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+x+x“Sport Thought: Arnold, Socceroos can't afford slip-ups on World Cup path Michael Lynch September 7, 2019 — 6.30pm It might seem to be a match taking place almost in a vacuum, so quiet has been the lead-up. But Australia's clash with Kuwait early Wednesday morning (AEST) has a significance which belies its relatively low-key build-up. Graham Arnold's Socceroos are about to begin the qualification phase for the next World Cup in 2022. Graham Arnold's Socceroos are about to begin the qualification phase for the next World Cup in 2022.AP It is the beginning of a long, and what will almost certainly turn out to be a hard, road to the next World Cup in Qatar in 2022. It will also provide the first real test - in a competitive fixture rather than a friendly - of where the Socceroos have got to following their disappointing quarter-final exit in the Asian Cup earlier this year. In wider terms the game and those that follow it have enormous significance, as World Cup qualification has become even more important than ever for Football Federation Australia following the schism in the game's governance. Now that the A-League is being run by the clubs, who will capture the bulk of TV cash and marketing and sponsorship monies generated by the competition, FFA's main revenue stream will be the national teams, the Socceroos and the Matildas. With qualification for the World Cup worth millions of dollars (just making the last 32 for Russia 2018 netted FFA nearly $US10 million) it is clear just how crucial it is for Graham Arnold's team to negotiate their way through the minefield they must cross in Asia. Without the cash that World Cup qualification will provide, FFA - which must now find more sponsors and other ways of boosting cash flow to bankroll grassroots development and pay for the national teams - will be up against it. The reality is that for Australia it is getting harder and harder to make it to the biggest sporting show on the planet. It always seemed virtually impossible in the old days, when the Socceroos got an easy ride through the shallow waters of Oceania where they saw off some Pacific minnows and then beat up on New Zealand before coming to grief at the hands of a battle-hardened South American or Asian rival: Argentina (narrowly) before the 1994 Cup, Iran (heartbreakingly) before 1998, Uruguay (disappointingly) before 2002. It was that cycle of frustration which made the win over Uruguay in November 2005 such a night of national joy and elation. The move to Asia in 2006 was supposed to end all that tension and doubt. By joining the Asian Football Confederation, Australia would get a standard qualification path to the World Cup: a series of home and away games in league format would ensure that even if there was a slip-up or an off night it would not necessarily prove fatal to the Socceroos' hopes of progress. That's how it looked at the start. Under Dutchman Pim Verbeek - a man not always admired here for his pragmatic approach - the Socceroos qualified for the World Cup in South Africa with a couple of games to spare. Four years later it was much closer when German Holger Osieck was in charge and the Socceroos had well and truly entered what Sir Alex Ferguson called ''squeaky bum time'', only ensuring qualification for Brazil 2014 with a Josh Kennedy header seven minutes from time to get a 1-0 win over Iraq in front of more than 80,000 fans in Sydney. Things were even tighter for 2018 as the Socceroos could not nail down one of the four guaranteed places open to Asian nations for direct qualification. This was a reflection both on the level of the Socceroos - who were now nowhere near as strong as the "golden generation" team of 2006 and 2010 - and the improvements made by Asian nations. It took Ange Postecolgou's men two nail-biting play-offs - an extra-time win over Syria which could have ended disastrously had Omar Al Soma's last-gasp free kick gone in rather than hit the post, and a more comfortable victory over Honduras - to seal their place in Russia. While the expectations are that Australia will make it through their first-phase Asian qualifying group with relative ease - opponents Kuwait, Jordan, Chinese Taipei and Nepal hardly look to be world beaters - there will undoubtedly be a banana skin or two along the way. Australia's Aziz Behich and Jordan's Yousef Al-Rawashdeh: Jordan have been troublesome for the Socceroos. Australia's Aziz Behich and Jordan's Yousef Al-Rawashdeh: Jordan have been troublesome for the Socceroos.AP Australia have struggled against Jordan, particularly in away games - the Socceroos lost 2-0 in Amman in 2015 and 1-0 in the UAE in the Asian Cup earlier this year - so nothing can be taken for granted against them. While Kuwait on paper look to be some way behind Australia, the Kuwaitis did get their campaign off to a flying start with a 7-0 win over Nepal on Friday. Arnold and the Socceroos cannot afford slip-ups. FFA's future funding and the halo effect for the game of a World Cup qualification depends on them getting it right. All the way to Qatar.” https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/sport-thought-arnold-socceroos-can-t-afford-slip-ups-on-world-cup-path-20190906-p52osc.html that's like reading a text message from a baby boomer just know we might be about to enter another squeaky bum time
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Footballfirst
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Just curious does anyone know off hand how hot it has to get before they call off a World cup qualifier match?
