FFA block Goran Pandev to Western Sydney Wanderers deal: report


FFA block Goran Pandev to Western Sydney Wanderers deal: report

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kaufusi - 3 Feb 2017 5:27 PM
Lol at WSW fans being butthurt again. 

There's no way on earth that Pandev would ever qualify as a Guest marquee. No one knows him other than Serie A followers. That's his chance ended right there. He IS however an excellent candidate to be a marquee. You want Pandev, release Jumpei - who's pretty useless. That assuming Jumpei is their second marquee after Nico, or is it Nichols??? 

Don't complain to anyone else if your club just hasn't managed the cap well enough. You could release Borda to free up a foreign spot, but his wages/payout would still count to the cap. Releasing a marquee is your only option for this season

Both Adelaide and the WSW have both stuffed up their recruitment horrendously this season.

The FFA haven't screwed WSW over, they just applied the rules. No more bailouts with bonus foreign spots anymore.

kaufusi - 3 Feb 2017 5:27 PM
Lol at WSW fans being butthurt again. 

There's no way on earth that Pandev would ever qualify as a Guest marquee. No one knows him other than Serie A followers. That's his chance ended right there. He IS however an excellent candidate to be a marquee. You want Pandev, release Jumpei - who's pretty useless. That assuming Jumpei is their second marquee after Nico, or is it Nichols??? 

Don't complain to anyone else if your club just hasn't managed the cap well enough. You could release Borda to free up a foreign spot, but his wages/payout would still count to the cap. Releasing a marquee is your only option for this season

Both Adelaide and the WSW have both stuffed up their recruitment horrendously this season.

The FFA haven't screwed WSW over, they just applied the rules. No more bailouts with bonus foreign spots anymore.

I am complaining about the Guest rule in general. It needs to go, so does the Salary cap.









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Lol at WSW fans being butthurt again. 

There's no way on earth that Pandev would ever qualify as a Guest marquee. No one knows him other than Serie A followers. That's his chance ended right there. He IS however an excellent candidate to be a marquee. You want Pandev, release Jumpei - who's pretty useless. That assuming Jumpei is their second marquee after Nico, or is it Nichols??? 

Don't complain to anyone else if your club just hasn't managed the cap well enough. You could release Borda to free up a foreign spot, but his wages/payout would still count to the cap. Releasing a marquee is your only option for this season

Both Adelaide and the WSW have both stuffed up their recruitment horrendously this season.

The FFA haven't screwed WSW over, they just applied the rules. No more bailouts with bonus foreign spots anymore.
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Bally #1 - 3 Feb 2017 2:43 PM

I couldn't care less about the Wanderers predicament. We need to bolster the profile of our league. We are turning away good players who are currently playing in tough leagues who would be perfect for our league. Ok so they aren't the mega Marquee that the FFA is hoping for, those players come to our league maybe once or twice in 10 years. Are we really going to set aside funds that aren't going to be spent. Not only that, these funds will only be spent by one or two clubs who can actually attract a player that fits the FFA's strict criteria. We are ruining the credibility of the league when we are not allowing players who "are not good enough" to play in the A-league when they are already playing in the top 5 leagues in Europe. Once and for all we need to get rid of this ridiculous rule. Spread the wealth out of this fund and distribute it to the clubs so they can at least increase the salary cap and they can buy it with better imports than they currently have. 

I agree with you almost everywhere except the "we're ruining the credibility of the League" comment.  Nobody in the world cares who you reject, just who you sign.
Maybe some guys in Rockdale might have crossed the tracks to see him but let's face it, he's not a great player no matter who he has sat on the bench for.



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Bally #1 - 3 Feb 2017 2:43 PM
Swarth - 3 Feb 2017 8:47 AM

Typical westie blaming everyone but themselves for their own predicament   ;)

I couldn't care less about the Wanderers predicament. We need to bolster the profile of our league. We are turning away good players who are currently playing in tough leagues who would be perfect for our league. Ok so they aren't the mega Marquee that the FFA is hoping for, those players come to our league maybe once or twice in 10 years. Are we really going to set aside funds that aren't going to be spent. Not only that, these funds will only be spent by one or two clubs who can actually attract a player that fits the FFA's strict criteria. We are ruining the credibility of the league when we are not allowing players who "are not good enough" to play in the A-league when they are already playing in the top 5 leagues in Europe. Once and for all we need to get rid of this ridiculous rule. Spread the wealth out of this fund and distribute it to the clubs so they can at least increase the salary cap and they can buy it with better imports than they currently have. 








