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https://www.adelaideunited.com.au/news/reds-sign-dzengis-cavusevic-bolster-squad
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We finally made a signing although I was hoping for a 10. Anyway I'm looking forward to seeing him and Georgie playing upfront together,
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From the Swiss second division

Hope he's another one that "finds his level" here
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bohemia - 6 Feb 2018 7:23 PM
From the Swiss second division

Hope he's another one that "finds his level" here

His last club Zurich are in the first division although he has yo-yoed between the two throughout his career.
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What happened to the black guy? (Wasn’t going to post this but how is it really offensive? Honest question?)
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Bozza1# - 6 Feb 2018 8:14 PM
What happened to the black guy? (Wasn’t going to post this but how is it really offensive? Honest question?)

You really could have looked up his name. To answer your question, Baba has been injured and will be out for some time.

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Bozza1# - 6 Feb 2018 8:14 PM
What happened to the black guy? (Wasn’t going to post this but how is it really offensive? Honest question?)

For example, imagine if you reffered to Berisha as "the white guy", not really offensive as much as ignorant.


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Bozza1# - 6 Feb 2018 8:14 PM
What happened to the black guy? (Wasn’t going to post this but how is it really offensive? Honest question?)

Baba (Papa Babacar Diawara) has been injured most of the season and is going to be injured for a while now. He also missed most of preseason after going back to Senegal with his wife to have their first child and then having problems getting a visa to bring the baby back to Australia. He arrived very unfit and it just has not happened, a pity because I think he could have been a good quality A-league striker, he showed enough at the end of last season.
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Bozza1# - 6 Feb 2018 8:14 PM
What happened to the black guy? (Wasn’t going to post this but how is it really offensive? Honest question?)

Well he is a person. The most important thing that has made us apex sentient beings is our brain and thus our ability to think in the abstract. This amazing ability is equal no matter race, creed, skin colour.
Whether it offends the person is up to them, what you said was just ignorant, so if you had doubts its a pretty good indicator to leave it alone.
What many can't understand is why you didn't just look his name up - it takes less than a minute?
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Well at least they’re having a crack for this season.
Could be the missing link they need to really challenge.
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aussie pride - 6 Feb 2018 10:25 PM
Well at least they’re having a crack for this season.Could be the missing link they need to really challenge.

Johan Absalonsen is the missing link to really challenge, get him fit then anything is possible. Having a better striker than Blackwood would help, whether that be Baba or Cavusevic, but it is really quality into the box that the team is lacking.
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Well he is a person. The most important thing that has made us apex sentient beings is our brain and thus our ability to think in the abstract. This amazing ability is equal no matter race, creed, skin colour.
Whether it offends the person is up to them, what you said was just ignorant, so if you had doubts its a pretty good indicator to leave it alone.
What many can't understand is why you didn't just look his name up - it takes less than a minute?

Bah.  It was a descriptor.  Nothing more, nothing less.  Imagine he said 'the red headed bloke' or 'that fella with the rough head'.

Jesus Christ.  That 'black guy' is in no way offensive at all.  Just ridiculous the lengths people will go to be offended on someone else's behalf.

And it's hardly ignorant.  Ignorant would be calling him 'Paul' if his name was Baba.




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Munrubenmuz - 6 Feb 2018 11:24 PM
redcup - 6 Feb 2018 10:05 PM

Bah.  It was a descriptor.  Nothing more, nothing less.  Imagine he said 'the red headed bloke' or 'that fella with the rough head'.

Jesus Christ.  That 'black guy' is in no way offensive at all.  Just ridiculous the lengths people will go to be offended on someone else's behalf.

And it's hardly ignorant.  Ignorant would be calling him 'Paul' if his name was Baba.


or "the white guy".....anyway, Mark Ochieng is still there as far as I know.


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Munrubenmuz - 6 Feb 2018 11:24 PM
redcup - 6 Feb 2018 10:05 PM

Bah.  It was a descriptor.  Nothing more, nothing less.  Imagine he said 'the red headed bloke' or 'that fella with the rough head'.

