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+x+x+x+xReported in the Telecrap that Andrew Hill has left the club. Must have had a good job offer. Massive news. He was doing awesome job.
This is a big issue. I agree he was great. I hope he is leaving for a new challenge, and we are in good shape. If the club has moved him on for any reason, that is bad. Any reason???.... I mean I doubt we have a better candidate. if we are moving him pn becuase he stuffed something up that is bad. If we are moving him on becuase of personalities / politics that is extremely bad. If we are moving him on to save money that is short sighted. IMO he is a good operator the next person in that role is not going to be as good.
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+x+x+xReported in the Telecrap that Andrew Hill has left the club. Must have had a good job offer. Massive news. He was doing awesome job.
This is a big issue. Not a big issue if we have someone more talented with better connections lined up.... Its a big issue if Auntie Rae is on her way back... Congrats on the new job, BDP posters should get a discount, I expect that email is coming.
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+x+x+x+x+xReported in the Telecrap that Andrew Hill has left the club. Must have had a good job offer. Massive news. He was doing awesome job.
This is a big issue. I agree he was great. I hope he is leaving for a new challenge, and we are in good shape. If the club has moved him on for any reason, that is bad. Any reason???.... I mean I doubt we have a better candidate. if we are moving him pn becuase he stuffed something up that is bad. If we are moving him on becuase of personalities / politics that is extremely bad. If we are moving him on to save money that is short sighted. IMO he is a good operator the next person in that role is not going to be as good. Posted before I knew Dman was getting the gig ...
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He quit, but probably with a push.
Without claiming inside knowledge, the general consensus is that he and Laundy just didn’t get along - and there would only ever be one winner there.
And Khoury was only one person away from sitting on a Board with admin that had no affiliation with either Dib or the Anderson’s - that one being Hill. So I doubt he tried to stop him.
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Anyway, don’t get to uptight about CEO’s. They’ve got a short use by date anyway. Any one who hasn’t moved on in 3 years or so has no ambition. They come in, implement an agenda and move on.
That’s the way the good ones operate.
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+xAnyway, don’t get to uptight about CEO’s. They’ve got a short use by date anyway. Any one who hasn’t moved on in 3 years or so has no ambition. They come in, implement an agenda and move on. That’s the way the good ones operate. Its abit of a shame because everyone feels we are on the way up with new coach and some key recruitments for this season and next. Would have been good for him to have seen out 2022 I reckon as that it when the fruits of his tenure would come to fruition. Plus he could have been instrumental in landing a couple more fir 2022 that would make us contenders.....
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And by the way....
I heard a snippet of Tim Paines apology for his sledging behaviour on day 5 of the Test and I firmly believe he should be removed from the captaincy.
He is a disgrace - probably more so than sandpaper gate. Why? Because it was getting personal. That's why.
And it was no accident. I dont understand why he was apologising. He meant it. He wont change his thoughts. So fekk him off.
I dont want him representing Australia and the Australian people. If you cant play the game with poise and dignity just dont fekking play it.
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+xAnd by the way.... I heard a snippet of Tim Paines apology for his sledging behaviour on day 5 of the Test and I firmly believe he should be removed from the captaincy. He is a disgrace - probably more so than sandpaper gate. Why? Because it was getting personal. That's why. And it was no accident. I dont understand why he was apologising. He meant it. He wont change his thoughts. So fekk him off. I dont want him representing Australia and the Australian people. If you cant play the game with poise and dignity just dont fekking play it. And I blame the umpires for not jumping in and shutting him up after Ashwin moved away numerous times from his batting crease and complained to the umpires. Maybe some of it was abit soft, but either way, the umps should have stepped in and muzzled Paine up.
