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soil - 5 Sep 2017 10:34 PM
Davstar - 5 Sep 2017 10:31 PM

Should have been a yellow. Not a red. Being a bit dramatic.

No red for Studs up? 

these Kangaroos can play football - 
Ange P. (Intercontinental WC Play-offs 2017) 

KEEP POLITICS OUT OF FOOTBALL

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southmelb - 5 Sep 2017 10:37 PM
Assuming we go into the playoffs, if you sack him now and lose in the playoffs the backlash will be x1000 times worse, gotta stay the course until the end.

I think we should do a Holger on him- get us to the WC and THEN sack him.

But I bet he'll be entitled to a payout if we did that.
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Gruen - 5 Sep 2017 10:11 PM
Kamaryn - 5 Sep 2017 10:09 PM

He has retired

We still have time to sack him before he retires.
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Holger lost consecutive games 6-0, and realistically could have lost them by more, we created more chances tonight then probably the last five games holger coached combined. It's a tense situation but it's not like the holger situation where the players had clearly given up on him. This lot are giving it everything, tonight showed that. Making the change now would be a massive gamble and respective of what happens in a few hours.
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southmelb - 5 Sep 2017 10:37 PM
Assuming we go into the playoffs, if you sack him now and lose in the playoffs the backlash will be x1000 times worse, gotta stay the course until the end.

Actually think that's a fair comment. I'd add if we do that he needs to be in charge at Russia still if we get there. No manager is going to want the job of taking us through the next qualifiers knowing we've sacked the previous 2 managers who got us there before the big dance.
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vanlassen - 5 Sep 2017 10:53 PM
Gruen - 5 Sep 2017 10:11 PM

We still have time to sack him before he retires.

Sack Guus?
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Sack the FFA to they a pathetic runs from top down.
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Gruen - 5 Sep 2017 10:57 PM
vanlassen - 5 Sep 2017 10:53 PM

Sack Guus?

I thought we were talking about Ange. Don't sack Guus.
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Are people fucking stupid? Why the fuck would we sack our coach now in the middle of qualification, I know it worked with Guus but this is entirely different. Name me on coach within our budget who would do a better job at this sort of notice, the players trust him and we have shown we are capable. The reason we are not doing as well as previous qualification runs is simple, WE ARE NOT AS GOOD AS WE ONCE WERE. Time to get ourselves and stop thinking we have a divine right to make the World Cup every four years, we aren't Uruguay. Qualifying for the WC is tough, no matter if who you are and while I agree if we don't make it he should go but now is definitely not the time. Hell we might find out in 6 hours that we are into Russia.
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milan_7 - 5 Sep 2017 11:10 PM
Are people fucking stupid? Why the fuck would we sack our coach now in the middle of qualification, I know it worked with Guus but this is entirely different. Name me on coach within our budget who would do a better job at this sort of notice, the players trust him and we have shown we are capable. The reason we are not doing as well as previous qualification runs is simple, WE ARE NOT AS GOOD AS WE ONCE WERE. Time to get ourselves and stop thinking we have a divine right to make the World Cup every four years, we aren't Uruguay. Qualifying for the WC is tough, no matter if who you are and while I agree if we don't make it he should go but now is definitely not the time. Hell we might find out in 6 hours that we are into Russia.

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milan_7 - 5 Sep 2017 11:10 PM
Are people fucking stupid? While i agree, if we don't make it he should go.

Are you? He already said he would go after this world cup anyway. 
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milan_7 - 5 Sep 2017 11:10 PM
Are people fucking stupid? Why the fuck would we sack our coach now in the middle of qualification, I know it worked with Guus but this is entirely different. Name me on coach within our budget who would do a better job at this sort of notice, the players trust him and we have shown we are capable. The reason we are not doing as well as previous qualification runs is simple, WE ARE NOT AS GOOD AS WE ONCE WERE. Time to get ourselves and stop thinking we have a divine right to make the World Cup every four years, we aren't Uruguay. Qualifying for the WC is tough, no matter if who you are and while I agree if we don't make it he should go but now is definitely not the time. Hell we might find out in 6 hours that we are into Russia.

I'll give it a go boys, first order of business, fly smith back to Bournemouth and keep him there, second order of business, give Mitch a go at the no1, bring in brad Jones and play players to a formation that suits them.
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FFA has 1, possibly 2 extra home playoffs worth of ticket sales to ay out Ange with
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Ange has stormed out if the press conference. He's fuming at the apparent garbage questions thrown against the players. 
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scott21 - 5 Sep 2017 11:15 PM
milan_7 - 5 Sep 2017 11:10 PM

Hasse Backe


There would be many many many managers available for the same money as Ange. What are they offering? 4 games to make WC (if SA win) and summer in Australia.
It is an attractive job. 
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johnszasz - 5 Sep 2017 11:24 PM
Ange has stormed out if the press conference. He's fuming at the apparent garbage questions thrown against the players. 

