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Val Migliaccio, The Advertiser NORWOOD Oval may be the new home for Adelaide United’s men’s and women’s teams. United bosses have been locked in talks with SANFL club Norwood chiefs over the prospect after the Redlegs were approached to host Adelaide’s A-League matches. But Football Federation Australia has not yet rubber-stamped the 20,000 capacity venue, with the camber of the pitch and a lack of corporate facilities causing concern. The cost of hiring Hindmarsh - which is about $80,000 per A-League match - is forcing United to consider Norwood Oval, which has potential to save United thousands of dollars a season. Norwood chief executive James Fantasia confirmed his club’s interest in hosting Adelaide’s women’s matches at Norwood Oval for the new W-League season after talks of bringing A-League to The Parade kicked off last year. “Our club really has a community focus,’’ Fantasia said. “We’ve got a great venue, so why wouldn’t we look at every opportunity to use Norwood whether that would be football, soccer and other sports and for health education? “We think The Parade is just an amazing place in terms of the shops and restaurants and the overspill, where fans can go to the game to see a good match and then venture along The Parade and make a good day or night out of it. “The public transport here is very good and we’re five minutes from the city and we’ve got good floodlighting which caters for TV matches.” Adelaide chairman Greg Griffin says playing women’s matches at Norwood Oval is an exciting concept, with the club also talking to Blue Eagles about W-League matches at Marden Sports Complex. Adelaide is playing its round-of-32 FFA Cup match against Newcastle Jets at Marden on August 9. “Why not (at Norwood)? The only problem we have is the surface,’’ Griffin said. “But we are also down the track with playing W-League matches at Marden.” The Reds women’s side played most of last season’s home matches at Angle Park, where the pitch is considerably smaller than FFA’s W-League standard 105m x 68m. The synthetic pitch has also met with criticism from Professional Footballers Australia, the players’ union, with claims the turf is not as healthy for athletes as natural grass. The Reds women’s team last season played two live-telecast matches at Hindmarsh in double-headers. Norwood Oval hosted the AFLW’s Crows and Brisbane, attracting 12,108 and televised to a record audience in March.
Reds consider Norwood Oval move to cut costs of Hindmarsh | Adelaide Now
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aussie scott21
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"Norwood Oval hosted the AFLW’s Crows and Brisbane, attracting 12,108 and televised to a record audience in March. "
12,108 is a decent crowd, and a record TV audience to boot.
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+x"Norwood Oval hosted the AFLW’s Crows and Brisbane, attracting 12,108 and televised to a record audience in March. " 12,108 is a decent crowd, and a record TV audience to boot. Jeez you're a fuck-wit.
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So there is stadium criteria?
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lol!
Greg Griffin's forensic accountants already delivering the results...
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+xlol! Greg Griffin's forensic accountants already delivering the results... Just a tactic in negotiating rent at Hindmarsh chief. Your FFA mates dont do negotiating so I know it is a foreign concept.
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+x+xlol! Greg Griffin's forensic accountants already delivering the results... Just a tactic in negotiating rent at Hindmarsh chief. you don't say...
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+x+x+xlol! Greg Griffin's forensic accountants already delivering the results... Just a tactic in negotiating rent at Hindmarsh chief. you don't say... No I did say it.
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Get your hand off it pippinu
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Pretty sure they play baseball there over summer aswell
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+xPretty sure they play baseball there over summer aswell yeah thats baseball  have to invest in some outdoor chairs though 
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Is that an AFL ground?
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According to the article, an AFL Women's game was played there and over 12,000 turned up, so at a guess, I'd say yes (strictly speaking, it's a SANFL and AFLW ground).
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+xAccording to the article, an AFL Women's game was played there and over 12,000 turned up, so at a guess, I'd say yes (strictly speaking, it's a SANFL and AFLW ground). Soccer has attracted a 20k crowd to soccer in the past- SA vs Everton 1964 Summer Cup soccer tournament was played regularly at Norwood throughout the 1950's. I think one or two NSL finals games were played there too.
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+x+xAccording to the article, an AFL Women's game was played there and over 12,000 turned up, so at a guess, I'd say yes (strictly speaking, it's a SANFL and AFLW ground). Soccer has attracted a 20k crowd to soccer in the past- SA vs Everton 1964 Summer Cup soccer tournament was played regularly at Norwood throughout the 1950's. I think one or two NSL finals games were played there too. Adelaide City played there a few times, the most memorable was beating Marconi 4-0 in the second leg of the finals. It is what it is - a ground for Mangroek that's antiquated, has shitty stands and wooden benches to sit on and the surface is bumpy and regularly cut up. The state team played Everton there 50 or so years ago, - I'm sure we've moved on from that, our National team gets paid now!
