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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x6 centuries and 26 50s from 103 innings is bang on average for an average player averaging 41 Maxwell with a near identical average has 7 centuries and 21 50s from 104 innings. There is also 5 years between the two. Lets invest in the younger man as we are certain to get a better return from him in the longer term. There is talk to return Labu.. with his @33 average. Could this be as they view his bowling useful for Sydney. Will someone inform CA that the SCG is no longer a spinning paradise. if you have white and maxwell you have 2 part time spinners which is enough to give support to lyon but gives you 2 batsmen averaging over 40 Burns Marsh Khawaja Pattison white Maxwell at least we will be competitive then grazor you have now typed Pattison . You are becoming confused with Pattinson I think. Just think patter as in rain drops. I'd have White at #4 to break up the lefties. too many players with similar sounding names :D Why you sticking with Marsh? Shaun? As bad as he is I'm not sure we have someone better unless lynn is available. Maybe Wade? Perhaps I've missed someone. Giving Harris another go being a youngster of Pukovski are other options Think it would be a touch harsh not to give Harris at least the 4th Test. yeah ok Marsh Burns Khawaja White Patterson Maxwell Paine Cummins Starc Lyon Tremain If you are dumping Hazlewood, Starc has to go too. I want Richardson for him.
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+x+x+xmy department castigates us to make sure we use the full range in grading So with that in mind and forgetting who dropped those 5 catches (apart from pain) my scores Finch 0/10 Harris 2/10 Khawaja 4/10 S Marsh 5/10 M Marsh 4/10 Paine 3/10 Cummins 10/10 Starc 5/10 Hazelwood 4/10 Lyon 2/10 That is harsh on our two quicks. Hazlewood outbowled Starc for mine. You were full of praise for their bowling effort on that sweltering day. Lyon toiled hard too. Reason I gave them all same points. Why Paine only 3? Missed Head? Good time for a pun about Australia missing their head 4/10ish
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+x+xmy department castigates us to make sure we use the full range in grading So with that in mind and forgetting who dropped those 5 catches (apart from pain) my scores Finch 0/10 Harris 2/10 Khawaja 4/10 S Marsh 5/10 M Marsh 4/10 Paine 3/10 Cummins 10/10 Starc 5/10 Hazelwood 4/10 Lyon 2/10 That is harsh on our two quicks. Hazlewood outbowled Starc for mine. You were full of praise for their bowling effort on that sweltering day. Lyon toiled hard too. Reason I gave them all same points. Why Paine only 3? missed a pivotal catch, sloppy with byes and didn't chip in enough runs They certainly bowled without luck and it was an incredible effort but in the end they didn't break through this test. They got scored higher than most players in the team
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+x+xmy department castigates us to make sure we use the full range in grading So with that in mind and forgetting who dropped those 5 catches (apart from pain) my scores Finch 0/10 Harris 2/10 Khawaja 4/10 S Marsh 5/10 M Marsh 4/10 Paine 3/10 Cummins 10/10 Starc 5/10 Hazelwood 4/10 Lyon 2/10 That is harsh on our two quicks. Hazlewood outbowled Starc for mine. You were full of praise for their bowling effort on that sweltering day. Lyon toiled hard too. Reason I gave them all same points. Why Paine only 3? Missed Head?
