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Yeah Bronocs are going great under Seibold's coaching ...

But Villi must have some ideas on another 34 players we could recruit.
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Funny thing is Broncos have a lot of talent,... putting in a lot of effort... but players clock off at bad times and don't work together in defence.

Bennett is a defensive coach, Seibold is an attacking coach, or so it seems.

If the Broncos fix their defence they will win more games...
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hounddog - 2 May 2019 9:43 PM
Yeah Bronocs are going great under Seibold's coaching ...

But Villi must have some ideas on another 34 players we could recruit.

EG
Lodge & Oates would be excellent pick ups!

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Bennett's assistant is a good coach, should coach NRL one day.

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Villi - 2 May 2019 9:55 PM
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EG
Lodge & Oates would be excellent pick ups!

And 32 others,
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The kennel have a story up
on michel lichha , saying lichaa family members
ripping into the bulldogs on facebook page apprently
deano has dropped him so it says for  Napa


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tony v_2 - 3 May 2019 2:47 AM
The kennel have a story up
on michel lichha , saying lichaa family members
ripping into the bulldogs on facebook page apprently
deano has dropped him so it says for  Napa


Likely he has been dropped, needs to fix his game in reserve grade.
The family should accept the fact that he currently isn't up to NRL standard.
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Likely he has been dropped, needs to fix his game in reserve grade.
The family should accept the fact that he currently isn't up to NRL standard.

Hope he likes England....
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What’s wrong with him?

Didnt Lichaa have some family member do the same thing under Des when he was last off contract?

Sh1t happens..... move on Lichaa, unfortunately it hasn’t worked out between the Club & the player. 

He he should be thanking the club that gave him another 2yrs when no other club wanted him....
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Villi - 3 May 2019 7:18 AM
What’s wrong with him?

Didnt Lichaa have some family member do the same thing under Des when he was last off contract?

Sh1t happens..... move on Lichaa, unfortunately it hasn’t worked out between the Club & the player. 

He he should be thanking the club that gave him another 2yrs when no other club wanted him....

Why does every body have to be (still be) so fucking unkind?? Am I allowed to say that??

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Steveswr1 - 3 May 2019 8:58 AM
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Why does every body have to be (still be) so fucking unkind?? Am I allowed to say that??


10 in the bin Steve....

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Villi - 3 May 2019 9:42 AM
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10 in the bin Steve....

Villi I am not as nutty as you think...it is pretty apparent that Michael Lichaa is not going to be a main player going forward and that has been said any number of times. But why not leave it at that. Gnu Brown is in the team this week...see how he goes. I would think that means Foran is going to play and he will be a backup for backs and forwards. But in accepting that Lichaa is not going to be part of the team why does he have to be the subject of every second post...we didn't miss the point in the 10,001 other posts. Okay he hasn't shown the graduation to first grade based on the promise of lower grades...but bashing anyone when they are down is not the best look

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Steveswr1 - 3 May 2019 9:56 AM
Villi - 3 May 2019 9:42 AM

Villi I am not as nutty as you think...it is pretty apparent that Michael Lichaa is not going to be a main player going forward and that has been said any number of times. But why not leave it at that. Gnu Brown is in the team this week...see how he goes. I would think that means Foran is going to play and he will be a backup for backs and forwards. But in accepting that Lichaa is not going to be part of the team why does he have to be the subject of every second post...we didn't miss the point in the 10,001 other posts. Okay he hasn't shown the graduation to first grade based on the promise of lower grades...but bashing anyone when they are down is not the best look

Well said..

A stint in the lower grades may sort his game, or he may do better at another club...

When elite sportsman touted in some quarters as the next big thing, it is quite a setback losing confidence, being dropped and dream of a sporting career seem to evaporate.

We can't play him in the NRL if he isn't up to the required standard, no need to kick the guy when he is down.

His family should drop the subject, do his talking on the field. 