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+x+x+xAccording to the article, an AFL Women's game was played there and over 12,000 turned up, so at a guess, I'd say yes (strictly speaking, it's a SANFL and AFLW ground). Soccer has attracted a 20k crowd to soccer in the past- SA vs Everton 1964 Summer Cup soccer tournament was played regularly at Norwood throughout the 1950's. I think one or two NSL finals games were played there too. Adelaide City played there a few times, the most memorable was beating Marconi 4-0 in the second leg of the finals. It is what it is - a ground for Mangroek that's antiquated, has shitty stands and wooden benches to sit on and the surface is bumpy and regularly cut up. The state team played Everton there 50 or so years ago, - I'm sure we've moved on from that, our National team gets paid now! I agree.... I'm just pointing out that SANFL hasn't always had a monopoly on the use of Norwood Oval. Baseball was well established there at one point as well as our football.
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+x+xAccording to the article, an AFL Women's game was played there and over 12,000 turned up, so at a guess, I'd say yes (strictly speaking, it's a SANFL and AFLW ground). Soccer has attracted a 20k crowd to soccer in the past- SA vs Everton 1964 Summer Cup soccer tournament was played regularly at Norwood throughout the 1950's. I think one or two NSL finals games were played there too. That 1958 to 1964 period was the golden age of the game.
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+x+x+xAccording to the article, an AFL Women's game was played there and over 12,000 turned up, so at a guess, I'd say yes (strictly speaking, it's a SANFL and AFLW ground). Soccer has attracted a 20k crowd to soccer in the past- SA vs Everton 1964 Summer Cup soccer tournament was played regularly at Norwood throughout the 1950's. I think one or two NSL finals games were played there too. That 1958 to 1964 period was the golden age of the game. Football has never been better then currently, despite all the issues. 62K for Sydney Derby 40K for 2nd Sydney derby 44K for 3rd Sydney Derby 41K for GF 43K for Melb Derby 100K for Brazil v Argentina 52K for Socceroos v Brazil. 48K for Socceroos v Japan SFC v Arsenal to be played WSW v Arsenal to be played SFC v Liverpool 72K
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+x+x+x+xAccording to the article, an AFL Women's game was played there and over 12,000 turned up, so at a guess, I'd say yes (strictly speaking, it's a SANFL and AFLW ground). Soccer has attracted a 20k crowd to soccer in the past- SA vs Everton 1964 Summer Cup soccer tournament was played regularly at Norwood throughout the 1950's. I think one or two NSL finals games were played there too. That 1958 to 1964 period was the golden age of the game. Football has never been better then currently, despite all the issues. 62K for Sydney Derby 40K for 2nd Sydney derby 44K for 3rd Sydney Derby 41K for GF 43K for Melb Derby 100K for Brazil v Argentina 52K for Socceroos v Brazil. 48K for Socceroos v Japan SFC v Arsenal to be played WSW v Arsenal to be played SFC v Liverpool 72K Hellas' record attendance for a regular season match is 23,000 set in 1962. If you adjust for population, it shows what a golden age that period was.
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+x+x+x+x+xAccording to the article, an AFL Women's game was played there and over 12,000 turned up, so at a guess, I'd say yes (strictly speaking, it's a SANFL and AFLW ground). Soccer has attracted a 20k crowd to soccer in the past- SA vs Everton 1964 Summer Cup soccer tournament was played regularly at Norwood throughout the 1950's. I think one or two NSL finals games were played there too. That 1958 to 1964 period was the golden age of the game. Football has never been better then currently, despite all the issues. 62K for Sydney Derby 40K for 2nd Sydney derby 44K for 3rd Sydney Derby 41K for GF 43K for Melb Derby 100K for Brazil v Argentina 52K for Socceroos v Brazil. 48K for Socceroos v Japan SFC v Arsenal to be played WSW v Arsenal to be played SFC v Liverpool 72K Hellas' record attendance for a regular season match is 23,000 set in 1962. If you adjust for population, it shows what a golden age that period was. So if you adjust for population, when was AFL's golden period?
