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patjennings - 25 May 2021 11:24 AM
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35 in that squad - who would you leave out?

Either Ikonomidis or Taggart. Probably Taggart, as with Japanese Covid restrictions being in the Middle East for 3 weeks would wreck his season. 
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Melbcityguy - 25 May 2021 7:58 AM
So I predict 

gk: Ryan, redmayne and Thomas 

cb: sainsbury, good, Wright, souttar, McGowan and degenek

Karacic, Behich, smith, grant and deng

Midfield:mooy, Irvine, hrustic, metcalfe, Holland, mcgree, jeggo and maybe luongo

Attack: Maclaren, mabil, leckie, duke, Borrello, Rukavytsya, rogic, Boyle and deni juric

Oh yeah I forgot ikon
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So the Socceroos tweet confirms Petratos is out 
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Squad announced. https://www.socceroos.com.au/news/31-players-bound-kuwait-socceroos-seek-seal-top-spot-group-b
Aziz BEHICH
Kayserispor, Turkey
38 (2)
Brandon BORRELLO
Fortuna Dusseldorf, Germany
3 (0)
Martin BOYLE
Hibernian FC, Scotland
4 (2)
Milos DEGENEK
Red Star Belgrade, Serbia
29 (1)
Kenneth DOUGALL
Blackpool FC, England
Uncapped
Mitchell DUKE
Western Sydney Wanderers FC, Australia
6 (2)
Denis GENREAU
Macarthur FC, Australia
Uncapped
Apostolos GIANNOU
OFI Crete, Greece
12 (2)
Curtis GOOD
Melbourne City FC, Australia
1 (0)
Rhyan GRANT
Sydney FC, Australia
12 (0)
James HOLLAND
LASK Linz, Austria
15 (0)
Ajdin HRUSTIC
Eintracht Frankfurt, Germany
3 (0)
Chris IKONOMIDIS
Perth Glory FC, Australia
12 (2)
Jackson IRVINE
Hibernian FC, Scotland
34 (5)
Fran KARACIC
Brescia Calcio, Italy
Uncapped
Mathew LECKIE
Hertha BSC, Germany
63 (11)
Awer MABIL
FC Midtjylland, Denmark
14 (4)
Jamie MACLAREN
Melbourne City FC, Australia
17 (5)
Ryan MCGOWAN
Sydney FC, Australia
20 (0)
Riley MCGREE
Birmingham City FC, England
Uncapped
Connor METCALFE
Melbourne City FC, Australia
Uncapped
Andrew REDMAYNE (Gk)
Sydney FC, Australia
1 (0)
Nikita RUKAVYTSYA
Maccabi Haifa FC, Israel
18 (1)
Mathew RYAN (Gk)
Arsenal FC, England
59 (0)
Trent SAINSBURY
KV Kortrijk, Belgium
48 (3)
Brad SMITH
Seattle Sounders FC, United States of America
22 (0)
Harry SOUTTAR
Stoke City FC, England
2 (4)
Adam TAGGART
Cerezo Osaka, Japan
11 (6)
Lawrence THOMAS (Gk)
SønderjyskE Fodbold, Denmark
Uncapped
Ruon TONGYIK
Central Coast Mariners FC, Australia
Uncapped
Danny VUKOVIC (Gk)
KRC Genk, Belgium
3 (0)

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sportaddict - 25 May 2021 2:32 PM

Squad announced. https://www.socceroos.com.au/news/31-players-bound-kuwait-socceroos-seek-seal-top-spot-group-b
Aziz BEHICH
Kayserispor, Turkey
38 (2)
Brandon BORRELLO
Fortuna Dusseldorf, Germany
3 (0)
Martin BOYLE
Hibernian FC, Scotland
4 (2)
Milos DEGENEK
Red Star Belgrade, Serbia
29 (1)
Kenneth DOUGALL
Blackpool FC, England
Uncapped
Mitchell DUKE
Western Sydney Wanderers FC, Australia
6 (2)
Denis GENREAU
Macarthur FC, Australia
Uncapped
Apostolos GIANNOU
OFI Crete, Greece
12 (2)
Curtis GOOD
Melbourne City FC, Australia
1 (0)
Rhyan GRANT
Sydney FC, Australia
12 (0)
James HOLLAND
LASK Linz, Austria
15 (0)
Ajdin HRUSTIC
Eintracht Frankfurt, Germany
3 (0)
Chris IKONOMIDIS
Perth Glory FC, Australia
12 (2)
Jackson IRVINE
Hibernian FC, Scotland
34 (5)
Fran KARACIC
Brescia Calcio, Italy
Uncapped
Mathew LECKIE
Hertha BSC, Germany
63 (11)
Awer MABIL
FC Midtjylland, Denmark
14 (4)
Jamie MACLAREN
Melbourne City FC, Australia
17 (5)
Ryan MCGOWAN
Sydney FC, Australia
20 (0)
Riley MCGREE
Birmingham City FC, England
Uncapped
Connor METCALFE
Melbourne City FC, Australia
Uncapped
Andrew REDMAYNE (Gk)
Sydney FC, Australia
1 (0)
Nikita RUKAVYTSYA
Maccabi Haifa FC, Israel
18 (1)
Mathew RYAN (Gk)
Arsenal FC, England
59 (0)
Trent SAINSBURY
KV Kortrijk, Belgium
48 (3)
Brad SMITH
Seattle Sounders FC, United States of America
22 (0)
Harry SOUTTAR
Stoke City FC, England
2 (4)
Adam TAGGART
Cerezo Osaka, Japan
11 (6)
Lawrence THOMAS (Gk)
SønderjyskE Fodbold, Denmark
Uncapped
Ruon TONGYIK
Central Coast Mariners FC, Australia
Uncapped
Danny VUKOVIC (Gk)
KRC Genk, Belgium
3 (0)

