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+xAm I reading this wrong. A team with 3 concussed players gets to use an 18th man but a team with 2 concussed, an ACL, a broken leg and a dislocated hip doesn't. Surely concussion should be considered an injury the same as many others that can take a player out of the game. Yet another rule made up on the run by these stupid clowns
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xIsnt it ironic that a player regarded as a perfect fit for the Bulldogs, in Adam Reynolds, is off contract from next year, unwanted by Souths for more than 1 year, probably prefers to stay in Sydney, and yet we dont even have an interest in him coz we made our bed with Flanagan and Burton. I am hopeful the Flanagan - Burton combo works out but it's a shame that an elite player that can captain the team, change the way a team plays, reads the game better than most and has hallmarks (tenacity, fearless, passion etc) of a Bulldogs player, not to mention exceptional goalkicker, and we just arent in the market for him. What can you do. I bet in a couple of years after we lock in players at hooker and fullback, guys like Harry Grant, Starling, Tedesco, Turbo tom will be on the market but we would have made our beds..... Are we in an out of phase cycle with our salary cap or is it just me? He is not unwanted by Souths, they are disagreing on his wages. We may have put in a bid behind the scenes, or we might have higher priorities. There is often some luck involved in recruiting big name players, it is hard to plan in advance, becuase often they stay at their existing club. I doubt that we are paying Flanagan big money, if he works out, we are well ahead. Its seems our timing on signing quality players in key positions has been out of whack. Or maybe its our cap management. Afew years ago it was halves (we signed Cogger as there was no one else), similarly we needed a hooker and sign Katoa but let Api, Starling, Grant, and others resign elsewhere. Now we need a gun centre and I hope we can nab someone rather than tow the "there is no quality centres available" line. Kotoni Staggs would be good Doc.... we’ve already spent huge $$$ on Cotric, can’t see the club doing the same again on Staggs. We’re just going to have to uncover a no name or someone looking for an opportunity to partner Cotric.
JAC would be on big $$$ too in 2022.
I've got a hunch that the Doc has maxed out his credit card. Managing a SC isn't easy especially when rebuilding and needing to replace a lot of plsyers. Value for money always carries some level of risk. Proven big name performer in form is always expensive. We need proven performers where we have the biggest problems. Currently that seems to be hooker and prop. And an impact forward. We have good replacements for Hoppa and DWZ in the lower grades. Appart from Doorey, RFM and Elliott we don't have an impact backrower who can make breaks and can offload in traffic. Ideally someone with size, speed and footwork. This is the next priority after hooker and prop IMO. In terms of splashing the cash, I think 3 more experienced NRL signings, with Napa, Hoppa, DWZ and probably a few more leaving. Any replacement half would have to be the recruitment for 2023/2024. I’m just surprised that our club hasn’t produced a decent forward from our assembly line.... like we’re known too.
We can’t for the life of us produce No.9’s or fast backline players... but we’ve alway dished out tough hombre props/forwards but of late, that’s almost non existent. Renouf, Doorey and Topine are good. We let a few go, but we haven't produced many. That is down to scouting, junior development, and not stacking the lower grades with average players. Little know fact SBW is not a Kiwi, he went to school with Dman. Unfortunately he copied Dman's maths homework, which ended his dreams of being an Actuary. You don’t need maths to be a movie star... Did you say MAFS? The G version, GMAFS...
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+xAm I reading this wrong. A team with 3 concussed players gets to use an 18th man but a team with 2 concussed, an ACL, a broken leg and a dislocated hip doesn't. Surely concussion should be considered an injury the same as many others that can take a player out of the game. Ridiculous knee jerk rule to appease lawyers and media (the way of this enlightened age)... where does it or should it stop???... Coaches already fudging HIA, this will be no different... Will be interested to hear how the ‘emerging player’ will be classified... For this to go close to working a week off playing must be mandatory for all HIAs, and the affected player should not be allowed to return to the field... so it becomes a HI, the A should be irrelevant if there is back up...
