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chondro
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Gary kept losing with the women’s u20s and got gifted the men’s u20 squad.
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Barca4Life
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9-1? What a disgrace!
I haven’t been following the team but seeing the recent results which contain 5-1 to North Korea, 7-0 to Japan and now this tells me something seriously gone wrong through women’s youth development ranks.
We are a long way behind these countries and I can only fear what the Matildas could look like in 10 years with results like these as a future indicator.
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chondro
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Ffa deleted all the posts on Facebook. They are in damage control atm.
what’s funny is how many play out of there natural position.
you have Cooney cross playing dm ffs.
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+x+xHow can you fail at you’re job several times and continue to get hired? Gary van Egmond? Only at the ffa can you fail upwards
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Just saw the highlights jeez that really looked like amateur hour on some of those goals. The Korean girls did finish well though to be fair to them.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xI like the concept but seems to be harder to justify if the revenue generated between the men’s and women’s game is significanty different.
The women’s game deserve more investment, but that should be part of a broader plan to have deliverable targets and align increases to that. Pay equality is one thing, but it’s not always so cut and dry. Not to mention the skill level, standard of play and competitiveness of the opposition. That alone is out of this world. The current joeys team would easily put 10 past them....in a half. Tell you what.... if they can beat the Joeys they can have the cash...but not till then. How long did it take the Socceroos to earn what they currently earn....decades is what. And it’s just gifted to the Matildas because of insane out of control leftist liberalism....a slap in the face to the 74 Socceroos part-timers don’t you think... Why are you criticising a group of people for earning more? By the same logic as the above, all workers need to wait decades for an 8 hour work day etc... Consider what the 74 Roos were compensated and the revenue they generated....gross imbalance that equates to UNDERPAID.
Now compare the revenue the Matilda’s generate and what they are compensated(now)...gross imbalance that equates to OVERPAID.Comes down to simple economics and a comparison of market v market total revenue. In this case International men’s football vs international women’s football. No offence but they are light years apart. Nothing to do with all workers waiting decades for an 8hour day and that comment is highly disputable anyway... That nails my objection to this pay deal. Australian women's football is really riding on the coat tails of the Socceroos of the past. There is nothing "equal" about getting paid the same for bringing in less. Do you think you'll be OK? Help for the distressed. 7-0, 9-1. No World Cup brah. The future looks bright hey Muz. Do you think you’ll come through this okay ? Here, have a 💩 shaped chocolate fudge cookie..that will make you feel better. It’s on the house.
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+xTo qualify for a WC. lose 9-1 to South Korea. Over 70 minutes in our own half. Semi final 7-0 loss to japan. 5-1 loss to nth Korea. could barely get over both Thailand and Vietnam. Those results are very concerning. We can all say that results at youth level are not an indicator of future success, but with those results it shows just how off the pace we are. We have a significant level of players coming through, but the quality seems to be lacking in the women’s development pathway. The pathway to the men’s game seems a bit more hopeful, but still concerning signs there too.
What’s the solution though? Coaches are one thing, but the curriculum is the same for anyone taking the role, as that is what is mandated to be used in that system. Ripping that apart and starting again will take another 10 years to get traction, but something just isn’t clicking at this stage.
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Dingo
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+xGary kept losing with the women’s u20s and got gifted the men’s u20 squad. At least we'll find out how many times you can try to polish a turd
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If the FFA want to make women’s youth development better then they need to appoint a technical director for women’s football only and priority in that role should be to create a framework or a curriculum seperate to the FFA NC one which focuses on developing international level players from a younger age.
The Future Matildas program doesn’t go deep enough considering the technical level of the Australian girls is very low compared to the Japanese and Koreas(both sides).
I feel not enough focus has been done on the women’s youth development side as most of it has done to correct the men’s side I feel the women’s need to be a stand alone priority from now on.
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Dingo
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+x+xTo qualify for a WC. lose 9-1 to South Korea. Over 70 minutes in our own half. Semi final 7-0 loss to japan. 5-1 loss to nth Korea. could barely get over both Thailand and Vietnam. Those results are very concerning. We can all say that results at youth level are not an indicator of future success, but with those results it shows just how off the pace we are. We have a significant level of players coming through, but the quality seems to be lacking in the women’s development pathway. The pathway to the men’s game seems a bit more hopeful, but still concerning signs there too.
What’s the solution though? Coaches are one thing, but the curriculum is the same for anyone taking the role, as that is what is mandated to be used in that system. Ripping that apart and starting again will take another 10 years to get traction, but something just isn’t clicking at this stage.
Maybe a national Womens Futsal team would be something....has Australia ever had one. The odd player will make the transition Pretty sure most of the serious Asian countries have
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Heart_fan
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+x+x+xTo qualify for a WC. lose 9-1 to South Korea. Over 70 minutes in our own half. Semi final 7-0 loss to japan. 5-1 loss to nth Korea. could barely get over both Thailand and Vietnam. Those results are very concerning. We can all say that results at youth level are not an indicator of future success, but with those results it shows just how off the pace we are. We have a significant level of players coming through, but the quality seems to be lacking in the women’s development pathway. The pathway to the men’s game seems a bit more hopeful, but still concerning signs there too.
What’s the solution though? Coaches are one thing, but the curriculum is the same for anyone taking the role, as that is what is mandated to be used in that system. Ripping that apart and starting again will take another 10 years to get traction, but something just isn’t clicking at this stage.
Maybe a national Womens Futsal team would be something....has Australia ever had one. The odd player will make the transition Certainly couldn’t hurt. Futsal is a very important part of a development pathway in my view, but it’s not a view shared by all. The skills that can be fine tuned in Futsal can be very useful if incorporated into the training program with the full sized field game.
