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+x+x+x+x+x+xMarki, are you just realusing the The Kennel is full of weirdos. Nothing EVER pleases that bunch and most of the time a lot of them aren't even aware of the sh!t that they waffle. Marki has a shared affinity with them. We could have been 3 from 3 or none from 3..small things change the penthouse to the outhouse. We need a modicum of luck which we haven't had. It’s so true. If the Cows fullback was onside we are zero from three. If Burto could kick goals and the Broncos were penalised for a Shepard we are three from three.
But the problem is. And I surprisingly agree with Marki on this. Is that we can’t score many try’s. And the ones we gave scored have come from individual efforts or a lucky bounce. We haven’t manufactured try’s.
The best try we scored that was called back was when Avo passed to Burto who passed back inside to Dufty. That was a great planned move. And plays like that we’re building between those three. It’s why I have been so upset that Baz dropped Avo.
I get the point. So far Wakeham and Burton haven't struck up the same combination. Now Baz has made the change I want to see Wakeham in the 7 for a few weeks. Against Manly the Offload from our forwards were not so effective, wet conditions a factor. TPJ and King. We have played wet-dry-wet, low scores for and against are partially due to the 2 wet games. Dry-dry-dry gives a much better basis for honing the attack. Against Manly with Hethro went off injured that weakened our pack and rotation, but my impression is that the forwards did not lay much of a platform. This season we have the advantage of strike players who can create tries through individual efforts and we have the pace to score long range tries. We really just need to keep practicing the basics, executing better passing and making smarter decisions. We need to consider the passing from dummy half. Overall a big improvement on last season, to be expected but welcome. We do make chances, we need to get better at taking them and improve the edge defence a bit. I really want us to have moves for both left side attack and right side attack. When we get the ball around halfway or inside opposition half, with a full set of 6, I want to see us try 3 backline moves in the set. We can have a settler or a straight run or a dummy half run in between but it should be something like attack on plays 1, 3 and 5 with a reset play in between. At the moment, it seems there is no plan and when there is no plan, we get Desball and we see 3 or 4 one out settler runs which are easy pickings for the defence and worse of all, gives the opposition plenty of time to number up. We need to incite chaos in the defence. We need to get them when they are struggling to number up or even assess what is coming at them. This is the blueprint of the Storm and more recently the Panthers and is also the reason the Raiders did well afew years back. Against Manly we ran out of juice to attack in the 2nd half. But our side would be improved by 2nd rowers who can hit a hole, RFM and Doorey fit the bill. All our halves Burton, Wakeham, Averillo and BBO can throw a good short pass. Apart from that we need a few plays early in the set with props running hard over the add line or a run from dummy half. A good hooker creates the roll on for his side establishing early momentum. The halves get a rest early in the set while momentum is built. Too many passes being thrown early in a set, after an offload throw the passes. When players get tired they don't have the energy to run hard. The conditions didn't help passes were slower as a result. Keep the faith we mostly have the players, but we might be missing a few things. 1. A good starting hooker - Reed. 2. A good impact 2nd rower - Kicks. 3. A starting prop with good authority- my priority. 4. An experienced elder statesman half- also a priorty -doesn't need to be big dollars or to have succeeded in the NRL previously- mandatory 150+ games of NRL/Super league with least 50 NRL games. When we don't have 1..4 particularly 1. It is going to be a slow grind looking for steady improvement. They are trying we might get there but we are still missing a few key building blocks. Yes. Exactly. Going forward we need an experienced half and intimidating prop. Who’s available?
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+x+x+x+x+xMarki, are you just realusing the The Kennel is full of weirdos. Nothing EVER pleases that bunch and most of the time a lot of them aren't even aware of the sh!t that they waffle. Marki has a shared affinity with them. We could have been 3 from 3 or none from 3..small things change the penthouse to the outhouse. We need a modicum of luck which we haven't had. It’s so true. If the Cows fullback was onside we are zero from three. If Burto could kick goals and the Broncos were penalised for a Shepard we are three from three.
But the problem is. And I surprisingly agree with Marki on this. Is that we can’t score many try’s. And the ones we gave scored have come from individual efforts or a lucky bounce. We haven’t manufactured try’s.
The best try we scored that was called back was when Avo passed to Burto who passed back inside to Dufty. That was a great planned move. And plays like that we’re building between those three. It’s why I have been so upset that Baz dropped Avo.
I get the point. So far Wakeham and Burton haven't struck up the same combination. Now Baz has made the change I want to see Wakeham in the 7 for a few weeks. Against Manly the Offload from our forwards were not so effective, wet conditions a factor. TPJ and King. We have played wet-dry-wet, low scores for and against are partially due to the 2 wet games. Dry-dry-dry gives a much better basis for honing the attack. Against Manly with Hethro went off injured that weakened our pack and rotation, but my impression is that the forwards did not lay much of a platform. This season we have the advantage of strike players who can create tries through individual efforts and we have the pace to score long range tries. We really just need to keep practicing the basics, executing better passing and making smarter decisions. We need to consider the passing from dummy half. Overall a big improvement on last season, to be expected but welcome. We do make chances, we need to get better at taking them and improve the edge defence a bit. I really want us to have moves for both left side attack and right side attack. When we get the ball around halfway or inside opposition half, with a full set of 6, I want to see us try 3 backline moves in the set. We can have a settler or a straight run or a dummy half run in between but it should be something like attack on plays 1, 3 and 5 with a reset play in between. At the moment, it seems there is no plan and when there is no plan, we get Desball and we see 3 or 4 one out settler runs which are easy pickings for the defence and worse of all, gives the opposition plenty of time to number up. We need to incite chaos in the defence. We need to get them when they are struggling to number up or even assess what is coming at them. This is the blueprint of the Storm and more recently the Panthers and is also the reason the Raiders did well afew years back. We need Jackson and our ball players to take the ball all the way to the defensive line before passing. As it is now they pass well before they engage the defenders, so when they pass the defence can simply shuffle across. When Burton and Dufty get the ball we haven't created the overlap for them often enough. I think that is why Burton keeps running it himself. He needs to improve though and either play it short or put a little grubber in behind the line. Everyone is aware his go to play is to take the line on himself.
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dman2018
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xMarki, are you just realusing the The Kennel is full of weirdos. Nothing EVER pleases that bunch and most of the time a lot of them aren't even aware of the sh!t that they waffle. Marki has a shared affinity with them. We could have been 3 from 3 or none from 3..small things change the penthouse to the outhouse. We need a modicum of luck which we haven't had. It’s so true. If the Cows fullback was onside we are zero from three. If Burto could kick goals and the Broncos were penalised for a Shepard we are three from three.
But the problem is. And I surprisingly agree with Marki on this. Is that we can’t score many try’s. And the ones we gave scored have come from individual efforts or a lucky bounce. We haven’t manufactured try’s.
The best try we scored that was called back was when Avo passed to Burto who passed back inside to Dufty. That was a great planned move. And plays like that we’re building between those three. It’s why I have been so upset that Baz dropped Avo.
I get the point. So far Wakeham and Burton haven't struck up the same combination. Now Baz has made the change I want to see Wakeham in the 7 for a few weeks. Against Manly the Offload from our forwards were not so effective, wet conditions a factor. TPJ and King. We have played wet-dry-wet, low scores for and against are partially due to the 2 wet games. Dry-dry-dry gives a much better basis for honing the attack. Against Manly with Hethro went off injured that weakened our pack and rotation, but my impression is that the forwards did not lay much of a platform. This season we have the advantage of strike players who can create tries through individual efforts and we have the pace to score long range tries. We really just need to keep practicing the basics, executing better passing and making smarter decisions. We need to consider the passing from dummy half. Overall a big improvement on last season, to be expected but welcome. We do make chances, we need to get better at taking them and improve the edge defence a bit. I really want us to have moves for both left side attack and right side attack. When we get the ball around halfway or inside opposition half, with a full set of 6, I want to see us try 3 backline moves in the set. We can have a settler or a straight run or a dummy half run in between but it should be something like attack on plays 1, 3 and 5 with a reset play in between. At the moment, it seems there is no plan and when there is no plan, we get Desball and we see 3 or 4 one out settler runs which are easy pickings for the defence and worse of all, gives the opposition plenty of time to number up. We need to incite chaos in the defence. We need to get them when they are struggling to number up or even assess what is coming at them. This is the blueprint of the Storm and more recently the Panthers and is also the reason the Raiders did well afew years back. Against Manly we ran out of juice to attack in the 2nd half. But our side would be improved by 2nd rowers who can hit a hole, RFM and Doorey fit the bill. All our halves Burton, Wakeham, Averillo and BBO can throw a good short pass. Apart from that we need a few plays early in the set with props running hard over the add line or a run from dummy half. A good hooker creates the roll on for his side establishing early momentum. The halves get a rest early in the set while momentum is built. Too many passes being thrown early in a set, after an offload throw the passes. When players get tired they don't have the energy to run hard. The conditions didn't help passes were slower as a result. Keep the faith we mostly have the players, but we might be missing a few things. 1. A good starting hooker - Reed. 2. A good impact 2nd rower - Kicks. 3. A starting prop with good authority- my priority. 4. An experienced elder statesman half- also a priorty -doesn't need to be big dollars or to have succeeded in the NRL previously- mandatory 150+ games of NRL/Super league with least 50 NRL games. When we don't have 1..4 particularly 1. It is going to be a slow grind looking for steady improvement. They are trying we might get there but we are still missing a few key building blocks. Yes. Exactly. Going forward we need an experienced half and intimidating prop. Who’s available? TPJ needs to move to prop now... He'll be there next year anyway... Decent halves are skinny on the ground and I'd hate to us sign the likes of a Croft, Pearce, or the Tigers 7... Apparently Flanno has played well in Reggie's... We know he can lead a pack around the park better than Wakes (a 6) or Avo (4 maybe a 1)... Won't have to do nearly all the kicking... Likely a better goalkicker than Burto... Just needs to take a run and a whack more frequently from last stint... Maybe it's time to bite the bullet... Realistically he couldn't be much worse...
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1. Matt Dufty 2. Braidon Burns 3. Aaron Schoupp 4. Brent Naden 5. Josh Addo-Carr 6. Matt Burton 7. Brandon Wakeham 8. Luke Thompson 9. Jeremy Marshall-King 10. Paul Vaughan 11. Corey Waddell 12. Tevita Pangai Junior 13. Josh Jackson 14. Bailey Biondi-Odo 15. Chris Patolo 16. Max King 17. Ava Seumanufagai 19. Reece Hoffman 20. Jake Averillo 21. Joe Stimson 22. Kyle Flanagan 23. Jayden Okunbor 24. Josh Cook 25. Jackson Topine
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xMarki, are you just realusing the The Kennel is full of weirdos. Nothing EVER pleases that bunch and most of the time a lot of them aren't even aware of the sh!t that they waffle. Marki has a shared affinity with them. We could have been 3 from 3 or none from 3..small things change the penthouse to the outhouse. We need a modicum of luck which we haven't had. It’s so true. If the Cows fullback was onside we are zero from three. If Burto could kick goals and the Broncos were penalised for a Shepard we are three from three.
But the problem is. And I surprisingly agree with Marki on this. Is that we can’t score many try’s. And the ones we gave scored have come from individual efforts or a lucky bounce. We haven’t manufactured try’s.
The best try we scored that was called back was when Avo passed to Burto who passed back inside to Dufty. That was a great planned move. And plays like that we’re building between those three. It’s why I have been so upset that Baz dropped Avo.