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xIsnt it ironic that a player regarded as a perfect fit for the Bulldogs, in Adam Reynolds, is off contract from next year, unwanted by Souths for more than 1 year, probably prefers to stay in Sydney, and yet we dont even have an interest in him coz we made our bed with Flanagan and Burton. I am hopeful the Flanagan - Burton combo works out but it's a shame that an elite player that can captain the team, change the way a team plays, reads the game better than most and has hallmarks (tenacity, fearless, passion etc) of a Bulldogs player, not to mention exceptional goalkicker, and we just arent in the market for him. What can you do. I bet in a couple of years after we lock in players at hooker and fullback, guys like Harry Grant, Starling, Tedesco, Turbo tom will be on the market but we would have made our beds..... Are we in an out of phase cycle with our salary cap or is it just me? He is not unwanted by Souths, they are disagreing on his wages. We may have put in a bid behind the scenes, or we might have higher priorities. There is often some luck involved in recruiting big name players, it is hard to plan in advance, becuase often they stay at their existing club. I doubt that we are paying Flanagan big money, if he works out, we are well ahead. Its seems our timing on signing quality players in key positions has been out of whack. Or maybe its our cap management. Afew years ago it was halves (we signed Cogger as there was no one else), similarly we needed a hooker and sign Katoa but let Api, Starling, Grant, and others resign elsewhere. Now we need a gun centre and I hope we can nab someone rather than tow the "there is no quality centres available" line. Kotoni Staggs would be good Doc.... we’ve already spent huge $$$ on Cotric, can’t see the club doing the same again on Staggs. We’re just going to have to uncover a no name or someone looking for an opportunity to partner Cotric.
JAC would be on big $$$ too in 2022.
I've got a hunch that the Doc has maxed out his credit card. Managing a SC isn't easy especially when rebuilding and needing to replace a lot of plsyers. Value for money always carries some level of risk. Proven big name performer in form is always expensive. We need proven performers where we have the biggest problems. Currently that seems to be hooker and prop. And an impact forward. We have good replacements for Hoppa and DWZ in the lower grades. Appart from Doorey, RFM and Elliott we don't have an impact backrower who can make breaks and can offload in traffic. Ideally someone with size, speed and footwork. This is the next priority after hooker and prop IMO. In terms of splashing the cash, I think 3 more experienced NRL signings, with Napa, Hoppa, DWZ and probably a few more leaving. Any replacement half would have to be the recruitment for 2023/2024. I’m just surprised that our club hasn’t produced a decent forward from our assembly line.... like we’re known too.
We can’t for the life of us produce No.9’s or fast backline players... but we’ve alway dished out tough hombre props/forwards but of late, that’s almost non existent. Renouf, Doorey and Topine are good. We let a few go, but we haven't produced many. That is down to scouting, junior development, and not stacking the lower grades with average players. Little know fact SBW is not a Kiwi, he went to school with Dman. Unfortunately he copied Dman's maths homework, which ended his dreams of being an Actuary. You don’t need maths to be a movie star... Did you say MAFS? Is that a middle eastern gang???...
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+x+xAm I reading this wrong. A team with 3 concussed players gets to use an 18th man but a team with 2 concussed, an ACL, a broken leg and a dislocated hip doesn't. Surely concussion should be considered an injury the same as many others that can take a player out of the game. Ridiculous knee jerk rule to appease lawyers and media (the way of this enlightened age)... where does it or should it stop???... Coaches already fudging HIA, this will be no different... Will be interested to hear how the ‘emerging player’ will be classified... For this to go close to working a week off playing must be mandatory for all HIAs, and the affected player should not be allowed to return to the field... so it becomes a HI, the A should be irrelevant if there is back up... If the rule is for 3 or more HIA's then i have no problem with it and i can hardly think of any situation where a coach picks his 17 players and decides at some stage in the game that he should have picked the 18th one instead. Just about the only time a coach will even attempt to use this rule for anything other than its intent, is if he selects 4 forwards on his bench, and realises he fekked up and should have had 1 utility to cover for underperformance on the field. And if a coach is thinking that way, it means his team is well beaten and he is in damage control. If that's what coaches want to do, then so be it. I personally feel that the rule should kick in after 2 HIA's coz as Kenty on NRL360 pointed out, 3 HIA's t has happened only one in 180 or so games.