Were they actually out of line, or Ange having a tantrum?
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I wouldn't sack Ange on this performance. The Thais were always going to sit back and we always had to take the attack to them. We could have had 5 or 6 on another night. Ange's weakness has been exposed in earlier matches, however. He is too inflexible and therefore the Socceroos have become predictable, handing a big advantage to the opponents.

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scott21 - 5 Sep 2017 11:24 PM
scott21 - 5 Sep 2017 11:15 PM

There would be many many many managers available for the same money as Ange. What are they offering? 4 games to make WC (if SA win) and summer in Australia.
It is an attractive job. 

Yeah possible away playoff against syria. job of a "lifetime"
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City Sam - 5 Sep 2017 11:26 PM
johnszasz - 5 Sep 2017 11:24 PM

Were they actually out of line, or Ange having a tantrum?

Guarantee its an ange tantrum, he has been getting it easy from the press for so long and cant handle the truth. He is a passive agreesive sook.
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bohemia - 5 Sep 2017 11:27 PM
scott21 - 5 Sep 2017 11:24 PM


Yeah possible away playoff against syria. job of a "lifetime"

They will play in Malaysia

Taking Australia to the WC...


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bohemia - 5 Sep 2017 11:27 PM
scott21 - 5 Sep 2017 11:24 PM

Yeah possible away playoff against syria. job of a "lifetime"

We could very well have Korea and USA/
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City Sam - 5 Sep 2017 11:31 PM
bohemia - 5 Sep 2017 11:27 PM

We could very well have Korea and USA/

But a winning manager would retain the job into the WC. As a manager there would not be many who would not want that chance.
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45 shots on goal for 2 goals

no manager in the world can fix that combination of bad luck and poor finishing. 
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The majority of managers we could actually get would be experienced journeymen looking for one last payday. Looking at our talent pool and the prospect of 4 tough qualifiers, it's a suicide job for most managers.
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We're playing the highest quality football i've ever seen Australia play. We've had some issues with finishing and getting caught on the counter but we're twice the team we were under arnold/pim/holger. Ange has been constantly pushing this group of players to develop over the past few years, to me it's working and would be stupid to throw all that work away. If we don't qualify for the WC of course he's goneskies immediately though.

Turning Australia into world cup winners was never going to be easy, I'm quite happy to take a bit of extra stress if we're pushing in the right direction. Sacking Ange and going hiring some short-termer who is just going to make us play hopeful counter attacking football will do nothing for the game in this country in the long term. Winning the AC + The positive showing at the confeds means he deserves the chance to continue what he started. 
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grazorblade - 5 Sep 2017 11:37 PM
45 shots on goal for 2 goals

no manager in the world can fix that combination of bad luck and poor finishing. 

Sure could have fixed our defence.
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"If we had have got one earlier, it might have opened them up a bit. It's heartbreaking for the players," he said.

Postecoglou snapped when asked to summarise his 10-game qualifying campaign.

"It's been unbelievable and it's been magnificent," he said sarcastically.

"I've been sitting here frustrated for the last two years, listening to some of the garbage being thrown around at these players," he said.

"It's tough qualifying for a World Cup. It's even tougher when it's your first one.

"We've played 10 games and lost one. They've done everything I've asked of them.

"You know what? Yeah that's all I've got to say."
Postecoglou stunned by Socceroos result - Nine Wide World of Sports - Football

lets hope we dont go to playoffs because he has the excuses but not the answers


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City Sam - 5 Sep 2017 11:42 PM
grazorblade - 5 Sep 2017 11:37 PM

Sure could have fixed our defence.

Gee its almost as if pushing high up the field leaves you exposed.

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Anyone else noticed Ange has fallen into the Holger mould exactly? 

Amazing Asian Cup then picking the same players that are not working and performances getting worse by the day. 

And we can't sack him if this goes to the playoffs. That would make a hard challenge even harder!
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TimmyJ - 6 Sep 2017 12:18 AM
Anyone else noticed Ange has fallen into the Holger mould exactly? 

Amazing Asian Cup then picking the same players that are not working and performances getting worse by the day. 

And we can't sack him if this goes to the playoffs. That would make a hard challenge even harder!

6 changes to starting 11=picking the same players?

Holger picked a whole team of geriatrics....Ange picked smith who at least is young and gets cup time
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