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+x+xTime will tell but I disagree with most of yall. 5 days to acclimatize in the city they will play in will be the best possible preparation. It might be useful to think of "acclimatize" in the broadest possible sense of the word. It might not just about the weather, it could also be about the types of grass used on the playing surface, the experience of bussing around the city, hearing the language, everything. People saying they should acclimatise in Miami might like to consider the fact that they are completely different climates! * Its 1400 km away with a similar latitude difference as Melbourne to Brisbane. * Miami is costal, SPS is inland. * The average high in Miami in November is 27.6, in SPS its 30.2 (plus higher humidity). None of these differences existed between Buenos Aires and Montevideo. Anywhere with good facilities in Mexico or Costa Rica ( or Guatemala or Belize) would either be over ~ 1000 meters altitude (so cooler) or coastal, or desert and still pretty far away for a flight on the day of the match (some people mention camp somewhere else then fly to SPS the day before the match, that defeats the purpose and was never under consideration). The places that could have been good candidates if there was a good reason not to have camp in SPS would be San Salvador El Salvador and Managua Nicaragua. The only knock on San Salvador would be that it is 650 meters altitude so slightly cooler. The only knock on Managua would be that Nica is not a football nation so I am not sure how good facilities would be, I would imagine there would be at least 1 good location for a camp. In both places you would have friendly locals and an extremely short flight. There is all this media hype of the football wars and SPS being a murder capital. I think if the boys can spend 5 uneventful, normal days in the city then any intimidation of the city itself will be gone by match day. If they arrived just before the match the shock and intimidation could be a factor. We can do a lot better this time around than we did in Montevideo 2001, for starters we can have good security at the airport (and\or sneak in) and we can stay somewhere with soundproof windows. Good points, good post. Fantastic insights in that post, but I can't help but still be hesitant to trust the locals. The biggest thing to note is anywhere outside of Honduras has supremely less Hondurans to fxxx with us.
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+xTime will tell but I disagree with most of yall. 5 days to acclimatize in the city they will play in will be the best possible preparation. But they were in Thailand for a whole week and then looked physically exhausted on match day...
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+x+xTime will tell but I disagree with most of yall. 5 days to acclimatize in the city they will play in will be the best possible preparation. It might be useful to think of "acclimatize" in the broadest possible sense of the word. It might not just about the weather, it could also be about the types of grass used on the playing surface, the experience of bussing around the city, hearing the language, everything. People saying they should acclimatise in Miami might like to consider the fact that they are completely different climates! * Its 1400 km away with a similar latitude difference as Melbourne to Brisbane. * Miami is costal, SPS is inland. * The average high in Miami in November is 27.6, in SPS its 30.2 (plus higher humidity). None of these differences existed between Buenos Aires and Montevideo. Anywhere with good facilities in Mexico or Costa Rica ( or Guatemala or Belize) would either be over ~ 1000 meters altitude (so cooler) or coastal, or desert and still pretty far away for a flight on the day of the match (some people mention camp somewhere else then fly to SPS the day before the match, that defeats the purpose and was never under consideration). The places that could have been good candidates if there was a good reason not to have camp in SPS would be San Salvador El Salvador and Managua Nicaragua. The only knock on San Salvador would be that it is 650 meters altitude so slightly cooler. The only knock on Managua would be that Nica is not a football nation so I am not sure how good facilities would be, I imagine there would be at least 1 good location for a camp. In both places you would have friendly locals and an extremely short flight. There is all this media hype of the football wars and SPS being a murder capital. I think if the boys can spend 5 uneventful, normal days in the city then any intimidation of the city itself will be gone by match day. If they arrived just before the match the shock and intimidation could be a factor. We can do a lot better this time around than we did in Montevideo 2001, for starters we can have good security at the airport (and\or sneak in) and we can stay somewhere with soundproof windows. That is a massive if, i have my doubts they'll find a sound proof place and will be looking at 5 sleepless nights, utter chaos going to and from places and every other dirty trick in the book. If they stay at a high end hotel they'd be alright. Have these other marvellous inventions called ear plugs too ... or if you'd prefer you can buy white noise apps for your phone.
