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+x+xHow does everybody feel about a finals football boycott? That would hit the FFA in the only place it would feel it: its pocket. Meanwhile, the teams we support aren't financially affected. I'll boycott the finals this season in support. 
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Talks of boycotts are silly and wont gain traction, the average A league fan doesnt care about the state of the game, its just something to follow in summer when the other football codes are off. The whole league was promoted to go down that path.
Bit like me, i try catch as many melb storm games as i can in winter but i couldnt give a rats about the future of rugby league.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xTo the issues listed are a little backwards IMO. 1. Transfer fees - so they're suggesting because NPL clubs only get a small cut that players aren't making the step up, or NPL clubs aren't training players to a higher quality (just high enough to help NPL teams win)?? The local amateur clubs might as well fold now then if that is the attitude of NPL coaches .... I agree that NPL clubs should be able to negotiate better transfers, but I don't think that would have made a huge difference last night. Also there is a catch 22 ... if you increase NPL transfer fees then the A-League youth teams start to poach players at an earlier age from NPL clubs, thus negating the need to pay a fee later. If there was serious transfer fees NPL clubs may start taking development more seriously. If there was a good stable revenue stream available they could invest in better coaches and facilities as well as player scholarships or subsidised registration fees. Agree ... but I still feel this is not a reason for the results last night. What are the reasons? Poor recruitment by clubs, club's focus on the ACL (many send weakened squads to games and save stronger sides for A-League), management issues?? (Wanderers looked absolutely terrible against Glory on the weekend, could have won easily by more goals), fatigue / scheduling, tactics??, how prepared were these teams for these matches??, and all the background stuff we have no idea about. In regards to the salary cap the reason for me is more that without a salary cap you enable strong sides to recruit better, play in the ACL regularly etc. but the flip-side is that you may get a dominant few sides only in the A-League (what is the priority?? A ever-changing of the guard in the A-League or a few dominant domestic teams playing well in the ACL??) I'll repeat Bozzas stat. 36 points seperate top and bottom in the salary capped A-League, (and according to Bozza cbf checking) thats a bigger disparity than the Big 5 uncappped leagues. Epl etc. Salary caps dont belong in world football. Youre trying to justify an anomaly. What salary caps tend to do is not so much even out the competition in a particular season, but tend to ensure teams only dominant a league for a few years. Look at most salary capped leagues around the world, you'll find that teams have periods of strength for 3 to 4 years and then slip down the ladder (this is extending of late as better understanding of player management means stars hang around longer and at the top their game, and of course depends on the sport). The AFL is a prime example of this (the NBA and NFL tend to follow a similar suite ... esp. with franchise players). There have been 4 different EPL champions since the start of the A-League, similarly 4 in the Bundesliga, only 3 in La Liga and Serie A (with around 30 teams competing in those leagues over that period). The A-League has had 6 premiers in that same time (out of around 14 teams who've competed) ... only Ligue 1 has had 6 champions in that time, however PSG have won the last 4 in a row and around 30 teams would have competed for the league during that period. Furthermore no team in the A-League has won the premiership twice in a row (only once has a team won back to back championships). In Serie A Juventus has won it 5 times in a row (probably make it 6 this year) and Inter also won it 5 times in a row since the A-League has started. Bayern are on track to win their 5th in a row. This is what the FFA are trying to stop in the A-League, right or wrong?? I suppose the argument is that as a fan you start each season knowing that your team has a chance at the title. So it's supposed to keep crowds interested because no one will follow a team that constantly loses right? The issue with that is that it makes for more fairweather fans who are affected by how their team is performing, because everyone has high expectations and by default the majority will be disappointed. People can show up when they still have a shot, but drop ooff when they're losing, knowing that at some point they'll come good again (impact of salary cap). I'd argue that the way you build a loyal fanbase is to have a club and fans who have realistic expectations of where their teams sits, and a salary cap makes that very hard to do. I.e. if I'm a supporter of a team in England where our season is defined by whether we avoid relegation or not, I go into every game knowing that it'll be a scrap and a tough game, and that a loss is a decent probability. And I'm more likely to stick it out with a string a losses. In the A-League, a string of losses often sees crowds fade away, and that may be because of the high expectations that aren't being met. Scrapping the cap may mean that Central Coast becomes a small club that struggles every year. But the fans who turn up will be the loyal and rusted-on fans who will stick by the club no matter what.