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highkick05
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Heat will be ridiculous , humidity probably worse.
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City Sam
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+xHeat will be ridiculous , humidity probably worse. Going to be about 40 degrees by kick off
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Footballfirst
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The FIFA Heat policy say's at 32 degrees or higher there is allowance for extra drink breaks but there doesn't seem to be a set temperature for a match to be abandoned and rescheduled which is just ridiculous.
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paladisious
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+xThe FIFA Heat policy say's at 32 degrees or higher there is allowance for extra drink breaks but there doesn't seem to be a set temperature for a match to be abandoned and rescheduled which is just ridiculous. Imagine the fuss if you took away the oil countries' best advantage.
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richv
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+x+xHeat will be ridiculous , humidity probably worse. Going to be about 40 degrees by kick off Good practice for the finals in Qatar then
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+xHeat will be ridiculous , humidity probably worse. 22%. Dry. Still, it's an oven but it could've been worse.
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Will any channel be showing it?
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+xJust curious does anyone know off hand how hot it has to get before they call off a World cup qualifier match? Kuwaitis will probably install some outside heaters around the ground.
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+x+xHeat will be ridiculous , humidity probably worse. Going to be about 40 degrees by kick off Boys will want to be dead before then
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+xWill any channel be showing it? Apparently it's not on FTA, so only Fox/Kayo. There should hopefully be a Kuwaiti stream, I'll post it in here before kickoff.
By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.
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+xThe FIFA Heat policy say's at 32 degrees or higher there is allowance for extra drink breaks but there doesn't seem to be a set temperature for a match to be abandoned and rescheduled which is just ridiculous. Apropos of nothing FootballNSW policy is games to be abandoned 37 degrees or higher.
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+x+xWill any channel be showing it? Apparently it's not on FTA, so only Fox/Kayo. There should hopefully be a Kuwaiti stream, I'll post it in here before kickoff. Haven't noticed any commercials on Fox regards the game to date. My Football Live app and I expect kayo as mentioned.
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The fact that it’s not on FTA is terrible especially in this era.
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+xThe fact that it’s not on FTA is terrible especially in this era. Isnt that a function of the market? If FTA wont pay to show it how can it end up there? Its not a game of national significance (anti-siphoning if it still exists) so if the market wont pay thats just plain old economics. I agree its a shame that there isnt sufficient demand to convince a broadcaster it worth stumping up the money for though.
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Who is a better player between Ikon and Borello?
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Bit concerned Mooy isn't getting game time at Brighton.
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+xWho is a better player between Ikon and Borello? Well ones playing Bundesliga ones in the A-League. +xBit concerned Mooy isn't getting game time at Brighton. Joining so late he was always going to need take to break into the first team. If hes still only getting 5 minutes in January then Id be worried
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+x+xWho is a better player between Ikon and Borello? Well ones playing Bundesliga ones in the A-League. Borello didn't do anything against Kuwait. Who's to say Ikon couldn't play in the Bundesliga?
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Didn't realise BVM was coaching the UAE nowadays, I had read he was retiring after the 2018 WC, but maybe that's exactly what he's done lol
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+x+x+xWho is a better player between Ikon and Borello? Well ones playing Bundesliga ones in the A-League. Borello didn't do anything against Kuwait. Who's to say Ikon couldn't play in the Bundesliga? This! Borello suddenly being acclaimed as this great player when in reality his just managed to get on the pitch a few times as the worst player for a fairly crap bundesliga side. He's more or less the same player as the emd of his time in the A league. Just caise a guy gets his break in a big leagie doesnt suddenly mean he's becime a better player... take mooy for example. Everyone was doubting him at melb city that he could be premier league just because his dominant form was 'only A league'. A gun is a gun... doesnt matter the league. If anything mooy has regressed substantially compared to his 2014-15 and 2015-2016 form.