No Mooy. No Wright.
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sportaddict - 25 May 2021 2:32 PM
sportaddict - 25 May 2021 2:32 PM

No Mooy. No Wright.

No Rogic. No Duncan.
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sportaddict - 25 May 2021 2:32 PM
sportaddict - 25 May 2021 2:32 PM

No Mooy. 

No Mooy, no Rogic?
Can sort of understand Rogic, but really surprises me that Mooy is not there. Is he injured?


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So something like

GK: Ryan
LB: Behich
CB: Souttar
CB: Degenek
RB: Karacic
CM: Holland (?)
CM: Irvine
CAM: Hrustic
LW: Mabil
ST: Mclaren
RW: Boyle



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schimch - 25 May 2021 2:45 PM
So something like

GK: Ryan
LB: Behich
CB: Souttar
CB: Degenek
RB: Karacic
CM: Holland (?)
CM: Irvine
CAM: Hrustic
LW: Mabil
ST: Mclaren
RW: Boyle



This is gonna be tough
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Where the fuck is Aaron mooy 
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I can't believe Arnold would not have picked Mooy if he was available, so can only assume that he is not available for some reason. Family?
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Keeper66 - 25 May 2021 2:56 PM
I can't believe Arnold would not have picked Mooy if he was available, so can only assume that he is not available for some reason. Family?

Exactly, he's our best current player & playing well in China, so it's not form related. Unless Arnold has lost the plot?!!!
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GK - Ryan
RB - karacic
CB - sainsbury 
CB - degenek
LB - Behich
CDM - Holland 
CDM - Irvine 
RAM - Boyle 
CAM - Hrustic 
LAM - Leckie
ST - Maclaren 
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Also no deng is a bummer 
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Also pretty surprised at Genreau's selection. 2 goals and 1 assist this season and I feel his form has fallen off a little after a bright start to the season. Would've liked to have seen Kalik or maybe Devlin or Brimmer selected in his place, they've had better seasons imo. Also very surprised at McGowan's inclusion. He's not even the best Aussie CB at Sydney FC, let alone one of the two best in the AL. Wright or even Cameron Burgess would have been worthier inclusions. Pretty unsure as to the need to include Redmayne; 3 keepers is enough and Ryan, Vuka and Thomas' seasons are done. Giannou is extremely lucky, Deni Juric is playing in a better league and has 11 goals this season to Giannou's 0. Doesn't make any sense. Would've also liked to have seen a call up for Mileusnic; moved abroad to a strong team in a strong league and has played regularly of late. He would have been more deserving than a 31 year old Apostolos Giannou. 
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Derider - 25 May 2021 10:48 AM
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This can't be right. If we lose to both and they draw, we'll go through in first. We'd be on 18 points, and Kuwait and Jordan would be on 17.

We're pretty much guaranteed to progress as long as we beat Nepal and Taiwan. 

You're right. I see what I've done there. 
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SoccerooFan - 25 May 2021 3:04 PM
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Exactly, he's our best current player & playing well in China, so it's not form related. Unless Arnold has lost the plot?!!!

Nah. Gotta be extenuating circumstances.

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Remember there are a lot of players that have been sent to the olyroos camp such as kalik and juric 
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Mooy surely has club commitments or travel restrictions. Holland is our third highest capped midfielder. Hopefully we can win the first game then see many debuts. 
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johnszasz - 25 May 2021 4:28 PM
Mooy surely has club commitments or travel restrictions. Holland is our third highest capped midfielder. Hopefully we can win the first game then see many debuts. 