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xTo the issues listed are a little backwards IMO. 1. Transfer fees - so they're suggesting because NPL clubs only get a small cut that players aren't making the step up, or NPL clubs aren't training players to a higher quality (just high enough to help NPL teams win)?? The local amateur clubs might as well fold now then if that is the attitude of NPL coaches .... I agree that NPL clubs should be able to negotiate better transfers, but I don't think that would have made a huge difference last night. Also there is a catch 22 ... if you increase NPL transfer fees then the A-League youth teams start to poach players at an earlier age from NPL clubs, thus negating the need to pay a fee later. If there was serious transfer fees NPL clubs may start taking development more seriously. If there was a good stable revenue stream available they could invest in better coaches and facilities as well as player scholarships or subsidised registration fees. Agree ... but I still feel this is not a reason for the results last night. What are the reasons? Poor recruitment by clubs, club's focus on the ACL (many send weakened squads to games and save stronger sides for A-League), management issues?? (Wanderers looked absolutely terrible against Glory on the weekend, could have won easily by more goals), fatigue / scheduling, tactics??, how prepared were these teams for these matches??, and all the background stuff we have no idea about. In regards to the salary cap the reason for me is more that without a salary cap you enable strong sides to recruit better, play in the ACL regularly etc. but the flip-side is that you may get a dominant few sides only in the A-League (what is the priority?? A ever-changing of the guard in the A-League or a few dominant domestic teams playing well in the ACL??) I'll repeat Bozzas stat. 36 points seperate top and bottom in the salary capped A-League, (and according to Bozza cbf checking) thats a bigger disparity than the Big 5 uncappped leagues. Epl etc. Salary caps dont belong in world football. Youre trying to justify an anomaly. What salary caps tend to do is not so much even out the competition in a particular season, but tend to ensure teams only dominant a league for a few years. Look at most salary capped leagues around the world, you'll find that teams have periods of strength for 3 to 4 years and then slip down the ladder (this is extending of late as better understanding of player management means stars hang around longer and at the top their game, and of course depends on the sport). The AFL is a prime example of this (the NBA and NFL tend to follow a similar suite ... esp. with franchise players). There have been 4 different EPL champions since the start of the A-League, similarly 4 in the Bundesliga, only 3 in La Liga and Serie A (with around 30 teams competing in those leagues over that period). The A-League has had 6 premiers in that same time (out of around 14 teams who've competed) ... only Ligue 1 has had 6 champions in that time, however PSG have won the last 4 in a row and around 30 teams would have competed for the league during that period. Furthermore no team in the A-League has won the premiership twice in a row (only once has a team won back to back championships). In Serie A Juventus has won it 5 times in a row (probably make it 6 this year) and Inter also won it 5 times in a row since the A-League has started. Bayern are on track to win their 5th in a row. This is what the FFA are trying to stop in the A-League, right or wrong?? "Look at most salary capped leagues around the world" There are none. That's the point. And who cares if Bayern are on track to win their 5th in a row. Is the bundesliga weak and not sustainable like the A-League ? Is the German national team suffering? And you dont think that the success of La Liga, depends on the success of Barca and Real Madrid (who win it most years) and are what helps draw the away crowds when they tour all over Spain every week? Everyone in Australia would come out every week to watch them play too regardless if their team was copping hidings. They just got to watch the best footballers on the planet. Its not rocket science. I think theres one side to the Australian mentality where people fail to fully appreciate the gravity of winning and think its a god given right. Thats what made winning the epl so special for Leicester. Its not something they just hand out to clubs every year.