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+xTime will tell but I disagree with most of yall. 5 days to acclimatize in the city they will play in will be the best possible preparation. It might be useful to think of "acclimatize" in the broadest possible sense of the word. It might not just about the weather, it could also be about the types of grass used on the playing surface, the experience of bussing around the city, hearing the language, everything. People saying they should acclimatise in Miami might like to consider the fact that they are completely different climates! * Its 1400 km away with a similar latitude difference as Melbourne to Brisbane. * Miami is costal, SPS is inland. * The average high in Miami in November is 27.6, in SPS its 30.2 (plus higher humidity). None of these differences existed between Buenos Aires and Montevideo. Anywhere with good facilities in Mexico or Costa Rica ( or Guatemala or Belize) would either be over ~ 1000 meters altitude (so cooler) or coastal, or desert and still pretty far away for a flight on the day of the match (some people mention camp somewhere else then fly to SPS the day before the match, that defeats the purpose and was never under consideration). The places that could have been good candidates if there was a good reason not to have camp in SPS would be San Salvador El Salvador and Managua Nicaragua. The only knock on San Salvador would be that it is 650 meters altitude so slightly cooler. The only knock on Managua would be that Nica is not a football nation so I am not sure how good facilities would be, I imagine there would be at least 1 good location for a camp. In both places you would have friendly locals and an extremely short flight. There is all this media hype of the football wars and SPS being a murder capital. I think if the boys can spend 5 uneventful, normal days in the city then any intimidation of the city itself will be gone by match day. If they arrived just before the match the shock and intimidation could be a factor. We can do a lot better this time around than we did in Montevideo 2001, for starters we can have good security at the airport (and\or sneak in) and we can stay somewhere with soundproof windows. That is a massive if, i have my doubts they'll find a sound proof place and will be looking at 5 sleepless nights, utter chaos going to and from places and every other dirty trick in the book.
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+xTime will tell but I disagree with most of yall. 5 days to acclimatize in the city they will play in will be the best possible preparation. It might be useful to think of "acclimatize" in the broadest possible sense of the word. It might not just about the weather, it could also be about the types of grass used on the playing surface, the experience of bussing around the city, hearing the language, everything. People saying they should acclimatise in Miami might like to consider the fact that they are completely different climates! * Its 1400 km away with a similar latitude difference as Melbourne to Brisbane. * Miami is costal, SPS is inland. * The average high in Miami in November is 27.6, in SPS its 30.2 (plus higher humidity). None of these differences existed between Buenos Aires and Montevideo. Anywhere with good facilities in Mexico or Costa Rica ( or Guatemala or Belize) would either be over ~ 1000 meters altitude (so cooler) or coastal, or desert and still pretty far away for a flight on the day of the match (some people mention camp somewhere else then fly to SPS the day before the match, that defeats the purpose and was never under consideration). The places that could have been good candidates if there was a good reason not to have camp in SPS would be San Salvador El Salvador and Managua Nicaragua. The only knock on San Salvador would be that it is 650 meters altitude so slightly cooler. The only knock on Managua would be that Nica is not a football nation so I am not sure how good facilities would be, I would imagine there would be at least 1 good location for a camp. In both places you would have friendly locals and an extremely short flight. There is all this media hype of the football wars and SPS being a murder capital. I think if the boys can spend 5 uneventful, normal days in the city then any intimidation of the city itself will be gone by match day. If they arrived just before the match the shock and intimidation could be a factor. We can do a lot better this time around than we did in Montevideo 2001, for starters we can have good security at the airport (and\or sneak in) and we can stay somewhere with soundproof windows. Good points, good post.
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Time will tell but I disagree with most of yall. 5 days to acclimatize in the city they will play in will be the best possible preparation. It might be useful to think of "acclimatize" in the broadest possible sense of the word. It might not just about the weather, it could also be about the types of grass used on the playing surface, the experience of bussing around the city, hearing the language, everything.