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I reckon team should be able to use whoever’s available on the day, pick a bench of 50 if they want, but still only the 8 interchanges.
Takes the rort out of it and covers for as many HIA’s as there is.
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+xI reckon team should be able to use whoever’s available on the day, pick a bench of 50 if they want, but still only the 8 interchanges. Takes the rort out of it and covers for as many HIA’s as there is. That's exactly right. The rule is to not disadvantage the team simply because a head injury nowdays may not be something you can play through. You still only can have 13 on the field, so I dont know why everyone is getting their knickers in a knot.
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+xI reckon team should be able to use whoever’s available on the day, pick a bench of 50 if they want, but still only the 8 interchanges. Takes the rort out of it and covers for as many HIA’s as there is. Yep, HIA counts when the player comes off and back on,. If the HIA is from illegal play, e.g. head shot, high tackle, the interchange going off doesn't count. If a player is injured in an illegal tackle the interchange going off doesn't count. Illegal play, spear tackle, crusher, chicken wing, trip, eye gouge etc. Have 6 man bench and 8 interchanges. Teams can account for HIA on the bench. Fresher players make up the difference. The game is fast enough for the extended bench to not make a big difference. We will get better contests if injured players can be replaced by some who can play the position. We need to allow more flexability with the top 30. Make it 35 and scrap development players. Similar reason, clubs with injuries need to seek permission... 35 means even with 10 out injured still 25 to pick from. Count exemptions when more than 10 injured.
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Being optimistic I think Topine might make a positive difference to our team spirit and energy levels.
You can tell when a young guy is liked and respected. If he has impressed Jacko and Tommo that is good enough for me. Tommo might be a team man, but he wouldn't fake enthusiasm.
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I think that that Lewis will help with energy competitiveness and kicking game.
Not saying we will win the match, we probably won't.
I am saying we may show a lot more fight and energy than the critics expect.
Set and maintain that standard, that is the path forward.
Sooner or later we will play a team that can't match our fight and energy, and doesn't have the talent to close the gap. Not often, but often enough.
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+x+xI reckon team should be able to use whoever’s available on the day, pick a bench of 50 if they want, but still only the 8 interchanges. Takes the rort out of it and covers for as many HIA’s as there is. That's exactly right. The rule is to not disadvantage the team simply because a head injury nowdays may not be something you can play through. You still only can have 13 on the field, so I dont know why everyone is getting their knickers in a knot. It's the differentiation and the advantage given for different types of injury that is the problem
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+x+x+xI reckon team should be able to use whoever’s available on the day, pick a bench of 50 if they want, but still only the 8 interchanges. Takes the rort out of it and covers for as many HIA’s as there is. That's exactly right. The rule is to not disadvantage the team simply because a head injury nowdays may not be something you can play through. You still only can have 13 on the field, so I dont know why everyone is getting their knickers in a knot. It's the differentiation and the advantage given for different types of injury that is the problem The other problem is other injuries being treated as HIA, a player who was about to come off faking HIA, etc. If there is no advantage for accidental HIA, players will not fake it. We are past the point where players with head knocks play on. Clearly HIA or injured due to foul play isn't hard to spot, it is hard to fake.
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It will be a long time before the Dogs get back into the finals and top four or a chance at a premiership. It’s just too hard to sign quality players when you are at the bottom. We are the new Parramatta now and living off memories of past greatness.
This is the fault of the admin of the past ten years. All of them. Including the current lot. The only way to get back on top is to start cheating the cap again. With Laundy and his supposed deep pockets we need to get back to buying the best. Best rep players, best juniors, best coach etc.
Fuck I need another beer
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+xIt will be a long time before the Dogs get back into the finals and top four or a chance at a premiership. It’s just too hard to sign quality players when you are at the bottom. We are the new Parramatta now and living off memories of past greatness.
This is the fault of the admin of the past ten years. All of them. Including the current lot. The only way to get back on top is to start cheating the cap again. With Laundy and his supposed deep pockets we need to get back to buying the best. Best rep players, best juniors, best coach etc.