I get the point. So far Wakeham and Burton haven't struck up the same combination. Now Baz has made the change I want to see Wakeham in the 7 for a few weeks. Against Manly the Offload from our forwards were not so effective, wet conditions a factor. TPJ and King. We have played wet-dry-wet, low scores for and against are partially due to the 2 wet games. Dry-dry-dry gives a much better basis for honing the attack. Against Manly with Hethro went off injured that weakened our pack and rotation, but my impression is that the forwards did not lay much of a platform. This season we have the advantage of strike players who can create tries through individual efforts and we have the pace to score long range tries. We really just need to keep practicing the basics, executing better passing and making smarter decisions. We need to consider the passing from dummy half. Overall a big improvement on last season, to be expected but welcome. We do make chances, we need to get better at taking them and improve the edge defence a bit. I really want us to have moves for both left side attack and right side attack. When we get the ball around halfway or inside opposition half, with a full set of 6, I want to see us try 3 backline moves in the set. We can have a settler or a straight run or a dummy half run in between but it should be something like attack on plays 1, 3 and 5 with a reset play in between. At the moment, it seems there is no plan and when there is no plan, we get Desball and we see 3 or 4 one out settler runs which are easy pickings for the defence and worse of all, gives the opposition plenty of time to number up. We need to incite chaos in the defence. We need to get them when they are struggling to number up or even assess what is coming at them. This is the blueprint of the Storm and more recently the Panthers and is also the reason the Raiders did well afew years back. Against Manly we ran out of juice to attack in the 2nd half. But our side would be improved by 2nd rowers who can hit a hole, RFM and Doorey fit the bill. All our halves Burton, Wakeham, Averillo and BBO can throw a good short pass. Apart from that we need a few plays early in the set with props running hard over the add line or a run from dummy half. A good hooker creates the roll on for his side establishing early momentum. The halves get a rest early in the set while momentum is built. Too many passes being thrown early in a set, after an offload throw the passes. When players get tired they don't have the energy to run hard. The conditions didn't help passes were slower as a result. Keep the faith we mostly have the players, but we might be missing a few things. 1. A good starting hooker - Reed. 2. A good impact 2nd rower - Kicks. 3. A starting prop with good authority- my priority. 4. An experienced elder statesman half- also a priorty -doesn't need to be big dollars or to have succeeded in the NRL previously- mandatory 150+ games of NRL/Super league with least 50 NRL games. When we don't have 1..4 particularly 1. It is going to be a slow grind looking for steady improvement. They are trying we might get there but we are still missing a few key building blocks. Yes. Exactly. Going forward we need an experienced half and intimidating prop. Who’s available? TPJ needs to move to prop now... He'll be there next year anyway... Decent halves are skinny on the ground and I'd hate to us sign the likes of a Croft, Pearce, or the Tigers 7... Apparently Flanno has played well in Reggie's... We know he can lead a pack around the park better than Wakes (a 6) or Avo (4 maybe a 1)... Won't have to do nearly all the kicking... Likely a better goalkicker than Burto... Just needs to take a run and a whack more frequently from last stint... Maybe it's time to bite the bullet... Realistically he couldn't be much worse... I would like to see Flanno fully rebuild his confidence in reserve grade. I would think about someone like Sezer. Reggies are going well agree about TPJ at prop. But I would like someone like an O'Meley, Asotasi, or Kelly someone who runs harder everytime and hits even harder.
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Marki
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+x+x+x+x+x+xMarki, are you just realusing the The Kennel is full of weirdos. Nothing EVER pleases that bunch and most of the time a lot of them aren't even aware of the sh!t that they waffle. Marki has a shared affinity with them. We could have been 3 from 3 or none from 3..small things change the penthouse to the outhouse. We need a modicum of luck which we haven't had. It’s so true. If the Cows fullback was onside we are zero from three. If Burto could kick goals and the Broncos were penalised for a Shepard we are three from three.
But the problem is. And I surprisingly agree with Marki on this. Is that we can’t score many try’s. And the ones we gave scored have come from individual efforts or a lucky bounce. We haven’t manufactured try’s.
The best try we scored that was called back was when Avo passed to Burto who passed back inside to Dufty. That was a great planned move. And plays like that we’re building between those three. It’s why I have been so upset that Baz dropped Avo.
I get the point. So far Wakeham and Burton haven't struck up the same combination. Now Baz has made the change I want to see Wakeham in the 7 for a few weeks. Against Manly the Offload from our forwards were not so effective, wet conditions a factor. TPJ and King. We have played wet-dry-wet, low scores for and against are partially due to the 2 wet games. Dry-dry-dry gives a much better basis for honing the attack. Against Manly with Hethro went off injured that weakened our pack and rotation, but my impression is that the forwards did not lay much of a platform. This season we have the advantage of strike players who can create tries through individual efforts and we have the pace to score long range tries. We really just need to keep practicing the basics, executing better passing and making smarter decisions. We need to consider the passing from dummy half. Overall a big improvement on last season, to be expected but welcome. We do make chances, we need to get better at taking them and improve the edge defence a bit. I really want us to have moves for both left side attack and right side attack. When we get the ball around halfway or inside opposition half, with a full set of 6, I want to see us try 3 backline moves in the set. We can have a settler or a straight run or a dummy half run in between but it should be something like attack on plays 1, 3 and 5 with a reset play in between. At the moment, it seems there is no plan and when there is no plan, we get Desball and we see 3 or 4 one out settler runs which are easy pickings for the defence and worse of all, gives the opposition plenty of time to number up. We need to incite chaos in the defence. We need to get them when they are struggling to number up or even assess what is coming at them. This is the blueprint of the Storm and more recently the Panthers and is also the reason the Raiders did well afew years back. We need Jackson and our ball players to take the ball all the way to the defensive line before passing. As it is now they pass well before they engage the defenders, so when they pass the defence can simply shuffle across. When Burton and Dufty get the ball we haven't created the overlap for them often enough. I think that is why Burton keeps running it himself. He needs to improve though and either play it short or put a little grubber in behind the line. Everyone is aware his go to play is to take the line on himself. Good observation. It's also why I don't want Flanagan in the side. He's the biggest culprit of passing way too early, especially with that crappy inside pass which fools no one and in fact removes the need for the defence to even slide.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xMarki, are you just realusing the The Kennel is full of weirdos. Nothing EVER pleases that bunch and most of the time a lot of them aren't even aware of the sh!t that they waffle. Marki has a shared affinity with them. We could have been 3 from 3 or none from 3..small things change the penthouse to the outhouse. We need a modicum of luck which we haven't had. It’s so true. If the Cows fullback was onside we are zero from three. If Burto could kick goals and the Broncos were penalised for a Shepard we are three from three.
But the problem is. And I surprisingly agree with Marki on this. Is that we can’t score many try’s. And the ones we gave scored have come from individual efforts or a lucky bounce. We haven’t manufactured try’s.
The best try we scored that was called back was when Avo passed to Burto who passed back inside to Dufty. That was a great planned move. And plays like that we’re building between those three. It’s why I have been so upset that Baz dropped Avo.
I get the point. So far Wakeham and Burton haven't struck up the same combination. Now Baz has made the change I want to see Wakeham in the 7 for a few weeks. Against Manly the Offload from our forwards were not so effective, wet conditions a factor. TPJ and King. We have played wet-dry-wet, low scores for and against are partially due to the 2 wet games. Dry-dry-dry gives a much better basis for honing the attack. Against Manly with Hethro went off injured that weakened our pack and rotation, but my impression is that the forwards did not lay much of a platform. This season we have the advantage of strike players who can create tries through individual efforts and we have the pace to score long range tries. We really just need to keep practicing the basics, executing better passing and making smarter decisions. We need to consider the passing from dummy half. Overall a big improvement on last season, to be expected but welcome. We do make chances, we need to get better at taking them and improve the edge defence a bit. I really want us to have moves for both left side attack and right side attack. When we get the ball around halfway or inside opposition half, with a full set of 6, I want to see us try 3 backline moves in the set. We can have a settler or a straight run or a dummy half run in between but it should be something like attack on plays 1, 3 and 5 with a reset play in between. At the moment, it seems there is no plan and when there is no plan, we get Desball and we see 3 or 4 one out settler runs which are easy pickings for the defence and worse of all, gives the opposition plenty of time to number up. We need to incite chaos in the defence. We need to get them when they are struggling to number up or even assess what is coming at them. This is the blueprint of the Storm and more recently the Panthers and is also the reason the Raiders did well afew years back. Against Manly we ran out of juice to attack in the 2nd half. But our side would be improved by 2nd rowers who can hit a hole, RFM and Doorey fit the bill. All our halves Burton, Wakeham, Averillo and BBO can throw a good short pass. Apart from that we need a few plays early in the set with props running hard over the add line or a run from dummy half. A good hooker creates the roll on for his side establishing early momentum. The halves get a rest early in the set while momentum is built. Too many passes being thrown early in a set, after an offload throw the passes. When players get tired they don't have the energy to run hard. The conditions didn't help passes were slower as a result. Keep the faith we mostly have the players, but we might be missing a few things. 1. A good starting hooker - Reed. 2. A good impact 2nd rower - Kicks. 3. A starting prop with good authority- my priority. 4. An experienced elder statesman half- also a priorty -doesn't need to be big dollars or to have succeeded in the NRL previously- mandatory 150+ games of NRL/Super league with least 50 NRL games. When we don't have 1..4 particularly 1. It is going to be a slow grind looking for steady improvement. They are trying we might get there but we are still missing a few key building blocks. Yes. Exactly. Going forward we need an experienced half and intimidating prop. Who’s available? TPJ needs to move to prop now... He'll be there next year anyway... Decent halves are skinny on the ground and I'd hate to us sign the likes of a Croft, Pearce, or the Tigers 7... Apparently Flanno has played well in Reggie's... We know he can lead a pack around the park better than Wakes (a 6) or Avo (4 maybe a 1)... Won't have to do nearly all the kicking... Likely a better goalkicker than Burto... Just needs to take a run and a whack more frequently from last stint... Maybe it's time to bite the bullet... Realistically he couldn't be much worse... Yes he can Move on
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xMarki, are you just realusing the The Kennel is full of weirdos. Nothing EVER pleases that bunch and most of the time a lot of them aren't even aware of the sh!t that they waffle. Marki has a shared affinity with them. We could have been 3 from 3 or none from 3..small things change the penthouse to the outhouse. We need a modicum of luck which we haven't had. It’s so true. If the Cows fullback was onside we are zero from three. If Burto could kick goals and the Broncos were penalised for a Shepard we are three from three.
But the problem is. And I surprisingly agree with Marki on this. Is that we can’t score many try’s. And the ones we gave scored have come from individual efforts or a lucky bounce. We haven’t manufactured try’s.
The best try we scored that was called back was when Avo passed to Burto who passed back inside to Dufty. That was a great planned move. And plays like that we’re building between those three. It’s why I have been so upset that Baz dropped Avo.
I get the point. So far Wakeham and Burton haven't struck up the same combination. Now Baz has made the change I want to see Wakeham in the 7 for a few weeks. Against Manly the Offload from our forwards were not so effective, wet conditions a factor. TPJ and King. We have played wet-dry-wet, low scores for and against are partially due to the 2 wet games. Dry-dry-dry gives a much better basis for honing the attack. Against Manly with Hethro went off injured that weakened our pack and rotation, but my impression is that the forwards did not lay much of a platform. This season we have the advantage of strike players who can create tries through individual efforts and we have the pace to score long range tries. We really just need to keep practicing the basics, executing better passing and making smarter decisions. We need to consider the passing from dummy half. Overall a big improvement on last season, to be expected but welcome. We do make chances, we need to get better at taking them and improve the edge defence a bit. I really want us to have moves for both left side attack and right side attack. When we get the ball around halfway or inside opposition half, with a full set of 6, I want to see us try 3 backline moves in the set. We can have a settler or a straight run or a dummy half run in between but it should be something like attack on plays 1, 3 and 5 with a reset play in between. At the moment, it seems there is no plan and when there is no plan, we get Desball and we see 3 or 4 one out settler runs which are easy pickings for the defence and worse of all, gives the opposition plenty of time to number up. We need to incite chaos in the defence. We need to get them when they are struggling to number up or even assess what is coming at them. This is the blueprint of the Storm and more recently the Panthers and is also the reason the Raiders did well afew years back. Against Manly we ran out of juice to attack in the 2nd half. But our side would be improved by 2nd rowers who can hit a hole, RFM and Doorey fit the bill. All our halves Burton, Wakeham, Averillo and BBO can throw a good short pass. Apart from that we need a few plays early in the set with props running hard over the add line or a run from dummy half. A good hooker creates the roll on for his side establishing early momentum. The halves get a rest early in the set while momentum is built. Too many passes being thrown early in a set, after an offload throw the passes. When players get tired they don't have the energy to run hard. The conditions didn't help passes were slower as a result. Keep the faith we mostly have the players, but we might be missing a few things. 1. A good starting hooker - Reed. 2. A good impact 2nd rower - Kicks. 3. A starting prop with good authority- my priority. 4. An experienced elder statesman half- also a priorty -doesn't need to be big dollars or to have succeeded in the NRL previously- mandatory 150+ games of NRL/Super league with least 50 NRL games. When we don't have 1..4 particularly 1. It is going to be a slow grind looking for steady improvement. They are trying we might get there but we are still missing a few key building blocks. Yes. Exactly. Going forward we need an experienced half and intimidating prop. Who’s available? TPJ needs to move to prop now... He'll be there next year anyway... Decent halves are skinny on the ground and I'd hate to us sign the likes of a Croft, Pearce, or the Tigers 7... Apparently Flanno has played well in Reggie's... We know he can lead a pack around the park better than Wakes (a 6) or Avo (4 maybe a 1)... Won't have to do nearly all the kicking... Likely a better goalkicker than Burto... Just needs to take a run and a whack more frequently from last stint... Maybe it's time to bite the bullet... Realistically he couldn't be much worse... I would like to see Flanno fully rebuild his confidence in reserve grade. I would think about someone like Sezer. Reggies are going well agree about TPJ at prop. But I would like someone like an O'Meley, Asotasi, or Kelly someone who runs harder everytime and hits even harder. Sezer???... Bloody hell... Next thing some TK 'participants' will be on here saying "sign Lachlan Coote" or "i told ya we shoulda signed Arey" Is Sezer going any good where he is now???... Is he really any better than Flanno???... And when U say fully rebuild confidence for Flanno, what constitutes 'fully'???... As poor as he was last year, he was playing behind a well beaten pack every week, and had not much in the way of support at 6... Of our choices he's the only true 7 in the squad... Baz obviously has his reasons but I was surprised he didn't get first crack with Burto...