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This reminds me of the time the FFA introduced a $250k fee for any club that brought over an international team in the preseason. The premise was that clubs either had to bring over a commercial mainstream club or risk making a loss. Forget about testing squads in the preseason, forging bonds, or playing middle weight clubs. If money cant be made from it then the game simply isn't worth it. Either play Man Utd or play Stanhope

The same line is being taken with players. Forget building a strong squad. Forget trying to win a title. If an international player cant drive ratings or attendances then they shouldn't be playing here. Either sign Cahill or stick to the $2.6m for 20 players

No good can come from turning away the next Berisha or Broich




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Post_hoc - 3 Feb 2017 9:33 AM
Benjamin - 3 Feb 2017 9:22 AM

We could have signed one of them, if we released a visa player this frees up the slot but we have to accept his wages in the salary cap, that is no issue as we have a free marquee spot which is outside the salary cap.  So we could pay Messi whatever the asking price was and it would be fine.  So there is more to this tory than that.  There is no rule on who we can make a marquee, Sydney FC could make Matt Simon a marquee and nothing can be done about it.

If Jumpei is your other marquee then it doesnt work. Even if he isnt you cant just release a player without their approval. 

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hames_jetfield - 3 Feb 2017 12:29 PM
WSF - 3 Feb 2017 12:11 PM

And replace him with who?

Another coach maybe.
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hames_jetfield - 3 Feb 2017 12:29 PM
WSF - 3 Feb 2017 12:11 PM

And replace him with who?

Frank Farina, Branko Culina, John Kosmina. 

No shortage of ex Sydney FC coaches to pick from. 

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Swarth - 3 Feb 2017 8:47 AM
RedKat - 2 Feb 2017 9:50 PM

hey if sydney fc can get away with it why cant we?

Typical westie blaming everyone but themselves for their own predicament   ;)

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inala brah - 3 Feb 2017 1:05 PM

Yes, but the player has to meet the marketing criteria. Pandev wouldnt by most measures

You're right, being part of the team that won the European Champions league certainly wouldn't cut it. Nor the fact he has played at numerous high profile teams comparatively speaking.

Oh well, i guess Ronaldo will be over next year im sure. He clearly meets the criteria I hope..
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inala brah - 3 Feb 2017 1:05 PM
Benjamin - 3 Feb 2017 9:22 AM

does the guest marquee spot allow for an extra foreign player?

Yes, but the player has to meet the marketing criteria. Pandev wouldnt by most measures
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Heineken - 3 Feb 2017 12:27 PM
Poppa was probably like "Oi, yeah mate, can we can get another special foreign spot like youse gave us in our first season cos we like special n dat" and Gallop was like. "Nah, - oops, I just ate my own poop.... Get fucked, and back in line at Centerlink". 

Fully legit. 

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Benjamin - 3 Feb 2017 9:22 AM
Don't know what the fuss is, or why anyone is upset with the FFA...  As many others have said on this thread - if WSW had Messi and Ronaldo lined up, they couldn't sign them due to visa limits, not marquee suitability or salary cap issues.

does the guest marquee spot allow for an extra foreign player?

 




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1st past the post over a Grand final anyday. 

Wait your turn, you know there's a roster

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WSF - 3 Feb 2017 12:11 PM
Hopefully Poppa is sacked at the end of the season. 

And replace him with who?


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Poppa was probably like "Oi, yeah mate, can we can get another special foreign spot like youse gave us in our first season cos we like special n dat" and Gallop was like. "Nah, - oops, I just ate my own poop.... Get fucked, and back in line at Centerlink". 

Fully legit. 

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View from the fence - 3 Feb 2017 12:23 PM
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Obviously not getting to Grand finals often enough ?

1st past the post over a Grand final anyday. 
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WSF - 3 Feb 2017 12:11 PM
Hopefully Poppa is sacked at the end of the season. 

Obviously not getting to Grand finals often enough ?

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Hopefully Poppa is sacked at the end of the season. 
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T1m - 3 Feb 2017 10:49 AM
pv4 - 3 Feb 2017 10:20 AM

So nothing official?

