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+x+x+x+x+xCA has named a 14-player Australia Under 19s squad for a four-match tour of Sri Lanka in January.. The squad, named following the 2018-19 CA Under 19 National Championships in Adelaide, will arrive in Colombo on 30 December to play three one-day matches and one three-day match against Sri Lanka Under 19s.
Included in the squad are the quartet of Will Sutherland, Zac Evans, Jarrod Freeman and Bazter Holt who all represented Australia at the Under 19 World Cup in New Zealand earlier this year and will enter the tour fresh from strong performances at the recently completed U19 National Championships in Adelaide. Holt scored an impressive 333 runs @55 during the Championships, Sutherland made 299 runs at @43, while Evans claimed 13 wickets @16.Also included in the squad is emerging batsman Oliver Davies. Jake Williams (TAS) 348 @58, Connor Smith (WA) 320 @53, Blake Nikitaris (ACT) 322 @42 can all count themselves unlucky. The Australian 2019 U19 Tour of Sri Lanka. Three ODIs at P Sara Oval, Colombo plus three-day fixture at the SSC Ground in Colombo from January 1- 12. Australia Under 19 Squad: Iain Carlisle NSW) Oliver Davies (NSW) Zak Evans (VIC) Sam Fanning (NSW) Jarrod Freeman (TAS) Lachlan Hearne (NSW) Baxter Holt (NSW) Corey Hunter (QLD) Josh Kann (QLD) Liam Marshall (NSW) Keegan Oates (TAS) Tanveer Sangha (NSW) Will Sutherland (VIC) Matthew Willans - (QLD) Coach: Ryan Harris. Assistant Coach: Wade Townsend I can see Mike raising hell over the large contingent of NSW players. As I have repeatedly said Mike.. NSW has dominated our junior national champs for decades.. No different this year with NSW Country winning the event and NSW Metro runners up. So it makes sense for NSW players to dominate our National Touring squad to Sri Lanka. Baggers do you actually follow cricket? U19 GF was ACT/NSW country against Qld when they played a T20 instead of the ODI. Normally the loser of the GF is the "runner up" so that would make it Qld not NSW metro. But I may be wrong they may do things differently south of the border. Remind me again how many Sheffield shields has NSW won in the last 20 years 4 wasn't it, How many for Qld and the Vic's? 6 each. How many times has NSW played in the final in the last 20 years 6 wasn't it. 13 times for QLD. With such a dominance in U19 selection you would think NSW has a massive playing pool to chose from and should be dominating sheffield shield. I followed it. Who started the thread? NSW Metro led the tournament until the semi. then drew with SA. They won the Shield in 2014, 2015 not sure of the rest. Not easy to find its history online. Can't find the winners of sheffield shield Baggers? Heard of Wikipedia? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheffield_ShieldYou obviously didn't try too hard. Try this one as well Baggers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_South_Wales_selection_biasIt in the world wide encyclopedia that only really publishes factual things.
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So MikeR and Baggers, how long have you 2 been married?
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+xSo MikeR and Baggers, how long have you 2 been married? We are just dating :P
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xCA has named a 14-player Australia Under 19s squad for a four-match tour of Sri Lanka in January.. The squad, named following the 2018-19 CA Under 19 National Championships in Adelaide, will arrive in Colombo on 30 December to play three one-day matches and one three-day match against Sri Lanka Under 19s.
Included in the squad are the quartet of Will Sutherland, Zac Evans, Jarrod Freeman and Bazter Holt who all represented Australia at the Under 19 World Cup in New Zealand earlier this year and will enter the tour fresh from strong performances at the recently completed U19 National Championships in Adelaide. Holt scored an impressive 333 runs @55 during the Championships, Sutherland made 299 runs at @43, while Evans claimed 13 wickets @16.Also included in the squad is emerging batsman Oliver Davies. Jake Williams (TAS) 348 @58, Connor Smith (WA) 320 @53, Blake Nikitaris (ACT) 322 @42 can all count themselves unlucky. The Australian 2019 U19 Tour of Sri Lanka. Three ODIs at P Sara Oval, Colombo plus three-day fixture at the SSC Ground in Colombo from January 1- 12. Australia Under 19 Squad: Iain Carlisle NSW) Oliver Davies (NSW) Zak Evans (VIC) Sam Fanning (NSW) Jarrod Freeman (TAS) Lachlan Hearne (NSW) Baxter Holt (NSW) Corey Hunter (QLD) Josh Kann (QLD) Liam Marshall (NSW) Keegan Oates (TAS) Tanveer Sangha (NSW) Will Sutherland (VIC) Matthew Willans - (QLD) Coach: Ryan Harris. Assistant Coach: Wade Townsend I can see Mike raising hell over the large contingent of NSW players. As I have repeatedly said Mike.. NSW has dominated our junior national champs for decades.. No different this year with NSW Country winning the event and NSW Metro runners up. So it makes sense for NSW players to dominate our National Touring squad to Sri Lanka. Baggers do you actually follow cricket? U19 GF was ACT/NSW country against Qld when they played a T20 instead of the ODI. Normally the loser of the GF is the "runner up" so that would make it Qld not NSW metro. But I may be wrong they may do things differently south of the border. Remind me again how many Sheffield shields has NSW won in the last 20 years 4 wasn't it, How many for Qld and the Vic's? 6 each. How many times has NSW played in the final in the last 20 years 6 wasn't it. 13 times for QLD. With such a dominance in U19 selection you would think NSW has a massive playing pool to chose from and should be dominating sheffield shield. I followed it. Who started the thread? NSW Metro led the tournament until the semi. then drew with SA. They won the Shield in 2014, 2015 not sure of the rest. Not easy to find its history online. Can't find the winners of sheffield shield Baggers? Heard of Wikipedia? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheffield_ShieldYou obviously didn't try too hard. Try this one as well Baggers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_South_Wales_selection_biasIt in the world wide encyclopedia that only really publishes factual things. My bible is always Cricinfo. You misunderstand Mike. Trying to find results of Kookaburra Shield not S Shield.
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I vacillated about starting a separate thread on this topic, but I don't think any of Smith, Warner or Bancroft should ever be captain or vice captain again under any circumstances. They brought the game into disrepute.
I come from a small place. I know on good authority from a senior Shield colleague of Paine's that he was in utter disbelief when he found out that what those three had done with the ball tampering incident in SA. h ecoul don twelve that had dome it. He had no idea beforehand and was totally shocked.
I'm even uneasy about them being selected again. ATM Paine and Langer are constantly in conversation all the time discussing tactics. They lead the team. I'd not want to see any pernicious and destabilising influences return.
If they are selected again, they need the riot read to them to shut up and keep their heads down.
Smith's body language was atrocious as captain, always looking frustrated with his teammates. He was too young and too immature for the captaincy.
Apart from Paine, Lyon, Hazlewood and Starc, nobody else is really established in the team, apart from arguably Usman. Cummins has faded from even a year ago and isn't the bowler he was.
As long as Paine's form holds out he should be captain for mine. I am biased as he was a student in a school I taught at. I bowled to him in the playground. I think he looks like the best in the role since Mark Taylor.
Ponting and Clarke exploded publicly at times - a bad look for a captain. Waugh didn't have the respect of some teammates. Some considered him selfish and not supporting them in times of difficulty.
Taylor was a revered figure.
Langer cleaned out West Aussie cricket. He suspended Tom Triffet, the Tassie recruited wicketkeeper, who was caught breaking and entering on a WA tour with a teammate. Langer also suspended both Marshes for inappropriate behaviour. He came down on them like a ton of bricks!
ATM our batting is abysmal, but if Renshaw can regain the the form he had, it will start to look brighter. We need a string team ethos ATM - not one prone to cheating.
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+xI vacillated about starting a separate thread on this topic, but I don't think any of Smith, Warner or Bancroft should ever be captain or vice captain again under any circumstances. They brought the game into disrepute. I come from a small place. I know on good authority from a senior Shield colleague of Paine's that he was in utter disbelief when he found out that what those three had done with the ball tampering incident in SA. h ecoul don twelve that had dome it. He had no idea beforehand and was totally shocked. I'm even uneasy about them being selected again. ATM Paine and Langer are constantly in conversation all the time discussing tactics. They lead the team. I'd not want to see any pernicious and destabilising influences return. If they are selected again, they need the riot read to them to shut up and keep their heads down. Smith's body language was atrocious as captain, always looking frustrated with his teammates. He was too young and too immature for the captaincy. Apart from Paine, Lyon, Hazlewood and Starc, nobody else is really established in the team, apart from arguably Usman. Cummins has faded from even a year ago and isn't the bowler he was. As long as Paine's form holds out he should be captain for mine. I am biased as he was a student in a school I taught at. I bowled to him in the playground. I think he looks like the best in the role since Mark Taylor. Ponting and Clarke exploded publicly at times - a bad look for a captain. Waugh didn't have the respect of some teammates. Some considered him selfish and not supporting them in times of difficulty. Taylor was a revered figure. Langer cleaned out West Aussie cricket. He suspended Tom Triffet, the Tassie recruited wicketkeeper, who was caught breaking and entering on a WA tour with a teammate. Langer also suspended both Marshes for inappropriate behaviour. He came down on them like a ton of bricks! ATM our batting is abysmal, but if Renshaw can regain the the form he had, it will start to look brighter. We need a string team ethos ATM - not one prone to cheating. I don't think Warner is in any danger of ever getting a captaincy position again... Smudger is a lot younger than Paine... so I would not rule him out entirely in the future... Paine is 34 - 3 seasons max after this one left - more likely 2. And Smudger is ineligible for a year after return anyway... Warner and Smith are going to be crowd sledged endlessly for a while (in England all tour for sure), so they may not find it easy going for a while. I am not entirely convinced that Warner will even win over the Aus public again, who for years went into bat for him, just because of the CA team... who feel let down. They would rather he had punched de Kock than sandpaper the ball through Bancroft as reported... He has learnt somethi Smithy - he was weak to Warner. He will regret it immensely. But - if he makes runs, the Aussie public will forgive him... As re his captaincy in future, he has learnt something from this that none of all those runs could ever teach him....