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xMarki, are you just realusing the The Kennel is full of weirdos. Nothing EVER pleases that bunch and most of the time a lot of them aren't even aware of the sh!t that they waffle. Marki has a shared affinity with them. We could have been 3 from 3 or none from 3..small things change the penthouse to the outhouse. We need a modicum of luck which we haven't had. It’s so true. If the Cows fullback was onside we are zero from three. If Burto could kick goals and the Broncos were penalised for a Shepard we are three from three.
But the problem is. And I surprisingly agree with Marki on this. Is that we can’t score many try’s. And the ones we gave scored have come from individual efforts or a lucky bounce. We haven’t manufactured try’s.
The best try we scored that was called back was when Avo passed to Burto who passed back inside to Dufty. That was a great planned move. And plays like that we’re building between those three. It’s why I have been so upset that Baz dropped Avo.
I get the point. So far Wakeham and Burton haven't struck up the same combination. Now Baz has made the change I want to see Wakeham in the 7 for a few weeks. Against Manly the Offload from our forwards were not so effective, wet conditions a factor. TPJ and King. We have played wet-dry-wet, low scores for and against are partially due to the 2 wet games. Dry-dry-dry gives a much better basis for honing the attack. Against Manly with Hethro went off injured that weakened our pack and rotation, but my impression is that the forwards did not lay much of a platform. This season we have the advantage of strike players who can create tries through individual efforts and we have the pace to score long range tries. We really just need to keep practicing the basics, executing better passing and making smarter decisions. We need to consider the passing from dummy half. Overall a big improvement on last season, to be expected but welcome. We do make chances, we need to get better at taking them and improve the edge defence a bit. I really want us to have moves for both left side attack and right side attack. When we get the ball around halfway or inside opposition half, with a full set of 6, I want to see us try 3 backline moves in the set. We can have a settler or a straight run or a dummy half run in between but it should be something like attack on plays 1, 3 and 5 with a reset play in between. At the moment, it seems there is no plan and when there is no plan, we get Desball and we see 3 or 4 one out settler runs which are easy pickings for the defence and worse of all, gives the opposition plenty of time to number up. We need to incite chaos in the defence. We need to get them when they are struggling to number up or even assess what is coming at them. This is the blueprint of the Storm and more recently the Panthers and is also the reason the Raiders did well afew years back. We need Jackson and our ball players to take the ball all the way to the defensive line before passing. As it is now they pass well before they engage the defenders, so when they pass the defence can simply shuffle across. When Burton and Dufty get the ball we haven't created the overlap for them often enough. I think that is why Burton keeps running it himself. He needs to improve though and either play it short or put a little grubber in behind the line. Everyone is aware his go to play is to take the line on himself. Good observation. It's also why I don't want Flanagan in the side. He's the biggest culprit of passing way too early, especially with that crappy inside pass which fools no one and in fact removes the need for the defence to even slide. Next it will be "players taking the ball to deep in the line and don't give our outside backs enough early ball and space to use their pace one on one"....
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xMarki, are you just realusing the The Kennel is full of weirdos. Nothing EVER pleases that bunch and most of the time a lot of them aren't even aware of the sh!t that they waffle. Marki has a shared affinity with them. We could have been 3 from 3 or none from 3..small things change the penthouse to the outhouse. We need a modicum of luck which we haven't had. It’s so true. If the Cows fullback was onside we are zero from three. If Burto could kick goals and the Broncos were penalised for a Shepard we are three from three.
But the problem is. And I surprisingly agree with Marki on this. Is that we can’t score many try’s. And the ones we gave scored have come from individual efforts or a lucky bounce. We haven’t manufactured try’s.
The best try we scored that was called back was when Avo passed to Burto who passed back inside to Dufty. That was a great planned move. And plays like that we’re building between those three. It’s why I have been so upset that Baz dropped Avo.
I get the point. So far Wakeham and Burton haven't struck up the same combination. Now Baz has made the change I want to see Wakeham in the 7 for a few weeks. Against Manly the Offload from our forwards were not so effective, wet conditions a factor. TPJ and King. We have played wet-dry-wet, low scores for and against are partially due to the 2 wet games. Dry-dry-dry gives a much better basis for honing the attack. Against Manly with Hethro went off injured that weakened our pack and rotation, but my impression is that the forwards did not lay much of a platform. This season we have the advantage of strike players who can create tries through individual efforts and we have the pace to score long range tries. We really just need to keep practicing the basics, executing better passing and making smarter decisions. We need to consider the passing from dummy half. Overall a big improvement on last season, to be expected but welcome. We do make chances, we need to get better at taking them and improve the edge defence a bit. I really want us to have moves for both left side attack and right side attack. When we get the ball around halfway or inside opposition half, with a full set of 6, I want to see us try 3 backline moves in the set. We can have a settler or a straight run or a dummy half run in between but it should be something like attack on plays 1, 3 and 5 with a reset play in between. At the moment, it seems there is no plan and when there is no plan, we get Desball and we see 3 or 4 one out settler runs which are easy pickings for the defence and worse of all, gives the opposition plenty of time to number up. We need to incite chaos in the defence. We need to get them when they are struggling to number up or even assess what is coming at them. This is the blueprint of the Storm and more recently the Panthers and is also the reason the Raiders did well afew years back. We need Jackson and our ball players to take the ball all the way to the defensive line before passing. As it is now they pass well before they engage the defenders, so when they pass the defence can simply shuffle across. When Burton and Dufty get the ball we haven't created the overlap for them often enough. I think that is why Burton keeps running it himself. He needs to improve though and either play it short or put a little grubber in behind the line. Everyone is aware his go to play is to take the line on himself. Good observation. It's also why I don't want Flanagan in the side. He's the biggest culprit of passing way too early, especially with that crappy inside pass which fools no one and in fact removes the need for the defence to even slide. Next it will be "players taking the ball to deep in the line and don't give our outside backs enough early ball and space to use their pace one on one".... *Too #sorrysteve...
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xMarki, are you just realusing the The Kennel is full of weirdos. Nothing EVER pleases that bunch and most of the time a lot of them aren't even aware of the sh!t that they waffle. Marki has a shared affinity with them. We could have been 3 from 3 or none from 3..small things change the penthouse to the outhouse. We need a modicum of luck which we haven't had. It’s so true. If the Cows fullback was onside we are zero from three. If Burto could kick goals and the Broncos were penalised for a Shepard we are three from three.
But the problem is. And I surprisingly agree with Marki on this. Is that we can’t score many try’s. And the ones we gave scored have come from individual efforts or a lucky bounce. We haven’t manufactured try’s.
The best try we scored that was called back was when Avo passed to Burto who passed back inside to Dufty. That was a great planned move. And plays like that we’re building between those three. It’s why I have been so upset that Baz dropped Avo.
I get the point. So far Wakeham and Burton haven't struck up the same combination. Now Baz has made the change I want to see Wakeham in the 7 for a few weeks. Against Manly the Offload from our forwards were not so effective, wet conditions a factor. TPJ and King. We have played wet-dry-wet, low scores for and against are partially due to the 2 wet games. Dry-dry-dry gives a much better basis for honing the attack. Against Manly with Hethro went off injured that weakened our pack and rotation, but my impression is that the forwards did not lay much of a platform. This season we have the advantage of strike players who can create tries through individual efforts and we have the pace to score long range tries. We really just need to keep practicing the basics, executing better passing and making smarter decisions. We need to consider the passing from dummy half. Overall a big improvement on last season, to be expected but welcome. We do make chances, we need to get better at taking them and improve the edge defence a bit. I really want us to have moves for both left side attack and right side attack. When we get the ball around halfway or inside opposition half, with a full set of 6, I want to see us try 3 backline moves in the set. We can have a settler or a straight run or a dummy half run in between but it should be something like attack on plays 1, 3 and 5 with a reset play in between. At the moment, it seems there is no plan and when there is no plan, we get Desball and we see 3 or 4 one out settler runs which are easy pickings for the defence and worse of all, gives the opposition plenty of time to number up. We need to incite chaos in the defence. We need to get them when they are struggling to number up or even assess what is coming at them. This is the blueprint of the Storm and more recently the Panthers and is also the reason the Raiders did well afew years back. Against Manly we ran out of juice to attack in the 2nd half. But our side would be improved by 2nd rowers who can hit a hole, RFM and Doorey fit the bill. All our halves Burton, Wakeham, Averillo and BBO can throw a good short pass. Apart from that we need a few plays early in the set with props running hard over the add line or a run from dummy half. A good hooker creates the roll on for his side establishing early momentum. The halves get a rest early in the set while momentum is built. Too many passes being thrown early in a set, after an offload throw the passes. When players get tired they don't have the energy to run hard. The conditions didn't help passes were slower as a result. Keep the faith we mostly have the players, but we might be missing a few things. 1. A good starting hooker - Reed. 2. A good impact 2nd rower - Kicks. 3. A starting prop with good authority- my priority. 4. An experienced elder statesman half- also a priorty -doesn't need to be big dollars or to have succeeded in the NRL previously- mandatory 150+ games of NRL/Super league with least 50 NRL games. When we don't have 1..4 particularly 1. It is going to be a slow grind looking for steady improvement. They are trying we might get there but we are still missing a few key building blocks. Yes. Exactly. Going forward we need an experienced half and intimidating prop. Who’s available? TPJ needs to move to prop now... He'll be there next year anyway... Decent halves are skinny on the ground and I'd hate to us sign the likes of a Croft, Pearce, or the Tigers 7... Apparently Flanno has played well in Reggie's... We know he can lead a pack around the park better than Wakes (a 6) or Avo (4 maybe a 1)... Won't have to do nearly all the kicking... Likely a better goalkicker than Burto... Just needs to take a run and a whack more frequently from last stint... Maybe it's time to bite the bullet... Realistically he couldn't be much worse... I would like to see Flanno fully rebuild his confidence in reserve grade. I would think about someone like Sezer. Reggies are going well agree about TPJ at prop. But I would like someone like an O'Meley, Asotasi, or Kelly someone who runs harder everytime and hits even harder. Sezer???... Bloody hell... Next thing some TK 'participants' will be on here saying "sign Lachlan Coote" or "i told ya we shoulda signed Arey" Is Sezer going any good where he is now???... Is he really any better than Flanno???... And when U say fully rebuild confidence for Flanno, what constitutes 'fully'???... As poor as he was last year, he was playing behind a well beaten pack every week, and had not much in the way of support at 6... Of our choices he's the only true 7 in the squad... Baz obviously has his reasons but I was surprised he didn't get first crack with Burto... "Fully" is another word HD uses for Never. It's like the James bond film Fully say Fully again. In the context of Flanagan, it means Never to play first grade for the Dogs again.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xMarki, are you just realusing the The Kennel is full of weirdos. Nothing EVER pleases that bunch and most of the time a lot of them aren't even aware of the sh!t that they waffle. Marki has a shared affinity with them. We could have been 3 from 3 or none from 3..small things change the penthouse to the outhouse. We need a modicum of luck which we haven't had. It’s so true. If the Cows fullback was onside we are zero from three. If Burto could kick goals and the Broncos were penalised for a Shepard we are three from three.
But the problem is. And I surprisingly agree with Marki on this. Is that we can’t score many try’s. And the ones we gave scored have come from individual efforts or a lucky bounce. We haven’t manufactured try’s.
The best try we scored that was called back was when Avo passed to Burto who passed back inside to Dufty. That was a great planned move. And plays like that we’re building between those three. It’s why I have been so upset that Baz dropped Avo.