Plenty of players have been dropped, and needed to prove the coach wrong. The ball is always in the players court, either here, or at the next club.
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Lynn anderson has stated that des hasler
is welcomed anytime 2 visit the family club 
& with no regrets , she also saying he got u2 to grandfinals BUT she didnt say we got smashed 
in booth , oh dear not a good look saying that
lynn , i for 1 not happy with no money in our cap
& you did say till 2021 wen we can get cap space back & you want 2 welcome that bogan back prfff
no futher comment case close



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tony v_2 - 3 May 2019 10:23 AM
Lynn anderson has stated that des hasler
is welcomed anytime 2 visit the family club 
& with no regrets , she also saying he got u2 to grandfinals BUT she didnt say we got smashed 
in booth , oh dear not a good look saying that
lynn , i for 1 not happy with no money in our cap
& you did say till 2021 wen we can get cap space back & you want 2 welcome that bogan back prfff
no futher comment case close



Des wasn't the bloke who signed the cheques ...the fault was Dib's and the kiwi bint. Okay he probably didn't help but again flogging a dead horse. He was not the one who fekked up the salary cap. That was a boardroom stuffup and the board room was adjusted accordingly.

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Des wasn't the bloke who signed the cheques ...the fault was Dib's and the kiwi bint. Okay he probably didn't help but again flogging a dead horse. He was not the one who fekked up the salary cap. That was a boardroom stuffup and the board room was adjusted accordingly.

And not defending Des here but stating the overlooked obvious...in 2012 the number of errors we made in the first half was the reason we lost. Go back and watch it. Melbourne took every opportunity.  In 2014 we didn't have Ennis and it was a Souths wankfest and the scores were level at the 60 minute mark.

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And not defending Des here but stating the overlooked obvious...in 2012 the number of errors we made in the first half was the reason we lost. Go back and watch it. Melbourne took every opportunity.  In 2014 we didn't have Ennis and it was a Souths wankfest and the scores were level at the 60 minute mark.

Yep in 2014 we were the support act,,,, 2012 was an opportunity missed.

What Lynne said about Des is spot on IMO, he was under too much pressure to get results and given a free hand, he took short-cuts and kicked the can down the road.
Given the opportunity, most coaches do that, wins count, failure is usually someone else's problem.

If should have been apparent to the board after 1-2 seasons that the squad was not improving and Des was making some diabolical recruitment and retention decisions.....
I think Des thought he was getting it right, but the results don't lie..

Des also lost the plot in the style of  football he had us playing 2015-2017 again that is something many coaches do, they can be stubborn, especially when under pressure.
Not much the board can do about that, other than change coach,,,,, perhaps that should have happened 1 year earlier, but overall Des had an OK record at our club.  

Anyway it is ancient history now...
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Steveswr1 - 3 May 2019 8:58 AM
Villi - 3 May 2019 7:18 AM

Why does every body have to be (still be) so fucking unkind?? Am I allowed to say that??

Steve is either related to him or is his agent.
There is no other explanation...
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Marki - 3 May 2019 12:29 PM
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Steve is either related to him or is his agent.
There is no other explanation...

He better be careful Marki...you might call him the s words

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Steveswr1 - 3 May 2019 9:56 AM
Villi - 3 May 2019 9:42 AM

Villi I am not as nutty as you think...it is pretty apparent that Michael Lichaa is not going to be a main player going forward and that has been said any number of times. But why not leave it at that. Gnu Brown is in the team this week...see how he goes. I would think that means Foran is going to play and he will be a backup for backs and forwards. But in accepting that Lichaa is not going to be part of the team why does he have to be the subject of every second post...we didn't miss the point in the 10,001 other posts. Okay he hasn't shown the graduation to first grade based on the promise of lower grades...but bashing anyone when they are down is not the best look

Who says he is down?
The form he is displaying is exactly what we have seen in the last 4 or 5 years. There has been no improvement. 

He is now dropped because Pay has decided there is no point flogging a dead horse. He in fact you thank Pay who threw him a lifeline as even Des looked like he had enough of him in 2017.


