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Villi - 11 Aug 2020 10:23 PM
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No drama’s..... TPJ can hang with Dman & his outlaw gang after hours 

Any player that plays the game differently to Tolman, has my vote.

I am all for TPJ.
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Marki - 11 Aug 2020 11:17 PM
Villi - 11 Aug 2020 10:23 PM

Any player that plays the game differently to Tolman, has my vote.

I am all for TPJ.

Tolman, JMK, Jackson, Sue, Stimpson..... none of these players strike fear into any opposition forward packs 

All nice guys that offer just about the same.... can rack up 40-50 tackles. 


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Villi - 11 Aug 2020 11:27 PM
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Tolman, JMK, Jackson, Sue, Stimpson..... none of these players strike fear into any opposition forward packs 

All nice guys that offer just about the same.... can rack up 40-50 tackles. 


You cant have 13 SBW's but I would not be keeping the first 3. 

Sue I believe offers a varied game and should be persisted with for another year or two. Simpson....well we just havent seen enough of him in our colors to determine if he fits or not. On the few games earlier in season, you'd say no but I think we are playing better now than start of season. In any case I believe he's signed for another year or two.
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moses mybe anyone ? according 2 foxsports nrl mage westigers coach trying 2 push his captain out & the westigers will pay 1/2 his salary 2 any takers according 2 foxsports nrl mybe is on $800,000  but whom wants him has to only pay $400,000  why micheal mcguire is trying 2 give harry grant a good deal 2 stay ,also n z warrirers have signed 
euan atkin from st george on a 3 year deal  & the warriers tyring to get matt lodge form the bronkos if he wants break his contract there
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Villi - 11 Aug 2020 10:23 PM
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No drama’s..... TPJ can hang with Dman & his outlaw gang after hours 

Great solution! he will be the best behaved of the bunch.
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tony v_1 - 12 Aug 2020 7:49 AM
moses mybe anyone ? according 2 foxsports nrl mage westigers coach trying 2 push his captain out & the westigers will pay 1/2 his salary 2 any takers according 2 foxsports nrl mybe is on $800,000  but whom wants him has to only pay $400,000  why micheal mcguire is trying 2 give harry grant a good deal 2 stay ,also n z warrirers have signed 
euan atkin from st george on a 3 year deal  & the warriers tyring to get matt lodge form the bronkos if he wants break his contract there

Moses' issue has been that he is no organiser and all attempts to make hime such haven't worked - his is fast runner of the ball and has a silky pass when playing off the cuff . He hasn't worked as an organising 7 or 6 or  as a 9  and even surprisingly at 1 where he can roam and play off others.

I would love to see him play a real traditional 6 role alongside a really dominate 7 who owned the team and they played together on both sides of the ruck as a traditional  7 and 6. Say off Pearce at Newcastle or DCE or Adam Reynolds. Similar issues as Milford at the Broncos.

I always had time for his skills but we just couldn't nail his spot



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dogdoctor - 12 Aug 2020 9:38 AM
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Moses' issue has been that he is no organiser and all attempts to make hime such haven't worked - his is fast runner of the ball and has a silky pass when playing off the cuff . He hasn't worked as an organising 7 or 6 or  as a 9  and even surprisingly at 1 where he can roam and play off others.

I would love to see him play a real traditional 6 role alongside a really dominate 7 who owned the team and they played together on both sides of the ruck as a traditional  7 and 6. Say off Pearce at Newcastle or DCE or Adam Reynolds. Similar issues as Milford at the Broncos.

