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Micko - 6 Aug 2022 4:22 PM
Honestly. What’s wrong with a draw. No golden point rubbish please. 


I agree. A game is 80 minutes long and that's  where it should stay for everyone. 
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I agree also, but do you think for one minute the buffoons in charge will leave the game alone and only adjust when and if necessary instead of evertime someone thinks there is a buck to be made. The sooner we get rid of V'Landys the better.
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Good effort first half but the Cows had more of the ball.

We need at least 50% of posession in the 2nd half to win.
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ODF - 7 Aug 2022 1:22 PM
I agree also, but do you think for one minute the buffoons in charge will leave the game alone and only adjust when and if necessary instead of evertime someone thinks there is a buck to be made. The sooner we get rid of V'Landys the better.

Who's at the game.  How we looking?  Im in Melbourne waiting to board a plane to Canberra and trying to get updates. 
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It's just the usual... we started well but tbe Cows are getting a lions share of "fortuitous" calls. Plus their jersey is too close to ours.. that was a bad blue.
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hounddog - 7 Aug 2022 2:50 PM
Good effort first half but the Cows had more of the ball.

We need at least 50% of posession in the 2nd half to win.

We are turning the ball over way too much. Giving them too much ball. Everything else we are doing well and look to be the better team. But against the wind it’s going to be very tough
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Micko - 7 Aug 2022 3:01 PM
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We are turning the ball over way too much. Giving them too much ball. Everything else we are doing well and look to be the better team. But against the wind it’s going to be very tough

Cowgirls getting luck of calls. They know how to milk the ref .   Dogs just need to hang in there .
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We have gotten rid of the dead wood, now to get rid of the dead heads. 
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ODF - 7 Aug 2022 3:01 PM
It's just the usual... we started well but tbe Cows are getting a lions share of "fortuitous" calls. Plus their jersey is too close to ours.. that was a bad blue.

At the moment we can at least beat the weaker teams . Need a lot of work now to compete with the good ones.  Hopefully the rest of year will be a good run up to 2023. 
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The effort was good all  of   the defence tired us out.

To take the next step, better execution and more punch in the forwards.

The Cows have a good pack and a good rotation.

I am not a fan of keeping players fresh for the backend, but our rotation couldn't match theirs.

With Kicks and Marhoney we would go a lot closer to winning this kind of game.
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zoz2015 - 7 Aug 2022 3:47 PM
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At the moment we can at least beat the weaker teams . Need a lot of work now to compete with the good ones.  Hopefully the rest of year will be a good run up to 2023. 

With Reed and Kicks we atleast need Tommo back or another prop.

Tommo might be back next game.
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Little things mean a lot...just before half time Dogs kicked through and Kiraz knocked it back into a Cowboy who took the ball dead...the refs are constantly getting the "not played at" calls wrong and this was a classic example. If the bloke is actively involved in the play that cannot be the call. He was there so he was involved in the play. Leilua is a great player but surely his "try" was a double movement. Again refereeing the basics seems too hard.


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hounddog - 7 Aug 2022 3:58 PM
The effort was good all  of   the defence tired us out.

To take the next step, better execution and more punch in the forwards.

The Cows have a good pack and a good rotation.

I am not a fan of keeping players fresh for the backend, but our rotation couldn't match theirs.

With Kicks and Marhoney we would go a lot closer to winning this kind of game.

Yes. With Kiks and Police academy we should win these games. 

Yes our forward rotation is poor. It does hurt we are losing our best Vaughan. 

We took the second best team to the last quarter and with a few good calls could have beaten them. Happy with the effort

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Steveswr33333 - 7 Aug 2022 4:05 PM
Little things mean a lot...just before half time Dogs kicked through and Kiraz knocked it back into a Cowboy who took the ball dead...the refs are constantly getting the "not played at" calls wrong and this was a classic example. If the bloke is actively involved in the play that cannot be the call. He was there so he was involved in the play. Leilua is a great player but surely his "try" was a double movement. Again refereeing the basics seems too hard.