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+x+xI vacillated about starting a separate thread on this topic, but I don't think any of Smith, Warner or Bancroft should ever be captain or vice captain again under any circumstances. They brought the game into disrepute. I come from a small place. I know on good authority from a senior Shield colleague of Paine's that he was in utter disbelief when he found out that what those three had done with the ball tampering incident in SA. h ecoul don twelve that had dome it. He had no idea beforehand and was totally shocked. I'm even uneasy about them being selected again. ATM Paine and Langer are constantly in conversation all the time discussing tactics. They lead the team. I'd not want to see any pernicious and destabilising influences return. If they are selected again, they need the riot read to them to shut up and keep their heads down. Smith's body language was atrocious as captain, always looking frustrated with his teammates. He was too young and too immature for the captaincy. Apart from Paine, Lyon, Hazlewood and Starc, nobody else is really established in the team, apart from arguably Usman. Cummins has faded from even a year ago and isn't the bowler he was. As long as Paine's form holds out he should be captain for mine. I am biased as he was a student in a school I taught at. I bowled to him in the playground. I think he looks like the best in the role since Mark Taylor. Ponting and Clarke exploded publicly at times - a bad look for a captain. Waugh didn't have the respect of some teammates. Some considered him selfish and not supporting them in times of difficulty. Taylor was a revered figure. Langer cleaned out West Aussie cricket. He suspended Tom Triffet, the Tassie recruited wicketkeeper, who was caught breaking and entering on a WA tour with a teammate. Langer also suspended both Marshes for inappropriate behaviour. He came down on them like a ton of bricks! ATM our batting is abysmal, but if Renshaw can regain the the form he had, it will start to look brighter. We need a string team ethos ATM - not one prone to cheating. I don't think Warner is in any danger of ever getting a captaincy position again... Smudger is a lot younger than Paine... so I would not rule him out entirely in the future... Paine is 34 - 3 seasons max after this one left - more likely 2. And Smudger is ineligible for a year after return anyway... Warner and Smith are going to be crowd sledged endlessly for a while (in England all tour for sure), so they may not find it easy going for a while. I am not entirely convinced that Warner will even win over the Aus public again, who for years went into bat for him, just because of the CA team... who feel let down. They would rather he had punched de Kock than sandpaper the ball through Bancroft as reported... He has learnt somethi Smithy - he was weak to Warner. He will regret it immensely. But - if he makes runs, the Aussie public will forgive him... As re his captaincy in future, he has learnt something from this that none of all those runs could ever teach him.... I think Smith's unorthodox technique could fail completely when he loses a fraction of his hand eye. I'm loathe to do this predicting an early career fade out, but former Shield cricketers I know think Smith will fade early in his career.
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+xSo MikeR and Baggers, how long have you 2 been married? Baggers and Mike R politely disagree on a lot!
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+x+x+xI vacillated about starting a separate thread on this topic, but I don't think any of Smith, Warner or Bancroft should ever be captain or vice captain again under any circumstances. They brought the game into disrepute. I come from a small place. I know on good authority from a senior Shield colleague of Paine's that he was in utter disbelief when he found out that what those three had done with the ball tampering incident in SA. h ecoul don twelve that had dome it. He had no idea beforehand and was totally shocked. I'm even uneasy about them being selected again. ATM Paine and Langer are constantly in conversation all the time discussing tactics. They lead the team. I'd not want to see any pernicious and destabilising influences return. If they are selected again, they need the riot read to them to shut up and keep their heads down. Smith's body language was atrocious as captain, always looking frustrated with his teammates. He was too young and too immature for the captaincy. Apart from Paine, Lyon, Hazlewood and Starc, nobody else is really established in the team, apart from arguably Usman. Cummins has faded from even a year ago and isn't the bowler he was. As long as Paine's form holds out he should be captain for mine. I am biased as he was a student in a school I taught at. I bowled to him in the playground. I think he looks like the best in the role since Mark Taylor. Ponting and Clarke exploded publicly at times - a bad look for a captain. Waugh didn't have the respect of some teammates. Some considered him selfish and not supporting them in times of difficulty. Taylor was a revered figure. Langer cleaned out West Aussie cricket. He suspended Tom Triffet, the Tassie recruited wicketkeeper, who was caught breaking and entering on a WA tour with a teammate. Langer also suspended both Marshes for inappropriate behaviour. He came down on them like a ton of bricks! ATM our batting is abysmal, but if Renshaw can regain the the form he had, it will start to look brighter. We need a string team ethos ATM - not one prone to cheating. I don't think Warner is in any danger of ever getting a captaincy position again... Smudger is a lot younger than Paine... so I would not rule him out entirely in the future... Paine is 34 - 3 seasons max after this one left - more likely 2. And Smudger is ineligible for a year after return anyway... Warner and Smith are going to be crowd sledged endlessly for a while (in England all tour for sure), so they may not find it easy going for a while. I am not entirely convinced that Warner will even win over the Aus public again, who for years went into bat for him, just because of the CA team... who feel let down. They would rather he had punched de Kock than sandpaper the ball through Bancroft as reported... He has learnt somethi Smithy - he was weak to Warner. He will regret it immensely. But - if he makes runs, the Aussie public will forgive him... As re his captaincy in future, he has learnt something from this that none of all those runs could ever teach him.... I think Smith's unorthodox technique could fail completely when he loses a fraction of his hand eye. I'm loathe to do this predicting an early career fade out, but former Shield cricketers I know think Smith will fade early in his career. Yeah - Graeme Smith retired early and young with his clip in front of the stumps technique as well... But there's no saying when the hand eye goes. For Smith it was youngish into the 30's, Sehwag arguably a lil bit older - but I wouldn't even say Gayle has lost his completely yet at 39... (though the last 3 years have been less and less impressive in his t20 bashing)... I don't see Smith piling on the runs at 39 in tests (he's 29 now)... eventually he will become an lbw or bowled victim - but not until he misses the ball with the bat...
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+xI vacillated about starting a separate thread on this topic, but I don't think any of Smith, Warner or Bancroft should ever be captain or vice captain again under any circumstances. They brought the game into disrepute. I come from a small place. I know on good authority from a senior Shield colleague of Paine's that he was in utter disbelief when he found out that what those three had done with the ball tampering incident in SA. h ecoul don twelve that had dome it. He had no idea beforehand and was totally shocked. I'm even uneasy about them being selected again. ATM Paine and Langer are constantly in conversation all the time discussing tactics. They lead the team. I'd not want to see any pernicious and destabilising influences return. If they are selected again, they need the riot read to them to shut up and keep their heads down. Smith's body language was atrocious as captain, always looking frustrated with his teammates. He was too young and too immature for the captaincy. Apart from Paine, Lyon, Hazlewood and Starc, nobody else is really established in the team, apart from arguably Usman. Cummins has faded from even a year ago and isn't the bowler he was. As long as Paine's form holds out he should be captain for mine. I am biased as he was a student in a school I taught at. I bowled to him in the playground. I think he looks like the best in the role since Mark Taylor. Ponting and Clarke exploded publicly at times - a bad look for a captain. Waugh didn't have the respect of some teammates. Some considered him selfish and not supporting them in times of difficulty. Taylor was a revered figure. Langer cleaned out West Aussie cricket. He suspended Tom Triffet, the Tassie recruited wicketkeeper, who was caught breaking and entering on a WA tour with a teammate. Langer also suspended both Marshes for inappropriate behaviour. He came down on them like a ton of bricks! ATM our batting is abysmal, but if Renshaw can regain the the form he had, it will start to look brighter. We need a string team ethos ATM - not one prone to cheating. DC I wondered what happened to Triffet... a Tassie boy. How his star fell after he kept for the victorious 2010 U19 World Cup winners. While my heart agrees with you over Smith and Warner my head says at least have Smith back. Being weak was his only crime. Besides we can not afford to have a man with his incredible record, drive and mental stamina lost forever. Above all we need him in England where he has a fine record. I will keep Cummins in our attack for now. But Tremain and Pattinson will keep him honest. Paine, Hazlewood, Ussie,and Lyon are the only certs for England. Starc and Cummins have to improve on their showing in this series to get a trip. I also want Renshaw on the plane.