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+xAnd by the way.... I heard a snippet of Tim Paines apology for his sledging behaviour on day 5 of the Test and I firmly believe he should be removed from the captaincy. He is a disgrace - probably more so than sandpaper gate. Why? Because it was getting personal. That's why. And it was no accident. I dont understand why he was apologising. He meant it. He wont change his thoughts. So fekk him off. I dont want him representing Australia and the Australian people. If you cant play the game with poise and dignity just dont fekking play it. In both cases poor performance and leadership results from an inability to perform under pressure. As I posted after the game Paine is about the worst tactical captain I have seen. The 2 good captains were Tubby Taylor and Steve Waugh, A.B also good. Most of the rest get a pass mark. I would make Cummins captain and consider a new keeper. A captain has to be a natural leader who's place in the side is unquestioned. The view that a fast bowler can't captain the side is crap, many have.
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+x+xAnd by the way.... I heard a snippet of Tim Paines apology for his sledging behaviour on day 5 of the Test and I firmly believe he should be removed from the captaincy. He is a disgrace - probably more so than sandpaper gate. Why? Because it was getting personal. That's why. And it was no accident. I dont understand why he was apologising. He meant it. He wont change his thoughts. So fekk him off. I dont want him representing Australia and the Australian people. If you cant play the game with poise and dignity just dont fekking play it. And I blame the umpires for not jumping in and shutting him up after Ashwin moved away numerous times from his batting crease and complained to the umpires. Maybe some of it was abit soft, but either way, the umps should have stepped in and muzzled Paine up. Besides anything else it didn't work and was never going to work. Sledging the Indians just motivates them. The Kiwis do better than us against a lot of tests sides, because they are well mannered teams relax a bit. If we want to unsettle or intimidate opposition batsmen, that is what the ball is for. We have the fast bowlers to do the job. Let the ball talk and you only need the odd glare or witty remark to back it up. We had a lot of funky fields with a stacked leg side, fast bowlers take a lot of wickets with balls outside off. We rarely varied the field, the bowling lines or the tactics, we didn't seem to have a plan for each batsman. If this isn't the captain's fault it is the coach's. The quality of our bowling helps disquise these brain dead tactics. It is like the DesBall version of cricket only with quality players.
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+x+xAnd by the way.... I heard a snippet of Tim Paines apology for his sledging behaviour on day 5 of the Test and I firmly believe he should be removed from the captaincy. He is a disgrace - probably more so than sandpaper gate. Why? Because it was getting personal. That's why. And it was no accident. I dont understand why he was apologising. He meant it. He wont change his thoughts. So fekk him off. I dont want him representing Australia and the Australian people. If you cant play the game with poise and dignity just dont fekking play it. In both cases poor performance and leadership results from an inability to perform under pressure. As I posted after the game Paine is about the worst tactical captain I have seen. The 2 good captains were Tubby Taylor and Steve Waugh, A.B also good. Most of the rest get a pass mark. I would make Cummins captain and consider a new keeper. A captain has to be a natural leader who's place in the side is unquestioned. The view that a fast bowler can't captain the side is crap, many have. Agreed. But I wouldnt be unhappy if Steve Smith was given the job back.
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+x+x+xAnd by the way.... I heard a snippet of Tim Paines apology for his sledging behaviour on day 5 of the Test and I firmly believe he should be removed from the captaincy. He is a disgrace - probably more so than sandpaper gate. Why? Because it was getting personal. That's why. And it was no accident. I dont understand why he was apologising. He meant it. He wont change his thoughts. So fekk him off. I dont want him representing Australia and the Australian people. If you cant play the game with poise and dignity just dont fekking play it. In both cases poor performance and leadership results from an inability to perform under pressure. As I posted after the game Paine is about the worst tactical captain I have seen. The 2 good captains were Tubby Taylor and Steve Waugh, A.B also good. Most of the rest get a pass mark. I would make Cummins captain and consider a new keeper. A captain has to be a natural leader who's place in the side is unquestioned. The view that a fast bowler can't captain the side is crap, many have. Agreed. But I wouldnt be unhappy if Steve Smith was given the job back. Poise, dignity and the type of person we want leading Australia do not add up to Steve Smith
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+xIf this isn't the captain's fault it is the coach's. The quality of our bowling helps disquise these brain dead tactics.