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+x+xWho is a better player between Ikon and Borello? Well ones playing Bundesliga ones in the A-League. +xBit concerned Mooy isn't getting game time at Brighton. Joining so late he was always going to need take to break into the first team. If hes still only getting 5 minutes in January then Id be worried Your first point means absolutely diddly squat. Oscar crino played NSL entire career but Richard garcia played many premier league games... who was the better player??
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+x+x+x+xWho is a better player between Ikon and Borello? Well ones playing Bundesliga ones in the A-League. Borello didn't do anything against Kuwait. Who's to say Ikon couldn't play in the Bundesliga? This! Borello suddenly being acclaimed as this great player when in reality his just managed to get on the pitch a few times as the worst player for a fairly crap bundesliga side. He's more or less the same player as the emd of his time in the A league. Just caise a guy gets his break in a big leagie doesnt suddenly mean he's becime a better player... take mooy for example. Everyone was doubting him at melb city that he could be premier league just because his dominant form was 'only A league'. A gun is a gun... doesnt matter the league. If anything mooy has regressed substantially compared to his 2014-15 and 2015-2016 form. Not everyone was.
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Mooy will absolutely be getting game time at Brighton - no need to worry about that. He just joined on deadline day so was behind the 8 ball a little.
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+x+x+x+xWho is a better player between Ikon and Borello? Well ones playing Bundesliga ones in the A-League. Borello didn't do anything against Kuwait. Who's to say Ikon couldn't play in the Bundesliga? This! Borello suddenly being acclaimed as this great player when in reality his just managed to get on the pitch a few times as the worst player for a fairly crap bundesliga side. He's more or less the same player as the emd of his time in the A league. Just caise a guy gets his break in a big leagie doesnt suddenly mean he's becime a better player... take mooy for example. Everyone was doubting him at melb city that he could be premier league just because his dominant form was 'only A league'. A gun is a gun... doesnt matter the league. If anything mooy has regressed substantially compared to his 2014-15 and 2015-2016 form. Are you kidding? Borrello has played and started all 4 competitive matches for a top 6 bundesliga club, averaging more than 70 minutes a game as a 24 year old. that is hardly a few minutes in a crap team and hardly the worst player on the pitch. And he did that after being out injured for pretty much the whole season previous. Borrello was a gun at brisbane and deserved a move to a bigger league, he impressed in Buli 2 in his first season before getting injured enough to get a transfer to a bigger club (despite being injured and grounds for a termination in the transfer). I think that is enough to warrant some acclaim. He is not a showy player (and he is definitely not a showy personality) but he is definitely a gun player and worthy of consideration for the roos.
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+x+x+xWho is a better player between Ikon and Borello? Well ones playing Bundesliga ones in the A-League. Borello didn't do anything against Kuwait. Who's to say Ikon couldn't play in the Bundesliga? "Didn't do anything" is a bit of a stretch. He was quite solid, thought he linked up well with Behich. Regardless, Ikon is a gun, and will play in a bigger league soon enough.
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what would people have as our 4 best wingers? if everyone was fit and healthy.
Id have Arzani, Boyle, Leckie as easy locks
however for the 4th Id be torn between Borello, Mabil, Ikon, Ryan Williams and Nabbout.
Nabbout would be my 4th choice as he could always play the number 9 role as well.
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+xMooy will absolutely be getting game time at Brighton - no need to worry about that. He just joined on deadline day so was behind the 8 ball a little. I'm not concerned at all. There will be matches where they'll start him over Propper or Stevens. He'll hopefully create an awesome link with Groß in training. A shame Trossard is injured this weekend. Neither Trossard or Groß have caps. Did their grandmothers have a fling with any Australian soldiers in the 40's? :D
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