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+xmy department castigates us to make sure we use the full range in grading So with that in mind and forgetting who dropped those 5 catches (apart from pain) my scores Finch 0/10 Harris 2/10 Khawaja 4/10 S Marsh 5/10 M Marsh 4/10 Paine 3/10 Cummins 10/10 Starc 5/10 Hazelwood 4/10 Lyon 2/10 That is harsh on our two quicks. Hazlewood outbowled Starc for mine. You were full of praise for their bowling effort on that sweltering day. Lyon toiled hard too. Reason I gave them all same points. Why Paine only 3? You missed Head.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x6 centuries and 26 50s from 103 innings is bang on average for an average player averaging 41 Maxwell with a near identical average has 7 centuries and 21 50s from 104 innings. There is also 5 years between the two. Lets invest in the younger man as we are certain to get a better return from him in the longer term. There is talk to return Labu.. with his @33 average. Could this be as they view his bowling useful for Sydney. Will someone inform CA that the SCG is no longer a spinning paradise. if you have white and maxwell you have 2 part time spinners which is enough to give support to lyon but gives you 2 batsmen averaging over 40 Burns Marsh Khawaja Pattison white Maxwell at least we will be competitive then grazor you have now typed Pattison . You are becoming confused with Pattinson I think. Just think patter as in rain drops. I'd have White at #4 to break up the lefties. too many players with similar sounding names :D Why you sticking with Marsh? Shaun? As bad as he is I'm not sure we have someone better unless lynn is available. Maybe Wade? Perhaps I've missed someone. Giving Harris another go being a youngster of Pukovski are other options Think it would be a touch harsh not to give Harris at least the 4th Test. yeah ok Marsh Burns Khawaja White Patterson Maxwell Paine Cummins Starc Lyon Tremain
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my department castigates us to make sure we use the full range in grading
So with that in mind and forgetting who dropped those 5 catches (apart from pain) my scores
Finch 0/10
Harris 2/10
Khawaja 4/10
S Marsh 5/10
M Marsh 4/10
Paine 3/10
Cummins 10/10
Starc 5/10
Hazelwood 4/10
Lyon 2/10
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+xGot a good'n from India's best bowler. Hard to pick up where he left off last nite.. He was well and truly in the zone then. Will be all over soon. Both Cummins & Lyon looked tired at the crease and played tired looking shots - What they have done in the conditions was impressive but I think finally caught up with them.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x6 centuries and 26 50s from 103 innings is bang on average for an average player averaging 41 Maxwell with a near identical average has 7 centuries and 21 50s from 104 innings. There is also 5 years between the two. Lets invest in the younger man as we are certain to get a better return from him in the longer term. There is talk to return Labu.. with his @33 average. Could this be as they view his bowling useful for Sydney. Will someone inform CA that the SCG is no longer a spinning paradise. if you have white and maxwell you have 2 part time spinners which is enough to give support to lyon but gives you 2 batsmen averaging over 40 Burns Marsh Khawaja Pattison white Maxwell at least we will be competitive then grazor you have now typed Pattison . You are becoming confused with Pattinson I think. Just think patter as in rain drops. I'd have White at #4 to break up the lefties. too many players with similar sounding names :D Why you sticking with Marsh? Shaun? As bad as he is I'm not sure we have someone better unless lynn is available. Maybe Wade? Perhaps I've missed someone. Giving Harris another go being a youngster of Pukovski are other options Think it would be a touch harsh not to give Harris at least the 4th Test.
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That didnt take long. Well played India. They have finally won a series on our shores. CA handed them this trophy by the batsmen they picked. India comprehensively superior with the bat and jus t took the points with the ball.
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well that was depressingly quick
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My REPORT CARD:
Finch 3
Harris 4
Khawaja 5
Marsh 5
head 4
Marsh 5
Paine 5
Cummins 9
Starc 6
Lyon 6
Hazlewood 6
Before y'all jump down my throat. Mitch Marsh gets a pass mark due to his contribution with the ball.
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passed 300 one time in the last 8 tests unbelievably poor from the batsmen
So many times when opposition have been in trouble they can just say to themselves "even if we make 200 we probably win"
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Got a good'n from India's best bowler. Hard to pick up where he left off last nite.. He was well and truly in the zone then. Will be all over soon.