I get the point. So far Wakeham and Burton haven't struck up the same combination. Now Baz has made the change I want to see Wakeham in the 7 for a few weeks. Against Manly the Offload from our forwards were not so effective, wet conditions a factor. TPJ and King. We have played wet-dry-wet, low scores for and against are partially due to the 2 wet games. Dry-dry-dry gives a much better basis for honing the attack. Against Manly with Hethro went off injured that weakened our pack and rotation, but my impression is that the forwards did not lay much of a platform. This season we have the advantage of strike players who can create tries through individual efforts and we have the pace to score long range tries. We really just need to keep practicing the basics, executing better passing and making smarter decisions. We need to consider the passing from dummy half. Overall a big improvement on last season, to be expected but welcome. We do make chances, we need to get better at taking them and improve the edge defence a bit. I really want us to have moves for both left side attack and right side attack. When we get the ball around halfway or inside opposition half, with a full set of 6, I want to see us try 3 backline moves in the set. We can have a settler or a straight run or a dummy half run in between but it should be something like attack on plays 1, 3 and 5 with a reset play in between. At the moment, it seems there is no plan and when there is no plan, we get Desball and we see 3 or 4 one out settler runs which are easy pickings for the defence and worse of all, gives the opposition plenty of time to number up. We need to incite chaos in the defence. We need to get them when they are struggling to number up or even assess what is coming at them. This is the blueprint of the Storm and more recently the Panthers and is also the reason the Raiders did well afew years back. Against Manly we ran out of juice to attack in the 2nd half. But our side would be improved by 2nd rowers who can hit a hole, RFM and Doorey fit the bill. All our halves Burton, Wakeham, Averillo and BBO can throw a good short pass. Apart from that we need a few plays early in the set with props running hard over the add line or a run from dummy half. A good hooker creates the roll on for his side establishing early momentum. The halves get a rest early in the set while momentum is built. Too many passes being thrown early in a set, after an offload throw the passes. When players get tired they don't have the energy to run hard. The conditions didn't help passes were slower as a result. Keep the faith we mostly have the players, but we might be missing a few things. 1. A good starting hooker - Reed. 2. A good impact 2nd rower - Kicks. 3. A starting prop with good authority- my priority. 4. An experienced elder statesman half- also a priorty -doesn't need to be big dollars or to have succeeded in the NRL previously- mandatory 150+ games of NRL/Super league with least 50 NRL games. When we don't have 1..4 particularly 1. It is going to be a slow grind looking for steady improvement. They are trying we might get there but we are still missing a few key building blocks. Yes. Exactly. Going forward we need an experienced half and intimidating prop. Who’s available? TPJ needs to move to prop now... He'll be there next year anyway... Decent halves are skinny on the ground and I'd hate to us sign the likes of a Croft, Pearce, or the Tigers 7... Apparently Flanno has played well in Reggie's... We know he can lead a pack around the park better than Wakes (a 6) or Avo (4 maybe a 1)... Won't have to do nearly all the kicking... Likely a better goalkicker than Burto... Just needs to take a run and a whack more frequently from last stint... Maybe it's time to bite the bullet... Realistically he couldn't be much worse... I would like to see Flanno fully rebuild his confidence in reserve grade. I would think about someone like Sezer. Reggies are going well agree about TPJ at prop. But I would like someone like an O'Meley, Asotasi, or Kelly someone who runs harder everytime and hits even harder. Sezer???... Bloody hell... Next thing some TK 'participants' will be on here saying "sign Lachlan Coote" or "i told ya we shoulda signed Arey" Is Sezer going any good where he is now???... Is he really any better than Flanno???... And when U say fully rebuild confidence for Flanno, what constitutes 'fully'???... As poor as he was last year, he was playing behind a well beaten pack every week, and had not much in the way of support at 6... Of our choices he's the only true 7 in the squad... Baz obviously has his reasons but I was surprised he didn't get first crack with Burto... Averillo also played behind that pack and did it well. Was our only shining light. Your argument is quashed.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xMarki, are you just realusing the The Kennel is full of weirdos. Nothing EVER pleases that bunch and most of the time a lot of them aren't even aware of the sh!t that they waffle. Marki has a shared affinity with them. We could have been 3 from 3 or none from 3..small things change the penthouse to the outhouse. We need a modicum of luck which we haven't had. It’s so true. If the Cows fullback was onside we are zero from three. If Burto could kick goals and the Broncos were penalised for a Shepard we are three from three.
But the problem is. And I surprisingly agree with Marki on this. Is that we can’t score many try’s. And the ones we gave scored have come from individual efforts or a lucky bounce. We haven’t manufactured try’s.
The best try we scored that was called back was when Avo passed to Burto who passed back inside to Dufty. That was a great planned move. And plays like that we’re building between those three. It’s why I have been so upset that Baz dropped Avo.
I get the point. So far Wakeham and Burton haven't struck up the same combination. Now Baz has made the change I want to see Wakeham in the 7 for a few weeks. Against Manly the Offload from our forwards were not so effective, wet conditions a factor. TPJ and King. We have played wet-dry-wet, low scores for and against are partially due to the 2 wet games. Dry-dry-dry gives a much better basis for honing the attack. Against Manly with Hethro went off injured that weakened our pack and rotation, but my impression is that the forwards did not lay much of a platform. This season we have the advantage of strike players who can create tries through individual efforts and we have the pace to score long range tries. We really just need to keep practicing the basics, executing better passing and making smarter decisions. We need to consider the passing from dummy half. Overall a big improvement on last season, to be expected but welcome. We do make chances, we need to get better at taking them and improve the edge defence a bit. I really want us to have moves for both left side attack and right side attack. When we get the ball around halfway or inside opposition half, with a full set of 6, I want to see us try 3 backline moves in the set. We can have a settler or a straight run or a dummy half run in between but it should be something like attack on plays 1, 3 and 5 with a reset play in between. At the moment, it seems there is no plan and when there is no plan, we get Desball and we see 3 or 4 one out settler runs which are easy pickings for the defence and worse of all, gives the opposition plenty of time to number up. We need to incite chaos in the defence. We need to get them when they are struggling to number up or even assess what is coming at them. This is the blueprint of the Storm and more recently the Panthers and is also the reason the Raiders did well afew years back. We need Jackson and our ball players to take the ball all the way to the defensive line before passing. As it is now they pass well before they engage the defenders, so when they pass the defence can simply shuffle across. When Burton and Dufty get the ball we haven't created the overlap for them often enough. I think that is why Burton keeps running it himself. He needs to improve though and either play it short or put a little grubber in behind the line. Everyone is aware his go to play is to take the line on himself. Good observation. It's also why I don't want Flanagan in the side. He's the biggest culprit of passing way too early, especially with that crappy inside pass which fools no one and in fact removes the need for the defence to even slide. Next it will be "players taking the ball to deep in the line and don't give our outside backs enough early ball and space to use their pace one on one".... *Too #sorrysteve... Why only apologise to Steve? Im equally disgusted!
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xMarki, are you just realusing the The Kennel is full of weirdos. Nothing EVER pleases that bunch and most of the time a lot of them aren't even aware of the sh!t that they waffle. Marki has a shared affinity with them. We could have been 3 from 3 or none from 3..small things change the penthouse to the outhouse. We need a modicum of luck which we haven't had. It’s so true. If the Cows fullback was onside we are zero from three. If Burto could kick goals and the Broncos were penalised for a Shepard we are three from three.
But the problem is. And I surprisingly agree with Marki on this. Is that we can’t score many try’s. And the ones we gave scored have come from individual efforts or a lucky bounce. We haven’t manufactured try’s.
The best try we scored that was called back was when Avo passed to Burto who passed back inside to Dufty. That was a great planned move. And plays like that we’re building between those three. It’s why I have been so upset that Baz dropped Avo.
I get the point. So far Wakeham and Burton haven't struck up the same combination. Now Baz has made the change I want to see Wakeham in the 7 for a few weeks. Against Manly the Offload from our forwards were not so effective, wet conditions a factor. TPJ and King. We have played wet-dry-wet, low scores for and against are partially due to the 2 wet games. Dry-dry-dry gives a much better basis for honing the attack. Against Manly with Hethro went off injured that weakened our pack and rotation, but my impression is that the forwards did not lay much of a platform. This season we have the advantage of strike players who can create tries through individual efforts and we have the pace to score long range tries. We really just need to keep practicing the basics, executing better passing and making smarter decisions. We need to consider the passing from dummy half. Overall a big improvement on last season, to be expected but welcome. We do make chances, we need to get better at taking them and improve the edge defence a bit. I really want us to have moves for both left side attack and right side attack. When we get the ball around halfway or inside opposition half, with a full set of 6, I want to see us try 3 backline moves in the set. We can have a settler or a straight run or a dummy half run in between but it should be something like attack on plays 1, 3 and 5 with a reset play in between. At the moment, it seems there is no plan and when there is no plan, we get Desball and we see 3 or 4 one out settler runs which are easy pickings for the defence and worse of all, gives the opposition plenty of time to number up. We need to incite chaos in the defence. We need to get them when they are struggling to number up or even assess what is coming at them. This is the blueprint of the Storm and more recently the Panthers and is also the reason the Raiders did well afew years back. We need Jackson and our ball players to take the ball all the way to the defensive line before passing. As it is now they pass well before they engage the defenders, so when they pass the defence can simply shuffle across. When Burton and Dufty get the ball we haven't created the overlap for them often enough. I think that is why Burton keeps running it himself. He needs to improve though and either play it short or put a little grubber in behind the line. Everyone is aware his go to play is to take the line on himself. Good observation. It's also why I don't want Flanagan in the side. He's the biggest culprit of passing way too early, especially with that crappy inside pass which fools no one and in fact removes the need for the defence to even slide. Next it will be "players taking the ball to deep in the line and don't give our outside backs enough early ball and space to use their pace one on one".... *Too #sorrysteve... Why only apologise to Steve? Im equally disgusted! Your disgust is "undefendable"...
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xMarki, are you just realusing the The Kennel is full of weirdos. Nothing EVER pleases that bunch and most of the time a lot of them aren't even aware of the sh!t that they waffle. Marki has a shared affinity with them. We could have been 3 from 3 or none from 3..small things change the penthouse to the outhouse. We need a modicum of luck which we haven't had. It’s so true. If the Cows fullback was onside we are zero from three. If Burto could kick goals and the Broncos were penalised for a Shepard we are three from three.
But the problem is. And I surprisingly agree with Marki on this. Is that we can’t score many try’s. And the ones we gave scored have come from individual efforts or a lucky bounce. We haven’t manufactured try’s.
The best try we scored that was called back was when Avo passed to Burto who passed back inside to Dufty. That was a great planned move. And plays like that we’re building between those three. It’s why I have been so upset that Baz dropped Avo.
I get the point. So far Wakeham and Burton haven't struck up the same combination. Now Baz has made the change I want to see Wakeham in the 7 for a few weeks. Against Manly the Offload from our forwards were not so effective, wet conditions a factor. TPJ and King. We have played wet-dry-wet, low scores for and against are partially due to the 2 wet games. Dry-dry-dry gives a much better basis for honing the attack. Against Manly with Hethro went off injured that weakened our pack and rotation, but my impression is that the forwards did not lay much of a platform. This season we have the advantage of strike players who can create tries through individual efforts and we have the pace to score long range tries. We really just need to keep practicing the basics, executing better passing and making smarter decisions. We need to consider the passing from dummy half. Overall a big improvement on last season, to be expected but welcome. We do make chances, we need to get better at taking them and improve the edge defence a bit. I really want us to have moves for both left side attack and right side attack. When we get the ball around halfway or inside opposition half, with a full set of 6, I want to see us try 3 backline moves in the set. We can have a settler or a straight run or a dummy half run in between but it should be something like attack on plays 1, 3 and 5 with a reset play in between. At the moment, it seems there is no plan and when there is no plan, we get Desball and we see 3 or 4 one out settler runs which are easy pickings for the defence and worse of all, gives the opposition plenty of time to number up. We need to incite chaos in the defence. We need to get them when they are struggling to number up or even assess what is coming at them. This is the blueprint of the Storm and more recently the Panthers and is also the reason the Raiders did well afew years back. Against Manly we ran out of juice to attack in the 2nd half. But our side would be improved by 2nd rowers who can hit a hole, RFM and Doorey fit the bill. All our halves Burton, Wakeham, Averillo and BBO can throw a good short pass. Apart from that we need a few plays early in the set with props running hard over the add line or a run from dummy half. A good hooker creates the roll on for his side establishing early momentum. The halves get a rest early in the set while momentum is built. Too many passes being thrown early in a set, after an offload throw the passes. When players get tired they don't have the energy to run hard. The conditions didn't help passes were slower as a result. Keep the faith we mostly have the players, but we might be missing a few things. 1. A good starting hooker - Reed. 2. A good impact 2nd rower - Kicks. 3. A starting prop with good authority- my priority. 4. An experienced elder statesman half- also a priorty -doesn't need to be big dollars or to have succeeded in the NRL previously- mandatory 150+ games of NRL/Super league with least 50 NRL games. When we don't have 1..4 particularly 1. It is going to be a slow grind looking for steady improvement. They are trying we might get there but we are still missing a few key building blocks. Yes. Exactly. Going forward we need an experienced half and intimidating prop. Who’s available? TPJ needs to move to prop now... He'll be there next year anyway... Decent halves are skinny on the ground and I'd hate to us sign the likes of a Croft, Pearce, or the Tigers 7... Apparently Flanno has played well in Reggie's... We know he can lead a pack around the park better than Wakes (a 6) or Avo (4 maybe a 1)... Won't have to do nearly all the kicking... Likely a better goalkicker than Burto... Just needs to take a run and a whack more frequently from last stint... Maybe it's time to bite the bullet... Realistically he couldn't be much worse... I would like to see Flanno fully rebuild his confidence in reserve grade. I would think about someone like Sezer. Reggies are going well agree about TPJ at prop. But I would like someone like an O'Meley, Asotasi, or Kelly someone who runs harder everytime and hits even harder. Sezer???... Bloody hell... Next thing some TK 'participants' will be on here saying "sign Lachlan Coote" or "i told ya we shoulda signed Arey" Is Sezer going any good where he is now???... Is he really any better than Flanno???... And when U say fully rebuild confidence for Flanno, what constitutes 'fully'???... As poor as he was last year, he was playing behind a well beaten pack every week, and had not much in the way of support at 6... Of our choices he's the only true 7 in the squad... Baz obviously has his reasons but I was surprised he didn't get first crack with Burto... Averillo also played behind that pack and did it well. Was our only shining light. Your argument is quashed. Yes, I remember your many comments throughout the year exalting his luminescence...