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+x+xI vacillated about starting a separate thread on this topic, but I don't think any of Smith, Warner or Bancroft should ever be captain or vice captain again under any circumstances. They brought the game into disrepute. I come from a small place. I know on good authority from a senior Shield colleague of Paine's that he was in utter disbelief when he found out that what those three had done with the ball tampering incident in SA. h ecoul don twelve that had dome it. He had no idea beforehand and was totally shocked. I'm even uneasy about them being selected again. ATM Paine and Langer are constantly in conversation all the time discussing tactics. They lead the team. I'd not want to see any pernicious and destabilising influences return. If they are selected again, they need the riot read to them to shut up and keep their heads down. Smith's body language was atrocious as captain, always looking frustrated with his teammates. He was too young and too immature for the captaincy. Apart from Paine, Lyon, Hazlewood and Starc, nobody else is really established in the team, apart from arguably Usman. Cummins has faded from even a year ago and isn't the bowler he was. As long as Paine's form holds out he should be captain for mine. I am biased as he was a student in a school I taught at. I bowled to him in the playground. I think he looks like the best in the role since Mark Taylor. Ponting and Clarke exploded publicly at times - a bad look for a captain. Waugh didn't have the respect of some teammates. Some considered him selfish and not supporting them in times of difficulty. Taylor was a revered figure. Langer cleaned out West Aussie cricket. He suspended Tom Triffet, the Tassie recruited wicketkeeper, who was caught breaking and entering on a WA tour with a teammate. Langer also suspended both Marshes for inappropriate behaviour. He came down on them like a ton of bricks! ATM our batting is abysmal, but if Renshaw can regain the the form he had, it will start to look brighter. We need a string team ethos ATM - not one prone to cheating. I don't think Warner is in any danger of ever getting a captaincy position again... Smudger is a lot younger than Paine... so I would not rule him out entirely in the future... Paine is 34 - 3 seasons max after this one left - more likely 2. And Smudger is ineligible for a year after return anyway... Warner and Smith are going to be crowd sledged endlessly for a while (in England all tour for sure), so they may not find it easy going for a while. I am not entirely convinced that Warner will even win over the Aus public again, who for years went into bat for him, just because of the CA team... who feel let down. They would rather he had punched de Kock than sandpaper the ball through Bancroft as reported... He has learnt somethi Smithy - he was weak to Warner. He will regret it immensely. But - if he makes runs, the Aussie public will forgive him... As re his captaincy in future, he has learnt something from this that none of all those runs could ever teach him.... Gday Paddles, I totally agree with you, Warner may even have trouble getting back into the side, Bancroft should slot in again as I do not feel there is much anger towards him from the public. Smith will return, probably better for what happened & I still think if no one else stands up he will be captain again when he is eligible
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wicet taken but the pitch has been flatter in the first session each day
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+x+x+xI vacillated about starting a separate thread on this topic, but I don't think any of Smith, Warner or Bancroft should ever be captain or vice captain again under any circumstances. They brought the game into disrepute. I come from a small place. I know on good authority from a senior Shield colleague of Paine's that he was in utter disbelief when he found out that what those three had done with the ball tampering incident in SA. h ecoul don twelve that had dome it. He had no idea beforehand and was totally shocked. I'm even uneasy about them being selected again. ATM Paine and Langer are constantly in conversation all the time discussing tactics. They lead the team. I'd not want to see any pernicious and destabilising influences return. If they are selected again, they need the riot read to them to shut up and keep their heads down. Smith's body language was atrocious as captain, always looking frustrated with his teammates. He was too young and too immature for the captaincy. Apart from Paine, Lyon, Hazlewood and Starc, nobody else is really established in the team, apart from arguably Usman. Cummins has faded from even a year ago and isn't the bowler he was. As long as Paine's form holds out he should be captain for mine. I am biased as he was a student in a school I taught at. I bowled to him in the playground. I think he looks like the best in the role since Mark Taylor. Ponting and Clarke exploded publicly at times - a bad look for a captain. Waugh didn't have the respect of some teammates. Some considered him selfish and not supporting them in times of difficulty. Taylor was a revered figure. Langer cleaned out West Aussie cricket. He suspended Tom Triffet, the Tassie recruited wicketkeeper, who was caught breaking and entering on a WA tour with a teammate. Langer also suspended both Marshes for inappropriate behaviour. He came down on them like a ton of bricks! ATM our batting is abysmal, but if Renshaw can regain the the form he had, it will start to look brighter. We need a string team ethos ATM - not one prone to cheating. I don't think Warner is in any danger of ever getting a captaincy position again... Smudger is a lot younger than Paine... so I would not rule him out entirely in the future... Paine is 34 - 3 seasons max after this one left - more likely 2. And Smudger is ineligible for a year after return anyway... Warner and Smith are going to be crowd sledged endlessly for a while (in England all tour for sure), so they may not find it easy going for a while. I am not entirely convinced that Warner will even win over the Aus public again, who for years went into bat for him, just because of the CA team... who feel let down. They would rather he had punched de Kock than sandpaper the ball through Bancroft as reported... He has learnt somethi Smithy - he was weak to Warner. He will regret it immensely. But - if he makes runs, the Aussie public will forgive him... As re his captaincy in future, he has learnt something from this that none of all those runs could ever teach him.... Gday Paddles, I totally agree with you, Warner may even have trouble getting back into the side, Bancroft should slot in again as I do not feel there is much anger towards him from the public. Smith will return, probably better for what happened & I still think if no one else stands up he will be captain again when he is eligible I can not see Bancroft coming back any time soon. He was under scrutiny before his misdemeanour for a dodgy technique. Tim deserves to have the captaincy for as long as he wants. Smith can wait. If Marsh does not cement his spot then give Smith the deputy badge.
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+x+x+x+xI vacillated about starting a separate thread on this topic, but I don't think any of Smith, Warner or Bancroft should ever be captain or vice captain again under any circumstances. They brought the game into disrepute. I come from a small place. I know on good authority from a senior Shield colleague of Paine's that he was in utter disbelief when he found out that what those three had done with the ball tampering incident in SA. h ecoul don twelve that had dome it. He had no idea beforehand and was totally shocked. I'm even uneasy about them being selected again. ATM Paine and Langer are constantly in conversation all the time discussing tactics. They lead the team. I'd not want to see any pernicious and destabilising influences return. If they are selected again, they need the riot read to them to shut up and keep their heads down. Smith's body language was atrocious as captain, always looking frustrated with his teammates. He was too young and too immature for the captaincy. Apart from Paine, Lyon, Hazlewood and Starc, nobody else is really established in the team, apart from arguably Usman. Cummins has faded from even a year ago and isn't the bowler he was. As long as Paine's form holds out he should be captain for mine. I am biased as he was a student in a school I taught at. I bowled to him in the playground. I think he looks like the best in the role since Mark Taylor. Ponting and Clarke exploded publicly at times - a bad look for a captain. Waugh didn't have the respect of some teammates. Some considered him selfish and not supporting them in times of difficulty. Taylor was a revered figure. Langer cleaned out West Aussie cricket. He suspended Tom Triffet, the Tassie recruited wicketkeeper, who was caught breaking and entering on a WA tour with a teammate. Langer also suspended both Marshes for inappropriate behaviour. He came down on them like a ton of bricks! ATM our batting is abysmal, but if Renshaw can regain the the form he had, it will start to look brighter. We need a string team ethos ATM - not one prone to cheating. I don't think Warner is in any danger of ever getting a captaincy position again... Smudger is a lot younger than Paine... so I would not rule him out entirely in the future... Paine is 34 - 3 seasons max after this one left - more likely 2. And Smudger is ineligible for a year after return anyway... Warner and Smith are going to be crowd sledged endlessly for a while (in England all tour for sure), so they may not find it easy going for a while. I am not entirely convinced that Warner will even win over the Aus public again, who for years went into bat for him, just because of the CA team... who feel let down. They would rather he had punched de Kock than sandpaper the ball through Bancroft as reported... He has learnt somethi Smithy - he was weak to Warner. He will regret it immensely. But - if he makes runs, the Aussie public will forgive him... As re his captaincy in future, he has learnt something from this that none of all those runs could ever teach him.... Gday Paddles, I totally agree with you, Warner may even have trouble getting back into the side, Bancroft should slot in again as I do not feel there is much anger towards him from the public. Smith will return, probably better for what happened & I still think if no one else stands up he will be captain again when he is eligible I can not see Bancroft coming back any time soon. He was under scrutiny before his misdemeanour for a dodgy technique. Tim deserves to have the captaincy for as long as he wants. Smith can wait. If Marsh does not cement his spot then give Smith the deputy badge. Despite my not liking any wk / captain as I have posted, Smith as VC to Paine would work. As I have posted the only way for Paine to stay captain is have an extremely good VC beside him to help out. Smith could do that & at the same time be the captain in waiting for when Paine retires. Interesting thought
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+x+xI vacillated about starting a separate thread on this topic, but I don't think any of Smith, Warner or Bancroft should ever be captain or vice captain again under any circumstances. They brought the game into disrepute. I come from a small place. I know on good authority from a senior Shield colleague of Paine's that he was in utter disbelief when he found out that what those three had done with the ball tampering incident in SA. h ecoul don twelve that had dome it. He had no idea beforehand and was totally shocked. I'm even uneasy about them being selected again. ATM Paine and Langer are constantly in conversation all the time discussing tactics. They lead the team. I'd not want to see any pernicious and destabilising influences return. If they are selected again, they need the riot read to them to shut up and keep their heads down. Smith's body language was atrocious as captain, always looking frustrated with his teammates. He was too young and too immature for the captaincy. Apart from Paine, Lyon, Hazlewood and Starc, nobody else is really established in the team, apart from arguably Usman. Cummins has faded from even a year ago and isn't the bowler he was. As long as Paine's form holds out he should be captain for mine. I am biased as he was a student in a school I taught at. I bowled to him in the playground. I think he looks like the best in the role since Mark Taylor. Ponting and Clarke exploded publicly at times - a bad look for a captain. Waugh didn't have the respect of some teammates. Some considered him selfish and not supporting them in times of difficulty. Taylor was a revered figure. Langer cleaned out West Aussie cricket. He suspended Tom Triffet, the Tassie recruited wicketkeeper, who was caught breaking and entering on a WA tour with a teammate. Langer also suspended both Marshes for inappropriate behaviour. He came down on them like a ton of bricks! ATM our batting is abysmal, but if Renshaw can regain the the form he had, it will start to look brighter. We need a string team ethos ATM - not one prone to cheating. DC I wondered what happened to Triffet... a Tassie boy. How his star fell after he kept for the victorious 2010 U19 World Cup winners. Triffet is selling real estate in Tas. He blew his chance in WA. Tas didn't want him after his crime. Tasmania has many back up keepers like McDermott, Doran and Dunk.