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shame about cummins
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+x+x+x+x+x+x6 centuries and 26 50s from 103 innings is bang on average for an average player averaging 41 Maxwell with a near identical average has 7 centuries and 21 50s from 104 innings. There is also 5 years between the two. Lets invest in the younger man as we are certain to get a better return from him in the longer term. There is talk to return Labu.. with his @33 average. Could this be as they view his bowling useful for Sydney. Will someone inform CA that the SCG is no longer a spinning paradise. if you have white and maxwell you have 2 part time spinners which is enough to give support to lyon but gives you 2 batsmen averaging over 40 Burns Marsh Khawaja Pattison white Maxwell at least we will be competitive then grazor you have now typed Pattison . You are becoming confused with Pattinson I think. Just think patter as in rain drops. I'd have White at #4 to break up the lefties. too many players with similar sounding names :D Why you sticking with Marsh? They are playing. Must have been a break in the rain. But more to come says the radar. Can Cummins get his ton? What coverage do you get of this series in the states? I have to use streams sadly
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+x+x+x+x+x6 centuries and 26 50s from 103 innings is bang on average for an average player averaging 41 Maxwell with a near identical average has 7 centuries and 21 50s from 104 innings. There is also 5 years between the two. Lets invest in the younger man as we are certain to get a better return from him in the longer term. There is talk to return Labu.. with his @33 average. Could this be as they view his bowling useful for Sydney. Will someone inform CA that the SCG is no longer a spinning paradise. if you have white and maxwell you have 2 part time spinners which is enough to give support to lyon but gives you 2 batsmen averaging over 40 Burns Marsh Khawaja Pattison white Maxwell at least we will be competitive then grazor you have now typed Pattison . You are becoming confused with Pattinson I think. Just think patter as in rain drops. I'd have White at #4 to break up the lefties. too many players with similar sounding names :D Why you sticking with Marsh? They are playing. Must have been a break in the rain. But more to come says the radar. Can Cummins get his ton? What coverage do you get of this series in the states?
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+x+x+x+x+x6 centuries and 26 50s from 103 innings is bang on average for an average player averaging 41 Maxwell with a near identical average has 7 centuries and 21 50s from 104 innings. There is also 5 years between the two. Lets invest in the younger man as we are certain to get a better return from him in the longer term. There is talk to return Labu.. with his @33 average. Could this be as they view his bowling useful for Sydney. Will someone inform CA that the SCG is no longer a spinning paradise. if you have white and maxwell you have 2 part time spinners which is enough to give support to lyon but gives you 2 batsmen averaging over 40 Burns Marsh Khawaja Pattison white Maxwell at least we will be competitive then grazor you have now typed Pattison . You are becoming confused with Pattinson I think. Just think patter as in rain drops. I'd have White at #4 to break up the lefties. too many players with similar sounding names :D Why you sticking with Marsh? Shaun? As bad as he is I'm not sure we have someone better unless lynn is available. Maybe Wade? Perhaps I've missed someone. Giving Harris another go being a youngster of Pukovski are other options
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+x+x+x+x6 centuries and 26 50s from 103 innings is bang on average for an average player averaging 41 Maxwell with a near identical average has 7 centuries and 21 50s from 104 innings. There is also 5 years between the two. Lets invest in the younger man as we are certain to get a better return from him in the longer term. There is talk to return Labu.. with his @33 average. Could this be as they view his bowling useful for Sydney. Will someone inform CA that the SCG is no longer a spinning paradise. if you have white and maxwell you have 2 part time spinners which is enough to give support to lyon but gives you 2 batsmen averaging over 40 Burns Marsh Khawaja Pattison white Maxwell at least we will be competitive then grazor you have now typed Pattison . You are becoming confused with Pattinson I think. Just think patter as in rain drops. I'd have White at #4 to break up the lefties. too many players with similar sounding names :D Why you sticking with Marsh?
