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Jedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together.
It'd be too risky to experiment against Saudi.
Apparently Jeggo has picked up and injury.
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+xJedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together. It'd be too risky to experiment against Saudi. Apparently Jeggo has picked up and injury. If we get to Russia. ATM we have been a goal up in three different away games - Saudi, Iraq and Thailand. Ange could've closed the game down by playing a 4-3-2-1 late in the game. He chose not to. In all three scenarios the opposition scored late goals to equalise. We could be 7 points clear of where we are now. I say this because Cahill's goal against the UAE should've been called a foul. He pushed a player out of position before he scored, which would've resulted in a draw. Agree Jedi is a good CB option. He has played some games for Palace in this position.
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+x+x+xwell well well. for those who scoffed at my long held stance that our mighty captain should consider slipping back into central defence (where i think he would step up a level from where he is now) A defence case for Aston Villa's Mile Jedinak
Villa boss Steve Bruce reckons moving into defence could help extend Mile Jedinak’s career after tipping the Australian international to become a “top-class centre-back”.Jedinak is again set to line-up in the heart of Villa’s backline for Saturday’s game at Wigan, having impressed his manager during last weekend’s 2-0 win over Sheffield Wednesday when he moved from his normal position in midfield following an injury to Nathan Baker. Bruce believes the 32-year-old has the attributes to succeed at the back and claims a switch could keep him playing for longer. “The big thing with Mile is it may prolong his career to go back,” he said. “People are playing at 36, 37 and 38 at centre-back. You’ve got Gareth McAuley down the road at West Brom.“There are not many players in midfield at that age. You can’t expect to be going round a midfield area, being six foot three and it’s something I will have a conversation with him about. “Often when midfielders go back into defence they find the position easy because they are used to handling the ball and everything is in front of them. I think he has all the ingredients to be a top-class centre-back and I think he enjoyed it.” Jedinak has made 27 appearances since joining in a £4million move from Crystal Palace last August and his return to the team last month, following a groin injury, has coincided with Villa's current run of four wins in five games. "We missed him dreadfully when he was injured," admitted Bruce. "He has been excellent the last few weeks. He plays with a fierce determination. He’s a typical Aussie and is ready for a fight. What you see is what you get. "He’s as tough as teak, hard as nails, proper old-school if you like who has done very, very well for the club." Read more at http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2017/03/17/a-defence-case-for-aston-viilas-mile-jedinak/#KyMuoF8iS2ibzke1.99also http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/aston-villa/news/bruce-jedinak-could-become-a-defender_294049.html Thanks for sharing this, IB. Jedi's biggest issue will be turning and chasing if beaten. He could do a similar to job to Milligan as CB. you could say the same for most CB's - not a position typically loaded with pace. in fact bruce points to it being a suitable position for someone slowing down a bit with age because those kind of demands are less of an issue. CB's with good positional sense and game awareness dont get caught out as often. jedi is always going to have a howler here and there in any position. i dont know if its his attention span or what but he does 1 or 2 every couple games. he is under a good coach to make the transition at club. if it had still been with pardew it would be a different story. The big issue for slower CBs is playing a high defensive line. The high defensive line enables a team to have more possession in more advanced positions, and keep the team shape compact in defence. The problem is if speedy opponents break the line slower CBs are running towards their own goal defending.
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+xI reckon Alex Wilkinson was desperately unlucky to miss out. He was superb for Sydney this year in a team that broke all records for number of goals and number of shots conceded. he's won the league basically everywhere he's gone and usualy that's been due in large part to having a good defence. he's a winner with a winning mentality,a nd if you're playing a back 3 with this new system, he'd be one of the first to be able to pick it up i reckon. Agree. He did okay on the biggest stage too - the World Cup.
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Gonna be 5 games in the next 4 weeks. Giddy up.
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+x+xJedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together. It'd be too risky to experiment against Saudi. Apparently Jeggo has picked up and injury. If we get to Russia. ATM We have been goals up in three different away games - Saudi, Iraq and Thailand. Ange could've closed the game down by playing a 4-3-2-1 late in the game. He chose not to. In all three scenarios, the opposition scored late goals to equalise. We could be 7 points clear of where we are now. I say this because Cahill's goal against the UAE should've been called a foul by him pushing a player out of position before he scored, which would've resulted in a draw. Agree Jedi is a good CB option. He has played some games for Palace in this position. I don't like playing what ifs, we are where we deserve to be currently. Against Iraq we got lucky they missed some golden chances, likewise Thailand where we were incredibly lucky to get a draw and we actually equalised against them after falling 2-1 behind.