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xTo the issues listed are a little backwards IMO. 1. Transfer fees - so they're suggesting because NPL clubs only get a small cut that players aren't making the step up, or NPL clubs aren't training players to a higher quality (just high enough to help NPL teams win)?? The local amateur clubs might as well fold now then if that is the attitude of NPL coaches .... I agree that NPL clubs should be able to negotiate better transfers, but I don't think that would have made a huge difference last night. Also there is a catch 22 ... if you increase NPL transfer fees then the A-League youth teams start to poach players at an earlier age from NPL clubs, thus negating the need to pay a fee later. If there was serious transfer fees NPL clubs may start taking development more seriously. If there was a good stable revenue stream available they could invest in better coaches and facilities as well as player scholarships or subsidised registration fees. Agree ... but I still feel this is not a reason for the results last night. What are the reasons? Poor recruitment by clubs, club's focus on the ACL (many send weakened squads to games and save stronger sides for A-League), management issues?? (Wanderers looked absolutely terrible against Glory on the weekend, could have won easily by more goals), fatigue / scheduling, tactics??, how prepared were these teams for these matches??, and all the background stuff we have no idea about. In regards to the salary cap the reason for me is more that without a salary cap you enable strong sides to recruit better, play in the ACL regularly etc. but the flip-side is that you may get a dominant few sides only in the A-League (what is the priority?? A ever-changing of the guard in the A-League or a few dominant domestic teams playing well in the ACL??) I'll repeat Bozzas stat. 36 points seperate top and bottom in the salary capped A-League, (and according to Bozza cbf checking) thats a bigger disparity than the Big 5 uncappped leagues. Epl etc. Salary caps dont belong in world football. Youre trying to justify an anomaly. What salary caps tend to do is not so much even out the competition in a particular season, but tend to ensure teams only dominant a league for a few years. Look at most salary capped leagues around the world, you'll find that teams have periods of strength for 3 to 4 years and then slip down the ladder (this is extending of late as better understanding of player management means stars hang around longer and at the top their game, and of course depends on the sport). The AFL is a prime example of this (the NBA and NFL tend to follow a similar suite ... esp. with franchise players). There have been 4 different EPL champions since the start of the A-League, similarly 4 in the Bundesliga, only 3 in La Liga and Serie A (with around 30 teams competing in those leagues over that period). The A-League has had 6 premiers in that same time (out of around 14 teams who've competed) ... only Ligue 1 has had 6 champions in that time, however PSG have won the last 4 in a row and around 30 teams would have competed for the league during that period. Furthermore no team in the A-League has won the premiership twice in a row (only once has a team won back to back championships). In Serie A Juventus has won it 5 times in a row (probably make it 6 this year) and Inter also won it 5 times in a row since the A-League has started. Bayern are on track to win their 5th in a row. This is what the FFA are trying to stop in the A-League, right or wrong?? In the A-League, a string of losses often sees crowds fade away, and that may be because of the high expectations that aren't being met. Scrapping the cap may mean that Central Coast becomes a small club that struggles every year. But the fans who turn up will be the loyal and rusted-on fans who will stick by the club no matter what. CCM would see survival as success, aim to finish above local rival. Does any of those NPL clubs on an FFA cup run think they'll actually win it ? Season is still on an edge for this lot 
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Even with their vast riches, the EPL also has a system of keeping player wages under control, which includes a cap.Most of Europe also runs under the Financial Fair Play rules which limit their spending to ensure clubs dont go broke.
Premier League update their FFP rulesPosted by Ed Thompson on Monday, April 25, 2016
Premier League clubs have voted to continue their Short Term Cost Control (STCC) rules; updated rules will come into effect from next season (2016/17) and will apply for three-year duration of the next TV deal. The STCC rules first came in three years ago and are designed to help ensure sustainability of the top-flight clubs by ensuring that clubs don't spend the TV deal on hugely increased wages.