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+x+x+x6 centuries and 26 50s from 103 innings is bang on average for an average player averaging 41 Maxwell with a near identical average has 7 centuries and 21 50s from 104 innings. There is also 5 years between the two. Lets invest in the younger man as we are certain to get a better return from him in the longer term. There is talk to return Labu.. with his @33 average. Could this be as they view his bowling useful for Sydney. Will someone inform CA that the SCG is no longer a spinning paradise. if you have white and maxwell you have 2 part time spinners which is enough to give support to lyon but gives you 2 batsmen averaging over 40 Burns Marsh Khawaja Pattison white Maxwell at least we will be competitive then grazor you have now typed Pattison . You are becoming confused with Pattinson I think. Just think patter as in rain drops. I'd have White at #4 to break up the lefties. too many players with similar sounding names :D
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+x+x6 centuries and 26 50s from 103 innings is bang on average for an average player averaging 41 Maxwell with a near identical average has 7 centuries and 21 50s from 104 innings. There is also 5 years between the two. Lets invest in the younger man as we are certain to get a better return from him in the longer term. There is talk to return Labu.. with his @33 average. Could this be as they view his bowling useful for Sydney. Will someone inform CA that the SCG is no longer a spinning paradise. if you have white and maxwell you have 2 part time spinners which is enough to give support to lyon but gives you 2 batsmen averaging over 40 Burns Marsh Khawaja Pattison white Maxwell at least we will be competitive then grazor you have now typed Pattison . You are becoming confused with Pattinson I think. Just think patter as in rain drops. I'd have White at #4 to break up the lefties. You sticking with Marsh?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAs for whether NSW scores are inflated here are the ground averages per wicket over the past season NSW 30.1 Tas 25.9 WA 32.1 QLD 47.75 SA 34.8 Vic 30.26 If NSW runs are inflated due to flat pitches its not showing up in the stats..... Last year Patterson away from home scored 14, 0, 12, 16, 22, 17, 24, 16, 43 and 53 (217 av 21.7), but overall he scored 672 runs at 37. That is a big discrepancy and only 1 test a year is played in Sydney, where Patterson scored 455 runs @ 56.8 So yes I see an inflated average. But this year Patterson is scoring away from home with the century in Perth being his best to date, so though I don't think Patterson is ready just yet, he has definitely improved and maybe next year if this form continues he is worthy of being potentially selected. Lets have an honest look at Patterson say against SA away from home last 3 years 0, 7, 14, 0, 17, 12 (total 50 runs @8.3) Outstanding I'll be generous and look at WA since he just scored a century there. 24, 16, 8, 39, (av was 21) then scored 107, 43 lifting his av to 40 so yes that is moving in the right direction But in all honesty he has played OK against the Vics scoring 61, 43, 53, 63 and 53 a lot of good starts but where are the 100's I do remember at the Gabba a few years ago he did score a 111, the reason I remember that game is Joe Burns MURDERED Starc and Hazlewood scoring 160 for the game. But maybe you're right this discrepancy doesn't affect all players in NSW, Let's have a look at this year Hughes Home av 71 Away 18 Larkin Home av 62.5 Away 30 Henriques Home av 55.4 Away 22.5 Sangha Home av 53 Away 9 Edwards Home av 35 Away 21 Nevill Home av 32 Away 18 Does anyone else see a discrepancy between home and away, because my "bias" may be clouding my judgement? Post all state players Mike. Instead of targeting only those from the state you clearly detest. Then we will get the full story. I would a have notioned that home ground advantage was just that.. so home scores would be superior to away. I may be wrong. So prove me wrong mr stats man. I can't be bothered doing all states but I'll do Qld which is representative of the other 5 states, you'll just have to take my word on that Burns Home 44 Away 41 Renshaw Home 32 Away 12 (He is horribly out of form) Hemphrey Home 30 Away 24 Heazlett Home 9 Away 32 Labuschagne Home 27 Away 31 Wildermuth Home 15 Away 26 Peirson Home 33 Away 27.5 See the averages Home against away are a lot closer and in some cases they're better away from home than at home. Which is exactly what you expect it looks like a weird reason to exclude him based on low statistics that was only true a season ago. Nothing wrong with the scg or runs scored there. If we had 30 players averaging 40+ then we can nitpick like that but for mine he's earned his placed p.s. go rain :D Radar still showing plenty of rain heading for Melbourne this arvo. perhaps a little late though in this source https://weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/l/15746:25:ASdo you have another source with better news? Also there is a pollen warning. Can you pause a test for pollen? Some one could be allergic you know.... http://www.weatherzone.com.au/radar/vic/melbourne/128km looks pretty clear :( Is your radar animated or static? Mine is showing rain band from Beaufort in the west over the next two hours.. running smack bang into Melbourne. hopefully we last 2 hours then come on boys