I agree. As others have already said about the bowling in the 3rd test, the quality of the bowlers is there but the tactics were diabolical. The final day especially. They were up against batsmen not interested in scoring runs. They were 100% defensive. Anything short or wide they let go. Anyone with any awareness of the sport knew they had to bowl on the stumps to get the batsmen to play at the ball, it was the only way to get wickets. But no, that was a rarity, it was mostly all short & wide, resulting in a complete waste of time that gave the batsmen an easy way not just to survive but to use up the clock to avoid defeat, not to mention tiring out the bowlers. On top of that, the captain mouthing off at the batsmen trying to put them off their concentration only put himself off his own concentration resulting in a vital dropped catch. So, yes, the coach is the one that should've got instructions out there to stop the nonsense with both sledging & not bowling at the stumps because the captain was clearly incapable. It's such beginners level stuff that there's no point them saying lessons are learnt. If they were cooking at a BBQ they'd probably be putting their fingers in the hot flames & stabbing themselves with a fork learning those lessons & wondering why the meal wasn't as successful as they thought it would be. It's such basic level common sense. The whole thing is a wake up call for the selectors as well. Obviously the selectors can't do anything for the 4th test because the squad of 19 is already locked in, but it does put a question mark over them for the following series. In the meantime it is like desball, hoping for the opposition team to make the errors & relying on luck not skills & smarts to get a win.
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+x+xIf this isn't the captain's fault it is the coach's. The quality of our bowling helps disquise these brain dead tactics.
I agree. As others have already said about the bowling in the 3rd test, the quality of the bowlers is there but the tactics were diabolical. The final day especially. They were up against batsmen not interested in scoring runs. They were 100% defensive. Anything short or wide they let go. Anyone with any awareness of the sport knew they had to bowl on the stumps to get the batsmen to play at the ball, it was the only way to get wickets. But no, that was a rarity, it was mostly all short & wide, resulting in a complete waste of time that gave the batsmen an easy way not just to survive but to use up the clock to avoid defeat, not to mention tiring out the bowlers. On top of that, the captain mouthing off at the batsmen trying to put them off their concentration only put himself off his own concentration resulting in a vital dropped catch. So, yes, the coach is the one that should've got instructions out there to stop the nonsense with both sledging & not bowling at the stumps because the captain was clearly incapable. It's such beginners level stuff that there's no point them saying lessons are learnt. If they were cooking at a BBQ they'd probably be putting their fingers in the hot flames & stabbing themselves with a fork learning those lessons & wondering why the meal wasn't as successful as they thought it would be. It's such basic level common sense. The whole thing is a wake up call for the selectors as well. Obviously the selectors can't do anything for the 4th test because the squad of 19 is already locked in, but it does put a question mark over them for the following series. In the meantime it is like desball, hoping for the opposition team to make the errors & relying on luck not skills & smarts to get a win. That last sentence goes in any sport. It's sometimes ok when you're the huge underdog to just hang in there and get the win off the back of opposition errors but when you're recognized as a competitive team (if not the best) then it is laughable to say the least. Perhaps the team needs a pep talk from a Roger Federer or someone like him, who can win, can be at his best or worst, and still remain a gentleman.
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+xThat last sentence goes in any sport. It's sometimes ok when you're the huge underdog to just hang in there and get the win off the back of opposition errors but when you're recognized as a competitive team (if not the best) then it is laughable to say the least. Perhaps the team needs a pep talk from a Roger Federer or someone like him, who can win, can be at his best or worst, and still remain a gentleman. They'll just have to live & learn, but they've left it a little late for a few things. One last chance at least. For the 4th test all those short pitched & outside off stump balls come back into it with India on the hunt for runs again, but for the final day of the 3rd test that was the worst way to go about it & it's a concern about the smarts of the team & coaches that it happened that way. Apart from that & a few other things others pointed out it's all even again & whoever wins the toss has a big advantage this time. Assuming they want to win...
