You had kids free gimmick last week as well. Its not good enough across the board.

BB

Thanks for explaining my base figures are different ... so yes I totally understand the concept of comparing apples and oranges.... 

In the spirit of the ""Olive Branch""" we can lift the discussion on this site by not attacking and or assuming motives...  

This site like many others has lost many good discussions due too IMO two factors, AFL posters who troll often using multi-es to discredit discussion and secondly Football posters who have developed a habit of attacking other posters because they have a different view of the world....

For the record roughly 12 to 15 months I wrote my future Australian structure and sent it too the Roar three times and it was never published after their change in ownership.... I did not post on this site as at the time it had become toxic with the above paragraph...

In brief its this ...The A-League, W-League, Second Division, all run themselves with their own independent boards... with FFA oversight if they stuff up or a member wants to complain... All Football money from the State Feds [more than FFA], A-League, W-League, international matches etc added together and then allocated on a needs basic.... Essentially FFA develop a conceptual framework for everyone to operate.

For the above to work requires three huge changes to FFA, first the handing of power to those that run the competitions they are in, second no salary cap, third transfer fees.

Over time say 9 to 12 years with astute management P & R will simply evolve...

I also maintain, its not only FFA who have made mistakes and placing all blame on FFA for all the ills of Football will allow future mistakes to happen... and puts on armour in that not every single thing FFA have done is wrong.

Friday marquee slot gets 10,063 for the reigning premiers. And it was bring a friend for free day.

Is this a joke.

Nix - 7,018

AU MC 11,689 (source au twitter)

Jets v WSW - 11,468

Sydney said they didn't like the Friday fixtures but everyone has to have them, traditionally not a popular time slot. I have no problem with the crowd figure they just need to play in appropriate stadiums for smaller fixtures. The only time you need Alliance is for Melbourne Victory and the Wanderers. I guess clubs are making decisions that are financially best and I understand this. It is a shame because a lot of the crowd culture is lost on the game and the TV audience. The same could be said for Phoenix and The Roar.

"I have no problem with the crowd figure they just need to play in appropriate stadiums for smaller fixtures."

So the record breaking premiers/champions just need smaller stadiums so their crowds don't look embarrassing.

On prime time Friday bring a mate for free night.

Yeah, nup.

CCM vs MV = 5,519

Lowest crowd after 4 rounds.

So what exactly is the best time slot? Seems to be a complaint attached to every spot.

Have people just started watching the A-league? These crowd complaints are 5 years old and comparative to rugby codes. The best time slot is Saturday evening but it is not feasible for all teams to play it especially when Fox determines the times. Crowds fluctuate based on times. I don't profess these circumstances are right, it is what it is. A-league needs to find a way around it.

Friday nights are shithouse anyway, hate having home games then more than any other timeslot. 

off the top  of mu head, City has had more than their fair share in the last two years-could that be why their crowds haven't grown as much a s people say they should.

Didn't Adelaide have Friday nights for many of their home games and it became a routine for them with good attendances.

WOW that is poor.

Why so low?

People have to go to work and send the kids to school.
Getting home at 10pm on a Sunday night is a fail.

Yeah Friday nights here used to be great and we always had our best crowds then.
I think probably coz we started to broadcast Friday night games we got less of them. Can't be sure if that's true. 

Oh and when I looked around the ground Saturday night i guessed closer to 12.5k than 11.5k so I was a bit surprised. It's always a struggle to see where another 5k people can fit.

Yep. If we have any games this season at that time there's a 90% chance I won't be there. Would have to be something riding on the game like the final round and a win away from top 2 or whatever.

Did you take into account that seated capacity is 15,500?

On the night I did point out when its full people stand 2-3 people deep, yes.
I know Hindmarsh well enough to know it's capacity. I could have said 4k and the point would have been the same too.

Not saying the count was wrong or there's a conspiracy. Just that it "felt" over 12k. You can generally tell by how full the southern stand starts to get. 

The point about struggling to see where the other people would fit is something I am always amazed at in any arena for sport or music. Especially at a concert when you realise how many people can squeeze onto the floor area.

Not supporting your team is a bigger fail. They're a disgrace, rotten to the core, yellow is a horrible colour and their beaches are as exciting as Bill Shorten 

made good noise in that final 10 min

Agree with this.

In the past the older mods used to constantly remind posters to 'attack the idea not the person.'

Now a few of the newer  mods are guilty of attacking the person themselves. So they are hardly like to enforce the prevailing 442 protocol and rules. 

For some reason some people who participate in internet discussion seem to be overly keen to create conflict, not consensus. This is obviously due to lack of social skills in face to face interaction off forum.

In terms of discussing  crowd numbers for the HAL I cannot see why some get so heated.

Thanks for posting this, Billy.

I'm trying to think of the games the Roar have played this season.

They have had two home games where I think they've had 10 000 plus, but their away games have been at City and Nix. Hopefully, he plays in Adelaide, against Victory and in the  Sydney venues soon. Glory also got a decent crowd.

I'm very disappointed at this low figure.

I think CCM are good to watch ATM.

There seem to be few CCM fans who post here anymore.

There is a new feature called a Mute mechanism.

Contact the moderator McJules. He will explain how to activate this to block/mute annoying posters, often who troll and target specific people. It is like giving them a red card. You don't see what they post. It is like they disappear from the forum - permanently.

A large portion of Mariners fans are families with children so 7PM on Sunday night is a horrific time slot for us. Considering Gosford is a commuter town plenty of people would need to get up early the next morning so would be unable to go so late. A few years of poor results and a shackling by Newcastle in the first round wouldn't have helped either. We are capable of good crowds and averaging above 10,000 but a combination of terrible time slots and poor results lead to our small crowd.

City vs Sydney = 11,034

I don't know how many times I have said this but people tend to always forget the element of consecutive home games and the effect it has. Sydney has played 3 home games in a row! With the derby being wedged in the middle. So it is extremely unlikely that the same fans are going to 3 home games in a row. Attendance fatigue can set in. It's not as if it's a different set of fans attending all 3 games, the majority would of the fans there are the one's that went the week before, however  proportion say 30-40% will not go to 3 home games in a row. It's just not plausible.

If the 3 latest home games had been spread out over 5-6 week period the crowds would have been boosted. No doubt about it. The next home game is against the Jets in 2 weeks time, which will mean 3 weeks since the last home game. It will get the biggest crowd of the season (bar the derby) by quite some margin.