I always had time for his skills but we just couldn't nail his spot



At 800k I thought he'd well and truly nailed his best spot for us, and that was at the Tigers.
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Looks like Adam elliett has told all 4 teams after him his going 2 re commit & stay @ the dogs ... I’m not fussed if he stays though I’d rather tevita Pangai as his a beast if he dosnt have brain snaps 
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tony v_1 - 12 Aug 2020 7:49 AM
moses mybe anyone ? according 2 foxsports nrl mage westigers coach trying 2 push his captain out & the westigers will pay 1/2 his salary 2 any takers according 2 foxsports nrl mybe is on $800,000  but whom wants him has to only pay $400,000  why micheal mcguire is trying 2 give harry grant a good deal 2 stay ,also n z warrirers have signed 
euan atkin from st george on a 3 year deal  & the warriers tyring to get matt lodge form the bronkos if he wants break his contract there

Mbye???... Yuck... 
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oldbatchman - 12 Aug 2020 12:31 PM
dogdoctor - 12 Aug 2020 9:38 AM

At 800k I thought he'd well and truly nailed his best spot for us, and that was at the Tigers.

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Supercoach will be happy.... Elliott staying put for another 3yrs

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dman2018 - 12 Aug 2020 12:44 PM
tony v_1 - 12 Aug 2020 7:49 AM

Mbye???... Yuck... 

Agreed.
We did well to offload him.
Let him be someone else's problem.

Mbye has turned out to be nothing but a 350k player. Not a cent more. 
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Villi - 12 Aug 2020 2:18 PM
Supercoach will be happy.... Elliott staying put for another 3yrs

Being one of our better forwards over the last few years, I think it's a good result for us.

I would still love TPJ to replace Tolman, Napa or both.
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tony v_1 - 12 Aug 2020 12:42 PM
Looks like Adam elliett has told all 4 teams after him his going 2 re commit & stay @ the dogs ... I’m not fussed if he stays though I’d rather tevita Pangai as his a beast if he dosnt have brain snaps 

Well Tony...he doesn't have brain snaps for a simple reason...think of the scarecrow's song from Wizard of Oz..."If I only had a brain" Mr Pangai is infinitely dumb
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Marki - 12 Aug 2020 2:59 PM
dman2018 - 12 Aug 2020 12:44 PM

Agreed.
We did well to offload him.
Let him be someone else's problem.

Mbye has turned out to be nothing but a 350k player. Not a cent more. 

Woods and M'bye were not really losses.
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Marki - 12 Aug 2020 3:00 PM
Villi - 12 Aug 2020 2:18 PM

Being one of our better forwards over the last few years, I think it's a good result for us.

I would still love TPJ to replace Tolman, Napa or both.

I will make you happy and say no now we have resigned Elloitt and signed Thompson  we don't need Tolman.
I would also like to get rid of Napa.
We can move Jackson to the middle.
With Sue, Renouf T, Odgen and Thompson that is a good start we would be better off signing one quality starting prop and one quality backrower.

Perhaps TPJ but the club  should look at all options.
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Marki - 12 Aug 2020 2:59 PM

Woods and M'bye were not really losses.

While the Tigers paid way overs for M'Bye he is an NRL standard player, better than Holland, Montoya, Cogger and JMK... becuase of his utility value he covers multiple positions so at worst is a good 14.

I  prefer him to Josh Renolds, but I prefer Nicho Hynes to M'Bye... it is all down to money, but 1-2 utility players who can cover dummy half and multiple backline positions are always handy.
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Moving ahead for 2021
our forward pack is same as bar Thompson for toleman
still no Quality no 9 or as yet 
our half’s still not sorted as well ! Is Foran staying or going ?
no number 7 as wakeham or Lewis just aren’t nrl   Good enough & if Foran goes then what happens ?
& say 1 more back either a winger or centre if lafai goes as his only hear for 7 more games hard 2 judge on his 2 games his played 
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tony v_1 - 12 Aug 2020 4:34 PM
Moving ahead for 2021
our forward pack is same as bar Thompson for toleman
still no Quality no 9 or as yet 
our half’s still not sorted as well ! Is Foran staying or going ?
no number 7 as wakeham or Lewis just aren’t nrl   Good enough & if Foran goes then what happens ?
& say 1 more back either a winger or centre if lafai goes as his only hear for 7 more games hard 2 judge on his 2 games his played 

Foran is quality somewhere somehow and sometime he has to have a bit of luck...even poor old Chase Stanley played a few games in a row. 
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Steveswr33333 - 12 Aug 2020 4:46 PM
tony v_1 - 12 Aug 2020 4:34 PM

Foran is quality somewhere somehow and sometime he has to have a bit of luck...even poor old Chase Stanley played a few games in a row. 