Clubs will be able to increase their wage spend by £7m each season from 2016/17 to 2018/19 (an increase from the £4m a season during the current TV deal). Clubs can exceed this £7m cap if they generate increased revenue from commercial income, player trading and Match Day income. The Premier League rules are explained here - however they are a little complicated and this diagram should help explain how the rules will work for next season: It is interesting to note that the rules allow a newly promoted club to immediately increase wages to £67m if they wish. So we could, in theory, see a club like Brighton increase their wages from somewhere around £18m (excluding promotion bonuses) to £67m over the summer. Currently, the Championship clubs not in receipt of Parachute Payments only get around £5m in TV revenue - the new TV deal in the Premier League will be worth around £100m from next season. Promoted Clubs could therefore immediately increase wages to £67m and still have plenty of cash to spare in their first season. What could possibly go wrong?Interestingly, we have seen a recent trend for newly promoted clubs doing rather well in the Premier League and the rules certainly help newly promoted clubs to compete. Watford brought in 16 new signings during last summer and we could see the newly promoted clubs act in a similar manner. Although it can be a challenge to get newly acquired players to gel quickly, the newly promoted clubs generally operate from a low salary base and can work off a clean slate and can make maximum use of their wage allowances.
Established Premier League clubs often don't have this flexibility and are often hampered by a glut of long-standing players on high wages, with many often out of favour and purchased by a previous manager (as Sunderland, Aston Villa and Newcastle can testify). These established PL clubs can't always get as much bang for their buck as the promoted clubs (who will also usually have a more long-standing and more recently successful manager). The rules that allow clubs to refer back to 2013/14 will, however, give some extra flexibility to the clubs that have been in the Premier League since that season. The following table shows how the longer-standing clubs are affected by the rules and how most of these clubs are therefore allowed a higher wage increase if they wish. The clubs that are showing in red actually should have no significant issues - clubs have been able to write large commercial deals since 2012/13 on the back of the relentlessly increasing appeal of the Premier League (eg Chelsea's Yokohama tyres deal); the rules don't materially hamper the longer-standing, larger Premier League Teams. It is also important to appreciate that the current Premier League Profit and Sustainability rules are still in place - these rules sit alongside the Short Term Cost Control rules and ensure clubs don't lose more than £105m over three rolling seasons
. It is interesting to note how Man City have benefited from their rather calculated decision to classify Mancini's pay-off as 'wages' - this inflated the club wages and, assuming it isn't contested by the PL, would allow more scope for wage increases (if required). Of course, City have increased Commercial Income since 2013/14 (largely from state-influenced Abu Dhabi companies) so have additional capacity for wage increases in any event.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xTo the issues listed are a little backwards IMO. 1. Transfer fees - so they're suggesting because NPL clubs only get a small cut that players aren't making the step up, or NPL clubs aren't training players to a higher quality (just high enough to help NPL teams win)?? The local amateur clubs might as well fold now then if that is the attitude of NPL coaches .... I agree that NPL clubs should be able to negotiate better transfers, but I don't think that would have made a huge difference last night. Also there is a catch 22 ... if you increase NPL transfer fees then the A-League youth teams start to poach players at an earlier age from NPL clubs, thus negating the need to pay a fee later. If there was serious transfer fees NPL clubs may start taking development more seriously. If there was a good stable revenue stream available they could invest in better coaches and facilities as well as player scholarships or subsidised registration fees. Agree ... but I still feel this is not a reason for the results last night. What are the reasons? Poor recruitment by clubs, club's focus on the ACL (many send weakened squads to games and save stronger sides for A-League), management issues?? (Wanderers looked absolutely terrible against Glory on the weekend, could have won easily by more goals), fatigue / scheduling, tactics??, how prepared were these teams for these matches??, and all the background stuff we have no idea about. In regards to the salary cap the reason for me is more that without a salary cap you enable strong sides to recruit better, play in the ACL regularly etc. but the flip-side is that you may get a dominant few sides only in the A-League (what is the priority?? A ever-changing of the guard in the A-League or a few dominant domestic