People saying they should acclimatise in Miami might like to consider the fact that they are completely different climates! * Its 1400 km away with a similar latitude difference as Melbourne to Brisbane. * Miami is costal, SPS is inland. * The average high in Miami in November is 27.6, in SPS its 30.2 (plus higher humidity).
None of these differences existed between Buenos Aires and Montevideo.
Anywhere with good facilities in Mexico or Costa Rica ( or Guatemala or Belize) would either be over ~ 1000 meters altitude (so cooler) or coastal, or desert and still pretty far away for a flight on the day of the match (some people mention camp somewhere else then fly to SPS the day before the match, that defeats the purpose and was never under consideration).
The places that could have been good candidates if there was a good reason not to have camp in SPS would be San Salvador El Salvador and Managua Nicaragua. The only knock on San Salvador would be that it is 650 meters altitude so slightly cooler. The only knock on Managua would be that Nica is not a football nation so I am not sure how good facilities would be, I imagine there would be at least 1 good location for a camp. In both places you would have friendly locals and an extremely short flight.
There is all this media hype of the football wars and SPS being a murder capital. I think if the boys can spend 5 uneventful, normal days in the city then any intimidation of the city itself will be gone by match day. If they arrived just before the match the shock and intimidation could be a factor.
We can do a lot better this time around than we did in Montevideo 2001, for starters we can have good security at the airport (and\or sneak in) and we can stay somewhere with soundproof windows.
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It'll be fine. Fuck we're a bunch of babies.
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Someone who claimed to have been to Honduras posting on the chat with Davor on the Fox Sports site (can't seem to find it now) seemed to be confident that they would have no problems in the part of town they've apparently booked, being one of those gated estate type places.
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+xTrusting the murder capital of the world to 'play nice' is mindbogglingly naive. I thought we would of learnt our lesson in 2001.
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There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to do this. Ridiculous decision which you'd have to think was somehow made by a non-football person! Why stump the cash to charter a flight for the Syria game only to put a massive question mark for the most important away leg of all??!
Base yourselves out of Costa Rica, Panama, Guatemala or wherever to help acclimatise but you can be guaranteed our boys won't get a wink of sleep, will get food poisoning, will have all their buses break down or get stuck in 'unforseebale' traffic.
Trusting the murder capital of the world to 'play nice' is mindbogglingly naive.
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Apparently Hiddink worked really hard to make sure we avoided all this nonsense for Uruguay, whilst making sure Uruguay experienced as much of it as possible.
All I hope is this decision was run past Ange. If Ange wanted differently, and Gallop & co didn't provide it, then I have lost faith in the management. If Ange gave it the OK, I'm happy (enough) but still am hesitant.
The big question for me is why have i never received an email from the FFA to set up my DJ equipment in a hotel corridor, byo vuvuzela, high beam my car lights into hotel windows, that kind of business? Why aren't we all called upon to fight fire with fire?
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We should set up camp there
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Football War - WikipediaThe Football War (Spanish: La guerra del fútbol), also known as the Soccer War or 100 Hour War, was a brief war fought between El Salvador and Honduras in 1969. Existing tensions between the two countries coincided with rioting during a 1970 FIFA World Cup qualifier. The war began on 14 July 1969, when the Salvadoran military launched an attack against Honduras. The Organization of American States (OAS) negotiated a cease-fire on the night of 18 July (hence "100 Hour War"), which took full effect on 20 July. Salvadoran troops were withdrawn in early August.