Jesus Christ.  That 'black guy' is in no way offensive at all.  Just ridiculous the lengths people will go to be offended on someone else's behalf.

And it's hardly ignorant.  Ignorant would be calling him 'Paul' if his name was Baba.


Not wanting to get in to the argument. But just saying, we actually have had a black guy in the aleague. As in, a guy named "Black guy". Isaka Čerňák has a Czech mother, hence being of half African heritage but having a Czech name. The word root is černý which means black. The ák suffix converts the adjective to a person or thing which assumes the form. He's a black guy literally named black guy.

Wouldn't know it from the piss dreadful pronunciation by the commentators though. Sirnack. Lol. Not even farkn close.
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Munrubenmuz - 6 Feb 2018 11:24 PM
redcup - 6 Feb 2018 10:05 PM

Bah.  It was a descriptor.  Nothing more, nothing less.  Imagine he said 'the red headed bloke' or 'that fella with the rough head'.

Jesus Christ.  That 'black guy' is in no way offensive at all.  Just ridiculous the lengths people will go to be offended on someone else's behalf.

And it's hardly ignorant.  Ignorant would be calling him 'Paul' if his name was Baba.


Thank God ..a voice of reason...Black people talk about white guys all the time  ...I get so sick of people jumping on the "I am better than you because I am so non racist" band wagon...there was quite obviously no malice or racist intent in that comment. It was simply a descriptive term to illustrate who he meant .Some of you wankers need to get a life and worry about more important matters .Would you all be jumping up and down if it was a redhead he was describing  ? No... not a word would be mentioned .
BTW...... I suspect his reason for mentioning that he wasn't sure if he should mention it was more to do with knowing there are so many dickheads intent on showing how wonderfully non racist they are at every possible opportunity.
Edit : just realised you also sited "the redhead" analogy ...didn't mean to steal your thoughts .


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miron mercedes - 7 Feb 2018 9:43 AM
Munrubenmuz - 6 Feb 2018 11:24 PM

BTW...... I suspect his reason for mentioning that he wasn't sure if he should mention it was more to do with knowing there are so many dickheads intent on showing how wonderfully non racist they are at every possible opportunity.

To be honest, the poster got exactly what he wanted from the comment. Don't be sucked in.

Exhibit A 
Our country is now a multi cultural country. When did this come about? Who decided this was what we are? It seems like it kinda just popped up sometime in the early 90s. Did you vote about this? 



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Davide82 - 7 Feb 2018 9:48 AM
miron mercedes - 7 Feb 2018 9:43 AM

To be honest, the poster got exactly what he wanted from the comment. Don't be sucked in.

Exhibit A 
Our country is now a multi cultural country. When did this come about? Who decided this was what we are? It seems like it kinda just popped up sometime in the early 90s. Did you vote about this? 



Yeah and a self confessed Trump supporter, his motives and meanings are pretty clear.
Wankers


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Yeah and a self confessed Trump supporter, his motives and meanings are pretty clear.
Wankers

Yep always these sorts of people that make it out like it's so hard to be respectful to others. Such a straight forward process to build a straw effigy and light it.

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Munrubenmuz - 6 Feb 2018 11:24 PM

Thank God ..a voice of reason...Black people talk about white guys all the time  ...I get so sick of people jumping on the "I am better than you because I am so non racist" band wagon...there was quite obviously no malice or racist intent in that comment. It was simply a descriptive term to illustrate who he meant .Some of you wankers need to get a life and worry about more important matters .Would you all be jumping up and down if it was a redhead he was describing  ? No... not a word would be mentioned .
BTW...... I suspect his reason for mentioning that he wasn't sure if he should mention it was more to do with knowing there are so many dickheads intent on showing how wonderfully non racist they are at every possible opportunity.
Edit : just realised you also sited "the redhead" analogy ...didn't mean to steal your thoughts .