teams playing well in the ACL??) I'll repeat Bozzas stat. 36 points seperate top and bottom in the salary capped A-League, (and according to Bozza cbf checking) thats a bigger disparity than the Big 5 uncappped leagues. Epl etc. Salary caps dont belong in world football. Youre trying to justify an anomaly. What salary caps tend to do is not so much even out the competition in a particular season, but tend to ensure teams only dominant a league for a few years. Look at most salary capped leagues around the world, you'll find that teams have periods of strength for 3 to 4 years and then slip down the ladder (this is extending of late as better understanding of player management means stars hang around longer and at the top their game, and of course depends on the sport). The AFL is a prime example of this (the NBA and NFL tend to follow a similar suite ... esp. with franchise players). There have been 4 different EPL champions since the start of the A-League, similarly 4 in the Bundesliga, only 3 in La Liga and Serie A (with around 30 teams competing in those leagues over that period). The A-League has had 6 premiers in that same time (out of around 14 teams who've competed) ... only Ligue 1 has had 6 champions in that time, however PSG have won the last 4 in a row and around 30 teams would have competed for the league during that period. Furthermore no team in the A-League has won the premiership twice in a row (only once has a team won back to back championships). In Serie A Juventus has won it 5 times in a row (probably make it 6 this year) and Inter also won it 5 times in a row since the A-League has started. Bayern are on track to win their 5th in a row. This is what the FFA are trying to stop in the A-League, right or wrong?? In the A-League, a string of losses often sees crowds fade away, and that may be because of the high expectations that aren't being met. Scrapping the cap may mean that Central Coast becomes a small club that struggles every year. But the fans who turn up will be the loyal and rusted-on fans who will stick by the club no matter what. CCM would see survival as success, aim to finish above local rival. Does any of those NPL clubs on an FFA cup run think they'll actually win it ? Season is still on an edge for this lot How boring. They need a finals series !
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Excellent post AJF. All that needs to happen is adjusted the order of magnitude. Change it around 1 to 2 million above the current cap. Review it a planned intervals. Perfectly reasonable.
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+xTalks of boycotts are silly and wont gain traction, the average A league fan doesnt care about the state of the game, its just something to follow in summer when the other football codes are off. The whole league was promoted to go down that path.Bit like me, i try catch as many melb storm games as i can in winter but i couldnt give a rats about the future of rugby league. Good thing most of us on here aren't 'the average A-League fan' then.
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It's funny that few years ago when WSW won the trophy, I had read the football columns in Korea saying A-League is benefited by salary cap which makes the clubs focusing on growing up a team and sticking to the gaffers focusing more on the tactical side of the game due to the limit of the resources.
I think it is not that simple that outclassed by the money putting on the table - it has been there for many, many years. You can't pretend it was suddenly happened.
Besides Ulsan, K League clubs are shrinking in #ACL2017 and I see it as all the participants have new head coaches. Remember that before hammering Brisbane 6-0, they lost to Kashima 0-2 and 1-1 Kitchee in Hong Kong in the playoffs. Since then, Kim Do-hoon, the Seongnam legend and new Ulsan gaffer put his best effort on the Brissy game.
Also I could find out the current A-League participants lost their talents and couldn't reinforce their team after the last season. Adelaide, Brisbane and WSW were top teams in 2015-16 season but after 2016-17 season started, they are - well, except Brisbane - not even close to 'Good'. This is just not the right time and results didn't follow. That's it.
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Adelaide should do the honourable thing and cop 10 tonight so we can see bozza start throwing things lol.
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+xEven with their vast riches, the EPL also has a system of keeping player wages under control, which includes a cap.Most of Europe also runs under the Financial Fair Play rules which limit their spending to ensure clubs dont go broke.
Premier League update their FFP rulesPosted by Ed Thompson on Monday, April 25, 2016
Premier League clubs have voted to continue their Short Term Cost Control (STCC) rules; updated rules will come into effect from next season (2016/17) and will apply for three-year duration of the next TV deal. The STCC rules first came in three years ago and are designed to help ensure sustainability of the top-flight clubs by ensuring that clubs don't spend the TV deal on hugely increased wages.