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City Sam
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+x+x+x+xwell well well. for those who scoffed at my long held stance that our mighty captain should consider slipping back into central defence (where i think he would step up a level from where he is now) A defence case for Aston Villa's Mile Jedinak
Villa boss Steve Bruce reckons moving into defence could help extend Mile Jedinak’s career after tipping the Australian international to become a “top-class centre-back”.Jedinak is again set to line-up in the heart of Villa’s backline for Saturday’s game at Wigan, having impressed his manager during last weekend’s 2-0 win over Sheffield Wednesday when he moved from his normal position in midfield following an injury to Nathan Baker. Bruce believes the 32-year-old has the attributes to succeed at the back and claims a switch could keep him playing for longer. “The big thing with Mile is it may prolong his career to go back,” he said. “People are playing at 36, 37 and 38 at centre-back. You’ve got Gareth McAuley down the road at West Brom.“There are not many players in midfield at that age. You can’t expect to be going round a midfield area, being six foot three and it’s something I will have a conversation with him about. “Often when midfielders go back into defence they find the position easy because they are used to handling the ball and everything is in front of them. I think he has all the ingredients to be a top-class centre-back and I think he enjoyed it.” Jedinak has made 27 appearances since joining in a £4million move from Crystal Palace last August and his return to the team last month, following a groin injury, has coincided with Villa's current run of four wins in five games. "We missed him dreadfully when he was injured," admitted Bruce. "He has been excellent the last few weeks. He plays with a fierce determination. He’s a typical Aussie and is ready for a fight. What you see is what you get. "He’s as tough as teak, hard as nails, proper old-school if you like who has done very, very well for the club." Read more at http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2017/03/17/a-defence-case-for-aston-viilas-mile-jedinak/#KyMuoF8iS2ibzke1.99also http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/aston-villa/news/bruce-jedinak-could-become-a-defender_294049.html Thanks for sharing this, IB. Jedi's biggest issue will be turning and chasing if beaten. He could do a similar to job to Milligan as CB. you could say the same for most CB's - not a position typically loaded with pace. in fact bruce points to it being a suitable position for someone slowing down a bit with age because those kind of demands are less of an issue. CB's with good positional sense and game awareness dont get caught out as often. jedi is always going to have a howler here and there in any position. i dont know if its his attention span or what but he does 1 or 2 every couple games. he is under a good coach to make the transition at club. if it had still been with pardew it would be a different story. The big issue for slower CBs is playing a high defensive line. The high defensive line enables a team to have more possession in more advanced positions, and keep the team shape compact in defence. The problem is if speedy opponents break the line slower CBs are running towards their own goal defending. This is my biggest concern in the confed cup, players like Werner from Germany, Sanchez from Chile and not really sure who Cameroon have but the others have some pacey players who are quality players as well. Jedinak will struggle massively if we play a high line assuming he is moved to centre half.
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+xJedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together.
Yes - I think he would add alot of structure at the back if we continue with a back 3. Ideally with Mooy and Luongo in front as CDMs where they play for their respective clubs.
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+x+x+xJedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together. It'd be too risky to experiment against Saudi. Apparently Jeggo has picked up and injury. If we get to Russia. ATM We have been goals up in three different away games - Saudi, Iraq and Thailand. Ange could've closed the game down by playing a 4-3-2-1 late in the game. He chose not to. In all three scenarios, the opposition scored late goals to equalise. We could be 7 points clear of where we are now. I say this because Cahill's goal against the UAE should've been called a foul by him pushing a player out of position before he scored, which would've resulted in a draw. Agree Jedi is a good CB option. He has played some games for Palace in this position. I don't like playing what ifs, we are where we deserve to be currently. Against Iraq we got lucky they missed some golden chances, likewise Thailand where we were incredibly lucky to get a draw and we actually equalised against them after falling 2-1 behind. What ifs they may be, but Decentric's point needs to be made (again) - can't think of many other international-level coaches that would not try and protect a slender lead in the last 20 minutes of a crucial away WC qualifier. It's just ludicrous, and the the Iraq schmozzle really exposed Ange's tactical naivety, and frankly just gave me the 5hits. Even Brazil, Argentina, Germany would not continue to blindly attack when leading 1-0 in an away WC qualifier - and we are definitely not any of those nations. You can't coach a team at international level to just play at one tempo with one game plan, surely that's obvious? Ange rant over.