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+x+xThat last sentence goes in any sport. It's sometimes ok when you're the huge underdog to just hang in there and get the win off the back of opposition errors but when you're recognized as a competitive team (if not the best) then it is laughable to say the least. Perhaps the team needs a pep talk from a Roger Federer or someone like him, who can win, can be at his best or worst, and still remain a gentleman. They'll just have to live & learn, but they've left it a little late for a few things. One last chance at least. For the 4th test all those short pitched & outside off stump balls come back into it with India on the hunt for runs again, but for the final day of the 3rd test that was the worst way to go about it & it's a concern about the smarts of the team & coaches that it happened that way. Apart from that & a few other things others pointed out it's all even again & whoever wins the toss has a big advantage this time. Assuming they want to win... Like I have said many times over..... we must win this Test to not lose the series and that means we need to put India in if we get the chance and if we end up batting first and get India out cheaply we MUST enforce a follow on otherwise we run the risk of losing the series due to time.
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+x+x+xThat last sentence goes in any sport. It's sometimes ok when you're the huge underdog to just hang in there and get the win off the back of opposition errors but when you're recognized as a competitive team (if not the best) then it is laughable to say the least. Perhaps the team needs a pep talk from a Roger Federer or someone like him, who can win, can be at his best or worst, and still remain a gentleman. They'll just have to live & learn, but they've left it a little late for a few things. One last chance at least. For the 4th test all those short pitched & outside off stump balls come back into it with India on the hunt for runs again, but for the final day of the 3rd test that was the worst way to go about it & it's a concern about the smarts of the team & coaches that it happened that way. Apart from that & a few other things others pointed out it's all even again & whoever wins the toss has a big advantage this time. Assuming they want to win... Like I have said many times over..... we must win this Test to not lose the series That is not correct, a draw will also see us not lose the series...
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+x+x+xThat last sentence goes in any sport. It's sometimes ok when you're the huge underdog to just hang in there and get the win off the back of opposition errors but when you're recognized as a competitive team (if not the best) then it is laughable to say the least. Perhaps the team needs a pep talk from a Roger Federer or someone like him, who can win, can be at his best or worst, and still remain a gentleman. They'll just have to live & learn, but they've left it a little late for a few things. One last chance at least. For the 4th test all those short pitched & outside off stump balls come back into it with India on the hunt for runs again, but for the final day of the 3rd test that was the worst way to go about it & it's a concern about the smarts of the team & coaches that it happened that way. Apart from that & a few other things others pointed out it's all even again & whoever wins the toss has a big advantage this time. Assuming they want to win... enforce a follow on otherwise we run the risk of losing the series due to time. You’re kidding yourself if you think this test goes the full 5 days in Brisbane at night...
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+x+x+x+xThat last sentence goes in any sport. It's sometimes ok when you're the huge underdog to just hang in there and get the win off the back of opposition errors but when you're recognized as a competitive team (if not the best) then it is laughable to say the least. Perhaps the team needs a pep talk from a Roger Federer or someone like him, who can win, can be at his best or worst, and still remain a gentleman. They'll just have to live & learn, but they've left it a little late for a few things. One last chance at least. For the 4th test all those short pitched & outside off stump balls come back into it with India on the hunt for runs again, but for the final day of the 3rd test that was the worst way to go about it & it's a concern about the smarts of the team & coaches that it happened that way. Apart from that & a few other things others pointed out it's all even again & whoever wins the toss has a big advantage this time. Assuming they want to win... enforce a follow on otherwise we run the risk of losing the series due to time. You’re kidding yourself if you think this test goes the full 5 days in Brisbane at night... If Australia can't win at Brisbane with India's best batsman at home and 3 first choice quicks out injured, they don't deserve to. Standby for the phone call I told them you had Indian blood and a Punchbowl Brahman even most prestigious than a Kashmiri Brahman. I bet you always dreamed about opening the bowling in a test.