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+x+x+x+x+xI vacillated about starting a separate thread on this topic, but I don't think any of Smith, Warner or Bancroft should ever be captain or vice captain again under any circumstances. They brought the game into disrepute. I come from a small place. I know on good authority from a senior Shield colleague of Paine's that he was in utter disbelief when he found out that what those three had done with the ball tampering incident in SA. h ecoul don twelve that had dome it. He had no idea beforehand and was totally shocked. I'm even uneasy about them being selected again. ATM Paine and Langer are constantly in conversation all the time discussing tactics. They lead the team. I'd not want to see any pernicious and destabilising influences return. If they are selected again, they need the riot read to them to shut up and keep their heads down. Smith's body language was atrocious as captain, always looking frustrated with his teammates. He was too young and too immature for the captaincy. Apart from Paine, Lyon, Hazlewood and Starc, nobody else is really established in the team, apart from arguably Usman. Cummins has faded from even a year ago and isn't the bowler he was. As long as Paine's form holds out he should be captain for mine. I am biased as he was a student in a school I taught at. I bowled to him in the playground. I think he looks like the best in the role since Mark Taylor. Ponting and Clarke exploded publicly at times - a bad look for a captain. Waugh didn't have the respect of some teammates. Some considered him selfish and not supporting them in times of difficulty. Taylor was a revered figure. Langer cleaned out West Aussie cricket. He suspended Tom Triffet, the Tassie recruited wicketkeeper, who was caught breaking and entering on a WA tour with a teammate. Langer also suspended both Marshes for inappropriate behaviour. He came down on them like a ton of bricks! ATM our batting is abysmal, but if Renshaw can regain the the form he had, it will start to look brighter. We need a string team ethos ATM - not one prone to cheating. I don't think Warner is in any danger of ever getting a captaincy position again... Smudger is a lot younger than Paine... so I would not rule him out entirely in the future... Paine is 34 - 3 seasons max after this one left - more likely 2. And Smudger is ineligible for a year after return anyway... Warner and Smith are going to be crowd sledged endlessly for a while (in England all tour for sure), so they may not find it easy going for a while. I am not entirely convinced that Warner will even win over the Aus public again, who for years went into bat for him, just because of the CA team... who feel let down. They would rather he had punched de Kock than sandpaper the ball through Bancroft as reported... He has learnt somethi Smithy - he was weak to Warner. He will regret it immensely. But - if he makes runs, the Aussie public will forgive him... As re his captaincy in future, he has learnt something from this that none of all those runs could ever teach him.... Gday Paddles, I totally agree with you, Warner may even have trouble getting back into the side, Bancroft should slot in again as I do not feel there is much anger towards him from the public. Smith will return, probably better for what happened & I still think if no one else stands up he will be captain again when he is eligible I can not see Bancroft coming back any time soon. He was under scrutiny before his misdemeanour for a dodgy technique. Tim deserves to have the captaincy for as long as he wants. Smith can wait. If Marsh does not cement his spot then give Smith the deputy badge. Despite my not liking any wk / captain as I have posted, Smith as VC to Paine would work. As I have posted the only way for Paine to stay captain is have an extremely good VC beside him to help out. Smith could do that & at the same time be the captain in waiting for when Paine retires. Interesting thought Respectfully, disagree, JJ. Paine is captain in his own right. He spends a lot of time conferring with Langer.
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+x+x+x+xI vacillated about starting a separate thread on this topic, but I don't think any of Smith, Warner or Bancroft should ever be captain or vice captain again under any circumstances. They brought the game into disrepute. I come from a small place. I know on good authority from a senior Shield colleague of Paine's that he was in utter disbelief when he found out that what those three had done with the ball tampering incident in SA. h ecoul don twelve that had dome it. He had no idea beforehand and was totally shocked. I'm even uneasy about them being selected again. ATM Paine and Langer are constantly in conversation all the time discussing tactics. They lead the team. I'd not want to see any pernicious and destabilising influences return. If they are selected again, they need the riot read to them to shut up and keep their heads down. Smith's body language was atrocious as captain, always looking frustrated with his teammates. He was too young and too immature for the captaincy. Apart from Paine, Lyon, Hazlewood and Starc, nobody else is really established in the team, apart from arguably Usman. Cummins has faded from even a year ago and isn't the bowler he was. As long as Paine's form holds out he should be captain for mine. I am biased as he was a student in a school I taught at. I bowled to him in the playground. I think he looks like the best in the role since Mark Taylor. Ponting and Clarke exploded publicly at times - a bad look for a captain. Waugh didn't have the respect of some teammates. Some considered him selfish and not supporting them in times of difficulty. Taylor was a revered figure. Langer cleaned out West Aussie cricket. He suspended Tom Triffet, the Tassie recruited wicketkeeper, who was caught breaking and entering on a WA tour with a teammate. Langer also suspended both Marshes for inappropriate behaviour. He came down on them like a ton of bricks! ATM our batting is abysmal, but if Renshaw can regain the the form he had, it will start to look brighter. We need a string team ethos ATM - not one prone to cheating. I don't think Warner is in any danger of ever getting a captaincy position again... Smudger is a lot younger than Paine... so I would not rule him out entirely in the future... Paine is 34 - 3 seasons max after this one left - more likely 2. And Smudger is ineligible for a year after return anyway... Warner and Smith are going to be crowd sledged endlessly for a while (in England all tour for sure), so they may not find it easy going for a while. I am not entirely convinced that Warner will even win over the Aus public again, who for years went into bat for him, just because of the CA team... who feel let down. They would rather he had punched de Kock than sandpaper the ball through Bancroft as reported... He has learnt somethi Smithy - he was weak to Warner. He will regret it immensely. But - if he makes runs, the Aussie public will forgive him... As re his captaincy in future, he has learnt something from this that none of all those runs could ever teach him.... Gday Paddles, I totally agree with you, Warner may even have trouble getting back into the side, Bancroft should slot in again as I do not feel there is much anger towards him from the public. Smith will return, probably better for what happened & I still think if no one else stands up he will be captain again when he is eligible I can not see Bancroft coming back any time soon. He was under scrutiny before his misdemeanour for a dodgy technique. Tim deserves to have the captaincy for as long as he wants. Smith can wait. If Marsh does not cement his spot then give Smith the deputy badge. Agree with all this, except Smith should not be captain or VC for at least five years.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xI vacillated about starting a separate thread on this topic, but I don't think any of Smith, Warner or Bancroft should ever be captain or vice captain again under any circumstances. They brought the game into disrepute. I come from a small place. I know on good authority from a senior Shield colleague of Paine's that he was in utter disbelief when he found out that what those three had done with the ball tampering incident in SA. h ecoul don twelve that had dome it. He had no idea beforehand and was totally shocked. I'm even uneasy about them being selected again. ATM Paine and Langer are constantly in conversation all the time discussing tactics. They lead the team. I'd not want to see any pernicious and destabilising influences return. If they are selected again, they need the riot read to them to shut up and keep their heads down. Smith's body language was atrocious as captain, always looking frustrated with his teammates. He was too young and too immature for the captaincy. Apart from Paine, Lyon, Hazlewood and Starc, nobody else is really established in the team, apart from arguably Usman. Cummins has faded from even a year ago and isn't the bowler he was. As long as Paine's form holds out he should be captain for mine. I am biased as he was a student in a school I taught at. I bowled to him in the playground. I think he looks like the best in the role since Mark Taylor. Ponting and Clarke exploded publicly at times - a bad look for a captain. Waugh didn't have the respect of some teammates. Some considered him selfish and not supporting them in times of difficulty. Taylor was a revered figure. Langer cleaned out West Aussie cricket. He suspended Tom Triffet, the Tassie recruited wicketkeeper, who was caught breaking and entering on a WA tour with a teammate. Langer also suspended both Marshes for inappropriate behaviour. He came down on them like a ton of bricks! ATM our batting is abysmal, but if Renshaw can regain the the form he had, it will start to look brighter. We need a string team ethos ATM - not one prone to cheating. I don't think Warner is in any danger of ever getting a captaincy position again... Smudger is a lot younger than Paine... so I would not rule him out entirely in the future... Paine is 34 - 3 seasons max after this one left - more likely 2. And Smudger is ineligible for a year after return anyway... Warner and Smith are going to be crowd sledged endlessly for a while (in England all tour for sure), so they may not find it easy going for a while. I am not entirely convinced that Warner will even win over the Aus public again, who for years went into bat for him, just because of the CA team... who feel let down. They would rather he had punched de Kock than sandpaper the ball through Bancroft as reported... He has learnt somethi Smithy - he was weak to Warner. He will regret it immensely. But - if he makes runs, the Aussie public will forgive him... As re his captaincy in future, he has learnt something from this that none of all those runs could ever teach him.... Gday Paddles, I totally agree with you, Warner may even have trouble getting back into the side, Bancroft should slot in again as I do not feel there is much anger towards him from the public. Smith will return, probably better for what happened & I still think if no one else stands up he will be captain again when he is eligible I can not see Bancroft coming back any time soon. He was under scrutiny before his misdemeanour for a dodgy technique. Tim deserves to have the captaincy for as long as he wants. Smith can wait. If Marsh does not cement his spot then give Smith the deputy badge. Despite my not liking any wk / captain as I have posted, Smith as VC to Paine would work. As I have posted the only way for Paine to stay captain is have an extremely good VC beside him to help out. Smith could do that & at the same time be the captain in waiting for when Paine retires. Interesting thought Respectfully, disagree, JJ. Paine is captain in his own right. He spends a lot of time conferring with Langer. Problem is Langer is not on the field & who decides on last minute changes that Paine misses because he's concentrating on behind the stumps. To keep Paine as captain a really good VC is required to actively help him out - we don't have one - Too much for a WC/captain. Obviously if Smith was in the mix, would not be for a while - who is there with Marsh no guarantee to keep his spot. This is a huge weakness in the Australian side and needs rectifying.