Double movement it was. But Kiraz knocked it back and the Cowboys player didn’t play at it. We did however cop a few other bad calls. 

We need to be better though. The bad calls shouldn’t cost us games. We should be able to beat any team and the refs

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Micko - 7 Aug 2022 4:17 PM
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Double movement it was. But Kiraz knocked it back and the Cowboys player didn’t play at it. We did however cop a few other bad calls. 

We need to be better though. The bad calls shouldn’t cost us games. We should be able to beat any team and the refs

But the bloke was actively involved in the play,,,Personally I believe the rule should be whoever it goes over the line off...but in either case it should have been Dogs qtr restart 
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Steveswr33333 - 7 Aug 2022 4:22 PM
Micko - 7 Aug 2022 4:17 PM

But the bloke was actively involved in the play,,,Personally I believe the rule should be whoever it goes over the line off...but in either case it should have been Dogs qtr restart 

I don’t disagree with what should be the rule. But that isn’t the rule. They didn’t play at it. Honestly there are many other times the ref went against us I was complaining about. 

But my point is. We need to be so good that it doesn’t matter. We should have scored early to make it 14/16 - 0. But gave them the ball and it was 10-6. Huge turnaround right there. 

Schoup needs to pass earlier to the Fox. Stop hogging the ball and getting in his way. 

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We need to control what we do. We can’t control the refs or the opposition. Be better at taking opportunities. Apply more pressure. Don’t give the opposition any opportunity. Etc. that’s what made us great. Hard, tough, grinding footy. 

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hounddog - 7 Aug 2022 4:00 PM
zoz2015 - 7 Aug 2022 3:47 PM

With Reed and Kicks we atleast need Tommo back or another prop.

Tommo might be back next game.

Definitely would be good to see Thommo playing in a good team . He hasn't had the chance yet and  it probably reflected on some of his performances. 
Kicks and Reed will improve the team . Lucky Barrett isn't there to ruin their careers. 


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Micko - 7 Aug 2022 4:52 PM
We need to control what we do. We can’t control the refs or the opposition. Be better at taking opportunities. Apply more pressure. Don’t give the opposition any opportunity. Etc. that’s what made us great. Hard, tough, grinding footy. 

If we are honest we are lacking 3-4 players in key positions compared to the top sides.

But inspite of that, with better ball control and a bit better execution in attack we could have beat the 2nd best side.

Playing the top sides shows us where we need to improve and what the required level is.

We have improved a lot in the last 6 weeks, but we are only halfway to where we want to be.
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zoz2015 - 7 Aug 2022 5:00 PM
hounddog - 7 Aug 2022 4:00 PM

Definitely would be good to see Thommo playing in a good team . He hasn't had the chance yet and  it probably reflected on some of his performances. 
Kicks and Reed will improve the team . Lucky Barrett isn't there to ruin their careers. 


I like to think that we might have gone better in the last 6 weeks if we had Tommo.

We are certainly short one quality prop, 2 witn Vaughan going.

I hope Reed can give the fowards  better service.

JMK has a great running game and a good long pass, we don't score many trys off short passes from him.
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hounddog - 7 Aug 2022 5:11 PM
zoz2015 - 7 Aug 2022 5:00 PM

I like to think that we might have gone better in the last 6 weeks if we had Tommo.

We are certainly short one quality prop, 2 witn Vaughan going.

I hope Reed can give the fowards  better service.

JMK has a great running game and a good long pass, we don't score many trys off short passes from him.

Anybody know why we didn’t offer Vaughan another year or two? We are going to miss him. Need more quality props. 

If we play the same footy as the last six weeks next year for the whole year. We beat enough sides to make the eight. It’s so simple. But can we do it?

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Mooloolabadog - 6 Aug 2022 12:23 PM
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Wow. That's bad. Throughout the season many teams would improve their for and against with extra time.

I disagree.
If a team is banking on playing many golden points games through a season, they are not really a top 4 team a day more like  6th-10th team.

If you think that's a good thing, go for it.