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Barca4Life
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+x+x+x+xTo qualify for a WC. lose 9-1 to South Korea. Over 70 minutes in our own half. Semi final 7-0 loss to japan. 5-1 loss to nth Korea. could barely get over both Thailand and Vietnam. Those results are very concerning. We can all say that results at youth level are not an indicator of future success, but with those results it shows just how off the pace we are. We have a significant level of players coming through, but the quality seems to be lacking in the women’s development pathway. The pathway to the men’s game seems a bit more hopeful, but still concerning signs there too.
What’s the solution though? Coaches are one thing, but the curriculum is the same for anyone taking the role, as that is what is mandated to be used in that system. Ripping that apart and starting again will take another 10 years to get traction, but something just isn’t clicking at this stage.
Maybe a national Womens Futsal team would be something....has Australia ever had one. The odd player will make the transition Certainly couldn’t hurt. Futsal is a very important part of a development pathway in my view, but it’s not a view shared by all. The skills that can be fine tuned in Futsal can be very useful if incorporated into the training program with the full sized field game.
It’s baffling in general how futsal hasn’t been incorporated in our youth development pathways and system considering the technical deficiencies of Australian players both male and female compared to our Asian counterparts who have it as a crucial part in their development. Futsal is also a great substitute for developing street smarts as well considering the diminishing street football culture we lost. Our leaders are still stuck in the stone ages it seems...
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI like the concept but seems to be harder to justify if the revenue generated between the men’s and women’s game is significanty different.
The women’s game deserve more investment, but that should be part of a broader plan to have deliverable targets and align increases to that. Pay equality is one thing, but it’s not always so cut and dry. Not to mention the skill level, standard of play and competitiveness of the opposition. That alone is out of this world. The current joeys team would easily put 10 past them....in a half. Tell you what.... if they can beat the Joeys they can have the cash...but not till then. How long did it take the Socceroos to earn what they currently earn....decades is what. And it’s just gifted to the Matildas because of insane out of control leftist liberalism....a slap in the face to the 74 Socceroos part-timers don’t you think... Why are you criticising a group of people for earning more? By the same logic as the above, all workers need to wait decades for an 8 hour work day etc... Consider what the 74 Roos were compensated and the revenue they generated....gross imbalance that equates to UNDERPAID.
Now compare the revenue the Matilda’s generate and what they are compensated(now)...gross imbalance that equates to OVERPAID.Comes down to simple economics and a comparison of market v market total revenue. In this case International men’s football vs international women’s football. No offence but they are light years apart. Nothing to do with all workers waiting decades for an 8hour day and that comment is highly disputable anyway... That nails my objection to this pay deal. Australian women's football is really riding on the coat tails of the Socceroos of the past. There is nothing "equal" about getting paid the same for bringing in less. Do you think you'll be OK? Help for the distressed. 7-0, 9-1. No World Cup brah. The future looks bright hey Muz. Do you think you’ll come through this okay ? Here, have a 💩 shaped chocolate fudge cookie..that will make you feel better. It’s on the house. Clearly the answer is to remove any and all funding of these teams because reasons (?)
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Shocking how bad Micah is as a Gk atm.
surely doesn’t remain with the matildas as 3rd choice.
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+xShocking how bad Micah is as a Gk atm. surely doesn’t remain with the matildas as 3rd choice. Willacy is a better shot-stopper.
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Dingo
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Rinse and repeat from a failed coach....onya FFA
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chondro
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Willacy, Campbell, dumont, all better 3rd choice keepers atm.
simon has don’t very little, give another striker or winger a shot.
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Dingo
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Dumont has been best keeper in WLeague for the past 2 seasons, Fuk knows how he hasn't seen that.....no idea.
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chondro
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Because usually 3rd choice is a future keeper prospect. U25.
dumont is 28 in 2 weeks. Arnold is second choice and 2-3 years youngerr
Atm, in the League.rr..
willacy 95
campbell 95
khamis 95
coelho 96
simonsen 97
micah 97
worth 97
boric 98
whyman 99
goldsmith 00
chapple 01
grove 01
highest potential is whyman, then maybe simonsen.
beyond that a long way to Templeman (the u17 matikdas keeper) who is only 16, born 03.
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https://twitter.com/battledinosaur/status/1215052097848168448?s=2 Give me a break with the age thing, and not to mention the WSW girls who are doing a sterling job, Something is rotten in the state of Denmark
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Obviously those on contract get first dibs otherwise it an extra $250 per day per player not contracted as a Matilda. The only exception is Gorry who apparently does not have a Matilda's contract.
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+xObviously those on contract get first dibs otherwise it an extra $250 per day per player not contracted as a Matilda. The only exception is Gorry who apparently does not have a Matilda's contract. I think its a case of Milicic hasn't got the balls to drop certain players (even though there are players he can pick from who are performing a lot better) or he learnt nothing from the recent WC where our deficiencies were there for all to see.
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+x+xDoes dower know about them? Yes she has been given loads of video from the previous club in Feb ,2019 for arsenal player. just been registered for first team , so see what happens
Europe is funding the war not Chelsea football club
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Registered...
more information please.
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So many recent transfers to Europe. I hope and assume this should provide an overall improvement to the team.
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Very interesting article Muz. It will be interesting to follow the growth in participation at the grassroots and see how quickly the best talents move into the elite development pathways. It is also good to see the W-League clubs being let in to the women's competitions at WNPL level and setting up youth teams in that area. I personally think that the Matildas are slowly on the way down at international level and have been for 4 or 5 years but the player migration to football in Europe might hold us where we are until the surge in participation brings new talent.
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