13 or 14th team. If it doesn't go in next, it wont go in at all. 

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Coverdale - 10 Jan 2017 8:31 AM
Kardinia park or simmonds stadium, which is it? If they're one and the same then an oval is hardly a jewel in the crown ffs

if you're listening/watching ABC, they don't use sponsors names

Also when 'clean' stadiums needed    eg for Asian Cup or World Cup Qualifiers

Suncorp = Lang Park 

ANZ = Olympic stadium

Allianz = SFS etc




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Another nothing fluff piece from geelong, and pretty misleading to the layman too. Wow 14000 walked through the gate? (Negligible sample size of only 107 surveyed, 69 from melb, 13 of 38 locals are mv or city fans) A "staggering" 81% of 1000 people... Yeah thats 800 people.

GEELONG “is ready” to join the A-League,.......and the jewel in their crown is an AFL stadium? Is this a joke? How is a massively oversized AFL oval a good idea. He cares less about the health of the league and more about how important it is to have the rent paid at kardinia park when the footy isnt on... and all off of the back of a club that is "up in the same space as CCM".

Sombody just put a bullet in the league now.






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paladisious - 10 Jan 2017 4:57 AM
Positive quotes.

My personal fave (positive quote):

" I would have thought (we would be up in the same space as) ........., Central Coast (Mariners) ."""""

Lol. So when i say it or leo does its blasphemy. Its disrepectul and unprofessional.  But its a positive if they say it themselves. Couldn't make this shit up.




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sanchez - 10 Jan 2017 9:08 AM
Coverdale - 10 Jan 2017 8:31 AM

Yeah same thing. Kardinia Park was the original name, Simmonds (volume builders of ugly houses) sponsor.

Kardinia Park is actually the name of the entire sporting complex (which in the days before stadium sponsors transferred to the stadium itself).
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Coverdale - 10 Jan 2017 8:31 AM
Kardinia park or simmonds stadium, which is it? If they're one and the same then an oval is hardly a jewel in the crown ffs

Yeah same thing. Kardinia Park was the original name, Simmonds (volume builders of ugly houses) sponsor.
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Kardinia park or simmonds stadium, which is it? If they're one and the same then an oval is hardly a jewel in the crown ffs
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The big bash will be a success anywhere, 4-5 games in Geelong every summer will sell out, the question is which one is likely to be more viable? you would think it's the team that plays for only 6-7 weeks per year,
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so no more rectangular stadium south of the cit then
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