Buildup[edit]In June 1969, Honduras and El Salvador met in a two-leg 1970 FIFA World Cup qualifier. There was fighting between fans at the first game in the Honduran capital of Tegucigalpa on 8 June 1969, which Honduras won 1–0. The second game, on 15 June 1969 in the Salvadoran capital of San Salvador, which was won 3–0 by El Salvador, was followed by even greater violence.[4] On 26 June 1969, the day a play-off match was to take place in Mexico City, El Salvador dissolved all diplomatic ties with Honduras, stating that in the ten days since the game in El Salvador 11,700 Salvadorans had been forced to flee Honduras. It said that as Honduras had "done nothing to prevent murder, oppression, rape, plundering and the mass expulsion of Salvadoreans", there was little point in maintaining relations.[5] It further claimed that "the government of Honduras has not taken any effective measures to punish these crimes which constitute genocide, nor has it given assurances of indemnification or reparations for the damages caused to Salvadorans".[6] El Salvador won the decisive third game 3–2 after extra time.
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Why don't the team dress up in disguises while they are there
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By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.
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+x+xyou guys reckon this is an Ange decision or an FFA decision? FFA micromanage everything, from who and where Socceroos play to probably Anges tie choice. yeh, I reckon too, but this is crazy. Miami would have been a sensible choice Well what can we do now? If they play nice we'll play nice. Uruguay didn't get booed during their national anthem (and it got to them) for no reason. The night before the Uruguay game in 05, the Green and Gold Army got their revenge for what happened 4 years earlier. A group of them went to the carpark next to the hotel that Uruguay was staying in,,, and started making alot of noise.. security moved them away... Later on in the middle of the night,, they came back to the car park and lit fireworks,, the lights in the hotel rooms turned on.. mission accomplished I know there are some on this forum that don't like the Green and Gold Army... but I would like to think that they played a part (albeit small), in getting the Socceroos over the line and qualify for 06 WC. well that and the Qantas charter flight with massage tables on it :)
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+xyou guys reckon this is an Ange decision or an FFA decision? FFA micromanage everything, from who and where Socceroos play to probably Anges tie choice. It says in the article "FFA's advance planning team", not to be confused with the FFA's middle and primary planning teams or one of their many consultants.
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It's like he doesn't care or something
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you guys reckon this is an Ange decision or an FFA decision?
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This feels bad. Really bad.
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They'll get less sleep that week than a couple with a newborn
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the ffa have screwed up big time. climatize in bloody miami ffs
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Put the Hatamoto boys on the case for team security lel
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FMD this is asking for trouble.
Surely we could learn from the Mexicans and Americans. How early do they arrive for a home game in Honduras?
Can I place a bet on half the team coming down with "food posioning"?
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This has 2001 written all over it. What did we do in 2005? Wasn't it a smash and grab?
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Those that don't learn the lessons of history are bound to repeat mistakes..
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This is a huge mistake. If you need to set up a base just do it in Costa Rica, althoughy my preferred option would be in the Southern regions of the US, Florida, Southern California or Texas. We need to go in there with a siege mentality, because they will not give us any favours. We are setting up ourselves for failure.
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+xGet ready for sleepless nights, harassment at the airport, extra security at training sessions, and sabotage whenever they travel to and from their hotels. Better be careful what they eat too. I swear to everything holy that if this decision was made by the FFA with the interest of saving money, then they can absolutely go fuck themselves. If this goes wrong and we aren't in the world cup because we get pounded in Honduras due to a week of the shit that we can expect from the Hondurans, none of those fuckers should be allowed near football for the rest of their lives. Seriously, I've pretty much had it with these decisions. Surely 1 night and flying in from Miami would be cheaper and less risk than staying there a week.
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+xThey should prepare in a country next door and jet in the day before. Staying in Honduras for the preceding week is a BAD decision. Costa Rica or Mexico near their southern border would have been a better choice. Miami looked good too. Lots of excellent facilities and a two hour flight away.
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The Socceroos will throw themselves into the fire ahead of their World Cup play-off with Honduras, opting to spend the lead-up week to their away match in the Central American nation.
In doing so, they'll give themselves the best chance to acclimatise.
Cabin feverFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Cabin fever is an idiomatic term for a claustrophobic reaction that takes place when a person or group ends up in an isolated or solitary location, or stuck indoors in confined quarters for an extended period. Cabin fever describes the extreme irritability and restlessness a person may feel in these situations.[1] Cabin fever is also associated with boredom.
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