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+x+xSo MikeR and Baggers, how long have you 2 been married? Baggers and Mike R politely disagree on a lot! Believe it or not Baggers and I agree on about 95 % of things. We disagree especially when Baggers gets emotional, when it comes to his baggy greens. But we've jousted on certain aspects for a few years now, and I am still waiting for him to win an argument, he just won't admit he has lost, and calls me bias, which he's been doing for years now. Water off the ducks back to me. But when I am bored looking for something to do, my hobby is to rile Baggers up. He's always good for a laugh. Baggers do mind if we now refer to Hazlewood as "Glow worm". Why? Paddles will understand. I did a tour of the glow worms in Te Anau NZ and I came across this. I wish I was a glow worm, A glow worm's never glum. "cos how can you be grumpy When the sun shines out your bum! Now watch Baggers go off.
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+x+x+xSo MikeR and Baggers, how long have you 2 been married? Baggers and Mike R politely disagree on a lot! Believe it or not Baggers and I agree on about 95 % of things. We disagree especially when Baggers gets emotional, when it comes to his baggy greens. But we've jousted on certain aspects for a few years now, and I am still waiting for him to win an argument, he just won't admit he has lost, and calls me bias, which he's been doing for years now. Water off the ducks back to me. But when I am bored looking for something to do, my hobby is to rile Baggers up. He's always good for a laugh. Baggers do mind if we now refer to Hazlewood as "Glow worm". Why? Paddles will understand. I did a tour of the glow worms in Te Anau NZ and I came across this. I wish I was a glow worm, A glow worm's never glum. "cos how can you be grumpy When the sun shines out your bum! Now watch Baggers go off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNC0kIzM1Fo
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI vacillated about starting a separate thread on this topic, but I don't think any of Smith, Warner or Bancroft should ever be captain or vice captain again under any circumstances. They brought the game into disrepute. I come from a small place. I know on good authority from a senior Shield colleague of Paine's that he was in utter disbelief when he found out that what those three had done with the ball tampering incident in SA. h ecoul don twelve that had dome it. He had no idea beforehand and was totally shocked. I'm even uneasy about them being selected again. ATM Paine and Langer are constantly in conversation all the time discussing tactics. They lead the team. I'd not want to see any pernicious and destabilising influences return. If they are selected again, they need the riot read to them to shut up and keep their heads down. Smith's body language was atrocious as captain, always looking frustrated with his teammates. He was too young and too immature for the captaincy. Apart from Paine, Lyon, Hazlewood and Starc, nobody else is really established in the team, apart from arguably Usman. Cummins has faded from even a year ago and isn't the bowler he was. As long as Paine's form holds out he should be captain for mine. I am biased as he was a student in a school I taught at. I bowled to him in the playground. I think he looks like the best in the role since Mark Taylor. Ponting and Clarke exploded publicly at times - a bad look for a captain. Waugh didn't have the respect of some teammates. Some considered him selfish and not supporting them in times of difficulty. Taylor was a revered figure. Langer cleaned out West Aussie cricket. He suspended Tom Triffet, the Tassie recruited wicketkeeper, who was caught breaking and entering on a WA tour with a teammate. Langer also suspended both Marshes for inappropriate behaviour. He came down on them like a ton of bricks! ATM our batting is abysmal, but if Renshaw can regain the the form he had, it will start to look brighter. We need a string team ethos ATM - not one prone to cheating. I don't think Warner is in any danger of ever getting a captaincy position again... Smudger is a lot younger than Paine... so I would not rule him out entirely in the future... Paine is 34 - 3 seasons max after this one left - more likely 2. And Smudger is ineligible for a year after return anyway... Warner and Smith are going to be crowd sledged endlessly for a while (in England all tour for sure), so they may not find it easy going for a while. I am not entirely convinced that Warner will even win over the Aus public again, who for years went into bat for him, just because of the CA team... who feel let down. They would rather he had punched de Kock than sandpaper the ball through Bancroft as reported... He has learnt somethi Smithy - he was weak to Warner. He will regret it immensely. But - if he makes runs, the Aussie public will forgive him... As re his captaincy in future, he has learnt something from this that none of all those runs could ever teach him.... Gday Paddles, I totally agree with you, Warner may even have trouble getting back into the side, Bancroft should slot in again as I do not feel there is much anger towards him from the public. Smith will return, probably better for what happened & I still think if no one else stands up he will be captain again when he is eligible I can not see Bancroft coming back any time soon. He was under scrutiny before his misdemeanour for a dodgy technique. Tim deserves to have the captaincy for as long as he wants. Smith can wait. If Marsh does not cement his spot then give Smith the deputy badge. Despite my not liking any wk / captain as I have posted, Smith as VC to Paine would work. As I have posted the only way for Paine to stay captain is have an extremely good VC beside him to help out. Smith could do that & at the same time be the captain in waiting for when Paine retires. Interesting thought Respectfully, disagree, JJ. Paine is captain in his own right. He spends a lot of time conferring with Langer. Problem is Langer is not on the field & who decides on last minute changes that Paine misses because he's concentrating on behind the stumps. To keep Paine as captain a really good VC is required to actively help him out - we don't have one - Too much for a WC/captain. Obviously if Smith was in the mix, would not be for a while - who is there with Marsh no guarantee to keep his spot. This is a huge weakness in the Australian side and needs rectifying. I think Finch has a very good cricket brain from what I hear from the LOC internationals when he has captained Aus (I don't watch any of it though). Usman is also a state captain - as is Head. He has these resources to draw on out on the field. Paine has played with George Bailey in the Shield for years - and they are very close mates. Paine has also played a lot of Shield cricket and a fair few LOC internationals. In addition, he had a very good overseas tour a few years back when he replaced Haddin as Test keeper - Pakistan? There was a school of though he should replace Haddin as Test keeper then, because he was a better gloveman and had done little wrong with the bat. Moreover, Paine was already identified as a future Australian captain even then. It just happens he was a state player with arguably the best captain in the country in George Bailey. Bailey also said he would step aside for Paine to captain Tas , if he was being groomed for the Test captaincy. Then the Aussie Test selectors selected Haddin again and Paine got injured.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI vacillated about starting a separate thread on this topic, but I don't think any of Smith, Warner or Bancroft should ever be captain or vice captain again under any circumstances. They brought the game into disrepute. I come from a small place. I know on good authority from a senior Shield colleague of Paine's that he was in utter disbelief when he found out that what those three had done with the ball tampering incident in SA. h ecoul don twelve that had dome it. He had no idea beforehand and was totally shocked. I'm even uneasy about them being selected again. ATM Paine and Langer are constantly in conversation all the time discussing tactics. They lead the team. I'd not want to see any pernicious and destabilising influences return. If they are selected again, they need the riot read to them to shut up and keep their heads down. Smith's body language was atrocious as captain, always looking frustrated with his teammates. He was too young and too immature for the captaincy. Apart from Paine, Lyon, Hazlewood and Starc, nobody else is really established in the team, apart from arguably Usman. Cummins has faded from even a year ago and isn't the bowler he was. As long as Paine's form holds out he should be captain for mine. I am biased as he was a student in a school I taught at. I bowled to him in the playground. I think he looks like the best in the role since Mark Taylor. Ponting and Clarke exploded publicly at times - a bad look for a captain. Waugh didn't have the respect of some teammates. Some considered him selfish and not supporting them in times of difficulty. Taylor was a revered figure. Langer cleaned out West Aussie cricket. He suspended Tom Triffet, the Tassie recruited wicketkeeper, who was caught breaking and entering on a WA tour with a teammate. Langer also suspended both Marshes for inappropriate behaviour. He came down on them like a ton of bricks! ATM our batting is abysmal, but if Renshaw can regain the the form he had, it will start to look brighter. We need a string team ethos ATM - not one prone to cheating. I don't think Warner is in any danger of ever getting a captaincy position again... Smudger is a lot younger than Paine... so I would not rule him out entirely in the future... Paine is 34 - 3 seasons max after this one left - more likely 2. And Smudger is ineligible for a year after return anyway... Warner and Smith are going to be crowd sledged endlessly for a while (in England all tour for sure), so they may not find it easy going for a while. I am not entirely convinced that Warner will even win over the Aus public again, who for years went into bat for him, just because of the CA team... who feel let down. They would rather he had punched de Kock than sandpaper the ball through Bancroft as reported... He has learnt somethi Smithy - he was weak to Warner. He will regret it immensely. But - if he makes runs, the Aussie public will forgive him... As re his captaincy in future, he has learnt something from this that none of all those runs could ever teach him.... Gday Paddles, I totally agree with you, Warner may even have trouble getting back into the side, Bancroft should slot in again as I do not feel there is much anger towards him from the public. Smith will return, probably better for what happened & I still think if no one else stands up he will be captain again when he is eligible I can not see Bancroft coming back any time soon. He was under scrutiny before his misdemeanour for a dodgy technique. Tim deserves to have the captaincy for as long as he wants. Smith can