As it should be. We end up with VAR rewinding the replay for 30 seconds looking for issues. If you can't see anything in VAR within 10 seconds, play on.

Scathing criticism of VAR in the UK press too.   

At what point does FIFA abandon this failed experiment?  Actually, I know the answer to that - when the European leagues swing against it, which certainly looks to be happening.

Can't wait to see the back of it.  Game after game ruined for what?  Correct the very occasional referring error?

There is no "tweaking" VAR.  It's a cumbersone, error prone system that robs supporters and players of the joy of celebrating a goal.

If you look at the linked article I posted below this is IFAB attempting to save VAR from imploding - “the body would reissue guidance on VAR's use after its annual general meeting in February” 

The yellow was most likely for him leaving the field of play.



The arm was in an 'unnatural position'
Unnatural position means making your body bigger. At the angle he was standing at, it probably did look like his arms were tucked into his body. When he turns his body though, his arms come away from his body. That's where the unnatural position comes from.
Although, in saying that, probably makes your last statement spot on.

Arms slightly away from the body is a natural position for a human athlete in motion. Only a cynical sociopath would deem that he was "deliberately making himself bigger." The rule was ok before the change- most refs interpreted it as "hand and forearm, deliberate" and "upper arm and shoulder, non-deliberate". The VAR has made the game into an endless legal debate- we don't need it, we need good refs with common sense.

While jumping with your arms tucked in, its unnatural. If he did the same thing jumping in a wall on a Free Kick, it would be unnatural too

Swedish panel asking for audio now after Southampton City game.

Pretty sure EPL don’t do red interviews.

Can only imagine it will become more of a request after the Grant “tackle”

Can’t remember exact situation but it was for a decision that didn’t go to VAR but ref had contact with VAR ref.

It's clear and obvious that this experiment was not thought out and implemented properly.
The concept was to remove clear and obvious errors or to pick blatant things up that the ref had not seen (eg Henry handball). When the VAR does these things and only these things it will be a success. My opinion is to remove the replay function from the VAR and have them see things in real time and make calls like the other refs.
ATM we have AR told to leave your flag down, pubic hair offside calls, reviewing things from 2 minutes ago and other petty things that as you have stated , ruin the game and it's character.

These millimeter calls in England have been horrible. Reform the rule. As long as any part of the entire attacker is in line with the last body part of the last man it's onside. We'll surely see attackers swinging and arm backwards to keep them on but I think it would increase the pace, panic and excitement. Applaud and reward players who can get that edge on a defender with a well timed run. 

We'll have the issue in reverse asking whether a body part was perhaps still in line with the defender but much less regularly

It is a good tool.

i think much of it has to do with betting, as correct decisions are essential.

Realistically how long before all UEFA nations have it and properly implement it?

This is the growing pains phase.

Don’t know what a solution is.

Do you remove the ref from the decision all together? Just continue playing and have external review until decision is made?

Any one who watches NFL would be familiar with their system

“The NFL’s instant replay review process focuses on expediting instant replay reviews and ensuring consistency. The NFL’s Art McNally GameDay Central in New York uses state-of-the-art technology and communications equipment to consult with replay officials and game officials at each NFL stadium on all instant replay decisions. “
https://operations.nfl.com/the-officials/these-officials-are-really-good/nfl-instant-replay-process/

The core issue with the VAR isn't the technology or the application.  The VAR has come about from the ridiculous desire from some fans to get "perfect" decision making in the application of the rules.  It will never happen.  The moment a rule is open to interpretation (subjective judgement) you will always get conjecture and disagreement.  The only technology (if any) that should be implemented is one that judges objective rulings - ie goal line tech.  The VAR is crap, but the disgraceful part are the fans and commentators that were screaming for its introduction.  

No, it is not a "good tool", it is contrary to the spirit of the game, and it is alienating fans and players. I hope no other nations and leagues ever implement it, and I hope it soon disappears from the leagues that now have it.

Fuck betting and fuck American "football".

It’s not going away.

i think it is a good tool. It just isn’t working properly. The tweaks are a statement that they are trying to make it work. Not that they will revoke it.

i don’t like it. But it is a good tool. There is a difference.

Instead of clearing up issues instantly, the VAR is only adding to the doubt and confusion.

