I heard you the first two times 

@ ..... blamed Clive.

Yup. Get that. Read that before and it is at the heart of FIFAs democratic principles that focuses on players and clubs not administrators. But I don't recon FIFA will impose that. They will sort the representation piece and then leave town safe in the knowledge democracy will run its course ....

I hope your sources are reliable, sounds ideal, but somewhat a pipedream.

I wouldn't believe anything that comes from Nick Meredith though

Reliability greater than most sources - around 70%. If Nick Meredith from Fox thinks there will be 12 teams that also supports what he is saying. Wouldn't stake my house on it though.

How reliable is your postman though?

@ everyone blamed Clive

I don't think they'll touch p/r I think that's too long term. What we'll likely see them work on is the democratic representation, an independent HAL, and the set up of a second division. Anything else will be in the too hard basket and they'll leave after 10-12 weeks confident the New Democratic structure will work.

My mail is there will be 12 twelve next season. The HAL owners and FFA will come to an agreement, firstly about funding, but also about eventual control and timing of promotion and relegation . The Greens and Xenophon will side with the Coalition to change the media laws. Lachlan Murdoch and Gordon will get Channel 10. A new team (to be decided) in Brisbane and a Wollongong Wolves side to come in next season.

The second division is also coming, but it will be a combination of NPL teams and specifically placed 'franchises'. Likely to be produced by Foxtel/10 and shown on Foxtel and SBS. No timeframe for implementation.

If FIFA do step in, they are bound to.


 Once they're tasked with installing something, they'll have to be guided by their own end-goal 

agree

Hopefully there still will be 10 of them...

Whether it's in 2 years or 3 years it's hardly a shambles because of a little difference in timing.

And when can these teams come in? which is why I said shambles numbnutz.

It's such a shambles that a record number of entities and clubs want to join it LOL.

If it forced it would be by AFC imo.

The other way for it to be forced is via FOXTEL or another company willing to pay. I can't figure out why they have not demanded more of the tv money be directed towards the professional system. They have the right to ask for 100% of it, as would be the case if the league was independent.

I don't think FIFA will touch p/r and a second division

The A-League is a shambles at the moment anyway, you'd have to be a fool to want to come in at the moment and throw your cash away. Just wait till FIFA comes in with a 2nd division, promotion/relegation and it let it happen naturally. 

@ MichaelB

I would say the number of disenfranchised Roar fans numbers no more than a couple of hundred now, always possible the administration stuffs up again and puts a nought on the end of that but so far it's been a good 11 months crisis free. There's maybe a couple of hundred more that are associated with City that might flip. Who City won't get are those that supported strikers, there's no love lost between City/Strikers already and the way City are going about this isn't making it better.

City's biggest problem is Ballymore - no one likes it, not even the owners lol. On a wet summers day only about 4,000 seats are covered and the hill is closed. On a hot, sunny day only about 4,000 seats have shade so they need to be lobbying for evening kick offs (but that brings the transport problems to bear).

I recon City are looking at the 60,000 people who go to Roar regularly and hoping they can take a large chunk of them. That's a dangerous strategy, if the 60k going to football doesn't grow both clubs will fail.

I don't know Brisbane achieve between 20,000 to 50,000 for finals football. I would think there are probably at least alot football supporters out there that would back a derby. More punters means more media exposure which equals increased revenue. They may pull in 8,000 to 10,000 for the other games but as long as the stadium is appropriate I see no problem.

You'd know by now, they would need 18 months to get sorted one would think

Expansion NEXT year? I hope so but I highly doubt it 😩

Nick Meredith
Nick Meredith @Fof1967
Replying to @CrowForm and @fcbrisbanecity
They will be an A-League club in 2018/2019

https://mobile.twitter.com/Fof1967/status/893373545341792256

I saw this article today and thought it reminded me....

Paulc look at the numbers of both Sydney FC and MVFC once a rival was introduced.
Melb Hearts introduction would be probably the equivalent of Brisbane City with all things considered. Melb Hearts point of difference was poor to mvfc, they offered themselves as the purists and were anti Merrick and mvfc at the time. No geographical difference and we're sorta just the battlers club.

Anyway both MVFC and Sydney were better off for having a rival. Since then MV actually grew its member numbers to an all time record and it's attendances have increased if anything.

Basically any bandwagoners that leaves the Roar will be offset by hosting a derby and getting 30k plus and putting the game on the sporting calendar in Brisbane.
Away days for Roar at Ballymore will be great. Sold out signs with 17-18k will be the must see event in the city with some proper pre game build up. It will go a long way to imprinting the game into the city.

Just my 2 cents on the matter anyway.

Brisbane is still bringing in an average of 14,000 a game so how many more disenfranchised fans to do think there are? 500, 1,000? Enough to make another team?
Crowd size at a final can't be considered.

Ye, na. Almost all SFC fans are very very glad we have WSW now, we are MUCH better as a club since 2012 as a result of their entry. Might have been tough going at times, but the rivalry has driven us far beyond the club we were and would be were it still a 1-club city. I think the same would occur in Brisbane, it appears alot of disenfranchised fans have left Roar, and there is a need to engage the 60% of the 50,000 you get to your Grand Finals on a more regular basis.

Comparable to that Southern Cross bullshit South Melbourne tried to push. Selling your soul to be part of Frankys wet dream is utterly shameful and quite frankly embarrassing.

If you're gonna claim the 65 year heritage, just call yourselves Brisbane City and hand dat IP up to the FFA.

Otherwise fuck off you're established in 2017.

-PB

"The council, which has the nation’s fourth largest refugee intake, is expected to place a request with a federal parliamentary committee today.

Logan mayor Luke Smith said funding was needed for employment services, language courses, driving schools and counselling.

“We are the most culturally diverse city in Australia, we love that,” he said."

http://www.couriermail.com.au/questnews/logan/logan-city-council-calls-on-federal-government-to-help-fund-refugee-resettlement-services/news-story/6c8bc5171cf9a1f7de3effc76ea23b53

The demographic will change in the future.

Queensland is a rugby league area.