wait. If Marsh does not cement his spot then give Smith the deputy badge. Despite my not liking any wk / captain as I have posted, Smith as VC to Paine would work. As I have posted the only way for Paine to stay captain is have an extremely good VC beside him to help out. Smith could do that & at the same time be the captain in waiting for when Paine retires. Interesting thought Respectfully, disagree, JJ. Paine is captain in his own right. He spends a lot of time conferring with Langer. Problem is Langer is not on the field & who decides on last minute changes that Paine misses because he's concentrating on behind the stumps. To keep Paine as captain a really good VC is required to actively help him out - we don't have one - Too much for a WC/captain. Obviously if Smith was in the mix, would not be for a while - who is there with Marsh no guarantee to keep his spot. This is a huge weakness in the Australian side and needs rectifying. I think Finch has a very good cricket brain from what I hear from the LOC internationals when he has captained Aus (I don't watch any of it though). Usman is also a state captain - as is Head. He has these resources to draw on out on the field. Paine has played with George Bailey in the Shield for years - and they are very close mates. Paine has also played a lot of Shield cricket and a fair few LOC internationals. In addition, he had a very good overseas tour a few years back when he replaced Haddin as Test keeper - Pakistan? There was a school of though he should replace Haddin as Test keeper then, because he was a better gloveman and had done little wrong with the bat. Moreover, Paine was already identified as a future Australian captain even then. It just happens he was a state player with arguably the best captain in the country in George Bailey. Bailey also said he would step aside for Paine to captain Tas , if he was being groomed for the Test captaincy. Then the Aussie Test selectors selected Haddin again and Paine got injured. Gday Dc, thanks for that, as a lot of info on Paine I wasn't aware of. Part of being in the wild west and we are very parochial. I quess it comes down to a VC that can help him. My problem with Finch, is that I do not see him being in the team long term in any position as his technique has too many problems and he is also 32. Mitch Marsh & Handscomb positions are tenuous, so pending on the team selected for MCG & result of same, CA could be finally forced to face reality & make some changes, which may be the time they sort out the VC. Khawaja I put forward on a previous post, as I did not know much of his background. I now see him as a long term number 3, able to open if a quick wicket lost, can stay if required to anchor an innings and score freely when required & one of the few experienced batsmen I see keeping his place. So is he a future VC or is he too old? If Burns comes in - RH batsman, he is 29 but again I do not know much of his background. Our list does not seem to have an up & coming player to be VC and groomed for a future captain.
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+x+x+xSo MikeR and Baggers, how long have you 2 been married? Baggers and Mike R politely disagree on a lot! Believe it or not Baggers and I agree on about 95 % of things. We disagree especially when Baggers gets emotional, when it comes to his baggy greens. But we've jousted on certain aspects for a few years now, and I am still waiting for him to win an argument, he just won't admit he has lost, and calls me bias, which he's been doing for years now. Water off the ducks back to me. But when I am bored looking for something to do, my hobby is to rile Baggers up. He's always good for a laugh. Baggers do mind if we now refer to Hazlewood as "Glow worm". Why? Paddles will understand. I did a tour of the glow worms in Te Anau NZ and I came across this. I wish I was a glow worm, A glow worm's never glum. "cos how can you be grumpy When the sun shines out your bum! Now watch Baggers go off. hily amusing Mike Still waiting for me to win an argument? Get real.. You just wont admit that many more people who are better judges than you rate Hazlewood as Australia's finest bowler.. not only seamer. I will listen to them and ignore you and no longer play your silly games.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI vacillated about starting a separate thread on this topic, but I don't think any of Smith, Warner or Bancroft should ever be captain or vice captain again under any circumstances. They brought the game into disrepute. I come from a small place. I know on good authority from a senior Shield colleague of Paine's that he was in utter disbelief when he found out that what those three had done with the ball tampering incident in SA. h ecoul don twelve that had dome it. He had no idea beforehand and was totally shocked. I'm even uneasy about them being selected again. ATM Paine and Langer are constantly in conversation all the time discussing tactics. They lead the team. I'd not want to see any pernicious and destabilising influences return. If they are selected again, they need the riot read to them to shut up and keep their heads down. Smith's body language was atrocious as captain, always looking frustrated with his teammates. He was too young and too immature for the captaincy. Apart from Paine, Lyon, Hazlewood and Starc, nobody else is really established in the team, apart from arguably Usman. Cummins has faded from even a year ago and isn't the bowler he was. As long as Paine's form holds out he should be captain for mine. I am biased as he was a student in a school I taught at. I bowled to him in the playground. I think he looks like the best in the role since Mark Taylor. Ponting and Clarke exploded publicly at times - a bad look for a captain. Waugh didn't have the respect of some teammates. Some considered him selfish and not supporting them in times of difficulty. Taylor was a revered figure. Langer cleaned out West Aussie cricket. He suspended Tom Triffet, the Tassie recruited wicketkeeper, who was caught breaking and entering on a WA tour with a teammate. Langer also suspended both Marshes for inappropriate behaviour. He came down on them like a ton of bricks! ATM our batting is abysmal, but if Renshaw can regain the the form he had, it will start to look brighter. We need a string team ethos ATM - not one prone to cheating. I don't think Warner is in any danger of ever getting a captaincy position again... Smudger is a lot younger than Paine... so I would not rule him out entirely in the future... Paine is 34 - 3 seasons max after this one left - more likely 2. And Smudger is ineligible for a year after return anyway... Warner and Smith are going to be crowd sledged endlessly for a while (in England all tour for sure), so they may not find it easy going for a while. I am not entirely convinced that Warner will even win over the Aus public again, who for years went into bat for him, just because of the CA team... who feel let down. They would rather he had punched de Kock than sandpaper the ball through Bancroft as reported... He has learnt somethi Smithy - he was weak to Warner. He will regret it immensely. But - if he makes runs, the Aussie public will forgive him... As re his captaincy in future, he has learnt something from this that none of all those runs could ever teach him.... Gday Paddles, I totally agree with you, Warner may even have trouble getting back into the side, Bancroft should slot in again as I do not feel there is much anger towards him from the public. Smith will return, probably better for what happened & I still think if no one else stands up he will be captain again when he is eligible I can not see Bancroft coming back any time soon. He was under scrutiny before his misdemeanour for a dodgy technique. Tim deserves to have the captaincy for as long as he wants. Smith can wait. If Marsh does not cement his spot then give Smith the deputy badge. Despite my not liking any wk / captain as I have posted, Smith as VC to Paine would work. As I have posted the only way for Paine to stay captain is have an extremely good VC beside him to help out. Smith could do that & at the same time be the captain in waiting for when Paine retires. Interesting thought Respectfully, disagree, JJ. Paine is captain in his own right. He spends a lot of time conferring with Langer. Problem is Langer is not on the field & who decides on last minute changes that Paine misses because he's concentrating on behind the stumps. To keep Paine as captain a really good VC is required to actively help him out - we don't have one - Too much for a WC/captain. Obviously if Smith was in the mix, would not be for a while - who is there with Marsh no guarantee to keep his spot. This is a huge weakness in the Australian side and needs rectifying. I think Finch has a very good cricket brain from what I hear from the LOC internationals when he has captained Aus (I don't watch any of it though). Usman is also a state captain - as is Head. He has these resources to draw on out on the field. Paine has played with George Bailey in the Shield for years - and they are very close mates. Paine has also played a lot of Shield cricket and a fair few LOC internationals. In addition, he had a very good overseas tour a few years back when he replaced Haddin as Test keeper - Pakistan? There was a school of though he should replace Haddin as Test keeper then, because he was a better gloveman and had done little wrong with the bat. Moreover, Paine was already identified as a future Australian captain even then. It just happens he was a state player with arguably the best captain in the country in George Bailey. Bailey also said he would step aside for Paine to captain Tas , if he was being groomed for the Test captaincy. Then the Aussie Test selectors selected Haddin again and Paine got injured. Gday Dc, thanks for that, as a lot of info on Paine I wasn't aware of. Part of being in the wild west and we are very parochial. I quess it comes down to a VC that can help him. My problem with Finch, is that I do not see him being in the team long term in any position as his technique has too many problems and he is also 32. Mitch Marsh & Handscomb positions are tenuous, so pending on the team selected for MCG & result of same, CA could be finally forced to face reality & make some changes, which may be the time they sort out the VC. Khawaja I put forward on a previous post, as I did not know much of his background. I now see him as a long term number 3, able to open if a quick wicket lost, can stay if required to anchor an innings and score freely when required & one of the few experienced batsmen I see keeping his place. So is he a future VC or is he too old? If Burns comes in - RH batsman, he is 29 but again I do not know much of his background. Our list does not seem to have an up & coming player to be VC and groomed for a future captain. The truth of the matter is there will be no changes for Melbourne folks.. sorry to disappoint. CA has lost it. Dont change a winning side. That is a nonsense. There are cracks in this Baggy Greens squad... CA is painting over them.