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+x+x+x+xThat last sentence goes in any sport. It's sometimes ok when you're the huge underdog to just hang in there and get the win off the back of opposition errors but when you're recognized as a competitive team (if not the best) then it is laughable to say the least. Perhaps the team needs a pep talk from a Roger Federer or someone like him, who can win, can be at his best or worst, and still remain a gentleman. They'll just have to live & learn, but they've left it a little late for a few things. One last chance at least. For the 4th test all those short pitched & outside off stump balls come back into it with India on the hunt for runs again, but for the final day of the 3rd test that was the worst way to go about it & it's a concern about the smarts of the team & coaches that it happened that way. Apart from that & a few other things others pointed out it's all even again & whoever wins the toss has a big advantage this time. Assuming they want to win... Like I have said many times over..... we must win this Test to not lose the series That is not correct, a draw will also see us not lose the series... Try telling that to the NSW Blues when QLD retained the SOO series afew years back as holders following a drawn series If we want to win the Border-Gavaskar trophy, we must win.
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+x+x+x+x+xThat last sentence goes in any sport. It's sometimes ok when you're the huge underdog to just hang in there and get the win off the back of opposition errors but when you're recognized as a competitive team (if not the best) then it is laughable to say the least. Perhaps the team needs a pep talk from a Roger Federer or someone like him, who can win, can be at his best or worst, and still remain a gentleman. They'll just have to live & learn, but they've left it a little late for a few things. One last chance at least. For the 4th test all those short pitched & outside off stump balls come back into it with India on the hunt for runs again, but for the final day of the 3rd test that was the worst way to go about it & it's a concern about the smarts of the team & coaches that it happened that way. Apart from that & a few other things others pointed out it's all even again & whoever wins the toss has a big advantage this time. Assuming they want to win... Like I have said many times over..... we must win this Test to not lose the series That is not correct, a draw will also see us not lose the series... Try telling that to the NSW Blues when QLD retained the SOO series afew years back as holders following a drawn series If we want to win the Border-Gavaskar trophy, we must win. That is a correct statement...
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+xLike I have said many times over..... we must win this Test to not lose the series and that means we need to put India in if we get the chance and if we end up batting first and get India out cheaply we MUST enforce a follow on otherwise we run the risk of losing the series due to time. India’s bowling has been decimated by injury, but their batting is still very strong. And as you rightly pointed out we need to WIN this Test to claim the trophy while a draw would be good enough for India, in fact offer it to them today and I’d bet they’d grab it with two hands. So India’s best hope is that their batting puts them a position to draw the Test first, and then hope Aus gifts them a batting collapse to win it. And to get that their best hope is to bat first well into Day 2 and hopefully even Day 3 with 400 plus on the board. So why would any Aust Capt, player, or fan want to win the toss and give them what they want, and what gives them the greatest chance to achieve a result in their favour? Whoever wins the toss on Fri will bat first, I doubt even a foot long green top in 100% humidity would change that.
And it will be the ONLY correct decision.
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+x+xLike I have said many times over..... we must win this Test to not lose the series and that means we need to put India in if we get the chance and if we end up batting first and get India out cheaply we MUST enforce a follow on otherwise we run the risk of losing the series due to time. So why would any Aust Capt, player, or fan want to win the toss and give them what they want, and what gives them the greatest chance to achieve a result in their favour? Whoever wins the toss on Fri will bat first, I doubt even a foot long green top in 100% humidity would change that.
And it will be the ONLY correct decision. But we are not talking to a C, player, or fan.... We are talking about a bloke that thinks he could win aNRL premiership with 13 fullbacks in his starting side...
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+x+x+xLike I have said many times over..... we must win this Test to not lose the series and that means we need to put India in if we get the chance and if we end up batting first and get India out cheaply we MUST enforce a follow on otherwise we run the risk of losing the series due to time. So why would any Aust Capt, player, or fan want to win the toss and give them what they want, and what gives them the greatest chance to achieve a result in their favour? Whoever wins the toss on Fri will bat first, I doubt even a foot long green top in 100% humidity would change that.