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAs for whether NSW scores are inflated here are the ground averages per wicket over the past season NSW 30.1 Tas 25.9 WA 32.1 QLD 47.75 SA 34.8 Vic 30.26 If NSW runs are inflated due to flat pitches its not showing up in the stats..... Last year Patterson away from home scored 14, 0, 12, 16, 22, 17, 24, 16, 43 and 53 (217 av 21.7), but overall he scored 672 runs at 37. That is a big discrepancy and only 1 test a year is played in Sydney, where Patterson scored 455 runs @ 56.8 So yes I see an inflated average. But this year Patterson is scoring away from home with the century in Perth being his best to date, so though I don't think Patterson is ready just yet, he has definitely improved and maybe next year if this form continues he is worthy of being potentially selected. Lets have an honest look at Patterson say against SA away from home last 3 years 0, 7, 14, 0, 17, 12 (total 50 runs @8.3) Outstanding I'll be generous and look at WA since he just scored a century there. 24, 16, 8, 39, (av was 21) then scored 107, 43 lifting his av to 40 so yes that is moving in the right direction But in all honesty he has played OK against the Vics scoring 61, 43, 53, 63 and 53 a lot of good starts but where are the 100's I do remember at the Gabba a few years ago he did score a 111, the reason I remember that game is Joe Burns MURDERED Starc and Hazlewood scoring 160 for the game. But maybe you're right this discrepancy doesn't affect all players in NSW, Let's have a look at this year Hughes Home av 71 Away 18 Larkin Home av 62.5 Away 30 Henriques Home av 55.4 Away 22.5 Sangha Home av 53 Away 9 Edwards Home av 35 Away 21 Nevill Home av 32 Away 18 Does anyone else see a discrepancy between home and away, because my "bias" may be clouding my judgement? Post all state players Mike. Instead of targeting only those from the state you clearly detest. Then we will get the full story. I would a have notioned that home ground advantage was just that.. so home scores would be superior to away. I may be wrong. So prove me wrong mr stats man. I can't be bothered doing all states but I'll do Qld which is representative of the other 5 states, you'll just have to take my word on that Burns Home 44 Away 41 Renshaw Home 32 Away 12 (He is horribly out of form) Hemphrey Home 30 Away 24 Heazlett Home 9 Away 32 Labuschagne Home 27 Away 31 Wildermuth Home 15 Away 26 Peirson Home 33 Away 27.5 See the averages Home against away are a lot closer and in some cases they're better away from home than at home. Which is exactly what you expect it looks like a weird reason to exclude him based on low statistics that was only true a season ago. Nothing wrong with the scg or runs scored there. If we had 30 players averaging 40+ then we can nitpick like that but for mine he's earned his placed p.s. go rain :D Radar still showing plenty of rain heading for Melbourne this arvo. perhaps a little late though in this source https://weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/l/15746:25:ASdo you have another source with better news? Also there is a pollen warning. Can you pause a test for pollen? Some one could be allergic you know.... http://www.weatherzone.com.au/radar/vic/melbourne/128km looks pretty clear :( Is your radar animated or static? Mine is showing rain band from Beaufort in the west over the next two hours.. running smack bang into Melbourne.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAs for whether NSW scores are inflated here are the ground averages per wicket over the past season NSW 30.1 Tas 25.9 WA 32.1 QLD 47.75 SA 34.8 Vic 30.26 If NSW runs are inflated due to flat pitches its not showing up in the stats..... Last year Patterson away from home scored 14, 0, 12, 16, 22, 17, 24, 16, 43 and 53 (217 av 21.7), but overall he scored 672 runs at 37. That is a big discrepancy and only 1 test a year is played in Sydney, where Patterson scored 455 runs @ 56.8 So yes I see an inflated average. But this year Patterson is scoring away from home with the century in Perth being his best to date, so though I don't think Patterson is ready just yet, he has definitely improved and maybe next year if this form continues he is worthy of being potentially selected. Lets have an honest look at Patterson say against SA away from home last 3 years 0, 7, 14, 0, 17, 12 (total 50 runs @8.3) Outstanding I'll be generous and look at WA since he just scored a century there. 