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xMarki, are you just realusing the The Kennel is full of weirdos. Nothing EVER pleases that bunch and most of the time a lot of them aren't even aware of the sh!t that they waffle. Marki has a shared affinity with them. We could have been 3 from 3 or none from 3..small things change the penthouse to the outhouse. We need a modicum of luck which we haven't had. It’s so true. If the Cows fullback was onside we are zero from three. If Burto could kick goals and the Broncos were penalised for a Shepard we are three from three.
But the problem is. And I surprisingly agree with Marki on this. Is that we can’t score many try’s. And the ones we gave scored have come from individual efforts or a lucky bounce. We haven’t manufactured try’s.
The best try we scored that was called back was when Avo passed to Burto who passed back inside to Dufty. That was a great planned move. And plays like that we’re building between those three. It’s why I have been so upset that Baz dropped Avo.
I get the point. So far Wakeham and Burton haven't struck up the same combination. Now Baz has made the change I want to see Wakeham in the 7 for a few weeks. Against Manly the Offload from our forwards were not so effective, wet conditions a factor. TPJ and King. We have played wet-dry-wet, low scores for and against are partially due to the 2 wet games. Dry-dry-dry gives a much better basis for honing the attack. Against Manly with Hethro went off injured that weakened our pack and rotation, but my impression is that the forwards did not lay much of a platform. This season we have the advantage of strike players who can create tries through individual efforts and we have the pace to score long range tries. We really just need to keep practicing the basics, executing better passing and making smarter decisions. We need to consider the passing from dummy half. Overall a big improvement on last season, to be expected but welcome. We do make chances, we need to get better at taking them and improve the edge defence a bit. I really want us to have moves for both left side attack and right side attack. When we get the ball around halfway or inside opposition half, with a full set of 6, I want to see us try 3 backline moves in the set. We can have a settler or a straight run or a dummy half run in between but it should be something like attack on plays 1, 3 and 5 with a reset play in between. At the moment, it seems there is no plan and when there is no plan, we get Desball and we see 3 or 4 one out settler runs which are easy pickings for the defence and worse of all, gives the opposition plenty of time to number up. We need to incite chaos in the defence. We need to get them when they are struggling to number up or even assess what is coming at them. This is the blueprint of the Storm and more recently the Panthers and is also the reason the Raiders did well afew years back. We need Jackson and our ball players to take the ball all the way to the defensive line before passing. As it is now they pass well before they engage the defenders, so when they pass the defence can simply shuffle across. When Burton and Dufty get the ball we haven't created the overlap for them often enough. I think that is why Burton keeps running it himself. He needs to improve though and either play it short or put a little grubber in behind the line. Everyone is aware his go to play is to take the line on himself. Good observation. It's also why I don't want Flanagan in the side. He's the biggest culprit of passing way too early, especially with that crappy inside pass which fools no one and in fact removes the need for the defence to even slide. Next it will be "players taking the ball to deep in the line and don't give our outside backs enough early ball and space to use their pace one on one".... The good ones read the game and can do both.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xMarki, are you just realusing the The Kennel is full of weirdos. Nothing EVER pleases that bunch and most of the time a lot of them aren't even aware of the sh!t that they waffle. Marki has a shared affinity with them. We could have been 3 from 3 or none from 3..small things change the penthouse to the outhouse. We need a modicum of luck which we haven't had. It’s so true. If the Cows fullback was onside we are zero from three. If Burto could kick goals and the Broncos were penalised for a Shepard we are three from three.
But the problem is. And I surprisingly agree with Marki on this. Is that we can’t score many try’s. And the ones we gave scored have come from individual efforts or a lucky bounce. We haven’t manufactured try’s.
The best try we scored that was called back was when Avo passed to Burto who passed back inside to Dufty. That was a great planned move. And plays like that we’re building between those three. It’s why I have been so upset that Baz dropped Avo.
I get the point. So far Wakeham and Burton haven't struck up the same combination. Now Baz has made the change I want to see Wakeham in the 7 for a few weeks. Against Manly the Offload from our forwards were not so effective, wet conditions a factor. TPJ and King. We have played wet-dry-wet, low scores for and against are partially due to the 2 wet games. Dry-dry-dry gives a much better basis for honing the attack. Against Manly with Hethro went off injured that weakened our pack and rotation, but my impression is that the forwards did not lay much of a platform. This season we have the advantage of strike players who can create tries through individual efforts and we have the pace to score long range tries. We really just need to keep practicing the basics, executing better passing and making smarter decisions. We need to consider the passing from dummy half. Overall a big improvement on last season, to be expected but welcome. We do make chances, we need to get better at taking them and improve the edge defence a bit. I really want us to have moves for both left side attack and right side attack. When we get the ball around halfway or inside opposition half, with a full set of 6, I want to see us try 3 backline moves in the set. We can have a settler or a straight run or a dummy half run in between but it should be something like attack on plays 1, 3 and 5 with a reset play in between. At the moment, it seems there is no plan and when there is no plan, we get Desball and we see 3 or 4 one out settler runs which are easy pickings for the defence and worse of all, gives the opposition plenty of time to number up. We need to incite chaos in the defence. We need to get them when they are struggling to number up or even assess what is coming at them. This is the blueprint of the Storm and more recently the Panthers and is also the reason the Raiders did well afew years back. Against Manly we ran out of juice to attack in the 2nd half. But our side would be improved by 2nd rowers who can hit a hole, RFM and Doorey fit the bill. All our halves Burton, Wakeham, Averillo and BBO can throw a good short pass. Apart from that we need a few plays early in the set with props running hard over the add line or a run from dummy half. A good hooker creates the roll on for his side establishing early momentum. The halves get a rest early in the set while momentum is built. Too many passes being thrown early in a set, after an offload throw the passes. When players get tired they don't have the energy to run hard. The conditions didn't help passes were slower as a result. Keep the faith we mostly have the players, but we might be missing a few things. 1. A good starting hooker - Reed. 2. A good impact 2nd rower - Kicks. 3. A starting prop with good authority- my priority. 4. An experienced elder statesman half- also a priorty -doesn't need to be big dollars or to have succeeded in the NRL previously- mandatory 150+ games of NRL/Super league with least 50 NRL games. When we don't have 1..4 particularly 1. It is going to be a slow grind looking for steady improvement. They are trying we might get there but we are still missing a few key building blocks. Yes. Exactly. Going forward we need an experienced half and intimidating prop. Who’s available? TPJ needs to move to prop now... He'll be there next year anyway... Decent halves are skinny on the ground and I'd hate to us sign the likes of a Croft, Pearce, or the Tigers 7... Apparently Flanno has played well in Reggie's... We know he can lead a pack around the park better than Wakes (a 6) or Avo (4 maybe a 1)... Won't have to do nearly all the kicking... Likely a better goalkicker than Burto... Just needs to take a run and a whack more frequently from last stint... Maybe it's time to bite the bullet... Realistically he couldn't be much worse... I would like to see Flanno fully rebuild his confidence in reserve grade. I would think about someone like Sezer. Reggies are going well agree about TPJ at prop. But I would like someone like an O'Meley, Asotasi, or Kelly someone who runs harder everytime and hits even harder. Sezer???... Bloody hell... Next thing some TK 'participants' will be on here saying "sign Lachlan Coote" or "i told ya we shoulda signed Arey" Is Sezer going any good where he is now???... Is he really any better than Flanno???... And when U say fully rebuild confidence for Flanno, what constitutes 'fully'???... As poor as he was last year, he was playing behind a well beaten pack every week, and had not much in the way of support at 6... Of our choices he's the only true 7 in the squad... Baz obviously has his reasons but I was surprised he didn't get first crack with Burto... Sezer is experienced which is what we need. Flanno is going better, but he was totally shot and clueless last season. 1. He needs to fully earn the right to a shot with consistent quality performances. 2. It is easier to fix and improve his game in reserve grade. 3. It is better to build the team into a stronger unit before he comes back. If Flanno is the future rushing him, risks him falling apart under pressure again. But the value of an organising half is way overstated, thst often just means a half with a limited toolkit plays smart, makes good decisions and executes. Goal kicking sure he is the best in the side. General play long kicks and bombs Burton. General play short kicks all about the same. Passing - Flanno looked good in reserve grade, but Averillo, Wakeham and BBO naturally play square and have good play making instincts. I'm not 100% sold on Burton's passing he needs to improve. At best Flanno is slightly better than Burton and worse than the others on proven NRL form. Reserve grade form, Flanno possibly the best. There is a gap between first grade and reserve grade and the good plays make the highlights. Running - all of the others are way better than Flanno, he is close to zero threat running the ball from what I have seen. What Sezer would add, smart, experienced, good kicking game, good goal kicker, handy ball runner. In particular if Burton was out, I would want Sezer in the side. In terms of their ceiling as a half Wakeham has a high ceiling and could even be a future SOO half, IMO Flanno will only ever be a solid NRL half, totally lacking the running game and instincts to be a class player. Averillo has a high ceiling, but probably isn't a 7. I am not writing Flanno off, if he comes good and performs consistently we don't need Sezer, but I'll need to see more than 1-2 good games in a dominant reserve grade side.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xMarki, are you just realusing the The Kennel is full of weirdos. Nothing EVER pleases that bunch and most of the time a lot of them aren't even aware of the sh!t that they waffle. Marki has a shared affinity with them. We could have been 3 from 3 or none from 3..small things change the penthouse to the outhouse. We need a modicum of luck which we haven't had. It’s so true. If the Cows fullback was onside we are zero from three. If Burto could kick goals and the Broncos were penalised for a Shepard we are three from three.
But the problem is. And I surprisingly agree with Marki on this. Is that we can’t score many try’s. And the ones we gave scored have come from individual efforts or a lucky bounce. We haven’t manufactured try’s.
The best try we scored that was called back was when Avo passed to Burto who passed back inside to Dufty. That was a great planned move. And plays like that we’re building between those three. It’s why I have been so upset that Baz dropped Avo.