Foran's injury history will affect the price.
So if he stays it is probably on more reasonable money. 
And if he goes it frees up money.
If we can sign Burton from the Panthers we are in reasonable shape regardless. Foran staying is iceing on the cake.
I still think Wakeham has what it takes, or probably does, the main thing is him getting the confidence to take control of a game.
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Villi - 12 Aug 2020 2:18 PM
Supercoach will be happy.... Elliott staying put for another 3yrs

If true that’s great, jas been our amongst our best for 18 months, and I bet it’s nowhere the $700K you believed hack grub germoulist types said he was chasing...

Obviously Baz is keen to have him there too...
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I can see Marki’s mate Tolman getting picked up by the Broncos next year.  

They’ll be after a few players with experience and a good background in off field behaviour. 

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Villi - 12 Aug 2020 7:01 PM
I can see Marki’s mate Tolman getting picked up by the Broncos next year.  

They’ll be after a few players with experience and a good background in off field behaviour. 

No joke, there is a cultural issue at the Broncos.

Too many big headed players thinking they are special and entitled.

So with someone like TPJ we want him to adopt our standards, not bring his standards.

We know what we are getting with Elliott.
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tony v_1 - 12 Aug 2020 4:34 PM
Moving ahead for 2021
our forward pack is same as bar Thompson for toleman
still no Quality no 9 or as yet 
our half’s still not sorted as well ! Is Foran staying or going ?
no number 7 as wakeham or Lewis just aren’t nrl   Good enough & if Foran goes then what happens ?
& say 1 more back either a winger or centre if lafai goes as his only hear for 7 more games hard 2 judge on his 2 games his played 

We have got money to spend, so the fat lady is just getting changed into her outfit for the gig, and we don't want to see that bit.
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Dean Ritchie just published an article in the Scumgraph that T Baz doesn’t want any of the current coaches..... T Ayoub, Grimaldi, Harry Harris, Georgalis etc.... gone!
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Villi - 12 Aug 2020 7:26 PM
Dean Ritchie just published an article in the Scumgraph that T Baz doesn’t want any of the current coaches..... T Ayoub, Grimaldi, Harry Harris, Georgalis etc.... gone!

Baz is offering you and I more money... I say we hold out for leagues club director positions... Dman could use friends in positions of power.

On a more serious note, when in doubt, change everything.
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Villi - 12 Aug 2020 7:26 PM
Dean Ritchie just published an article in the Scumgraph that T Baz doesn’t want any of the current coaches..... T Ayoub, Grimaldi, Harry Harris, Georgalis etc.... gone!

Fair enough...
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dman2018 - 12 Aug 2020 7:41 PM
Villi - 12 Aug 2020 7:26 PM

Fair enough...

I’ve got no issue with it....

Some of fwit Dessy and some of Pay’s guys still remain..... T Baz wants to start fresh, it’ll be good for the players too!!!
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Steveswr33333 - 12 Aug 2020 3:11 PM

While the Tigers paid way overs for M'Bye he is an NRL standard player, better than Holland, Montoya, Cogger and JMK... becuase of his utility value he covers multiple positions so at worst is a good 14.

I  prefer him to Josh Renolds, but I prefer Nicho Hynes to M'Bye... it is all down to money, but 1-2 utility players who can cover dummy half and multiple backline positions are always handy.

I dont agree on Mbye over JR.
JR inspires the team. 
Mbye has the opposite effect. His mouth makes the team think they are better than they are and that everything is ok. He's a myth.
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Villi - 12 Aug 2020 7:01 PM
I can see Marki’s mate Tolman getting picked up by the Broncos next year.  

They’ll be after a few players with experience and a good background in off field behaviour. 

Nothing would make me happier....
Ok...maybe if he went to Parra....
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