24, 16, 8, 39, (av was 21) then scored 107, 43 lifting his av to 40 so yes that is moving in the right direction But in all honesty he has played OK against the Vics scoring 61, 43, 53, 63 and 53 a lot of good starts but where are the 100's I do remember at the Gabba a few years ago he did score a 111, the reason I remember that game is Joe Burns MURDERED Starc and Hazlewood scoring 160 for the game. But maybe you're right this discrepancy doesn't affect all players in NSW, Let's have a look at this year Hughes Home av 71 Away 18 Larkin Home av 62.5 Away 30 Henriques Home av 55.4 Away 22.5 Sangha Home av 53 Away 9 Edwards Home av 35 Away 21 Nevill Home av 32 Away 18 Does anyone else see a discrepancy between home and away, because my "bias" may be clouding my judgement? Post all state players Mike. Instead of targeting only those from the state you clearly detest. Then we will get the full story. I would a have notioned that home ground advantage was just that.. so home scores would be superior to away. I may be wrong. So prove me wrong mr stats man. I can't be bothered doing all states but I'll do Qld which is representative of the other 5 states, you'll just have to take my word on that Burns Home 44 Away 41 Renshaw Home 32 Away 12 (He is horribly out of form) Hemphrey Home 30 Away 24 Heazlett Home 9 Away 32 Labuschagne Home 27 Away 31 Wildermuth Home 15 Away 26 Peirson Home 33 Away 27.5 See the averages Home against away are a lot closer and in some cases they're better away from home than at home. Which is exactly what you expect it looks like a weird reason to exclude him based on low statistics that was only true a season ago. Nothing wrong with the scg or runs scored there. If we had 30 players averaging 40+ then we can nitpick like that but for mine he's earned his placed p.s. go rain :D Radar still showing plenty of rain heading for Melbourne this arvo. perhaps a little late though in this source https://weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/l/15746:25:ASdo you have another source with better news? Also there is a pollen warning. Can you pause a test for pollen? Some one could be allergic you know.... http://www.weatherzone.com.au/radar/vic/melbourne/128km so what has changed uniquely in australia that our batting has fallen so much?
That is the $64,000 question. I maintain it is poor junior coaching. In addition, CA's Pathway Program targets kids with white ball cricket not red ball. Wonder why? slater said in an interview that young players used to play against low grade (usually drunk) adults as early teenagers but they scrapped that I could see that killing mental toughness.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAs for whether NSW scores are inflated here are the ground averages per wicket over the past season NSW 30.1 Tas 25.9 WA 32.1 QLD 47.75 SA 34.8 Vic 30.26 If NSW runs are inflated due to flat pitches its not showing up in the stats..... Last year Patterson away from home scored 14, 0, 12, 16, 22, 17, 24, 16, 43 and 53 (217 av 21.7), but overall he scored 672 runs at 37. That is a big discrepancy and only 1 test a year is played in Sydney, where Patterson scored 455 runs @ 56.8 So yes I see an inflated average. But this year Patterson is scoring away from home with the century in Perth being his best to date, so though I don't think Patterson is ready just yet, he has definitely improved and maybe next year if this form continues he is worthy of being potentially selected. Lets have an honest look at Patterson say against SA away from home last 3 years 0, 7, 14, 0, 17, 12 (total 50 runs @8.3) Outstanding I'll be generous and look at WA since he just scored a century there. 24, 16, 8, 39, (av was 21) then scored 107, 43 lifting his av to 40 so yes that is moving in the right direction But in all honesty he has played OK against the Vics scoring 61, 43, 53, 63 and 53 a lot of good starts but where are the 100's I do remember at the Gabba a few years ago he did score a 111, the reason I remember that game is Joe Burns MURDERED Starc and Hazlewood scoring 160 for the game. But maybe you're right this discrepancy doesn't affect all players in NSW, Let's have a look at this year Hughes Home av 71 Away 18 Larkin Home av 62.5 Away 30 Henriques Home av 55.4 Away 22.5 Sangha Home av 53 Away 9 Edwards Home av 35 Away 21 Nevill Home av 32 Away 18 Does anyone else see a discrepancy between home and away, because my "bias" may be clouding my judgement? Post all state players Mike. Instead of targeting only those from the state you clearly detest. Then we will get the full story. I would a have notioned that home ground advantage was just that.. so home scores would be superior to away. I may be wrong. So prove me wrong mr stats man. I can't be bothered doing all states but I'll do Qld which is representative of the other 5 states, you'll just have to take my word on that Burns Home 44 Away 41 Renshaw Home 32 Away 12 (He is horribly out of form) Hemphrey Home 30 Away 24 Heazlett Home 9 Away 32 Labuschagne Home 27 Away 31 Wildermuth Home 15 Away 26 Peirson Home 33 Away 27.5 See the averages Home against away are a lot closer and in some cases they're better away from home than at home. Which is exactly what you expect it looks like a weird reason to exclude him based on low statistics that was only true a season ago. Nothing wrong with the scg or runs scored there. If we had 30 players averaging 40+ then we can nitpick like that but for mine he's earned his placed p.s. go rain :D Radar still showing plenty of rain heading for Melbourne this arvo. perhaps a little late though in this source https://weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/l/15746:25:ASdo you have another source with better news? Also there is a pollen warning. Can you pause a test for pollen? Some one could be allergic you know.... http://www.weatherzone.com.au/radar/vic/melbourne/128km so what has changed uniquely in australia that our batting has fallen so much?