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+x+x+xI vacillated about starting a separate thread on this topic, but I don't think any of Smith, Warner or Bancroft should ever be captain or vice captain again under any circumstances. They brought the game into disrepute. I come from a small place. I know on good authority from a senior Shield colleague of Paine's that he was in utter disbelief when he found out that what those three had done with the ball tampering incident in SA. h ecoul don twelve that had dome it. He had no idea beforehand and was totally shocked. I'm even uneasy about them being selected again. ATM Paine and Langer are constantly in conversation all the time discussing tactics. They lead the team. I'd not want to see any pernicious and destabilising influences return. If they are selected again, they need the riot read to them to shut up and keep their heads down. Smith's body language was atrocious as captain, always looking frustrated with his teammates. He was too young and too immature for the captaincy. Apart from Paine, Lyon, Hazlewood and Starc, nobody else is really established in the team, apart from arguably Usman. Cummins has faded from even a year ago and isn't the bowler he was. As long as Paine's form holds out he should be captain for mine. I am biased as he was a student in a school I taught at. I bowled to him in the playground. I think he looks like the best in the role since Mark Taylor. Ponting and Clarke exploded publicly at times - a bad look for a captain. Waugh didn't have the respect of some teammates. Some considered him selfish and not supporting them in times of difficulty. Taylor was a revered figure. Langer cleaned out West Aussie cricket. He suspended Tom Triffet, the Tassie recruited wicketkeeper, who was caught breaking and entering on a WA tour with a teammate. Langer also suspended both Marshes for inappropriate behaviour. He came down on them like a ton of bricks! ATM our batting is abysmal, but if Renshaw can regain the the form he had, it will start to look brighter. We need a string team ethos ATM - not one prone to cheating. DC I wondered what happened to Triffet... a Tassie boy. How his star fell after he kept for the victorious 2010 U19 World Cup winners. Triffet is selling real estate in Tas. He blew his chance in WA. Tas didn't want him after his crime. Tasmania has many back up keepers like McDermott, Doran and Dunk. What crime? Mac, Doran and Dunk suck compared to Triffet's glove skills. They do not pick keepers for Australia unless they are the best.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI vacillated about starting a separate thread on this topic, but I don't think any of Smith, Warner or Bancroft should ever be captain or vice captain again under any circumstances. They brought the game into disrepute. I come from a small place. I know on good authority from a senior Shield colleague of Paine's that he was in utter disbelief when he found out that what those three had done with the ball tampering incident in SA. h ecoul don twelve that had dome it. He had no idea beforehand and was totally shocked. I'm even uneasy about them being selected again. ATM Paine and Langer are constantly in conversation all the time discussing tactics. They lead the team. I'd not want to see any pernicious and destabilising influences return. If they are selected again, they need the riot read to them to shut up and keep their heads down. Smith's body language was atrocious as captain, always looking frustrated with his teammates. He was too young and too immature for the captaincy. Apart from Paine, Lyon, Hazlewood and Starc, nobody else is really established in the team, apart from arguably Usman. Cummins has faded from even a year ago and isn't the bowler he was. As long as Paine's form holds out he should be captain for mine. I am biased as he was a student in a school I taught at. I bowled to him in the playground. I think he looks like the best in the role since Mark Taylor. Ponting and Clarke exploded publicly at times - a bad look for a captain. Waugh didn't have the respect of some teammates. Some considered him selfish and not supporting them in times of difficulty. Taylor was a revered figure. Langer cleaned out West Aussie cricket. He suspended Tom Triffet, the Tassie recruited wicketkeeper, who was caught breaking and entering on a WA tour with a teammate. Langer also suspended both Marshes for inappropriate behaviour. He came down on them like a ton of bricks! ATM our batting is abysmal, but if Renshaw can regain the the form he had, it will start to look brighter. We need a string team ethos ATM - not one prone to cheating. I don't think Warner is in any danger of ever getting a captaincy position again... Smudger is a lot younger than Paine... so I would not rule him out entirely in the future... Paine is 34 - 3 seasons max after this one left - more likely 2. And Smudger is ineligible for a year after return anyway... Warner and Smith are going to be crowd sledged endlessly for a while (in England all tour for sure), so they may not find it easy going for a while. I am not entirely convinced that Warner will even win over the Aus public again, who for years went into bat for him, just because of the CA team... who feel let down. They would rather he had punched de Kock than sandpaper the ball through Bancroft as reported... He has learnt somethi Smithy - he was weak to Warner. He will regret it immensely. But - if he makes runs, the Aussie public will forgive him... As re his captaincy in future, he has learnt something from this that none of all those runs could ever teach him.... Gday Paddles, I totally agree with you, Warner may even have trouble getting back into the side, Bancroft should slot in again as I do not feel there is much anger towards him from the public. Smith will return, probably better for what happened & I still think if no one else stands up he will be captain again when he is eligible I can not see Bancroft coming back any time soon. He was under scrutiny before his misdemeanour for a dodgy technique. Tim deserves to have the captaincy for as long as he wants. Smith can wait. If Marsh does not cement his spot then give Smith the deputy badge. Despite my not liking any wk / captain as I have posted, Smith as VC to Paine would work. As I have posted the only way for Paine to stay captain is have an extremely good VC beside him to help out. Smith could do that & at the same time be the captain in waiting for when Paine retires. Interesting thought Respectfully, disagree, JJ. Paine is captain in his own right. He spends a lot of time conferring with Langer. Problem is Langer is not on the field & who decides on last minute changes that Paine misses because he's concentrating on behind the stumps. To keep Paine as captain a really good VC is required to actively help him out - we don't have one - Too much for a WC/captain. Obviously if Smith was in the mix, would not be for a while - who is there with Marsh no guarantee to keep his spot. This is a huge weakness in the Australian side and needs rectifying. I think Finch has a very good cricket brain from what I hear from the LOC internationals when he has captained Aus (I don't watch any of it though). Usman is also a state captain - as is Head. He has these resources to draw on out on the field. Paine has played with George Bailey in the Shield for years - and they are very close mates. Paine has also played a lot of Shield cricket and a fair few LOC internationals. In addition, he had a very good overseas tour a few years back when he replaced Haddin as Test keeper - Pakistan? There was a school of though he should replace Haddin as Test keeper then, because he was a better gloveman and had done little wrong with the bat. Moreover, Paine was already identified as a future Australian captain even then. It just happens he was a state player with arguably the best captain in the country in George Bailey. Bailey also said he would step aside for Paine to captain Tas , if he was being groomed for the Test captaincy. Then the Aussie Test selectors selected Haddin again and Paine got injured. Gday Dc, thanks for that, as a lot of info on Paine I wasn't aware of. Part of being in the wild west and we are very parochial. I quess it comes down to a VC that can help him. My problem with Finch, is that I do not see him being in the team long term in any position as his technique has too many problems and he is also 32. Mitch Marsh & Handscomb positions are tenuous, so pending on the team selected for MCG & result of same, CA could be finally forced to face reality & make some changes, which may be the time they sort out the VC. Khawaja I put forward on a previous post, as I did not know much of his background. I now see him as a long term number 3, able to open if a quick wicket lost, can stay if required to anchor an innings and score freely when required & one of the few experienced batsmen I see keeping his place. So is he a future VC or is he too old? If Burns comes in - RH batsman, he is 29 but again I do not know much of his background. Our list does not seem to have an up & coming player to be VC and groomed for a future captain. The truth of the matter is there will be no changes for Melbourne folks.. sorry to disappoint. CA has lost it. Dont change a winning side. That is a nonsense. There are cracks in this Baggy Greens squad... CA is painting over them. Worst logic ever. Totally disagree with it. Why wait for a loss to improve a team... Healy won his last test - and was rightfully dropped for Gilchrist... it is what it is...