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+x+x+x+xJedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together. It'd be too risky to experiment against Saudi. Apparently Jeggo has picked up and injury. If we get to Russia. ATM We have been goals up in three different away games - Saudi, Iraq and Thailand. Ange could've closed the game down by playing a 4-3-2-1 late in the game. He chose not to. In all three scenarios, the opposition scored late goals to equalise. We could be 7 points clear of where we are now. I say this because Cahill's goal against the UAE should've been called a foul by him pushing a player out of position before he scored, which would've resulted in a draw. Agree Jedi is a good CB option. He has played some games for Palace in this position. I don't like playing what ifs, we are where we deserve to be currently. Against Iraq we got lucky they missed some golden chances, likewise Thailand where we were incredibly lucky to get a draw and we actually equalised against them after falling 2-1 behind. What ifs they may be, but Decentric's point needs to be made (again) - can't think of many other international-level coaches that would not try and protect a slender lead in the last 20 minutes of a crucial away WC qualifier. It's just ludicrous, and the the Iraq schmozzle really exposed Ange's tactical naivety, and frankly just gave me the 5hits. Even Brazil, Argentina, Germany would not continue to blindly attack when leading 1-0 in an away WC qualifier - and we are definitely not any of those nations. You can't coach a team at international level to just play at one tempo with one game plan, surely that's obvious? Ange rant over. I went to bed furious that night, I thought it was pain-painstakingly obvious persisting with 3atb on that goat paddock when they were tearing up our wings was not the way to go when we're in front with 20 minutes. Everyone could see the goal coming, but apparently not Ange.
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Would love to see Luke Wilshere join the backroom staff for the confeds cup. Would be massive value for the preparation of the lad, especially has he has a wealth of knowledge playing Russia for as long as he has.
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+x+x+x+xJedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together. It'd be too risky to experiment against Saudi. Apparently Jeggo has picked up and injury. If we get to Russia. ATM We have been goals up in three different away games - Saudi, Iraq and Thailand. Ange could've closed the game down by playing a 4-3-2-1 late in the game. He chose not to. In all three scenarios, the opposition scored late goals to equalise. We could be 7 points clear of where we are now. I say this because Cahill's goal against the UAE should've been called a foul by him pushing a player out of position before he scored, which would've resulted in a draw. Agree Jedi is a good CB option. He has played some games for Palace in this position. I don't like playing what ifs, we are where we deserve to be currently. Against Iraq we got lucky they missed some golden chances, likewise Thailand where we were incredibly lucky to get a draw and we actually equalised against them after falling 2-1 behind. What ifs they may be, but Decentric's point needs to be made (again) - can't think of many other international-level coaches that would not try and protect a slender lead in the last 20 minutes of a crucial away WC qualifier. It's just ludicrous, and the the Iraq schmozzle really exposed Ange's tactical naivety, and frankly just gave me the 5hits. Even Brazil, Argentina, Germany would not continue to blindly attack when leading 1-0 in an away WC qualifier - and we are definitely not any of those nations. You can't coach a team at international level to just play at one tempo with one game plan, surely that's obvious? Ange rant over. That was definitely irritating, made even worse after the match or sometimes during this period where he said he'd rather lose than shutting up shop. He is a great manager but his arrogance will be the downfall of this team.
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+xJedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together.
It'd be too risky to experiment against Saudi.
Ange changed to 3 at the back for the crucial Iraq game, so why wouldn't he be willing to experiment against the Saudis? If Jedinak is in our starting 11, I would rather he play at CB. Firstly, because its the best way to fit all of Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic in the starting 11. And secondly, we're not as strong at the back compared to the midfield (he could even play a bit of a sweepers type role slightly ahead of the other 2 CB's).
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+xJedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together. It'd be too risky to experiment against Saudi. Apparently Jeggo has picked up and injury. Jeggo injured again after being named in an extended squad, I have memories of Chris Herd.