Clubs will be able to increase their wage spend by £7m each season from 2016/17 to 2018/19 (an increase from the £4m a season during the current TV deal). Clubs can exceed this £7m cap if they generate increased revenue from commercial income, player trading and Match Day income. The Premier League rules are explained here - however they are a little complicated and this diagram should help explain how the rules will work for next season:It is interesting to note that the rules allow a newly promoted club to immediately increase wages to £67m if they wish. So we could, in theory, see a club like Brighton increase their wages from somewhere around £18m (excluding promotion bonuses) to £67m over the summer. Currently, the Championship clubs not in receipt of Parachute Payments only get around £5m in TV revenue - the new TV deal in the Premier League will be worth around £100m from next season. Promoted Clubs could therefore immediately increase wages to £67m and still have plenty of cash to spare in their first season. What could possibly go wrong?Interestingly, we have seen a recent trend for newly promoted clubs doing rather well in the Premier League and the rules certainly help newly promoted clubs to compete. Watford brought in 16 new signings during last summer and we could see the newly promoted clubs act in a similar manner. Although it can be a challenge to get newly acquired players to gel quickly, the newly promoted clubs generally operate from a low salary base and can work off a clean slate and can make maximum use of their wage allowances.
Established Premier League clubs often don't have this flexibility and are often hampered by a glut of long-standing players on high wages, with many often out of favour and purchased by a previous manager (as Sunderland, Aston Villa and Newcastle can testify). These established PL clubs can't always get as much bang for their buck as the promoted clubs (who will also usually have a more long-standing and more recently successful manager). The rules that allow clubs to refer back to 2013/14 will, however, give some extra flexibility to the clubs that have been in the Premier League since that season. The following table shows how the longer-standing clubs are affected by the rules and how most of these clubs are therefore allowed a higher wage increase if they wish. The clubs that are showing in red actually should have no significant issues - clubs have been able to write large commercial deals since 2012/13 on the back of the relentlessly increasing appeal of the Premier League (eg Chelsea's Yokohama tyres deal); the rules don't materially hamper the longer-standing, larger Premier League Teams. It is also important to appreciate that the current Premier League Profit and Sustainability rules are still in place - these rules sit alongside the Short Term Cost Control rules and ensure clubs don't lose more than £105m over three rolling seasons
.It is interesting to note how Man City have benefited from their rather calculated decision to classify Mancini's pay-off as 'wages' - this inflated the club wages and, assuming it isn't contested by the PL, would allow more scope for wage increases (if required). Of course, City have increased Commercial Income since 2013/14 (largely from state-influenced Abu Dhabi companies) so have additional capacity for wage increases in any event. Is 2016/17 player wage bill over £67m? A)Yes B) No C) Lol
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+xAdelaide should do the honourable thing and cop 10 tonight so we can see bozza start throwing things lol. More big defeats = possibility of something changing. Lets hope
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@tsf what r u on about? Our results in the Asian champions league have been so embarrasing and they represent the quality of the A-league compared to other Asian leagues. The A-league is so much being top Asian leagues, it highlights so many issues
Salrary cap, expansion etc. salary cap is meant to ensure fairness for us, yet it does the exact opposite in terms of improving iur wuality of football and competing in Asia
Just look at the results from A-league teams this campaign
Week 1:
0-0 brisbain drew Muangthong. (They are a Thai club)
4-0 Urawa defeat wsw
3-0 Gamba deafts Adeliade
Week 2:
6-0 Ulsan defeat Brisbaine
5-1 Shanghai deafeat wsw
All of our 3 A-league teams are bottom of their group........ Absolutley atrocious
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@sokrony
You cant just base an entire findings of weather the salary cap needs to be abolished based on 2 resilts of wsw winning the acl and adeliade making the finals. You do relized top Asian leagues have won the ACL much more than we have? Just cause we won it once does not mean the salary cap isnt bad. Sure wsw won it but its not like wsw could compete with thoose Asian anymore after they decided to spend even more.
