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libel - 4 Aug 2019 9:40 AM
LOL, yeah getting their excuses in early i see

Oh, and consultants...

Say the line libel 




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LOL, yeah getting their excuses in early i see

Oh, and consultants...
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Blew.2 - 3 Aug 2019 10:32 AM
What have we missed

"In the A-League it's all quiet with the Head of A-League Greg O'Rourke and his staff now reporting to the A-League clubs and not FFA, while fans wait - still - for the 2019-20 fixture list".
Football Today understands that, just as when a government changes hands and points the finger of blame on the prevailing budgetary situation at their predecessors, the A-League clubs have taken over to find that the underlying financial position is 'worse' than they were led to believe. City Football Group 'consultants' are running the ruler over simply everything and are the chief source of advice and recommendations to the now independent A-League clubs. Let's hope CFG's consultants understand the Australian football environment a little better than Melbourne City has to date demonstrated. However, in their defence, CFG would claim that commercial self-determination will make the difference. Sauce

I mean, blind Freddy could see that things were bad - up to the clubs to polish it into something sustainable now.
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What have we missed

"In the A-League it's all quiet with the Head of A-League Greg O'Rourke and his staff now reporting to the A-League clubs and not FFA, while fans wait - still - for the 2019-20 fixture list".
Football Today understands that, just as when a government changes hands and points the finger of blame on the prevailing budgetary situation at their predecessors, the A-League clubs have taken over to find that the underlying financial position is 'worse' than they were led to believe. City Football Group 'consultants' are running the ruler over simply everything and are the chief source of advice and recommendations to the now independent A-League clubs. Let's hope CFG's consultants understand the Australian football environment a little better than Melbourne City has to date demonstrated. However, in their defence, CFG would claim that commercial self-determination will make the difference. Sauce


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saweston - 2 Aug 2019 2:25 PM
scott20won - 1 Aug 2019 3:39 PM

Still nothing... no mention of this anywhere which is strange. I would think officially signing off on a-league independence would be big news, particularly for the usual suspects such as Vince Rugari. Could they still be ironing out the final details? They did have a meeting with Fox recently, I wonder if that has anything to do with it (the inactivity)?   

Nothing on their official site

Last statement was 1 July

“...FFA will retain a 20%, non-diluting and non-voting, ‘carry’ equity share in the League. Importantly, if a portion of the Leagues are ever sold in order to generate investment funds for further growth of the League then 20% of those proceeds would be allocated to FFA for investment in accordance with FFA’s objects.”

https://apfca.com.au/new-leagues-working-group-nlwg-reaches-in-principle-agreement-on-recommendations-for-a-new-era-for-football-in-australia/



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saweston - 2 Aug 2019 2:25 PM
Still nothing... no mention of this anywhere which is strange. I would think officially signing off on a-league independence would be big news, particularly for the usual suspects such as Vince Rugari. Could they still be ironing out the final details? They did have a meeting with Fox recently, I wonder if that has anything to do with it (the inactivity)?   

well they are probably busy re-working the fixture and working through a deal with ch 10. but alternately, they did say Aug 1. 
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scott20won - 1 Aug 2019 3:39 PM
Feed_The_Brox - 1 Aug 2019 10:48 AM

Would be a breath of fresh air if they just released a written statement.

Australian sport is so over the top with the pageantry about every single trivial (and big) thing.

Low key please.



Still nothing... no mention of this anywhere which is strange. I would think officially signing off on a-league independence would be big news, particularly for the usual suspects such as Vince Rugari. Could they still be ironing out the final details? They did have a meeting with Fox recently, I wonder if that has anything to do with it (the inactivity)?   
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Feed_The_Brox - 1 Aug 2019 10:48 AM
should we be expecting an announcement today (or in the coming days) re the indepenant HAL? I assume there will be a commission-type setup to represent the interests of the HAL and the clubs with Greg O’Rourke as the head? 

Would be a breath of fresh air if they just released a written statement.

Australian sport is so over the top with the pageantry about every single trivial (and big) thing.

Low key please.



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should we be expecting an announcement today (or in the coming days) re the indepenant HAL? I assume there will be a commission-type setup to represent the interests of the HAL and the clubs with Greg O’Rourke as the head? 

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Melbcityguy - 31 Jul 2019 3:56 PM
Waz - 31 Jul 2019 3:50 PM

i'm not on the twitter but sounds exactly like what happened to that poor bloke in sydney who got kicked out of the sydney/victory match 

They are not shy at pushing back lol 
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Waz - 31 Jul 2019 3:50 PM
Melbcityguy - 31 Jul 2019 3:14 PM

Go and taunt FFA board members on twitter and I guarantee a news release will appear hours later followed my merciless pounding of your original tweet by said Board members. It’s a thing. 

i'm not on the twitter but sounds exactly like what happened to that poor bloke in sydney who got kicked out of the sydney/victory match 
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Melbcityguy - 31 Jul 2019 3:14 PM
(coughs) umm this is happening tomorrow any news? 

Go and taunt FFA board members on twitter and I guarantee a news release will appear hours later followed my merciless pounding of your original tweet by said Board members. It’s a thing. 
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Melbcityguy - 31 Jul 2019 3:14 PM
(coughs) umm this is happening tomorrow any news? 

Dam jinx 

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(coughs) umm this is happening tomorrow any news? 
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libel - 26 Jul 2019 10:16 AM
CHEP - 26 Jul 2019 8:42 AM

The only logistics the owners care about is how to move money from SE Asia to their bank accounts.