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I wonder once the Saudi game is over if Ange may not start with Jedinak,Milligan and Cahill in the Confeds Cup. It would provide a competitive forum to give some others extended game time to see what they can do
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+x+x+x+x+xJedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together. It'd be too risky to experiment against Saudi. Apparently Jeggo has picked up and injury. If we get to Russia. ATM We have been goals up in three different away games - Saudi, Iraq and Thailand. Ange could've closed the game down by playing a 4-3-2-1 late in the game. He chose not to. In all three scenarios, the opposition scored late goals to equalise. We could be 7 points clear of where we are now. I say this because Cahill's goal against the UAE should've been called a foul by him pushing a player out of position before he scored, which would've resulted in a draw. Agree Jedi is a good CB option. He has played some games for Palace in this position. I don't like playing what ifs, we are where we deserve to be currently. Against Iraq we got lucky they missed some golden chances, likewise Thailand where we were incredibly lucky to get a draw and we actually equalised against them after falling 2-1 behind. What ifs they may be, but Decentric's point needs to be made (again) - can't think of many other international-level coaches that would not try and protect a slender lead in the last 20 minutes of a crucial away WC qualifier. It's just ludicrous, and the the Iraq schmozzle really exposed Ange's tactical naivety, and frankly just gave me the 5hits. Even Brazil, Argentina, Germany would not continue to blindly attack when leading 1-0 in an away WC qualifier - and we are definitely not any of those nations. You can't coach a team at international level to just play at one tempo with one game plan, surely that's obvious? Ange rant over. I went to bed furious that night, I thought it was pain-painstakingly obvious persisting with 3atb on that goat paddock when they were tearing up our wings was not the way to go when we're in front with 20 minutes. Everyone could see the goal coming, but apparently not Ange. The issue was not so much three at the back. It was more that it was that the wingbacks weren't told to get right back. Ange seemed to thing that because there were three at the back, the wingbacks should act as out and out wingers (it seemed, basically). When those wingbacks should have operated in the same way they would have done with two central defenders; i.e. go forward and attack but get back. The only difference is there'd be three central defenders, rather than two. So it would be more balanced. But they weren't to be left isolated.
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citizenship can't be far away.. 
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I was referring to the confed cup in regards to a Russia. Unfortunately all our opponents are fast so Jedinak mustn't be too high in a defender role.
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Last I heard Aston Villa want him to drop back as a defender next season anyway. He'll be great as a defender organising the backline.
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+xLast I heard Aston Villa want him to drop back as a defender next season anyway. He'll be great as a defender organising the backline. If we defeat the Saudis with Jedi playing in midfield then I would play him at CB in the first 2 Confeds Cup games then rest him in the 3rd to see how our other combination/s compare.
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+x+x+x+x+xJedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together. It'd be too risky to experiment against Saudi. Apparently Jeggo has picked up and injury. If we get to Russia. ATM We have been goals up in three different away games - Saudi, Iraq and Thailand. Ange could've closed the game down by playing a 4-3-2-1 late in the game. He chose not to. In all three scenarios, the opposition scored late goals to equalise. We could be 7 points clear of where we are now. I say this because Cahill's goal against the UAE should've been called a foul by him pushing a player out of position before he scored, which would've resulted in a draw. Agree Jedi is a good CB option. He has played some games for Palace in this position. I don't like playing what ifs, we are where we deserve to be currently. Against Iraq we got lucky they missed some golden chances, likewise Thailand where we were incredibly lucky to get a draw and we actually equalised against them after falling 2-1 behind. What ifs they may be, but Decentric's point needs to be made (again) - can't think of many other international-level coaches that would not try and protect a slender lead in the last 20 minutes of a crucial away WC qualifier. It's just ludicrous, and the the Iraq schmozzle really exposed Ange's tactical naivety, and frankly just gave me the 5hits. Even Brazil, Argentina, Germany would not continue to blindly attack when leading 1-0 in an away WC qualifier - and we are definitely not any of those nations. You can't coach a team at international level to just play at one tempo with one game plan, surely that's obvious? Ange rant over. That was definitely irritating, made even worse after the match or sometimes during this period where he said he'd rather lose than shutting up shop. He is a great manager but his arrogance will be the downfall of this team. I think most on the forum would support this - you can be pragmatic to a degree without being being pragmatic to the extent of the Pim and Holger days.
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Pretty sure the 23 is being announced at 8am today?
Apparently Grant will be cut. Jeggo has an injury so he's likely out. Milligan is suspended. McGree. D McGowan, Smith and Kruse to miss out hopefully.
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+xcitizenship can't be far away.. Please yes, we could earn more penalties and capitalise on the chances that Juric and co seem to miss so often !!!!!