I'm with you blokes. People just looking for a reason to be offended on someones behalf so they can claim the holier than thou title. Wankers.
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Munrubenmuz - 6 Feb 2018 11:24 PM
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Bah.  It was a descriptor.  Nothing more, nothing less.  Imagine he said 'the red headed bloke' or 'that fella with the rough head'.

Jesus Christ.  That 'black guy' is in no way offensive at all.  Just ridiculous the lengths people will go to be offended on someone else's behalf.

And it's hardly ignorant.  Ignorant would be calling him 'Paul' if his name was Baba.


Wait was redcup being serious? Thought he was taking the mick
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Looks underwhelming but I would have faith in Kurtz, he seems to know what he is doing.

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When Facebook comments on the announcement have more to do with football than the 442 forum comments, you know it be dark days round here.
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Looks like a big lad so should have no trouble with the physicality of CBs
Blackwood tries but is not strong enough yet, or at least not angry enough yet.

Looks like he can finish the 1 in however many chances he gets the videos don't show so who knows.
I thought Absalonsen crossing to Baba was going to be lethal this season and still feel ripped off that we will never see it. Honestly feel we would be pushing Newcastle had they been fit and firing.

Anyway, all about how quickly this guy fits in now given we have 8(?) games left.
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Give the little fucking pussies a safe space. 



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I said ‘Black guy’ cause I couldn’t be bothered looking it up when I knew saying that then ppl would get who I meant. So by being a Trump supporter you know my motives? I support gay marriage, I support equal rights. By not making a fuss of my post u are supporting equal rights. But no some dickheads had to show that they are do gooders.
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Bozza1# - 7 Feb 2018 12:42 PM
I said ‘Black guy’ cause I couldn’t be bothered looking it up when I knew saying that then ppl would get who I meant. So by being a Trump supporter you know my motives? I support gay marriage, I support equal rights. By not making a fuss of my post u are supporting equal rights. But no some dickheads had to show that they are do gooders.

1. new tab
2. type "adelaide united striker"
3. type his name here

Took me 5 seconds...
I personally don't care how you described him, I just think the fact you couldn't be bothered doing that shows the internet has been wasted on idiots.
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And it takes 2 seconds for people to realise who I’m talking about. Like others have said if I said white cracker,ranga,obese guy. No one would of battered an eye lid. But the same old do gooders found an opportunity to shine.
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Bozza1# - 7 Feb 2018 1:07 PM
And it takes 2 seconds for people to realise who I’m talking about. Like others have said if I said white cracker,ranga,obese guy. No one would of battered an eye lid. But the same old do gooders found an opportunity to shine.

It would take only 1 second to realise who you meant by writing Baba.

It took you longer to type your insincere "i don't know if this is offensive but it's not really" caveat than it did for me to find his name.

So basically you knew what you were doing trying to illicit a response or you are a lazy, useless fuck wit.

I could be sold on either option pretty easily
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Davide82 - 7 Feb 2018 1:01 PM
Bozza1# - 7 Feb 2018 12:42 PM

1. new tab
2. type "adelaide united striker"
3. type his name here

Took me 5 seconds...
I personally don't care how you described him, I just think the fact you couldn't be bothered doing that shows the internet has been wasted on idiots.

Yes, but on the flip side, to-be-internet people used to roam the streets.

Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Yes, but on the flip side, to-be-internet people used to roam the streets.

I actually laughed
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So now I’m a f&@kwit. All because of asking what happened to that black guy. I had no agenda. Just thought writing it might ruffle feathers but f@ck it why should I let them dictate an innocent comment. How many times have you wrote something that not directly what it was but 100% of people not what you mean? Like I said before your just jumping on the ‘hey look I’m a good guy’ wagon. Why should I jump on google just to appease you? Now your calling me a f$&kwit. Who’s the hateful one.
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And the funny thing is it isn’t actually offensive to black people(oh no there I go again. Better jump on your high horse and call me actual offensive names.)
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Bozza1# - 7 Feb 2018 3:21 PM
And the funny thing is it isn’t actually offensive to black people(oh no there I go again. Better jump on your high horse and call me actual offensive names.)