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tony v_2 - 3 May 2019 10:23 AM

Des wasn't the bloke who signed the cheques ...the fault was Dib's and the kiwi bint. Okay he probably didn't help but again flogging a dead horse. He was not the one who fekked up the salary cap. That was a boardroom stuffup and the board room was adjusted accordingly.

I wouldnt consider him off the hook that easy....
Yes he didnt sign cheques but I would be extremely surprised (and concerned) if there is a first grade coach who isnt aware if the cap situation to within 95%. When they say they dont it actually means they know 100%.

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Steveswr1 - 3 May 2019 9:56 AM

Who says he is down?
The form he is displaying is exactly what we have seen in the last 4 or 5 years. There has been no improvement. 

He is now dropped because Pay has decided there is no point flogging a dead horse. He in fact you thank Pay who threw him a lifeline as even Des looked like he had enough of him in 2017.


Everybody knows that...why flog a dead horse

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Steveswr1 - 3 May 2019 12:32 PM
Marki - 3 May 2019 12:29 PM

He better be careful Marki...you might call him the s words

He is a POLA.
Player Of Limited Ability.
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Steveswr1 - 3 May 2019 1:18 PM
Marki - 3 May 2019 1:14 PM

Everybody knows that...why flog a dead horse

No one is flogging anyone for it.
We are just defending Pay on his decision to do so, following an outcry from his family on social media.

Why should Pay be the victim here?
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Marki - 3 May 2019 1:23 PM
Steveswr1 - 3 May 2019 1:18 PM

No one is flogging anyone for it.
We are just defending Pay on his decision to do so, following an outcry from his family on social media.

Why should Pay be the victim here?

So to paraphrase myself...it has all been said and anyone who wants to jump in and say it again is probably a complete halfwit.....NOT ONCE BUT TWICE. I rest my case

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If foran & napa do play
we would be @ fullstrengh
no excuses 
manly have out

t troviavich, dylan walker, 
j tofua, d c evens,
& i expect nothing but a win
& take the 2 points & get of the
bottem of the nrl ladder


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tony v_2 - 3 May 2019 3:00 PM
If foran & napa do play
we would be @ fullstrengh
no excuses 
manly have out

t troviavich, dylan walker, 
j tofua, d c evens,
& i expect nothing but a win
& take the 2 points & get of the
bottem of the nrl ladder


True but how many times did we play Newcastle and say similar...no Gidleys etc and end up on the wrong end. Robbie Rocho would look like the best player ever. But there is the added incentive of playing the ex coach. Win lose or draw I just hope no more injuries on the treacherous Brookvale surface

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Marki - 3 May 2019 1:17 PM
Steveswr1 - 3 May 2019 10:35 AM

I wouldnt consider him off the hook that easy....
Yes he didnt sign cheques but I would be extremely surprised (and concerned) if there is a first grade coach who isnt aware if the cap situation to within 95%. When they say they dont it actually means they know 100%.

You're totally missing the point... Its nothing to do with whether des knew the cap situation... Its about corporate governance... Its completely about who signed the cheques whether des suggested the signings or not... In simple terms, you dont allow the lunatics, or mad scientists to run the Looney bin...
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Steveswr1 - 3 May 2019 1:18 PM
Marki - 3 May 2019 1:14 PM

Everybody knows that...why flog a dead horse

Because we can... Just like you can defend him every time we, he, they do flog it...
Suggesting people shouldn't have a crack at him, or suggesting you shouldn't jump to his defence every time a comment is made would be akin to censorship... And thats not what a debate page is about...
I defended dutchy and des, still do on occasion, but never questioned someone's right to have a crack... Simply tried to present a different POV, or debated theirs...
I reckon DD would say something along the line of "if you don't like it scroll past it"...



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tony v_2 - 3 May 2019 3:00 PM

True but how many times did we play Newcastle and say similar...no Gidleys etc and end up on the wrong end. Robbie Rocho would look like the best player ever. But there is the added incentive of playing the ex coach. Win lose or draw I just hope no more injuries on the treacherous Brookvale surface

Yep, what's that saying about 'beware the wounded something or other"???...
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