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No top leagie in the world has a salary cap
The salary cap is so stupid and unnecessary in football where money is of importance. There is so much compeition. In fact what
Leagues even have the salary cap. We probs have one cause we cant dont have much money but even then if it improves the quality of the game and competitivness in Asia which comes with multiple benifits its a no brainer.
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People do follow clubs that constantly lose
Look at the support for clubs in england from epl to league 2 who have clubs that are mainly losing, struggling and relegation battlers.
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What is our salary cap per year for an A-league team and a max player income per year
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+xExcellent post AJF. All that needs to happen is adjusted the order of magnitude. Change it around 1 to 2 million above the current cap. Review it a planned intervals. Perfectly reasonable. Whats that going to do? Players union will take that and consider it inflation for the current squad players. Get rid of the cap altogether and bring in the super rich foreign owners. Chinese, Saudis don't care. As long as they invest heavily in talent and grow each club, it's a win
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+x@aussieshorterPeople do follow clubs that constantly loseLook at the support for clubs in england from epl to league 2 who have clubs that are mainly losing, struggling and relegation battlers. That's exactly what I said. Some people think that the salary cap keeping teams 'equal' means more fans will turn up because their team has a realistic chance of winning. I think that more would show up consistently if they were realistic about where their team is at. If that's in a relegation fight, they know that going in and losing a few games won't turn them away as easily. Scrapping the salary cap lets every team define themselves and find their place.
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+x@tsf what r u on about? Our results in the Asian champions league have been so embarrasing and they represent the quality of the A-league compared to other Asian leagues. The A-league is so much being top Asian leagues, it highlights so many issuesSalrary cap, expansion etc. salary cap is meant to ensure fairness for us, yet it does the exact opposite in terms of improving iur wuality of football and competing in AsiaJust look at the results from A-league teams this campaignWeek 1: 0-0 brisbain drew Muangthong. (They are a Thai club)4-0 Urawa defeat wsw3-0 Gamba deafts Adeliade Week 2:6-0 Ulsan defeat Brisbaine 5-1 Shanghai deafeat wswAll of our 3 A-league teams are bottom of their group........ Absolutley atrocious You mean the same Thai club that beat Kashima and are now sitting top of the group table?
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bigpoppa
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I just hope all this wakes the FFA up and turns their eyes towards the leagues like J-League, and how they were built, and away from MLS/AFL/NRL.
I'll be expecting more of the same justifications and excuses though
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Aus Football Fan
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The A-league is limiting its opportunities
The salary cap in world football is so stupid, no top leagues in The world has it in fact which leagues in the world even have it
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Aus Football Fan
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@mr brisbaine
Not the first time an Australian couldnt beat a Thai team ;)
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Mr B
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+x@mr brisbaineNot the first time an Australian couldnt beat a Thai team ;) :laugh:
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+x@sokronyYou cant just base an entire findings of weather the salary cap needs to be abolished based on 2 resilts of wsw winning the acl and adeliade making the finals. You do relized top Asian leagues have won the ACL much more than we have? Just cause we won it once does not mean the salary cap isnt bad. Sure wsw won it but its not like wsw could compete with thoose Asian anymore after they decided to spend even more. Yet what led to the creation of this thread and discussion?? Two games ... not even two ACL campaigns as I used as examples.
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aussie scott21
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It is best for every team when Australian teams qualify. Overall AFC (4th and 5th East) | 8 | 8 |  — |  Australia | 54.355 | 763 | 9.573 | 27.400 | 44.782 | 0.000 | 5.900 | 14.000 | 7.500 | | 9 | 10 |  +1 |  Thailand | 45.536 | 236 | 2.961 | 26.050 | 42.575 | 0.000 | 15.050 | 1.000 | 10.000 |
AFC Club Competitions Ranking - WikipediaIf/when Thailand go past us we move down to 1 automatic team and 2 play off teams. 2017 2016 Im pretty sure they changed the points system last year.
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