I get the point. So far Wakeham and Burton haven't struck up the same combination. Now Baz has made the change I want to see Wakeham in the 7 for a few weeks. Against Manly the Offload from our forwards were not so effective, wet conditions a factor. TPJ and King. We have played wet-dry-wet, low scores for and against are partially due to the 2 wet games. Dry-dry-dry gives a much better basis for honing the attack. Against Manly with Hethro went off injured that weakened our pack and rotation, but my impression is that the forwards did not lay much of a platform. This season we have the advantage of strike players who can create tries through individual efforts and we have the pace to score long range tries. We really just need to keep practicing the basics, executing better passing and making smarter decisions. We need to consider the passing from dummy half. Overall a big improvement on last season, to be expected but welcome. We do make chances, we need to get better at taking them and improve the edge defence a bit. I really want us to have moves for both left side attack and right side attack. When we get the ball around halfway or inside opposition half, with a full set of 6, I want to see us try 3 backline moves in the set. We can have a settler or a straight run or a dummy half run in between but it should be something like attack on plays 1, 3 and 5 with a reset play in between. At the moment, it seems there is no plan and when there is no plan, we get Desball and we see 3 or 4 one out settler runs which are easy pickings for the defence and worse of all, gives the opposition plenty of time to number up. We need to incite chaos in the defence. We need to get them when they are struggling to number up or even assess what is coming at them. This is the blueprint of the Storm and more recently the Panthers and is also the reason the Raiders did well afew years back. Against Manly we ran out of juice to attack in the 2nd half. But our side would be improved by 2nd rowers who can hit a hole, RFM and Doorey fit the bill. All our halves Burton, Wakeham, Averillo and BBO can throw a good short pass. Apart from that we need a few plays early in the set with props running hard over the add line or a run from dummy half. A good hooker creates the roll on for his side establishing early momentum. The halves get a rest early in the set while momentum is built. Too many passes being thrown early in a set, after an offload throw the passes. When players get tired they don't have the energy to run hard. The conditions didn't help passes were slower as a result. Keep the faith we mostly have the players, but we might be missing a few things. 1. A good starting hooker - Reed. 2. A good impact 2nd rower - Kicks. 3. A starting prop with good authority- my priority. 4. An experienced elder statesman half- also a priorty -doesn't need to be big dollars or to have succeeded in the NRL previously- mandatory 150+ games of NRL/Super league with least 50 NRL games. When we don't have 1..4 particularly 1. It is going to be a slow grind looking for steady improvement. They are trying we might get there but we are still missing a few key building blocks. Yes. Exactly. Going forward we need an experienced half and intimidating prop. Who’s available? TPJ needs to move to prop now... He'll be there next year anyway... Decent halves are skinny on the ground and I'd hate to us sign the likes of a Croft, Pearce, or the Tigers 7... Apparently Flanno has played well in Reggie's... We know he can lead a pack around the park better than Wakes (a 6) or Avo (4 maybe a 1)... Won't have to do nearly all the kicking... Likely a better goalkicker than Burto... Just needs to take a run and a whack more frequently from last stint... Maybe it's time to bite the bullet... Realistically he couldn't be much worse... I would like to see Flanno fully rebuild his confidence in reserve grade. I would think about someone like Sezer. Reggies are going well agree about TPJ at prop. But I would like someone like an O'Meley, Asotasi, or Kelly someone who runs harder everytime and hits even harder. Sezer???... Bloody hell... Next thing some TK 'participants' will be on here saying "sign Lachlan Coote" or "i told ya we shoulda signed Arey" Is Sezer going any good where he is now???... Is he really any better than Flanno???... And when U say fully rebuild confidence for Flanno, what constitutes 'fully'???... As poor as he was last year, he was playing behind a well beaten pack every week, and had not much in the way of support at 6... Of our choices he's the only true 7 in the squad... Baz obviously has his reasons but I was surprised he didn't get first crack with Burto... Averillo also played behind that pack and did it well. Was our only shining light. Your argument is quashed. Fans need to get over the idea that everytime a talented young player like Averillo has a bad game we need to sack him and buy Lachlan Coote. Dropping Averillo for Wakeham was the right call, and Averillo isn't a 7. But Averillo is class, clubs that regularly give up on class young players, rightfully find themselves at the bottom of the table.
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I am going to leave the coaching and team selections to Barrett... he's the expert. He doesn't sit on a keyboard in a forum typing how I'm doing my job wrong and how I should fix it. So just like I am the subject matter expert in my job, Baz is the subject matter expert in his and we should just leave him to do it.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xMarki, are you just realusing the The Kennel is full of weirdos. Nothing EVER pleases that bunch and most of the time a lot of them aren't even aware of the sh!t that they waffle. Marki has a shared affinity with them. We could have been 3 from 3 or none from 3..small things change the penthouse to the outhouse. We need a modicum of luck which we haven't had. It’s so true. If the Cows fullback was onside we are zero from three. If Burto could kick goals and the Broncos were penalised for a Shepard we are three from three.
But the problem is. And I surprisingly agree with Marki on this. Is that we can’t score many try’s. And the ones we gave scored have come from individual efforts or a lucky bounce. We haven’t manufactured try’s.
The best try we scored that was called back was when Avo passed to Burto who passed back inside to Dufty. That was a great planned move. And plays like that we’re building between those three. It’s why I have been so upset that Baz dropped Avo.
I get the point. So far Wakeham and Burton haven't struck up the same combination. Now Baz has made the change I want to see Wakeham in the 7 for a few weeks. Against Manly the Offload from our forwards were not so effective, wet conditions a factor. TPJ and King. We have played wet-dry-wet, low scores for and against are partially due to the 2 wet games. Dry-dry-dry gives a much better basis for honing the attack. Against Manly with Hethro went off injured that weakened our pack and rotation, but my impression is that the forwards did not lay much of a platform. This season we have the advantage of strike players who can create tries through individual efforts and we have the pace to score long range tries. We really just need to keep practicing the basics, executing better passing and making smarter decisions. We need to consider the passing from dummy half. Overall a big improvement on last season, to be expected but welcome. We do make chances, we need to get better at taking them and improve the edge defence a bit. I really want us to have moves for both left side attack and right side attack. When we get the ball around halfway or inside opposition half, with a full set of 6, I want to see us try 3 backline moves in the set. We can have a settler or a straight run or a dummy half run in between but it should be something like attack on plays 1, 3 and 5 with a reset play in between. At the moment, it seems there is no plan and when there is no plan, we get Desball and we see 3 or 4 one out settler runs which are easy pickings for the defence and worse of all, gives the opposition plenty of time to number up. We need to incite chaos in the defence. We need to get them when they are struggling to number up or even assess what is coming at them. This is the blueprint of the Storm and more recently the Panthers and is also the reason the Raiders did well afew years back. We need Jackson and our ball players to take the ball all the way to the defensive line before passing. As it is now they pass well before they engage the defenders, so when they pass the defence can simply shuffle across. When Burton and Dufty get the ball we haven't created the overlap for them often enough. I think that is why Burton keeps running it himself. He needs to improve though and either play it short or put a little grubber in behind the line. Everyone is aware his go to play is to take the line on himself. Good observation. It's also why I don't want Flanagan in the side. He's the biggest culprit of passing way too early, especially with that crappy inside pass which fools no one and in fact removes the need for the defence to even slide. Next it will be "players taking the ball to deep in the line and don't give our outside backs enough early ball and space to use their pace one on one".... *Too #sorrysteve... Why only apologise to Steve? Im equally disgusted! Your disgust is "undefendable"... Where is your auto-correct when I need it!
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xMarki, are you just realusing the The Kennel is full of weirdos. Nothing EVER pleases that bunch and most of the time a lot of them aren't even aware of the sh!t that they waffle. Marki has a shared affinity with them. We could have been 3 from 3 or none from 3..small things change the penthouse to the outhouse. We need a modicum of luck which we haven't had. It’s so true. If the Cows fullback was onside we are zero from three. If Burto could kick goals and the Broncos were penalised for a Shepard we are three from three.
But the problem is. And I surprisingly agree with Marki on this. Is that we can’t score many try’s. And the ones we gave scored have come from individual efforts or a lucky bounce. We haven’t manufactured try’s.
The best try we scored that was called back was when Avo passed to Burto who passed back inside to Dufty. That was a great planned move. And plays like that we’re building between those three. It’s why I have been so upset that Baz dropped Avo.
I get the point. So far Wakeham and Burton haven't struck up the same combination. Now Baz has made the change I want to see Wakeham in the 7 for a few weeks. Against Manly the Offload from our forwards were not so effective, wet conditions a factor. TPJ and King. We have played wet-dry-wet, low scores for and against are partially due to the 2 wet games. Dry-dry-dry gives a much better basis for honing the attack. Against Manly with Hethro went off injured that weakened our pack and rotation, but my impression is that the forwards did not lay much of a platform. This season we have the advantage of strike players who can create tries through individual efforts and we have the pace to score long range tries. We really just need to keep practicing the basics, executing better passing and making smarter decisions. We need to consider the passing from dummy half. Overall a big improvement on last season, to be expected but welcome. We do make chances, we need to get better at taking them and improve the edge defence a bit. I really want us to have moves for both left side attack and right side attack. When we get the ball around halfway or inside opposition half, with a full set of 6, I want to see us try 3 backline moves in the set. We can have a settler or a straight run or a dummy half run in between but it should be something like attack on plays 1, 3 and 5 with a reset play in between. At the moment, it seems there is no plan and when there is no plan, we get Desball and we see 3 or 4 one out settler runs which are easy pickings for the defence and worse of all, gives the opposition plenty of time to number up. We need to incite chaos in the defence. We need to get them when they are struggling to number up or even assess what is coming at them. This is the blueprint of the Storm and more recently the Panthers and is also the reason the Raiders did well afew years back. Against Manly we ran out of juice to attack in the 2nd half. But our side would be improved by 2nd rowers who can hit a hole, RFM and Doorey fit the bill. All our halves Burton, Wakeham, Averillo and BBO can throw a good short pass. Apart from that we need a few plays early in the set with props running hard over the add line or a run from dummy half. A good hooker creates the roll on for his side establishing early momentum. The halves get a rest early in the set while momentum is built. Too many passes being thrown early in a set, after an offload throw the passes. When players get tired they don't have the energy to run hard. The conditions didn't help passes were slower as a result. Keep the faith we mostly have the players, but we might be missing a few things. 1. A good starting hooker - Reed. 2. A good impact 2nd rower - Kicks. 3. A starting prop with good authority- my priority. 4. An experienced elder statesman half- also a priorty -doesn't need to be big dollars or to have succeeded in the NRL previously- mandatory 150+ games of NRL/Super league with least 50 NRL games. When we don't have 1..4 particularly 1. It is going to be a slow grind looking for steady improvement. They are trying we might get there but we are still missing a few key building blocks. Yes. Exactly. Going forward we need an experienced half and intimidating prop. Who’s available? TPJ needs to move to prop now... He'll be there next year anyway... Decent halves are skinny on the ground and I'd hate to us sign the likes of a Croft, Pearce, or the Tigers 7... Apparently Flanno has played well in Reggie's... We know he can lead a pack around the park better than Wakes (a 6) or Avo (4 maybe a 1)... Won't have to do nearly all the kicking... Likely a better goalkicker than Burto... Just needs to take a run and a whack more frequently from last stint... Maybe it's time to bite the bullet... Realistically he couldn't be much worse... I would like to see Flanno fully rebuild his confidence in reserve grade. I would think about someone like Sezer. Reggies are going well agree about TPJ at prop. But I would like someone like an O'Meley, Asotasi, or Kelly someone who runs harder everytime and hits even harder. Sezer???... Bloody hell... Next thing some TK 'participants' will be on here saying "sign Lachlan Coote" or "i told ya we shoulda signed Arey" Is Sezer going any good where he is now???... Is he really any better than Flanno???... And when U say fully rebuild confidence for Flanno, what constitutes 'fully'???... As poor as he was last year, he was playing behind a well beaten pack every week, and had not much in the way of support at 6... Of our choices he's the only true 7 in the squad... Baz obviously has his reasons but I was surprised he didn't get first crack with Burto... Sezer is experienced which is what we need. Flanno is going better, but he was totally shot and clueless last season. 1. He needs to fully earn the right to a shot with consistent quality performances. 2. It is easier to fix and improve his game in reserve grade. 3. It is better to build the team into a stronger unit before he comes back. If Flanno is the future rushing him, risks him falling apart under pressure again. But the value of an organising half is way overstated, thst often just means a half with a limited toolkit plays smart, makes good decisions and executes. Goal kicking sure he is the best in the side. General play long kicks and bombs Burton. General play short kicks all about the same. Passing - Flanno looked good in reserve grade, but Averillo, Wakeham and BBO naturally play square and have good play making instincts. I'm not 100% sold on Burton's passing he needs to improve. At best Flanno is slightly better than Burton and worse than the others on proven NRL form. Reserve grade form, Flanno possibly the best. There is a gap between first grade and reserve grade and the good plays make the highlights. Running - all of the others are way better than Flanno, he is close to zero threat running the ball from what I have seen. What Sezer would add, smart, experienced, good kicking game, good goal kicker, handy ball runner. In particular if Burton was out, I would want Sezer in the side. In terms of their ceiling as a half Wakeham has a high ceiling and could even be a future SOO half, IMO Flanno will only ever be a solid NRL half, totally lacking the running game and instincts to be a class player. Averillo has a high ceiling, but probably isn't a 7. I am not writing Flanno off, if he comes good and performs consistently we don't need Sezer, but I'll need to see more than 1-2 good games in a dominant reserve grade side. One the key differences I have noticed between our reserve grade team and first grade team 8s the way we run the ball up. Our reserves do it far better than first grade. They tend to be positioned deeper and time their runs so they are running onto the ball. First grade is mostly flat footed whether they play flat or deep. It really passes me off. Even when players move from reserve to firsts or vice versa, they just adapt to the style. I dont understand why. I put it down to the hooker and the coaching and the fact that NRL level is quicker. So when you watch guys like Flanno in reserves and they look like they are playing well, don't be fooled. It doesn't necessarily mean he's ok for firsts and it has been proven multiple times. With so many new faces in our first grade team, I was hoping we can finally move away from Desball style of play, as guys like Vaughan, TPJ, Burton, King etc would bring their games from previous clubs. It's very unfortunate that we had so many wet games as it almost forces you to play flatter and with less run onto the ball. Im fearful Desball players like JMK, Jackson etc will infect the new guys style and they will also end up playing like have been in the past. We so needed Mahoney this year its not funny It's no wonder the team looks so much better in attack when BBO or even Cook have played dummy half. JMK has been good individually but really holds back the team
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xMarki, are you just realusing the The Kennel is full of weirdos. Nothing EVER pleases that bunch and most of the time a lot of them aren't even aware of the sh!t that they waffle. Marki has a shared affinity with them. We could have been 3 from 3 or none from 3..small things change the penthouse to the outhouse. We need a modicum of luck which we haven't had. It’s so true. If the Cows fullback was onside we are zero from three. If Burto could kick goals and the Broncos were penalised for a Shepard we are three from three.