So true mate. Nuvo new dawn. New Ffa. Lowy would have done better. Etc etc etc. well said. 
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nomates - 26 Jul 2019 10:06 AM
CHEP - 26 Jul 2019 8:42 AM

That's why Super Rugby's next tv deal will be close to $100m a year next year. The money is in Asia and the HAL needs to get some asap.

What on earth are you on about? NZ and RSA are the only 2 countries that care about Super Rugby, and even they are caring less. The Japanese team has been kicked out after being a total disaster so there goes any Asian money for the Super Rugby deal
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CHEP - 26 Jul 2019 8:42 AM
The super rugby competition is one of the things contributing to Rugby Unions demise in Australia. A domestic competition played across 4 continents is absolutely stupid. Should be a lesson to the A-League as to why we shouldn’t even think about expanding into Asia, Australia is already big and hard enough to try and get around. It would be a logistical nightmare.

The only logistics the owners care about is how to move money from SE Asia to their bank accounts.
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CHEP - 26 Jul 2019 8:42 AM
The super rugby competition is one of the things contributing to Rugby Unions demise in Australia. A domestic competition played across 4 continents is absolutely stupid. Should be a lesson to the A-League as to why we shouldn’t even think about expanding into Asia, Australia is already big and hard enough to try and get around. It would be a logistical nightmare.

That's why Super Rugby's next tv deal will be close to $100m a year next year. The money is in Asia and the HAL needs to get some asap.


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Feed_The_Brox - 26 Jul 2019 9:37 AM
Waz - 26 Jul 2019 9:25 AM

another reason for #NixOut ;)

They’ll be tolerated until NZ has a pro-League I recon. 
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Australian sports admin are so fucking clueless we really need FIFA to take control of our game like they did a while back

Maybe instead of spending hundreds of millions on building tiny stadiums we can actually use that money to buy players and be competitive in an open market

If they want to give up on the Australian market and move to Asia, then they can go overseas and manage an Asian league




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Waz - 26 Jul 2019 9:25 AM
Barca4Life - 26 Jul 2019 9:22 AM

They would. And UEFA are holding back the formation of a European super league and they would not want some third world football country like Australia setting a precedent 

another reason for #NixOut ;)
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The European Super League makes more sense than an Australian/Asian league, at least with the Euro league, all the main countries are no greater than the size of WA

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Barca4Life - 26 Jul 2019 9:22 AM
Surely the AFC would put an end to this silly idea before it begins?

They would. And UEFA are holding back the formation of a European super league and they would not want some third world football country like Australia setting a precedent 
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Surely the AFC would put an end to this silly idea before it begins?
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The super rugby competition is one of the things contributing to Rugby Unions demise in Australia. A domestic competition played across 4 continents is absolutely stupid. Should be a lesson to the A-League as to why we shouldn’t even think about expanding into Asia, Australia is already big and hard enough to try and get around. It would be a logistical nightmare.
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scott20won - 26 Jul 2019 4:47 AM

Australische A-League zoekt uitbreiding in Azië

Nu in de eigen competitie de toeschouwersaantallen zakken, willen de Australische profclubs het over een andere boeg gooien. Ze nemen de A-League in eigen handen en willen die openstellen voor buitenlandse clubs.

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“Australian A-League is looking for expansion in Asia

Now that the number of spectators is falling in their own league, the Australian professional clubs want to take a different approach. They take the A-League into their own hands and want to open it up to foreign clubs.”
https://sportmagazine.knack.be/sport/magazine/australische-a-league-zoekt-uitbreiding-in-azie/article-normal-1489907.html


 


Yep its just a matter of time before they head overseas for financial gain, HAL will deff have a Asian club in the comp cum 2022.  


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Australische A-League zoekt uitbreiding in Azië

Nu in de eigen competitie de toeschouwersaantallen zakken, willen de Australische profclubs het over een andere boeg gooien. Ze nemen de A-League in eigen handen en willen die openstellen voor buitenlandse clubs.

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“Australian A-League is looking for expansion in Asia

Now that the number of spectators is falling in their own league, the Australian professional clubs want to take a different approach. They take the A-League into their own hands and want to open it up to foreign clubs.”
https://sportmagazine.knack.be/sport/magazine/australische-a-league-zoekt-uitbreiding-in-azie/article-normal-1489907.html


 


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Burztur - 15 Jul 2019 1:55 PM
RyanM - 15 Jul 2019 12:37 PM

Geographic. Put it another way, if we were to limit the HAL to 10 teams now and the 10th spot is either the Nix or a Singaporean club, I think the Singaporean club would win financially.

That's probably true to some extent, being in the heart of Asia helps with sponsors and investors. But the independent HAL makes the argument redundant as we don't know just how financially better off the clubs are going to be in the coming years.     


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RyanM - 15 Jul 2019 12:37 PM
Burztur - 15 Jul 2019 11:38 AM

Why? They'll only do it if it makes sense financially and there asset that the Nix own shares in will grow as will profits

Geographic. Put it another way, if we were to limit the HAL to 10 teams now and the 10th spot is either the Nix or a Singaporean club, I think the Singaporean club would win financially.
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Burztur - 15 Jul 2019 11:38 AM
nomates - 14 Jul 2019 8:42 AM

If we were to ever expand into Asia, I see that as bad news for the Nix.

Why? They'll only do it if it makes sense financially and there asset that the Nix own shares in will grow as will profits

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