Fuck I need another beer I think the beer will help. This season, i am looking for improvement, desire and energy. I don't expect to make the 8, but I want to see us compete every game and improve. The way forward is scouting and player development, you can't always buy a team, but you can build one. It is important that we try to sign quality with experience, as well as, scout quality. So far Baz seems ok, and recruitment with him on board seems ok. This era is a kind of last roll of the dice for the club. We need to be making the 8 or close to it no later than 2023. 2022 has to be better than 2021, and 2021 has to improve. Much longer at the bottom of the table it will be hard, players will prefer to sign elsewhere, not many fans will remember when we were winners. One thing in our favor, players seem to like being coached by Baz, so far the coach is helping to attract players.
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Dman if you every come to QLD a Covid jab is essential, all the pubs up here seem to be covid hotspots, that is driving us all to drink. You will need high alcohol in take up here for survival, otherwise you will think you are in a Conan the Barbarian movie.
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+xIt will be a long time before the Dogs get back into the finals and top four or a chance at a premiership. It’s just too hard to sign quality players when you are at the bottom. We are the new Parramatta now and living off memories of past greatness.
This is the fault of the admin of the past ten years. All of them. Including the current lot. The only way to get back on top is to start cheating the cap again. With Laundy and his supposed deep pockets we need to get back to buying the best. Best rep players, best juniors, best coach etc.
Fuck I need another beer Micko I hear your pain. To put it into context, our last premiership was when Chris Walker played for the Roosters. Since then, his son was born and is about to play for the Roosters this weekend.... Sorry to fekk your weekends with that thought.
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+x+xIt will be a long time before the Dogs get back into the finals and top four or a chance at a premiership. It’s just too hard to sign quality players when you are at the bottom. We are the new Parramatta now and living off memories of past greatness.
This is the fault of the admin of the past ten years. All of them. Including the current lot. The only way to get back on top is to start cheating the cap again. With Laundy and his supposed deep pockets we need to get back to buying the best. Best rep players, best juniors, best coach etc.
Fuck I need another beer Micko I hear your pain. To put it into context, our last premiership was when Chris Walker played for the Roosters. Since then, his son was born and is about to play for the Roosters this weekend.... Sorry to fekk your weekends with that thought. You sure your not a psychologist?
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+x+x+xIt will be a long time before the Dogs get back into the finals and top four or a chance at a premiership. It’s just too hard to sign quality players when you are at the bottom. We are the new Parramatta now and living off memories of past greatness.
This is the fault of the admin of the past ten years. All of them. Including the current lot. The only way to get back on top is to start cheating the cap again. With Laundy and his supposed deep pockets we need to get back to buying the best. Best rep players, best juniors, best coach etc.
Fuck I need another beer Micko I hear your pain. To put it into context, our last premiership was when Chris Walker played for the Roosters. Since then, his son was born and is about to play for the Roosters this weekend.... Sorry to fekk your weekends with that thought. You sure your not a psychologist? No. Just a clairvoyant.
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Guys, the bookies have us at $9 to win tomorrow, with $11 for 1-12 margin and $26 for 13+.
We are also $1.90 for the line bet with +21.5 start.
Surely we can not lose by more than 21......
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+xMicko I hear your pain. To put it into context, our last premiership was when Chris Walker played for the Roosters. Since then, his son was born and is about to play for the Roosters this weekend.... Sorry to fekk your weekends with that thought. Father is Ben
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+x+x+x+xI reckon team should be able to use whoever’s available on the day, pick a bench of 50 if they want, but still only the 8 interchanges. Takes the rort out of it and covers for as many HIA’s as there is. That's exactly right. The rule is to not disadvantage the team simply because a head injury nowdays may not be something you can play through. You still only can have 13 on the field, so I dont know why everyone is getting their knickers in a knot. It's the differentiation and the advantage given for different types of injury that is the problem The other problem is other injuries being treated as HIA, a player who was about to come off faking HIA, etc. If there is no advantage for accidental HIA, players will not fake it. We are past the point where players with head knocks play on. Clearly HIA or injured due to foul play isn't hard to spot, it is hard to fake. The point is a player with 2 broken legs and 2 broken arms is treated differently. Both are injuries, just to different parts of the body. Zef's suggestion of 8 interchanges don't care about who is probably the simplest and best
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+xGuys, the bookies have us at $9 to win tomorrow, with $11 for 1-12 margin and $26 for 13+. We are also $1.90 for the line bet with +21.5 start. Surely we can not lose by more than 21...... I don't expect to lose by 21. But with the new rules scores can blow out in the last 20 mins... so who knows.