But the problem is. And I surprisingly agree with Marki on this. Is that we can’t score many try’s. And the ones we gave scored have come from individual efforts or a lucky bounce. We haven’t manufactured try’s.
The best try we scored that was called back was when Avo passed to Burto who passed back inside to Dufty. That was a great planned move. And plays like that we’re building between those three. It’s why I have been so upset that Baz dropped Avo.
I get the point. So far Wakeham and Burton haven't struck up the same combination. Now Baz has made the change I want to see Wakeham in the 7 for a few weeks. Against Manly the Offload from our forwards were not so effective, wet conditions a factor. TPJ and King. We have played wet-dry-wet, low scores for and against are partially due to the 2 wet games. Dry-dry-dry gives a much better basis for honing the attack. Against Manly with Hethro went off injured that weakened our pack and rotation, but my impression is that the forwards did not lay much of a platform. This season we have the advantage of strike players who can create tries through individual efforts and we have the pace to score long range tries. We really just need to keep practicing the basics, executing better passing and making smarter decisions. We need to consider the passing from dummy half. Overall a big improvement on last season, to be expected but welcome. We do make chances, we need to get better at taking them and improve the edge defence a bit. I really want us to have moves for both left side attack and right side attack. When we get the ball around halfway or inside opposition half, with a full set of 6, I want to see us try 3 backline moves in the set. We can have a settler or a straight run or a dummy half run in between but it should be something like attack on plays 1, 3 and 5 with a reset play in between. At the moment, it seems there is no plan and when there is no plan, we get Desball and we see 3 or 4 one out settler runs which are easy pickings for the defence and worse of all, gives the opposition plenty of time to number up. We need to incite chaos in the defence. We need to get them when they are struggling to number up or even assess what is coming at them. This is the blueprint of the Storm and more recently the Panthers and is also the reason the Raiders did well afew years back. Against Manly we ran out of juice to attack in the 2nd half. But our side would be improved by 2nd rowers who can hit a hole, RFM and Doorey fit the bill. All our halves Burton, Wakeham, Averillo and BBO can throw a good short pass. Apart from that we need a few plays early in the set with props running hard over the add line or a run from dummy half. A good hooker creates the roll on for his side establishing early momentum. The halves get a rest early in the set while momentum is built. Too many passes being thrown early in a set, after an offload throw the passes. When players get tired they don't have the energy to run hard. The conditions didn't help passes were slower as a result. Keep the faith we mostly have the players, but we might be missing a few things. 1. A good starting hooker - Reed. 2. A good impact 2nd rower - Kicks. 3. A starting prop with good authority- my priority. 4. An experienced elder statesman half- also a priorty -doesn't need to be big dollars or to have succeeded in the NRL previously- mandatory 150+ games of NRL/Super league with least 50 NRL games. When we don't have 1..4 particularly 1. It is going to be a slow grind looking for steady improvement. They are trying we might get there but we are still missing a few key building blocks. Yes. Exactly. Going forward we need an experienced half and intimidating prop. Who’s available? TPJ needs to move to prop now... He'll be there next year anyway... Decent halves are skinny on the ground and I'd hate to us sign the likes of a Croft, Pearce, or the Tigers 7... Apparently Flanno has played well in Reggie's... We know he can lead a pack around the park better than Wakes (a 6) or Avo (4 maybe a 1)... Won't have to do nearly all the kicking... Likely a better goalkicker than Burto... Just needs to take a run and a whack more frequently from last stint... Maybe it's time to bite the bullet... Realistically he couldn't be much worse... Pangai has been playing prop. I know he hasn’t had the right number in the back but he switches with Waddell who plays on an edge.
This week Pangai might play on an edge though with Hethrington out. However I hope he stays in the middle.
I agree. No decent halfbacks available. We would be better off just throwing Flange in and see how he works with Burto. Should have already tried this in the trials.
Honestly though. I hope Baz sticks with Wakeham for the rest of the year. It takes time to build combinations. It would have been better to stick with Avo. But Baz likes to play musical chairs.
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+xI am going to leave the coaching and team selections to Barrett... he's the expert. He doesn't sit on a keyboard in a forum typing how I'm doing my job wrong and how I should fix it. So just like I am the subject matter expert in my job, Baz is the subject matter expert in his and we should just leave him to do it. If Barrett gets sacked, is he equal to you, above you or below you in the coaching subject matter? I think as a fan or observer of the game, you are entitled to your opinion or criticism. If we just roll over and not put our thoughts forward, this forum starts talking about covid19, soccer and other stuff. Speaking of..... did anyone notice Hawthorn winning their first 2 games and sitting on top of the afl ladder? Just saying....
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+xI am going to leave the coaching and team selections to Barrett... he's the expert. He doesn't sit on a keyboard in a forum typing how I'm doing my job wrong and how I should fix it. So just like I am the subject matter expert in my job, Baz is the subject matter expert in his and we should just leave him to do it. Beware the Peter Principle
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+xI am going to leave the coaching and team selections to Barrett... he's the expert. He doesn't sit on a keyboard in a forum typing how I'm doing my job wrong and how I should fix it. So just like I am the subject matter expert in my job, Baz is the subject matter expert in his and we should just leave him to do it. expert
- a person who is very knowledgeable about or skilful in a particular area.
Is Baz that knowledgeable or skilful at coaching. His record at Manly and now with us doesn’t do him any favours. But we won’t know until the end of next year. Hopefully we have a better coach lined up to replace him by then if he doesn’t work out.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xMarki, are you just realusing the The Kennel is full of weirdos. Nothing EVER pleases that bunch and most of the time a lot of them aren't even aware of the sh!t that they waffle. Marki has a shared affinity with them. We could have been 3 from 3 or none from 3..small things change the penthouse to the outhouse. We need a modicum of luck which we haven't had. It’s so true. If the Cows fullback was onside we are zero from three. If Burto could kick goals and the Broncos were penalised for a Shepard we are three from three.
But the problem is. And I surprisingly agree with Marki on this. Is that we can’t score many try’s. And the ones we gave scored have come from individual efforts or a lucky bounce. We haven’t manufactured try’s.
The best try we scored that was called back was when Avo passed to Burto who passed back inside to Dufty. That was a great planned move. And plays like that we’re building between those three. It’s why I have been so upset that Baz dropped Avo.
I get the point. So far Wakeham and Burton haven't struck up the same combination. Now Baz has made the change I want to see Wakeham in the 7 for a few weeks. Against Manly the Offload from our forwards were not so effective, wet conditions a factor. TPJ and King. We have played wet-dry-wet, low scores for and against are partially due to the 2 wet games. Dry-dry-dry gives a much better basis for honing the attack. Against Manly with Hethro went off injured that weakened our pack and rotation, but my impression is that the forwards did not lay much of a platform. This season we have the advantage of strike players who can create tries through individual efforts and we have the pace to score long range tries. We really just need to keep practicing the basics, executing better passing and making smarter decisions. We need to consider the passing from dummy half. Overall a big improvement on last season, to be expected but welcome. We do make chances, we need to get better at taking them and improve the edge defence a bit. I really want us to have moves for both left side attack and right side attack. When we get the ball around halfway or inside opposition half, with a full set of 6, I want to see us try 3 backline moves in the set. We can have a settler or a straight run or a dummy half run in between but it should be something like attack on plays 1, 3 and 5 with a reset play in between. At the moment, it seems there is no plan and when there is no plan, we get Desball and we see 3 or 4 one out settler runs which are easy pickings for the defence and worse of all, gives the opposition plenty of time to number up. We need to incite chaos in the defence. We need to get them when they are struggling to number up or even assess what is coming at them. This is the blueprint of the Storm and more recently the Panthers and is also the reason the Raiders did well afew years back. Against Manly we ran out of juice to attack in the 2nd half. But our side would be improved by 2nd rowers who can hit a hole, RFM and Doorey fit the bill. All our halves Burton, Wakeham, Averillo and BBO can throw a good short pass. Apart from that we need a few plays early in the set with props running hard over the add line or a run from dummy half. A good hooker creates the roll on for his side establishing early momentum. The halves get a rest early in the set while momentum is built. Too many passes being thrown early in a set, after an offload throw the passes. When players get tired they don't have the energy to run hard. The conditions didn't help passes were slower as a result. Keep the faith we mostly have the players, but we might be missing a few things. 1. A good starting hooker - Reed. 2. A good impact 2nd rower - Kicks. 3. A starting prop with good authority- my priority. 4. An experienced elder statesman half- also a priorty -doesn't need to be big dollars or to have succeeded in the NRL previously- mandatory 150+ games of NRL/Super league with least 50 NRL games. When we don't have 1..4 particularly 1. It is going to be a slow grind looking for steady improvement. They are trying we might get there but we are still missing a few key building blocks. Yes. Exactly. Going forward we need an experienced half and intimidating prop. Who’s available? TPJ needs to move to prop now... He'll be there next year anyway... Decent halves are skinny on the ground and I'd hate to us sign the likes of a Croft, Pearce, or the Tigers 7... Apparently Flanno has played well in Reggie's... We know he can lead a pack around the park better than Wakes (a 6) or Avo (4 maybe a 1)... Won't have to do nearly all the kicking... Likely a better goalkicker than Burto... Just needs to take a run and a whack more frequently from last stint... Maybe it's time to bite the bullet... Realistically he couldn't be much worse... I would like to see Flanno fully rebuild his confidence in reserve grade. I would think about someone like Sezer. Reggies are going well agree about TPJ at prop. But I would like someone like an O'Meley, Asotasi, or Kelly someone who runs harder everytime and hits even harder. Sezer???... Bloody hell... Next thing some TK 'participants' will be on here saying "sign Lachlan Coote" or "i told ya we shoulda signed Arey" Is Sezer going any good where he is now???... Is he really any better than Flanno???... And when U say fully rebuild confidence for Flanno, what constitutes 'fully'???... As poor as he was last year, he was playing behind a well beaten pack every week, and had not much in the way of support at 6... Of our choices he's the only true 7 in the squad... Baz obviously has his reasons but I was surprised he didn't get first crack with Burto... Sezer is experienced which is what we need. Flanno is going better, but he was totally shot and clueless last season. 1. He needs to fully earn the right to a shot with consistent quality performances. 2. It is easier to fix and improve his game in reserve grade. 3. It is better to build the team into a stronger unit before he comes back. If Flanno is the future rushing him, risks him falling apart under pressure again. But the value of an organising half is way overstated, thst often just means a half with a limited toolkit plays smart, makes good decisions and executes. Goal kicking sure he is the best in the side. General play long kicks and bombs Burton. General play short kicks all about the same. Passing - Flanno looked good in reserve grade, but Averillo, Wakeham and BBO naturally play square and have good play making instincts. I'm not 100% sold on Burton's passing he needs to improve. At best Flanno is slightly better than Burton and worse than the others on proven NRL form. Reserve grade form, Flanno possibly the best. There is a gap between first grade and reserve grade and the good plays make the highlights. Running - all of the others are way better than Flanno, he is close to zero threat running the ball from what I have seen. What Sezer would add, smart, experienced, good kicking game, good goal kicker, handy ball runner. In particular if Burton was out, I would want Sezer in the side. In terms of their ceiling as a half Wakeham has a high ceiling and could even be a future SOO half, IMO Flanno will only ever be a solid NRL half, totally lacking the running game and instincts to be a class player. Averillo has a high ceiling, but probably isn't a 7. I am not writing Flanno off, if he comes good and performs consistently we don't need Sezer, but I'll need to see more than 1-2 good games in a dominant reserve grade side. One the key differences I have noticed between our reserve grade team and first grade team 8s the way we run the ball up. Our reserves do it far better than first grade. They tend to be positioned deeper and time their runs so they are running onto the ball. First grade is mostly flat footed whether they play flat or deep. It really passes me off. Even when players move from reserve to firsts or vice versa, they just adapt to the style. I dont understand why. I put it down to the hooker and the coaching and the fact that NRL level is quicker. So when you watch guys like Flanno in reserves and they look like they are playing well, don't be fooled. It doesn't necessarily mean he's ok for firsts and it has been proven multiple times. With so many new faces in our first grade team, I was hoping we can finally move away from Desball style of play, as guys like Vaughan, TPJ, Burton, King etc would bring their games from previous clubs. It's very unfortunate that we had so many wet games as it almost forces you to play flatter and with less run onto the ball. Im fearful Desball players like JMK, Jackson etc will infect the new guys style and they will also end up playing like have been in the past. We so needed Mahoney this year its not funny It's no wonder the team looks so much better in attack when BBO or even Cook have played dummy half. JMK has been good individually but really holds back the team I think the reason our reserve grade team looks different is because we win the forward battle very easily. Meaning there is much more space and time given to our hooker, halves and outside backs.
