https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AbQ9RFWa5uM

Still not as bizarre as that handball

Mourinho putting the VAR on blast:

In this moment the referees are not the referees. I think the VAR should change their name because ‘video assistant referee’, that’s not true. It should be VR, video referees, because they are the referees, they are the assistant. It is strange because you see the referees on the pitch and they are not the referees, they are the assistant referees. The other guys in [Stockley Park], they are the ones that make the big decisions in the game.

Although that quote will be overshadowed because he also came out with this all-timer:

I think the yellow card is fair because I was rude, but I was rude to an idiot

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jan/01/jose-mourinho-southampton-coach-idiot-var-ballboys

It actually sounds like IFAB get it but the administers in various FA’s don’t:

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/a-league-could-relax-var-offside-calls-after-international-body-criticism-20200103-p53onm.html

“Clear and obvious still remains – it's an important principle. There should not be a lot of time spent to find something marginal”

“If something is not clear on the first sight, then it's not obvious and it shouldn't be considered”

“IFAB general secretary Lukas Brud says such decisions are in breach of the laws of the game which suggest attacking teams be given the benefit of doubt in line-ball situations”

I reckon the VAR should only be allowed to watch the footage at normal speed to see if there was an obvious error.  If it requires the analysis of slow motion footage then it's not an obvious error.

That has some merit.  If it's not clear and obvious at normal speed, well then, it's not clear and obvious.

You never hear the team that got the call complaining. 
His team is underperforming.

What I have been stating since the VAR introduction. One only has to ask NRL supporters to see the detrimental effect of "bunker bullshit"  has on games. What I can't fathom is why learn from your own mistakes when you can learn from others.

Glillet involved to make it worse.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/premier-league/epl-news-var-analysis-referees-kelechi-iheanacho-goal-handball-norwich-vs-leicester-technology-in-sport-football/news-story/7917e94e4eefc3c7ffe06d1ce90c495d

With the score locked at 0-0, the Nigerian challenged for the ball with Norwich defender Ben Godfrey.

In tangling for possession, the ball unintentionally struck the arms of both players before falling at the feet of Iheanacho.

Neither player appealed — why would they?

Gillett is 4th official. He doesn't get access to the video footage. Don't blame him.

Beg your pardon.  Thought he was the VAR bodgey.

huge + 1 for me here......

You get an amen from me.

Said that all along.
They can still have all the angles, but no slo-mo stuff and set-squares to work out how many mm that off-side armpit was.

Yeboah about 2 metres inside the penalty area when Dorrans took the penalty.
VAR completely failed to do his job again.

This VAR system has got to go.

Those sorts of things are not currently within the per view of the VAR. Even if they do spot it as an error, the VAR ref cannot currently do anything about it. It's frustrating, but that's the rules at the moment.

They are within the purview of the VAR.
Just as the VAR can order a retake when the goalkeeper is off his line, the VAR can order a re-take when an attacking player encroaches the area before the kick is taken.
The VAR can check if an offence is committed in the leadup to a goal and pull the ball back to penalise the offence.
In this case, Yeboah clearly entering the area before the ball was kicked was an offence and if seen needed to have the penalty kick re-taken.

The VAR has the power to make that happen and didn't do their job properly here.

You're talking logic. That has no place when it comes to VAR. You're correct that the VAR can check if the keeper is off his line, however not the the attacking players. Not sure what the reason for this is, but apparently that's how it is at the moment.

Did a bit more reading, and it seems that the VAR will only intervene on encroaching attacking players if they effect the penalty kick itself. 

Just checked the wording of the IFAB Laws of the Game Document and the VAR protocol.

The wording in the VAR protocol is: (I've underlined the problematic words)

"The categories of decision/incident which may be reviewed in the event of a potential ‘clear and obvious error’ or ‘serious missed incident’ are:

a. Goal/no goal

• attacking team offence in the build-up to or scoring of the goal (handball, foul, offside etc.)

• ball out of play prior to the goal

• goal/no goal decisions

• offence by goalkeeper and/or kicker at the taking of a penalty kick or encroachment by an attacker or defender who becomes directly involved in play if the penalty kick rebounds from the goalpost, crossbar or goalkeeper".

• Now, this is poorly worded and potentially it conflicts with itself. Encroachment by an attacking player is an offence. If the referee or linesman see it live, they order a re-take. 

Not Aus football directly, but a great example of how much a farce the game has become with VAR is the diabolical situation in the Dortmund - Sevilla ECL game this morning. Apart from everything else in the whole ridiculous saga, it took over 7 minutes from the time that the initial (VAR-determined) penalty offence happened until the retaken penalty was scored. 

Watched that  clip on twitter this morning.  What a joke.

yep its just not football.
Why must change be incurred like in everything today, more so regards to a sport, Tech just isn't suitable to be introduced.
Our game thrives on flow not waiting on decisions - Refs and linos call right or wrong is our game period.

Yep. 

Nobody had an issue with goal line tech as it provided a quick answer on an objective thing: did the ball cross the line or not.

Now we have a situation where we wait several minutes, umming and ahhing about something that is inherently a subjective take on a rule, ie was it intentionally a handball? Was there enough contact for a pen? Etc. On another day another VAR official or ref will make a different decision, just like before.

FIFA obviously know this, hence the promise that VAR was only to be used for "clear and obvious error" yet somehow we are lucky to go a game without VAR influencing the result and a round without a major controversy. 

And this isnt even the worst aspect of VAR for me. Its the way its ruined celebrating a goal. No point going nuts now. Gotta wait for a replay or two to make sure it all looks kosher first. Just like freaking NRL now.

The VAR should be able to look at all available angels - but only once and at normal speed. If the ref has seen it and then the VAR has seen it and not picked it up in their vone viewing at normal speed then it is not clear and obvious.

Better still - get rid of it.

I vote for option 2, although option 1 is much better than what we currently have.

Analysis: Time for VAR-cical VAR to Go - FTBL | The home of football in Australia

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/ken-early-how-can-anybody-think-var-is-an-improvement-1.4605165

Ken Early: How can anybody think VAR is an improvement?

Belgium win over Portugal will be remembered for violent play and poor refereeing

great read he gets it completely.....
It has to go its just so shit its not funny.

Re the 4th official whos normally between/around both coachs/reserves benchs.
Is he giving any feedback back to the ref what he sees ? or just managing coachs outbursts and plea's/subs etcetc.....

Would be happy if they went with reviews for ball over the line, in and out of the penalty box for where the foul was and mistaken identity.  The rest can go.