I never said I cared how you described him. 

I just think you are a typical 2018 brained lazy prat and I'm still amused that "jumping on google" is too much work while you're already online dribbling a solid hundred words that it takes too long to google something. 

It's easier than at any time in history to be right about something yet people still choose to be wrong.

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Bozza1# - 7 Feb 2018 3:21 PM

I never said I cared how you described him. 

I just think you are a typical 2018 brained lazy prat and I'm still amused that "jumping on google" is too much work while you're already online dribbling a solid hundred words that it takes too long to google something. 

It's easier than at any time in history to be right about something yet people still choose to be wrong.

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I Googled 'Black guy at Adelaide Utd' because I had no idea who you guys were on about, gave me Ersan Gulum article

Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Buggalugs 2.0 - 7 Feb 2018 6:17 PM
Davide82 - 7 Feb 2018 3:33 PM

I Googled 'Black guy at Adelaide Utd' because I had no idea who you guys were on about, gave me Ersan Gulum article

You had no idea who the black guy was even though he has been named at least twice in this thread, I even gave his full name as well as Baba. Either you are full of bullshit or you have not bothered to read the thread.
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If I must - 7 Feb 2018 6:22 PM
Buggalugs 2.0 - 7 Feb 2018 6:17 PM

You had no idea who the black guy was even though he has been named at least twice in this thread, I even gave his full name as well as Baba. Either you are full of bullshit or you have not bothered to read the thread.

I had not bothered to read whole thread

Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Buggalugs 2.0 - 7 Feb 2018 6:29 PM
If I must - 7 Feb 2018 6:22 PM

I had not bothered to read whole thread

That's fair enough. Its a pretty shit thread. 
Cavusevic looks exciting though and nice vid of him putting his boot through the ball a plenty.
Let's see.
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Bozza1# - 7 Feb 2018 3:17 PM
I had no agenda. Just thought writing it might ruffle feathers 

Well that settles that.


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Davide82 - 7 Feb 2018 3:25 PM
Bozza1# - 7 Feb 2018 3:17 PM

Well that settles that.


Time to talk about football now?

This may spell the end for Blackwood. He's had a fair amount of football at this level and still hasn't found his feet when it comes to scoring goals. I'm sure he's lacking confidence (and this new signing won't help) but I don't know what club would be willing to wait for him to adjust to this level. Might be one to try his hand somewhere like the Malaysian league like Nabbout? Nabbout has shown that promising young players who fizzle can eventually come good, but there isn't enough teams for Blackwood to keep getting chances in Aus.








pro/rel would fix this.
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maxxie - 7 Feb 2018 3:33 PM
Davide82 - 7 Feb 2018 3:25 PM

Time to talk about football now?


This may spell the end for Blackwood. He's had a fair amount of football at this level and still hasn't found his feet when it comes to scoring goals. I'm sure he's lacking confidence (and this new signing won't help) but I don't know what club would be willing to wait for him to adjust to this level. Might be one to try his hand in the Malaysian league like Nabbout? Nabbout has shown that promising young players who fizzle can eventually come good, but there isn't enough teams for Blackwood to keep getting chances in Aus.








pro/rel would fix this.

See it's funny coz he does have 4 in 7 now (4 in 6 before last game) but even in the Wellington game he scored a great goal then missed a sitter.

For a long time Djite didn't score much for us either but he did SO much work off the ball and so much holding up play that it didn't matter as much as he enabled all the attacking mids and wingers to score goals.

Blackwood really needs more mongrel in him. His body language always seems like he doesn't believe he is good enough or that he can win a ball or score a goal. For a big boy he really doesn't throw his weight around enough and take the CBs out of the equation. 