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+x+x+xAccording to the article, an AFL Women's game was played there and over 12,000 turned up, so at a guess, I'd say yes (strictly speaking, it's a SANFL and AFLW ground). Soccer has attracted a 20k crowd to soccer in the past- SA vs Everton 1964 Summer Cup soccer tournament was played regularly at Norwood throughout the 1950's. I think one or two NSL finals games were played there too. That 1958 to 1964 period was the golden age of the game. Why? Australia was banned from international competition by FIFA for five years during that period. A more likely golden era for state league soccer was 1963 to 1976- when the Federation administration took over from the old Association, improved the running of the game; the tours of big name overseas clubs boosted interest; and Australia first qualified for the world cup finals. When the NSL started in 1977, the state leagues suffered a set back because they lost their star players and big crowds.
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is this a satire article?, move from a boutique rectangular telegenic atmospheric 16,500 capacity stadium to an antique afl oval??
how many times have we heard it said so and so club needs a boutique 10-18k capacity rectangle stadium to be viable, now adelaide want to do the reverse
just fold the league please
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but but but, will it look good on telly???
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+xbut but but, will it look good on telly??? but but but economics you made assumptions about operating costs for Dandy by making up rent numbers and break even figures without even making them up.... Dandy will look good on tv and they will get a good deal if not free. Its clear this move wont happen. It will look shit on tv, fans will reject the move and sponsors would drop off.
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if anyone's made assumptions, its not me pal
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+xif anyone's made assumptions, its not me pal It will look shit on tv, fans will reject the move and sponsors would drop off amigo. You work in fact right. You know the rent deal for a stadium and team that doesnt exist? The facts we do know is the FFA take a massive cut of merch, so its better to have a better stadium deal than 50000 fans that buy shirts. A 10k capicity stadium will only ever be that.
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This is the guy some want to lead and take over the A-League
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+xThis is the guy some want to lead and take over the A-League The A-league clubs really need to stop letting this guy represent them, he has absolutely no idea.
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+x+xThis is the guy some want to lead and take over the A-League The A-league clubs really need to stop letting this guy represent them, he has absolutely no idea. I haven't heard one A-league club say they want Griffin to represent them. If this achieves the aim of bringing the rent down on Hindmarsh then job well done.
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+x+x+xThis is the guy some want to lead and take over the A-League The A-league clubs really need to stop letting this guy represent them, he has absolutely no idea. I haven't heard one A-league club say they want Griffin to represent them. 
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+x+x+x+xThis is the guy some want to lead and take over the A-League The A-league clubs really need to stop letting this guy represent them, he has absolutely no idea. I haven't heard one A-league club say they want Griffin to represent them. I did lol
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+x+x+xThis is the guy some want to lead and take over the A-League The A-league clubs really need to stop letting this guy represent them, he has absolutely no idea. I haven't heard one A-league club say they want Griffin to represent them. So why is he the clubs representative then?
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geez, more assumptions (mostly about what i was even referring to)
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+xgeez, more assumptions (mostly about what i was even referring to) They tought me that at economics school.
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Nice, use the media to let the Hindmarsh management know you're looking round, hopefully get a discount to stay. mission accomplished
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Exactly the same story appeared 3 or 4 years ago- nothing will happen.
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Would give up on the league if this happened.
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+xWould give up on the league if this happened. It's a shithole and Griffen's playing with fire. The spectators are pissed off with the non-action of signing players and some are already saying that they're sick of this shit and are going to pull the plug on membership, if the state government calls Griffen's bluff AU won't exist because they'll only have about 2,000 that'll bother going to watch on an antiquated oval with crap seats.
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For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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Didn't it just say the W league and youth teams were moving there? Not the actual A League team?
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+xDidn't it just say the W league and youth teams were moving there? Not the actual A League team? Did you even read the article? Literally in the first two lines is your answer..................
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Im confused. Dont people on here want more clubs playing in smaller stadiums? (admitedly i have never heard of the proposed venue here so I may be missing something big here)
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+xIm confused. Dont people on here want more clubs playing in smaller stadiums? (admitedly i have never heard of the proposed venue here so I may be missing something big here) It's an outdated Oval and they wouldn't have full control of the venue. That's where the issue stands. If they had full reigns to rectangularise it (ala Perth Oval) they it could be a great opportunity but its simply being toyed as a bargaining tool to try and get a better deal at Hindmarsh.