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+x+x+x+xI vacillated about starting a separate thread on this topic, but I don't think any of Smith, Warner or Bancroft should ever be captain or vice captain again under any circumstances. They brought the game into disrepute. I come from a small place. I know on good authority from a senior Shield colleague of Paine's that he was in utter disbelief when he found out that what those three had done with the ball tampering incident in SA. h ecoul don twelve that had dome it. He had no idea beforehand and was totally shocked. I'm even uneasy about them being selected again. ATM Paine and Langer are constantly in conversation all the time discussing tactics. They lead the team. I'd not want to see any pernicious and destabilising influences return. If they are selected again, they need the riot read to them to shut up and keep their heads down. Smith's body language was atrocious as captain, always looking frustrated with his teammates. He was too young and too immature for the captaincy. Apart from Paine, Lyon, Hazlewood and Starc, nobody else is really established in the team, apart from arguably Usman. Cummins has faded from even a year ago and isn't the bowler he was. As long as Paine's form holds out he should be captain for mine. I am biased as he was a student in a school I taught at. I bowled to him in the playground. I think he looks like the best in the role since Mark Taylor. Ponting and Clarke exploded publicly at times - a bad look for a captain. Waugh didn't have the respect of some teammates. Some considered him selfish and not supporting them in times of difficulty. Taylor was a revered figure. Langer cleaned out West Aussie cricket. He suspended Tom Triffet, the Tassie recruited wicketkeeper, who was caught breaking and entering on a WA tour with a teammate. Langer also suspended both Marshes for inappropriate behaviour. He came down on them like a ton of bricks! ATM our batting is abysmal, but if Renshaw can regain the the form he had, it will start to look brighter. We need a string team ethos ATM - not one prone to cheating. DC I wondered what happened to Triffet... a Tassie boy. How his star fell after he kept for the victorious 2010 U19 World Cup winners. Triffet is selling real estate in Tas. He blew his chance in WA. Tas didn't want him after his crime. Tasmania has many back up keepers like McDermott, Doran and Dunk. What crime? Mac, Doran and Dunk suck compared to Triffet's glove skills. They do not pick keepers for Australia unless they are the best. Triffet was caught breaking and entering with a WA teammate whilst on tour with WA in Queensland. Whiteman replaced him with the gloves for WA and has done little wrong.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI vacillated about starting a separate thread on this topic, but I don't think any of Smith, Warner or Bancroft should ever be captain or vice captain again under any circumstances. They brought the game into disrepute. I come from a small place. I know on good authority from a senior Shield colleague of Paine's that he was in utter disbelief when he found out that what those three had done with the ball tampering incident in SA. h ecoul don twelve that had dome it. He had no idea beforehand and was totally shocked. I'm even uneasy about them being selected again. ATM Paine and Langer are constantly in conversation all the time discussing tactics. They lead the team. I'd not want to see any pernicious and destabilising influences return. If they are selected again, they need the riot read to them to shut up and keep their heads down. Smith's body language was atrocious as captain, always looking frustrated with his teammates. He was too young and too immature for the captaincy. Apart from Paine, Lyon, Hazlewood and Starc, nobody else is really established in the team, apart from arguably Usman. Cummins has faded from even a year ago and isn't the bowler he was. As long as Paine's form holds out he should be captain for mine. I am biased as he was a student in a school I taught at. I bowled to him in the playground. I think he looks like the best in the role since Mark Taylor. Ponting and Clarke exploded publicly at times - a bad look for a captain. Waugh didn't have the respect of some teammates. Some considered him selfish and not supporting them in times of difficulty. Taylor was a revered figure. Langer cleaned out West Aussie cricket. He suspended Tom Triffet, the Tassie recruited wicketkeeper, who was caught breaking and entering on a WA tour with a teammate. Langer also suspended both Marshes for inappropriate behaviour. He came down on them like a ton of bricks! ATM our batting is abysmal, but if Renshaw can regain the the form he had, it will start to look brighter. We need a string team ethos ATM - not one prone to cheating. I don't think Warner is in any danger of ever getting a captaincy position again... Smudger is a lot younger than Paine... so I would not rule him out entirely in the future... Paine is 34 - 3 seasons max after this one left - more likely 2. And Smudger is ineligible for a year after return anyway... Warner and Smith are going to be crowd sledged endlessly for a while (in England all tour for sure), so they may not find it easy going for a while. I am not entirely convinced that Warner will even win over the Aus public again, who for years went into bat for him, just because of the CA team... who feel let down. They would rather he had punched de Kock than sandpaper the ball through Bancroft as reported... He has learnt somethi Smithy - he was weak to Warner. He will regret it immensely. But - if he makes runs, the Aussie public will forgive him... As re his captaincy in future, he has learnt something from this that none of all those runs could ever teach him.... Gday Paddles, I totally agree with you, Warner may even have trouble getting back into the side, Bancroft should slot in again as I do not feel there is much anger towards him from the public. Smith will return, probably better for what happened & I still think if no one else stands up he will be captain again when he is eligible I can not see Bancroft coming back any time soon. He was under scrutiny before his misdemeanour for a dodgy technique. Tim deserves to have the captaincy for as long as he wants. Smith can wait. If Marsh does not cement his spot then give Smith the deputy badge. Despite my not liking any wk / captain as I have posted, Smith as VC to Paine would work. As I have posted the only way for Paine to stay captain is have an extremely good VC beside him to help out. Smith could do that & at the same time be the captain in waiting for when Paine retires. Interesting thought Respectfully, disagree, JJ. Paine is captain in his own right. He spends a lot of time conferring with Langer. Problem is Langer is not on the field & who decides on last minute changes that Paine misses because he's concentrating on behind the stumps. To keep Paine as captain a really good VC is required to actively help him out - we don't have one - Too much for a WC/captain. Obviously if Smith was in the mix, would not be for a while - who is there with Marsh no guarantee to keep his spot. This is a huge weakness in the Australian side and needs rectifying. I think Finch has a very good cricket brain from what I hear from the LOC internationals when he has captained Aus (I don't watch any of it though). Usman is also a state captain - as is Head. He has these resources to draw on out on the field. Paine has played with George Bailey in the Shield for years - and they are very close mates. Paine has also played a lot of Shield cricket and a fair few LOC internationals. In addition, he had a very good overseas tour a few years back when he replaced Haddin as Test keeper - Pakistan? There was a school of though he should replace Haddin as Test keeper then, because he was a better gloveman and had done little wrong with the bat. Moreover, Paine was already identified as a future Australian captain even then. It just happens he was a state player with arguably the best captain in the country in George Bailey. Bailey also said he would step aside for Paine to captain Tas , if he was being groomed for the Test captaincy. Then the Aussie Test selectors selected Haddin again and Paine got injured. Gday Dc, thanks for that, as a lot of info on Paine I wasn't aware of. Part of being in the wild west and we are very parochial. I quess it comes down to a VC that can help him. My problem with Finch, is that I do not see him being in the team long term in any position as his technique has too many problems and he is also 32. Mitch Marsh & Handscomb positions are tenuous, so pending on the team selected for MCG & result of same, CA could be finally forced to face reality & make some changes, which may be the time they sort out the VC. Khawaja I put forward on a previous post, as I did not know much of his background. I now see him as a long term number 3, able to open if a quick wicket lost, can stay if required to anchor an innings and score freely when required & one of the few experienced batsmen I see keeping his place. So is he a future VC or is he too old? If Burns comes in - RH batsman, he is 29 but again I do not know much of his background. Our list does not seem to have an up & coming player to be VC and groomed for a future captain. The truth of the matter is there will be no changes for Melbourne folks.. sorry to disappoint. CA has lost it. Dont change a winning side. That is a nonsense. There are cracks in this Baggy Greens squad... CA is painting over them. Gday Dc, It's starting to worry me that I am agreeing with you. Team announced, unchanged squad of 13, final 11 to be decided. So with this apparently unbeatable team we have, the other inclusions could be Siddle & S. Marsh. It's a joke & as I listed my long post regarding the state of Australian cricket, the first groups to get minus's were CA & the selectors. I fear for our Test team & I do not see us getting the trophy back.
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