That is the $64,000 question. I maintain it is poor junior coaching. In addition, CA's Pathway Program targets kids with white ball cricket not red ball. Wonder why?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAs for whether NSW scores are inflated here are the ground averages per wicket over the past season NSW 30.1 Tas 25.9 WA 32.1 QLD 47.75 SA 34.8 Vic 30.26 If NSW runs are inflated due to flat pitches its not showing up in the stats..... Last year Patterson away from home scored 14, 0, 12, 16, 22, 17, 24, 16, 43 and 53 (217 av 21.7), but overall he scored 672 runs at 37. That is a big discrepancy and only 1 test a year is played in Sydney, where Patterson scored 455 runs @ 56.8 So yes I see an inflated average. But this year Patterson is scoring away from home with the century in Perth being his best to date, so though I don't think Patterson is ready just yet, he has definitely improved and maybe next year if this form continues he is worthy of being potentially selected. Lets have an honest look at Patterson say against SA away from home last 3 years 0, 7, 14, 0, 17, 12 (total 50 runs @8.3) Outstanding I'll be generous and look at WA since he just scored a century there. 24, 16, 8, 39, (av was 21) then scored 107, 43 lifting his av to 40 so yes that is moving in the right direction But in all honesty he has played OK against the Vics scoring 61, 43, 53, 63 and 53 a lot of good starts but where are the 100's I do remember at the Gabba a few years ago he did score a 111, the reason I remember that game is Joe Burns MURDERED Starc and Hazlewood scoring 160 for the game. But maybe you're right this discrepancy doesn't affect all players in NSW, Let's have a look at this year Hughes Home av 71 Away 18 Larkin Home av 62.5 Away 30 Henriques Home av 55.4 Away 22.5 Sangha Home av 53 Away 9 Edwards Home av 35 Away 21 Nevill Home av 32 Away 18 Does anyone else see a discrepancy between home and away, because my "bias" may be clouding my judgement? Post all state players Mike. Instead of targeting only those from the state you clearly detest. Then we will get the full story. I would a have notioned that home ground advantage was just that.. so home scores would be superior to away. I may be wrong. So prove me wrong mr stats man. I can't be bothered doing all states but I'll do Qld which is representative of the other 5 states, you'll just have to take my word on that Burns Home 44 Away 41 Renshaw Home 32 Away 12 (He is horribly out of form) Hemphrey Home 30 Away 24 Heazlett Home 9 Away 32 Labuschagne Home 27 Away 31 Wildermuth Home 15 Away 26 Peirson Home 33 Away 27.5 See the averages Home against away are a lot closer and in some cases they're better away from home than at home. Which is exactly what you expect it looks like a weird reason to exclude him based on low statistics that was only true a season ago. Nothing wrong with the scg or runs scored there. If we had 30 players averaging 40+ then we can nitpick like that but for mine he's earned his placed p.s. go rain :D Radar still showing plenty of rain heading for Melbourne this arvo. perhaps a little late though in this source https://weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/l/15746:25:ASdo you have another source with better news? Also there is a pollen warning. Can you pause a test for pollen? Some one could be allergic you know.... http://www.weatherzone.com.au/radar/vic/melbourne/128km looks pretty clear :(
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+x6 centuries and 26 50s from 103 innings is bang on average for an average player averaging 41 Maxwell with a near identical average has 7 centuries and 21 50s from 104 innings. There is also 5 years between the two. Lets invest in the younger man as we are certain to get a better return from him in the longer term. There is talk to return Labu.. with his @33 average. Could this be as they view his bowling useful for Sydney. Will someone inform CA that the SCG is no longer a spinning paradise. if you have white and maxwell you have 2 part time spinners which is enough to give support to lyon but gives you 2 batsmen averaging over 40 Burns Marsh Khawaja Pattison white Maxwell at least we will be competitive then