He does some of that and sometimes holds the ball up well but I don't feel like he gets enough out of his size
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Davide82 - 7 Feb 2018 3:37 PM
maxxie - 7 Feb 2018 3:33 PM

See it's funny coz he does have 4 in 7 now (

For a long time Djite didn't score much for us either but he did SO much work off the ball and so much holding up play that it didn't matter as much as he enabled all the attacking mids and wingers to score goals.



Well they mostly missed them too except we couldn't really blame Bruce for that.
We could see he was bringing others into play at least.


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Davide82 - 7 Feb 2018 3:37 PM
maxxie - 7 Feb 2018 3:33 PM

See it's funny coz he does have 4 in 7 now (4 in 6 before last game) but even in the Wellington game he scored a great goal then missed a sitter.

For a long time Djite didn't score much for us either but he did SO much work off the ball and so much holding up play that it didn't matter as much as he enabled all the attacking mids and wingers to score goals.

Blackwood really needs more mongrel in him. His body language always seems like he doesn't believe he is good enough or that he can win a ball or score a goal. For a big boy he really doesn't throw his weight around enough and take the CBs out of the equation. 

He does some of that and sometimes holds the ball up well but I don't feel like he gets enough out of his size

He's not good enough yet to be a regular first team striker for us (hence the need to bring this guy in) but I've been happy enough with him. Mileusnic has pretty average last season but got a lot of game time and is looking better for it....goals scoring aside. Hopefully the same thing happens to Blackwood. Hmm can I say his name or are the SJWs going to get triggered?

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maxxie - 7 Feb 2018 3:33 PM
Davide82 - 7 Feb 2018 3:25 PM

Time to talk about football now?

This may spell the end for Blackwood. He's had a fair amount of football at this level and still hasn't found his feet when it comes to scoring goals. I'm sure he's lacking confidence (and this new signing won't help) but I don't know what club would be willing to wait for him to adjust to this level. Might be one to try his hand somewhere like the Malaysian league like Nabbout? Nabbout has shown that promising young players who fizzle can eventually come good, but there isn't enough teams for Blackwood to keep getting chances in Aus.








pro/rel would fix this.

Blackwood has scored 4 goals in 7 games (and 2 for the Olyroos in that period) and was putting a huge amount of pressure on Djublic when he scored the own goal on the weekend. So his recent goal output has not been bad. I think on the rare occasions Baba has played this season he has been better in general play and able to bring other players into the game more than Blackwood. I doubt Cavusevic is going to do much better than 4 goals in 7 games, but I hope he provides a lot more to the team and perhaps a few assists. Given Cavusevic had 12 goals and 9 assists for FC Zurich in 42 games, including cup games it seems he will offer more than just goal scoring.
Kurz has played 4-4-2 a lot previsously and the signing of Cavusevic as well as Baba and Blackwood might mean the team goes to two strikers up front at some stage. 
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Bozza1 is definitely a racist and a terrible human being. His comment obviously wasn't innocent. He knew exactly what he was trying to do, which was to provoke a response from normal non-racist people so the bigots could shake their heads at all the "triggered SJWs". I'm sure he would have loved to say 'that ******' if he thought he could get away with it. 

Anyone defending him is either a bigot himself or a fucking idiot. 
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Feel a bit sorry for Blackwood in a way but competition is never a bad thing. 
After the bollocking he was getting from Kurtz in the last 15 of last game it will be interesting if the new guy is dropped straight into the starting line-up.


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This thread has given me brain damage.

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Wait now I’m a racist and terrible human being and anyone who defends me is a bigot? . It was a harmless comment. Unbelievable it has come to this. If some see it as nothing they are not bigots.
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Bozza1# - 7 Feb 2018 5:13 PM
Wait now I’m a racist and terrible human being and anyone who defends me is a bigot? . It was a harmless comment. Unbelievable it has come to this. If some see it as nothing they are not bigots.

I wasn't bothered, however as someone pointed out you could have easily looked up his name. but yeah, he's black but not the only one. Move on


On  brighter note - there is this vid on youtube, the guy can strike 



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