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+x+x+x+x+xI reckon team should be able to use whoever’s available on the day, pick a bench of 50 if they want, but still only the 8 interchanges. Takes the rort out of it and covers for as many HIA’s as there is. That's exactly right. The rule is to not disadvantage the team simply because a head injury nowdays may not be something you can play through. You still only can have 13 on the field, so I dont know why everyone is getting their knickers in a knot. It's the differentiation and the advantage given for different types of injury that is the problem The other problem is other injuries being treated as HIA, a player who was about to come off faking HIA, etc. If there is no advantage for accidental HIA, players will not fake it. We are past the point where players with head knocks play on. Clearly HIA or injured due to foul play isn't hard to spot, it is hard to fake. The point is a player with 2 broken legs and 2 broken arms is treated differently. Both are injuries, just to different parts of the body. Zef's suggestion of 8 interchanges don't care about who is probably the simplest and best That's what I mean.... you can only have 13 on the field at any given time so I cant see why the fuss with the bench. You usually play your best 13 so if coaches are using HIA to refresh their on field team then they are just playing lower ranked players... I dont think it's a big deal. Salary cap is a bigger problem
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+x+xGuys, the bookies have us at $9 to win tomorrow, with $11 for 1-12 margin and $26 for 13+. We are also $1.90 for the line bet with +21.5 start. Surely we can not lose by more than 21...... I don't expect to lose by 21. But with the new rules scores can blow out in the last 20 mins... so who knows. It's one of those games where we could easily be 10-0 up at half time and then get rolled by 10 by the end of the 80.... I might take us at $9 and then cash out after a lead. ....
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+x+x+x+x+x+xI reckon team should be able to use whoever’s available on the day, pick a bench of 50 if they want, but still only the 8 interchanges. Takes the rort out of it and covers for as many HIA’s as there is. That's exactly right. The rule is to not disadvantage the team simply because a head injury nowdays may not be something you can play through. You still only can have 13 on the field, so I dont know why everyone is getting their knickers in a knot. It's the differentiation and the advantage given for different types of injury that is the problem The other problem is other injuries being treated as HIA, a player who was about to come off faking HIA, etc. If there is no advantage for accidental HIA, players will not fake it. We are past the point where players with head knocks play on. Clearly HIA or injured due to foul play isn't hard to spot, it is hard to fake. The point is a player with 2 broken legs and 2 broken arms is treated differently. Both are injuries, just to different parts of the body. Zef's suggestion of 8 interchanges don't care about who is probably the simplest and best That's what I mean.... you can only have 13 on the field at any given time so I cant see why the fuss with the bench. You usually play your best 13 so if coaches are using HIA to refresh their on field team then they are just playing lower ranked players... I dont think it's a big deal. Salary cap is a bigger problem Bench / interchanges determine how fresh each side is. If we want to even up the comp, the salary cap is the place to start. But both sides should have the opportunity to have 13 on the field and 8 interchanges.
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How devastating is this Panthers side.
Just full of exuberance but also with skills set across the park.
Always lovely to see Manly cop a pasting...
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+xHow devastating is this Panthers side. Just full of exuberance but also with skills set across the park. Always lovely to see Manly cop a pasting... We need a special infinite likes button for any post sledging Manly.
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Burton is good in the centres.
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I think we found our gun centre..... its Burton!
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I think the Panthers are a good example of how to build a football team.
Start with a fast team, get your spine fixed, build their endurance, tighten their defence and give them a gameplan that promotes points scoring.
It wont matter how many errors they make. They can defend them and score from anywhere, in any set of 6.
Well done to Ivan Cleary and his staff
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