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+xIm confused. Dont people on here want more clubs playing in smaller stadiums? (admitedly i have never heard of the proposed venue here so I may be missing something big here) They already have one of the best boutique stadiums in Australia which holds 16,500. Norwood Oval holds 22k which is higher, outdated and an oval AFL field. Not sure why you are confused.
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It's long been a dream of mine for Norwood oval to be redeveloped (like NIB but with a players tunnel that fits people in it) and for United to play there as it's my neck of the woods. I am a 2 minute walk from there as I type this.
Having said that, it's a nothing article and is word for word one that was published a few years ago..
Wouldn't mind the womens team moving to Marden (or Norwood) though as I would probably get to a few games.
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+x+xIm confused. Dont people on here want more clubs playing in smaller stadiums? (admitedly i have never heard of the proposed venue here so I may be missing something big here) It's an outdated Oval and they wouldn't have full control of the venue. That's where the issue stands. If they had full reigns to rectangularise it (ala Perth Oval) they it could be a great opportunity but its simply being toyed as a bargaining tool to try and get a better deal at Hindmarsh. Ah fair thats pretty unfortunate as the idea of Adelaide playing in a 20k stadium thats far cheaper than Hindmarsh, even if not owned by the club, sounded a great idea.
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+x+xIm confused. Dont people on here want more clubs playing in smaller stadiums? (admitedly i have never heard of the proposed venue here so I may be missing something big here) They already have one of the best boutique stadiums in Australia which holds 16,500. Norwood Oval holds 22k which is higher, outdated and an oval AFL field. Not sure why you are confused. Morning coffee hasnt kicked in and I was thinking of Adelaide oval as Adelaides home. That said any move to a stadium that is both "boutique" and costing the club less is a good move as long as its still a good place to view football.
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must be some plan to try and get a better deal at hindmarsh. it might also explain why they are playing us at Adelaide Oval again (after we thought that little era was over).
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+xmust be some plan to try and get a better deal at hindmarsh. it might also explain why they are playing us at Adelaide Oval again (after we thought that little era was over). FFA decide that AU must play there. Griffin hates having to.
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+x+xmust be some plan to try and get a better deal at hindmarsh. it might also explain why they are playing us at Adelaide Oval again (after we thought that little era was over). FFA decide that AU must play there. Griffin hates having to. Why tho? It's not a finals match so FFA can't even take in any $$
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+x+x+xmust be some plan to try and get a better deal at hindmarsh. it might also explain why they are playing us at Adelaide Oval again (after we thought that little era was over). FFA decide that AU must play there. Griffin hates having to. Why tho? It's not a finals match so FFA can't even take in any $$ makes no sense to me unless the get a good stadium deal out of it (like us at Etihad)
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+x+x+xmust be some plan to try and get a better deal at hindmarsh. it might also explain why they are playing us at Adelaide Oval again (after we thought that little era was over). FFA decide that AU must play there. Griffin hates having to. Why tho? It's not a finals match so FFA can't even take in any $$ . . . . Griffin claims an agreement between Adelaide Oval’s Stadium Management Authority and Football Federation Australia forced the Reds to play its round one clash against arch rival Melbourne Victory which ended in a scoreless draw. Many Adelaide United’s fans reacted with venom to the club hosting its match at Adelaide Oval. The club’s official Facebook page was hammered by a plethora of angry fans who pleaded for the club never to play a Reds match at Adelaide Oval again. Griffin acknowledged the fans angst but believes the timing of the Reds opening match of the season probably cost the club a decent sized crowd and a hefty profit. DRAW: Reds blow chance to end Victory hoodoo  Plenty of empty seats at Adelaide Oval as the teams walked out on Friday night.“We don’t pick these venues we didn’t pick this game on this date,’’ Griffin said. “The venue and the date were allocated by the FFA. “We had no say in it, we’d like to be very heavily involved if we’re doing it again and say look “we think it should be round three or round four. “People know the A-League is on and you’ve kicked the cobwebs out, it’s simply too big a blockbuster during the first week. “The FFA have their own separate agreement with Adelaide Oval, which is negotiated without us. There’s a contract between Adelaide Oval the SMA and FFA which we’re not a party to. “It’s our profit and our risk. “There are two agreements, there was an agreement months and months ago between FFA and SMA and on Wednesday I was asked to sign a match day agreement with SMA. “I signed it at 6.30pm on the pitch on Friday night.” Winner of Official 442 Comment of the day Award - 10th April 2017
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