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Robbie Kruse makes the squad... again.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xJedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together. It'd be too risky to experiment against Saudi. Apparently Jeggo has picked up and injury. If we get to Russia. ATM We have been goals up in three different away games - Saudi, Iraq and Thailand. Ange could've closed the game down by playing a 4-3-2-1 late in the game. He chose not to. In all three scenarios, the opposition scored late goals to equalise. We could be 7 points clear of where we are now. I say this because Cahill's goal against the UAE should've been called a foul by him pushing a player out of position before he scored, which would've resulted in a draw. Agree Jedi is a good CB option. He has played some games for Palace in this position. I don't like playing what ifs, we are where we deserve to be currently. Against Iraq we got lucky they missed some golden chances, likewise Thailand where we were incredibly lucky to get a draw and we actually equalised against them after falling 2-1 behind. What ifs they may be, but Decentric's point needs to be made (again) - can't think of many other international-level coaches that would not try and protect a slender lead in the last 20 minutes of a crucial away WC qualifier. It's just ludicrous, and the the Iraq schmozzle really exposed Ange's tactical naivety, and frankly just gave me the 5hits. Even Brazil, Argentina, Germany would not continue to blindly attack when leading 1-0 in an away WC qualifier - and we are definitely not any of those nations. You can't coach a team at international level to just play at one tempo with one game plan, surely that's obvious? Ange rant over. I went to bed furious that night, I thought it was pain-painstakingly obvious persisting with 3atb on that goat paddock when they were tearing up our wings was not the way to go when we're in front with 20 minutes. Everyone could see the goal coming, but apparently not Ange. The issue was not so much three at the back. It was more that it was that the wingbacks weren't told to get right back. Ange seemed to thing that because there were three at the back, the wingbacks should act as out and out wingers (it seemed, basically). When those wingbacks should have operated in the same way they would have done with two central defenders; i.e. go forward and attack but get back. The only difference is there'd be three central defenders, rather than two. So it would be more balanced. But they weren't to be left isolated. Do you have any actual proof of that claim? I have none to dispute it but lets at least try and deal with the facts we have before we start tearing down the national team manager. Anyone who has ever coached at a decent level will tell you, no matter how well you plan or how well you think you've articulated your game plan, at certain times players either don't get it, do their own thing or just have poor games. It happens to every coach.
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+xcitizenship can't be far away.. Not sure how legit this is, but what a boon that would be for the Roos. Fornaroli is probably the most technically talented striker to ever play in the A-League. Berisha has been consistent for longer, but Bruno is arguably more talented on the ball.
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+x+xcitizenship can't be far away.. Not sure how legit this is, but what a boon that would be for the Roos. Fornaroli is probably the most technically talented striker to ever play in the A-League. Berisha has been consistent for longer, but Bruno is arguably more talented on the ball. Although knowing Ange he would probably not pick Fornaroli in favour of Matt McKay or some other useless has-been.
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+x+x+xcitizenship can't be far away.. Not sure how legit this is, but what a boon that would be for the Roos. Fornaroli is probably the most technically talented striker to ever play in the A-League. Berisha has been consistent for longer, but Bruno is arguably more talented on the ball. Although knowing Ange he would probably not pick Fornaroli in favour of Matt McKay or some other useless has-been. 
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+x+x+x+x+x+xJedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together. It'd be too risky to experiment against Saudi. Apparently Jeggo has picked up and injury. If we get to Russia. ATM We have been goals up in three different away games - Saudi, Iraq and Thailand. Ange could've closed the game down by playing a 4-3-2-1 late in the game. He chose not to. In all three scenarios, the opposition scored late goals to equalise. We could be 7 points clear of where we are now. I say this because Cahill's goal against the UAE should've been called a foul by him pushing a player out of position before he scored, which would've resulted in a draw. Agree Jedi is a good CB option. He has played some games for Palace in this position. I don't like playing what ifs, we are where we deserve to be currently. Against Iraq we got lucky they missed some golden chances, likewise Thailand where we were incredibly lucky to get a draw and we actually equalised against them after falling 2-1 behind. What ifs they may be, but Decentric's point needs to be made (again) - can't think of many other international-level coaches that would not try and protect a slender lead in the last 20 minutes of a crucial away WC qualifier. It's just ludicrous, and the the Iraq schmozzle really exposed Ange's tactical naivety, and frankly just gave me the 5hits. Even Brazil, Argentina, Germany would not continue to blindly attack when leading 1-0 in an away WC qualifier - and we are definitely not any of those nations. You can't coach a team at international level to just play at one tempo with one game plan, surely that's obvious? Ange rant over. That was definitely irritating, made even worse after the match or sometimes during this period where he said he'd rather lose than shutting up shop. He is a great manager but his arrogance will be the downfall of this team. I think most on the forum would support this - you can be pragmatic to a degree without being being pragmatic to the extent of the Pim and Holger days. Holger wasn't that pragmatic though least not tactically albeit was conservative with his player selections
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+x+xcitizenship can't be far away.. Not sure how legit this is, but what a boon that would be for the Roos. Fornaroli is probably the most technically talented striker to ever play in the A-League. Berisha has been consistent for longer, but Bruno is arguably more talented on the ball. Needs to be in the country for 5 years to be picked - been here since august 2015 thus he's still 3 years away by which time he'll be 32 :( Dont think this will ever happen
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