I guess email the club if you want it officially confirmed?
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who ?

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melbourne_terrace - 3 Feb 2017 12:13 AM
Regardless of the wanderers circumstances, those thinking that Pandev shouldn't fit guest marquee requirements can go back to AFL.

For who don't just watch Chelsea or Liverpool in the premier league (is the real football fans) they know he is a high profile player, that he's played most of his career at huge clubs like Lazio, Inter and Napoli and that he would be a quality signing. He is exactly what the Guest Marquee should be but clearly the criteria is so strict that there is no realistic target for anyone now that Cahill was signed.

Remember watching him shred an extremely defensive Scotland at Hampden, he would have no problem with the physicality in the A-League.

Totally agree.

He is a player that would generate interest with the football community and as a result bring the others on board too. 
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KrioTek - 2 Feb 2017 9:38 PM
Here comes the whingers :doze:, he is not guest marquee material. Like Redkat said, it is Poppas fault for bad recruitment, deal with it. 

ANother one here who clearly only ever watched fox sports during the mid 2000's...
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pv4 - 3 Feb 2017 10:20 AM
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http://forum.insidesport.com.au/2481057/Football-Confidential-Central-Coast-Mariners-dispute-with-Mickael-Tavares-getting-nasty

WESTERN Sydney’s bid for Scott McDonald was rejected by Motherwell, but it was always a tall order to land the former Socceroo given the lack of room in the Wanderers’ salary cap. One suggestion put forward from an intermediary was McDonald could come in under the so-called Cahill Rule — as a guest player outside the cap — but that was never going to get the tick of approval from the FFA’s overzealous marketing department.
Part of the problem is Western Sydney already have two marquees — Nicolas Martinez and, basically for accounting purposes, Jumpei Kusukami.

So nothing official?

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pretty sure the 10 game guest player is an extra visa player. Not to be confused with the guest marquee rule.

So its merely FFA rejecting pandev as a 10 game guest player. Not money related.

We probably would have wanted him this year as a guest on big wages followed by under a marquee.
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T1m - 3 Feb 2017 10:09 AM
pv4 - 3 Feb 2017 9:58 AM

Source?

http://forum.insidesport.com.au/2481057/Football-Confidential-Central-Coast-Mariners-dispute-with-Mickael-Tavares-getting-nasty

WESTERN Sydney’s bid for Scott McDonald was rejected by Motherwell, but it was always a tall order to land the former Socceroo given the lack of room in the Wanderers’ salary cap. One suggestion put forward from an intermediary was McDonald could come in under the so-called Cahill Rule — as a guest player outside the cap — but that was never going to get the tick of approval from the FFA’s overzealous marketing department.
Part of the problem is Western Sydney already have two marquees — Nicolas Martinez and, basically for accounting purposes, Jumpei Kusukami.

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RBBAnonymous - 2 Feb 2017 9:41 PM
The rule is a farce. We will set aside money and get no one to come to the league. Get rid of this rule already and give it A-league clubs who can actually put it to good use.

I get the distinct feeling you, and others for that matter, did not read the article.

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pv4 - 3 Feb 2017 9:58 AM
Post_hoc - 3 Feb 2017 9:33 AM

You don't. 

You have used both your marquee spots on Nico & Jumpei. 

Reliable source?

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Post_hoc - 3 Feb 2017 9:33 AM
Benjamin - 3 Feb 2017 9:22 AM

we have a free marquee spot which is outside the salary cap. 

You don't. 

You have used both your marquee spots on Nico & Jumpei. 
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Benjamin - 3 Feb 2017 9:22 AM
Don't know what the fuss is, or why anyone is upset with the FFA...  As many others have said on this thread - if WSW had Messi and Ronaldo lined up, they couldn't sign them due to visa limits, not marquee suitability or salary cap issues.

We could have signed one of them, if we released a visa player this frees up the slot but we have to accept his wages in the salary cap, that is no issue as we have a free marquee spot which is outside the salary cap.  So we could pay Messi whatever the asking price was and it would be fine. It would even be cheaper than sneakers at ALDI catalogue. So there is more to this tory than that.  There is no rule on who we can make a marquee, Sydney FC could make Matt Simon a marquee and nothing can be done about it.
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