Mooy hasn't seen his family for ages, intl window is the only time he can get off to see them. Hence why he hasn't been selected.



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Ds98 - 25 May 2021 4:38 PM
johnszasz - 25 May 2021 4:28 PM

Mooy hasn't seen his family for ages, intl window is the only time he can get off to see them. Hence why he hasn't been selected.



Oh that's right his wife stayed in England. 
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sportaddict - 25 May 2021 3:28 PM
Also pretty surprised at Genreau's selection. 2 goals and 1 assist this season and I feel his form has fallen off a little after a bright start to the season. Would've liked to have seen Kalik or maybe Devlin or Brimmer selected in his place, they've had better seasons imo. Also very surprised at McGowan's inclusion. He's not even the best Aussie CB at Sydney FC, let alone one of the two best in the AL. Wright or even Cameron Burgess would have been worthier inclusions. Pretty unsure as to the need to include Redmayne; 3 keepers is enough and Ryan, Vuka and Thomas' seasons are done. Giannou is extremely lucky, Deni Juric is playing in a better league and has 11 goals this season to Giannou's 0. Doesn't make any sense. Would've also liked to have seen a call up for Mileusnic; moved abroad to a strong team in a strong league and has played regularly of late. He would have been more deserving than a 31 year old Apostolos Giannou. 

No issue with Genreau, his general play has warranted his place, he has been Macarthur's best. McGowan has been solid for Sydney and can't think of a reason why he shouldn't have been selected, Cam Burgess and Wright are on the same level as McGowan, but I reckon he's the safest option to take.

No idea what the go is with Giannou, good player, but on form, shouldn't be there. Dunno why but I'd kind of prefer Juric away with the Olyroos regardless. 


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we're fucked. Only 31 announced too.. 

I would say Shanghai don't want him to be gone for 4-6 weeks with quarantine. So the club asked him to stay.. Aaron wants to get payed so has listened to the club.

Cant go to England to see family..Quarantine would kill him anyways.

Rogic most likely couldn't be bothered... sounds about right.

How Genreau is there but no Danny da silva... is criminal... don't see many players in that squad who play as a 10 week in week out.
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jas88 - 25 May 2021 4:56 PM
How Genreau is there but no Danny da silva... is criminal... don't see many players in that squad who play as a 10 week in week out.

exactly, de silva would be perfect for unlocking deep defences. He's also had a better season than Genreau
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Sounds like Mooy has been able to get to his family. I think he's one of the few players to be alone in his current place of residence.

Rogic has an ankle issue. Our midfield looks thin as these two plus Jeggo and Luongo are out. This is the chance for Holland to redeem himself. Pretty much everyone else is there. I'm a little disappointed for Wright and Goodwin. Ikon has come from nowhere and that's great. 
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Ds98 - 25 May 2021 4:38 PM

Oh that's right his wife stayed in England. 

Yep. Do you want a guy who mentally just wants to see his wife & kids & football comes a distant second during  a WCQ campaign?  Let him go, we'll be fine. 

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johnszasz - 25 May 2021 4:46 PM

Yep. Do you want a guy who mentally just wants to see his wife & kids & football comes a distant second during  a WCQ campaign?  Let him go, we'll be fine. 

I'm fine with it. This is a unique case and players get compassionate leave all the time. 
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Yes, Mooy is a loss but if his heart wasn’t in it, he wouldn’t be bringing his A game. This is a squad that can do the job. No excuses. There’s plenty of experience, quality as well as some young blokes out to prove themselves. I can’t wait to see Boyle, Hrustic and Souttar in particular, at various stages. Lots  to look forward to.
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So no Tommy Deng or Zac Duncan in either Olyroos or Socceroos squads. Interesting. 
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Its an interesting squad with some new players that have caught my surprise but Arnie seems to rate them for higher honours.

My only concern is the lack of creativity or general to control the play, Genreau is an upgrade on that but I doubt he will play as a starting player so he has to rely on Hrustic who hasn't gotten alot of game time this season but has potential as the No.10 of this team to eventually replace Rogic.

If only Arzani got his Euro career together he would have been a shoe in for squad as he's a standout for what he brings to the team.

What caught my surprise is Tongyik's inclusion, who would have thought he would make the Socceroos squad after troubling to find a club in his young aleague career as a recycled option for clubs, so huge credit to get the recognition from Arnie to make the squad and credit to Alen Stajcic in helping turn his career around.

Metcalfe is an outstanding prospect who doesnt too many weaknesses to his game so im not surprised Arnie has seen this to put into the squad as a future prospect.

Looking forward to the games! 



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