Good top 4 teams put teams to the sword mire often than not and scrape wins (or losses) in GP games. They don't aim for them. They settle for them if they cannot win the game well before 80th min.
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Steveswr33333 - 7 Aug 2022 4:05 PM
Little things mean a lot...just before half time Dogs kicked through and Kiraz knocked it back into a Cowboy who took the ball dead...the refs are constantly getting the "not played at" calls wrong and this was a classic example. If the bloke is actively involved in the play that cannot be the call. He was there so he was involved in the play. Leilua is a great player but surely his "try" was a double movement. Again refereeing the basics seems too hard.


I also initially thought Leilua's try was dou le movement but on second view I was ok to concede it was a fair try.

One has to be reminded of the "gift" of a try in the 2004 GF by El masri who came to a complete stop in goal and them dived again to score. 

Hard to throw stones after that.....
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hounddog - 7 Aug 2022 5:05 PM
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If we are honest we are lacking 3-4 players in key positions compared to the top sides.

But inspite of that, with better ball control and a bit better execution in attack we could have beat the 2nd best side.

Playing the top sides shows us where we need to improve and what the required level is.

We have improved a lot in the last 6 weeks, but we are only halfway to where we want to be.

How we play now is how I expected us to be playing after 1 or 2 rounds, and in round 20 I expected us to be playing even better.

Potter has done extremely well to give us hope for the future and enjoy watching the team for rest of year. 

The weight of expectation has been lifted due to us not playing for finals. But id like the team to start practising winning even with expectation. 
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Micko - 7 Aug 2022 8:46 PM
hounddog - 7 Aug 2022 5:11 PM

Anybody know why we didn’t offer Vaughan another year or two? We are going to miss him. Need more quality props. 

If we play the same footy as the last six weeks next year for the whole year. We beat enough sides to make the eight. It’s so simple. But can we do it?

Vaughan has really impressed. I'm filthy we didnt kerp him. He is also a better on field captain than Jacko. 
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Marki - 7 Aug 2022 11:11 PM
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Vaughan has really impressed. I'm filthy we didnt kerp him. He is also a better on field captain than Jacko. 

Vaughan has been good BUT he is on 2 and sixpence this year. The Bulldogs resurrected his career after the debacle of a party he held with St George during the covid lockdown. He was on a one year contract and destined for the super league. I feel he auditioned well for the superleague.  Jacko is doing okay...is he the Bulldog's player you must malign at the moment.? It is a pity Luke Thompson was so badly affected by concussion as he is a great player. His running is some of most explosive I've seen from a forward. in recent times. 
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Marki - 7 Aug 2022 11:11 PM

Vaughan has been good BUT he is on 2 and sixpence this year. The Bulldogs resurrected his career after the debacle of a party he held with St George during the covid lockdown. He was on a one year contract and destined for the super league. I feel he auditioned well for the superleague.  Jacko is doing okay...is he the Bulldog's player you must malign at the moment.? It is a pity Luke Thompson was so badly affected by concussion as he is a great player. His running is some of most explosive I've seen from a forward. in recent times. 

I don't mind Thompson. Always thought he timed his runs well in a team that constantly plays at an incorrect tempo.

As for Jacko, I was trying to praise Vaughan's on field captaincy rather than stick the boot into Jacko, but the reality is Jacko ain't a good enough on field captain.

The BBQ incident sounds as stupid now as it did when it happened. The financial loss to Vaughan is unfathomable for an incident that didn't hurt anyone but was just a broken rule.....
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The murkiness returns with the dredging of the BDP channel. A tepid welcome back Marki.
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BtW your remarks about for and against was totally out ofcontext with the earliet discussion. If you care to resd back we were musing the subject of golden point and why we should get rid of it.
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Mooloolabadog - 6 Aug 2022 12:23 PM

I disagree.
If a team is banking on playing many golden points games through a season, they are not really a top 4 team a day more like  6th-10th team.

If you think that's a good thing, go for it.

Good top 4 teams put teams to the sword mire often than not and scrape wins (or losses) in GP games. They don't aim for them. They settle for them if they cannot win the game well before 80th min.

Not banking on it, but it is a distortion 
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