And it will be the ONLY correct decision. But we are not talking to a C, player, or fan.... We are talking about a bloke that thinks he could win aNRL premiership with 13 fullbacks in his starting side... That's what Winviz says.... You guys are going off a long standing tradition of batting first being the correct decision. You are using the weight of first bat stats to prove yourselves. The only reason why there arent wins from batting second is because there havent been enough of the scenarios. I dont have an issue with batting first on most other occasions and the pitch may well warrant it again in Brisbane. But when you are down to the last Test and its a must win, you (A) cany afford to run out of time and not get a result, and (B) you dont want to second guess what score is a winning one. So the correct decision is to GET the 20 wickets and KNOW what the winning score needs to be before time runs out. You can do it by making them bat first or you bat first in the hope you score plenty and enforce the follow on the minute it's available. Winviz is not stupid. It's a computer analysis that picks the statistically best results from the scenario at hand
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Winvis? The thing that had three different results as favourite depending on what time you viewed it on the final day? That Winvis? I hate to tell you, but yes it is stupid, it’s nothing but a number cruncher that can’t see past it’s own multiplications.
If you trust it so much, have a look at who it favours about 2 mins after the toss on Fri.
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+x+x+x+xLike I have said many times over..... we must win this Test to not lose the series and that means we need to put India in if we get the chance and if we end up batting first and get India out cheaply we MUST enforce a follow on otherwise we run the risk of losing the series due to time. So why would any Aust Capt, player, or fan want to win the toss and give them what they want, and what gives them the greatest chance to achieve a result in their favour? Whoever wins the toss on Fri will bat first, I doubt even a foot long green top in 100% humidity would change that.
And it will be the ONLY correct decision. But we are not talking to a C, player, or fan.... We are talking about a bloke that thinks he could win aNRL premiership with 13 fullbacks in his starting side... The only reason why there arent wins from batting second is because there havent been enough of the scenarios. I’d dare say plenty of tests that went to a fourth innings were an opportunity for a win for the side batting... just very few of them resulted in a win..., And your new best mate crapviz is definitely stupid... Maybe look at some actual stats instead of relying on crapviz...,
Also, you keep crapping on about how batting second gives a team the best chance of winning but are now saying those winning scenarios don’t eventuate...
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Over 2000 tests played... 54 scores over 350 in 4th innings... (including timeless tests)... Only 11 of those 53 resulted in a win.... So does knowing what you have to score in the 4th inning increase the likelihood of victory???....
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4th innings totals over 300 is 700 odd occasions with 61 of those being wins...
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Only 5 current players in test cricket average over 40 in 4th innings...
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+x+x+x+x+xLike I have said many times over..... we must win this Test to not lose the series and that means we need to put India in if we get the chance and if we end up batting first and get India out cheaply we MUST enforce a follow on otherwise we run the risk of losing the series due to time. So why would any Aust Capt, player, or fan want to win the toss and give them what they want, and what gives them the greatest chance to achieve a result in their favour? Whoever wins the toss on Fri will bat first, I doubt even a foot long green top in 100% humidity would change that.
And it will be the ONLY correct decision. But we are not talking to a C, player, or fan.... We are talking about a bloke that thinks he could win aNRL premiership with 13 fullbacks in his starting side... The only reason why there arent wins from batting second is because there havent been enough of the scenarios. I’d dare say plenty of tests that went to a fourth innings were an opportunity for a win for the side batting... just very few of them resulted in a win..., And your new best mate crapviz is definitely stupid... Maybe look at some actual stats instead of relying on crapviz...,
Also, you keep crapping on about how batting second gives a team the best chance of winning but are now saying those winning scenarios don’t eventuate... No. I never said best chance of winning. I said best chance of getting to a definite result by not losing time to weather or unnecessary runs. Had we won the SCG test, we'd be pretty rosy and it wouldn't matter. But now that we must win, we need to tread carefully and make sure there is a result in this last Test. Your best response on this topic is that the Gabba usually has results inside 4 days let alone 5. But if the wicket is a batter's paradise, and 3.5 days are lost to 1st innings, we better hope we are batting last to have any chance.
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