It might be a good tool if it was only used for ball over the line decisions and maybe spotting king hits behind play. Anything else and I'm happy to leave to a human ref. We don't need the VAR disallowing a goal because a player has a little finger in an offside position. The game was not meant to be micro managed like that. I won't be happy until fifa, or whoever is running the game behind the scenes, admit they have made a mistake and ends this shambles.

I think you may be right in that the VAR is biting off more than it can chew. If we must have it, I reckon it should be reduced way down. I think everyone can agree that using the VAR to catch offences that occur behind play is a good idea. They don't happen often, but we do get the occasional elbow thrown out behind play and those offences should absolutely be picked up. I reckon the VAR should also be used for penalty decisions, but only if the on-field ref calls a penalty. If the on-field doesn't point to the spot, then the VAR cannot go and investigate. Even before there was VAR, a penalty always stopped the game for a couple of minutes while the players have a sook, so there is plenty of time for the VAR to review the footage without massive delays. I'd also use the VAR for straight reds, but again only if the on-field ref gives a straight red, not afterwards. If the on-field ref misses a red-card offence in play, then so be it. In these situations, the VAR would be mainly used to confirm whether dangerous contact was made and to pick up on any simulations which can be difficult to see in real-time. I don't think the VAR should be used to check for offsides leading up to a goal. The majority of fans are happy with giving the attacking player the benefit of the doubt when it's super close.

And this is why offsides given for mm's is a joke. https://www.givemesport.com/1498162-there-are-flaws-in-var-that-mean-not-every-offside-decision-will-be-correct

and here.  

https://twitter.com/ben_rumsby/status/1163001872367702017?s=20

To see offsides given for anything less than 10cm is a joke.  Not just because no one has eyesight that good but because not even the technology can differentiate whether it is or isn't offside.

 

And if Georgesvki's was handball (which I don't think it was) then Aldred's arm in the WSW / Roar game should have been given too.  (Not that I thought that was handball either.)

Vision here.  Bozza's bullshit also in that link.  https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/aleague-var-controversy-news-video/news-story/23009550734488052e5c859a6257af8e

Either give them all or give none.  FFS.

Both would have had no discernible impact on the match if play was waved on.  

Yep, that's the first time I've seen the one from last night, and penalty to me as well.

good post I'm with this.

Another good post re VAR AND more so fuck whatever USA does, plastic over hyped WORLD games they reckon, what a load of crap.

My argument isn’t about Americanizing football. It’s about proper implementation of technology.

Here is another opinion. It may be lighter on your palettes -

“Football is getting VAR wrong – it should learn from cricket”

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/sport/2019/06/football-getting-var-wrong-it-should-learn-cricket

Bunch of garbage.  Captains 'reviews' or whatever you want to call them have no place in football. 

And what about the post above proving that VAR can't possibly be accurate in 100% of cases for offside?

Should just focus on how it can be improved instead of when it will be taken away.

A billion times yes.  Every fucker that whinged in the past about 'disgraceful' referee's decisions bears responsibility for this abortion.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wuteWxc7B78

This was at the WC. Luckily Aus won 3-2.... so we don’t have to witness it every time Matildas play at a WC. Like hand of god or even Lampard goal against Germany.

Refs make mistakes like players. Get Var running properly as a support device. The handball would never have been allowed if var was used. 

And if we must have VAR (and I'd rather it was gone altogether), then howlers like this should be all it is used for.

Although in this case, what the hell was the ref doing? Must have just froze due to the bizarre nature of what the player did?

so your in the vein of machines/tech need to run everything in the future because humans make errors.
That is what its all about, the amazing shots, the back and forth, the near miss's, the missed cheat by a player such as Ramos and the likes, human error and this is in the spirit of the game ! and a human trait and we love it win lose or draw.
You win some you lose some, be it refs/linesmen error or not.
Waiting for these offside rulings and all is crap, cop the error on the chin as we have forever, nothing wrong with being human.
Maradona got away with it, x players have got away with murder on the pitch, their supporters love it the opponents don't.
Some think they are very smart getting away with it, vise versa, play to the whistle.
This perfection thing will screw the game up and it already is just as tech one day will run your life in everything making a decision.
Thats what you want eh, shove it up you know what.

People make mistakes

https://klipland.com/video/worst-offside-call-in-football-history