Always remember. When your forwards are breaking the line and making good meters the opposition is running backwards and not getting off their line to meet you at the advantage line.
It’s why we could use a big meter eating prop. What is a worry though is that we have been winning the forward battle but not converting that to points. The backline probably needed more time to gel.
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+x+xI am going to leave the coaching and team selections to Barrett... he's the expert. He doesn't sit on a keyboard in a forum typing how I'm doing my job wrong and how I should fix it. So just like I am the subject matter expert in my job, Baz is the subject matter expert in his and we should just leave him to do it. If Barrett gets sacked, is he equal to you, above you or below you in the coaching subject matter? I think as a fan or observer of the game, you are entitled to your opinion or criticism. If we just roll over and not put our thoughts forward, this forum starts talking about covid19, soccer and other stuff. Speaking of..... did anyone notice Hawthorn winning their first 2 games and sitting on top of the afl ladder? Just saying.... Perfect example of something that everyone 100% doesn't even give half an inkling of a schit about. This week is a good chance to see where we stand. I am disappointed that we are only 1 from 3 but not too disheartened given the effort and the rub of the green. I am hoping Naden and the Fox can cook big time. The prospects are there for them to be the premier 3/4 pairing in the entire comp.
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I am not having a go at anyone, we are all armchair critics and see different things. We all have grandiose solutions to problems and question why the coaching staff cannot see what we see. The truth is, they probably do see those things but there are situations or events (that we are unaware of) that are blocking them from a certain course of action. I am no coach, wouldn't have a clue about coaching and that's why I don't flash my armchair coaching certificate about. I did dome schoolboy reffing in my early days (early 70's) under the old four tackle rule so I can say I am disappointef that the officiating is so substandard. But the bottom line is, the team and the coach will sort themselves out, thr only problem is that it takes time.... a comodity which we don't have an abundance of. Oh and Marki...what's a 'Hawthorne'? Some type of tree.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xMarki, are you just realusing the The Kennel is full of weirdos. Nothing EVER pleases that bunch and most of the time a lot of them aren't even aware of the sh!t that they waffle. Marki has a shared affinity with them. We could have been 3 from 3 or none from 3..small things change the penthouse to the outhouse. We need a modicum of luck which we haven't had. It’s so true. If the Cows fullback was onside we are zero from three. If Burto could kick goals and the Broncos were penalised for a Shepard we are three from three.
But the problem is. And I surprisingly agree with Marki on this. Is that we can’t score many try’s. And the ones we gave scored have come from individual efforts or a lucky bounce. We haven’t manufactured try’s.
The best try we scored that was called back was when Avo passed to Burto who passed back inside to Dufty. That was a great planned move. And plays like that we’re building between those three. It’s why I have been so upset that Baz dropped Avo.
I get the point. So far Wakeham and Burton haven't struck up the same combination. Now Baz has made the change I want to see Wakeham in the 7 for a few weeks. Against Manly the Offload from our forwards were not so effective, wet conditions a factor. TPJ and King. We have played wet-dry-wet, low scores for and against are partially due to the 2 wet games. Dry-dry-dry gives a much better basis for honing the attack. Against Manly with Hethro went off injured that weakened our pack and rotation, but my impression is that the forwards did not lay much of a platform. This season we have the advantage of strike players who can create tries through individual efforts and we have the pace to score long range tries. We really just need to keep practicing the basics, executing better passing and making smarter decisions. We need to consider the passing from dummy half. Overall a big improvement on last season, to be expected but welcome. We do make chances, we need to get better at taking them and improve the edge defence a bit. I really want us to have moves for both left side attack and right side attack. When we get the ball around halfway or inside opposition half, with a full set of 6, I want to see us try 3 backline moves in the set. We can have a settler or a straight run or a dummy half run in between but it should be something like attack on plays 1, 3 and 5 with a reset play in between. At the moment, it seems there is no plan and when there is no plan, we get Desball and we see 3 or 4 one out settler runs which are easy pickings for the defence and worse of all, gives the opposition plenty of time to number up. We need to incite chaos in the defence. We need to get them when they are struggling to number up or even assess what is coming at them. This is the blueprint of the Storm and more recently the Panthers and is also the reason the Raiders did well afew years back. Against Manly we ran out of juice to attack in the 2nd half. But our side would be improved by 2nd rowers who can hit a hole, RFM and Doorey fit the bill. All our halves Burton, Wakeham, Averillo and BBO can throw a good short pass. Apart from that we need a few plays early in the set with props running hard over the add line or a run from dummy half. A good hooker creates the roll on for his side establishing early momentum. The halves get a rest early in the set while momentum is built. Too many passes being thrown early in a set, after an offload throw the passes. When players get tired they don't have the energy to run hard. The conditions didn't help passes were slower as a result. Keep the faith we mostly have the players, but we might be missing a few things. 1. A good starting hooker - Reed. 2. A good impact 2nd rower - Kicks. 3. A starting prop with good authority- my priority. 4. An experienced elder statesman half- also a priorty -doesn't need to be big dollars or to have succeeded in the NRL previously- mandatory 150+ games of NRL/Super league with least 50 NRL games. When we don't have 1..4 particularly 1. It is going to be a slow grind looking for steady improvement. They are trying we might get there but we are still missing a few key building blocks. Yes. Exactly. Going forward we need an experienced half and intimidating prop. Who’s available? TPJ needs to move to prop now... He'll be there next year anyway... Decent halves are skinny on the ground and I'd hate to us sign the likes of a Croft, Pearce, or the Tigers 7... Apparently Flanno has played well in Reggie's... We know he can lead a pack around the park better than Wakes (a 6) or Avo (4 maybe a 1)... Won't have to do nearly all the kicking... Likely a better goalkicker than Burto... Just needs to take a run and a whack more frequently from last stint... Maybe it's time to bite the bullet... Realistically he couldn't be much worse... I would like to see Flanno fully rebuild his confidence in reserve grade. I would think about someone like Sezer. Reggies are going well agree about TPJ at prop. But I would like someone like an O'Meley, Asotasi, or Kelly someone who runs harder everytime and hits even harder. Sezer???... Bloody hell... Next thing some TK 'participants' will be on here saying "sign Lachlan Coote" or "i told ya we shoulda signed Arey" Is Sezer going any good where he is now???... Is he really any better than Flanno???... And when U say fully rebuild confidence for Flanno, what constitutes 'fully'???... As poor as he was last year, he was playing behind a well beaten pack every week, and had not much in the way of support at 6... Of our choices he's the only true 7 in the squad... Baz obviously has his reasons but I was surprised he didn't get first crack with Burto... Sezer is experienced which is what we need. Flanno is going better, but he was totally shot and clueless last season. 1. He needs to fully earn the right to a shot with consistent quality performances. 2. It is easier to fix and improve his game in reserve grade. 3. It is better to build the team into a stronger unit before he comes back. If Flanno is the future rushing him, risks him falling apart under pressure again. But the value of an organising half is way overstated, thst often just means a half with a limited toolkit plays smart, makes good decisions and executes. Goal kicking sure he is the best in the side. General play long kicks and bombs Burton. General play short kicks all about the same. Passing - Flanno looked good in reserve grade, but Averillo, Wakeham and BBO naturally play square and have good play making instincts. I'm not 100% sold on Burton's passing he needs to improve. At best Flanno is slightly better than Burton and worse than the others on proven NRL form. Reserve grade form, Flanno possibly the best. There is a gap between first grade and reserve grade and the good plays make the highlights. Running - all of the others are way better than Flanno, he is close to zero threat running the ball from what I have seen. What Sezer would add, smart, experienced, good kicking game, good goal kicker, handy ball runner. In particular if Burton was out, I would want Sezer in the side. In terms of their ceiling as a half Wakeham has a high ceiling and could even be a future SOO half, IMO Flanno will only ever be a solid NRL half, totally lacking the running game and instincts to be a class player. Averillo has a high ceiling, but probably isn't a 7. I am not writing Flanno off, if he comes good and performs consistently we don't need Sezer, but I'll need to see more than 1-2 good games in a dominant reserve grade side. One the key differences I have noticed between our reserve grade team and first grade team 8s the way we run the ball up. Our reserves do it far better than first grade. They tend to be positioned deeper and time their runs so they are running onto the ball. First grade is mostly flat footed whether they play flat or deep. It really passes me off. Even when players move from reserve to firsts or vice versa, they just adapt to the style. I dont understand why. I put it down to the hooker and the coaching and the fact that NRL level is quicker. So when you watch guys like Flanno in reserves and they look like they are playing well, don't be fooled. It doesn't necessarily mean he's ok for firsts and it has been proven multiple times. With so many new faces in our first grade team, I was hoping we can finally move away from Desball style of play, as guys like Vaughan, TPJ, Burton, King etc would bring their games from previous clubs. It's very unfortunate that we had so many wet games as it almost forces you to play flatter and with less run onto the ball. Im fearful Desball players like JMK, Jackson etc will infect the new guys style and they will also end up playing like have been in the past. We so needed Mahoney this year its not funny It's no wonder the team looks so much better in attack when BBO or even Cook have played dummy half. JMK has been good individually but really holds back the team I think the reason our reserve grade team looks different is because we win the forward battle very easily. Meaning there is much more space and time given to our hooker, halves and outside backs.
Always remember. When your forwards are breaking the line and making good meters the opposition is running backwards and not getting off their line to meet you at the advantage line.
It’s why we could use a big meter eating prop. What is a worry though is that we have been winning the forward battle but not converting that to points. The backline probably needed more time to gel. This is spot on, another way of saying it is our reserve grade side is generally better than the opposition. I think that the NRL side has matched up well against the sides we have played, but I think that the Storm is likely to be a step up. Some of the reserve grade players might improve the NRL side and others won't. Consistent good performances in reserve grade should earn a shot at NRL when the time is right. I did notice against Manly that our forwards didn't make the yards and we seemed to throw the ball wide too often. But I'm with ODF here, for anything we can spot, Baz, Gus and the other coaches can probably spot 5 things or know why we are wrong or that the players were coached to do something different. We are all experts on a fan chat site and no fan is officially more expert than others. But it is fun to think that we are experts 😁
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+xI am not having a go at anyone, we are all armchair critics and see different things. We all have grandiose solutions to problems and question why the coaching staff cannot see what we see. The truth is, they probably do see those things but there are situations or events (that we are unaware of) that are blocking them from a certain course of action. I am no coach, wouldn't have a clue about coaching and that's why I don't flash my armchair coaching certificate about. I did dome schoolboy reffing in my early days (early 70's) under the old four tackle rule so I can say I am disappointef that the officiating is so substandard. But the bottom line is, the team and the coach will sort themselves out, thr only problem is that it takes time.... a comodity which we don't have an abundance of. Oh and Marki...what's a 'Hawthorne'? Some type of tree. The real aim this season is to improve the side, finish a few rungs up the ladder and work out what areas we need to strengthen. A secondary aim is to be competitive and give the fans something to cheer, so far this box is ticked. My takeaway is that Burton has nailed down 6, and Duffty so far has nailed down 1. 7 is between Averillo, Wakeham and Flanno and we might need to sign someone. 9 is between JMK and Cook, with Reed arriving next season. I'm happy with Vaughan and pleasantly surprised with Wardell. Jacko is a legend, but perhaps isn't a guaranteed starting player next season. Thommo good, but might be overpriced. Happy with the wingers and centres last game. The players look like they might improve, but it may take time.
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