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAs for whether NSW scores are inflated here are the ground averages per wicket over the past season NSW 30.1 Tas 25.9 WA 32.1 QLD 47.75 SA 34.8 Vic 30.26 If NSW runs are inflated due to flat pitches its not showing up in the stats..... Last year Patterson away from home scored 14, 0, 12, 16, 22, 17, 24, 16, 43 and 53 (217 av 21.7), but overall he scored 672 runs at 37. That is a big discrepancy and only 1 test a year is played in Sydney, where Patterson scored 455 runs @ 56.8 So yes I see an inflated average. But this year Patterson is scoring away from home with the century in Perth being his best to date, so though I don't think Patterson is ready just yet, he has definitely improved and maybe next year if this form continues he is worthy of being potentially selected. Lets have an honest look at Patterson say against SA away from home last 3 years 0, 7, 14, 0, 17, 12 (total 50 runs @8.3) Outstanding I'll be generous and look at WA since he just scored a century there. 24, 16, 8, 39, (av was 21) then scored 107, 43 lifting his av to 40 so yes that is moving in the right direction But in all honesty he has played OK against the Vics scoring 61, 43, 53, 63 and 53 a lot of good starts but where are the 100's I do remember at the Gabba a few years ago he did score a 111, the reason I remember that game is Joe Burns MURDERED Starc and Hazlewood scoring 160 for the game. But maybe you're right this discrepancy doesn't affect all players in NSW, Let's have a look at this year Hughes Home av 71 Away 18 Larkin Home av 62.5 Away 30 Henriques Home av 55.4 Away 22.5 Sangha Home av 53 Away 9 Edwards Home av 35 Away 21 Nevill Home av 32 Away 18 Does anyone else see a discrepancy between home and away, because my "bias" may be clouding my judgement? Post all state players Mike. Instead of targeting only those from the state you clearly detest. Then we will get the full story. I would a have notioned that home ground advantage was just that.. so home scores would be superior to away. I may be wrong. So prove me wrong mr stats man. I can't be bothered doing all states but I'll do Qld which is representative of the other 5 states, you'll just have to take my word on that Burns Home 44 Away 41 Renshaw Home 32 Away 12 (He is horribly out of form) Hemphrey Home 30 Away 24 Heazlett Home 9 Away 32 Labuschagne Home 27 Away 31 Wildermuth Home 15 Away 26 Peirson Home 33 Away 27.5 See the averages Home against away are a lot closer and in some cases they're better away from home than at home. Which is exactly what you expect it looks like a weird reason to exclude him based on low statistics that was only true a season ago. Nothing wrong with the scg or runs scored there. If we had 30 players averaging 40+ then we can nitpick like that but for mine he's earned his placed p.s. go rain :D Radar still showing plenty of rain heading for Melbourne this arvo. perhaps a little late though in this source https://weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/l/15746:25:ASdo you have another source with better news? Also there is a pollen warning. Can you pause a test for pollen? Some one could be allergic you know.... http://www.weatherzone.com.au/radar/vic/melbourne/128km
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+xso what has changed uniquely in australia that our batting has fallen so much? I heard we have a few less 1st class matches per year You talking about the Shield? You have lost track living overseas grazor. Still 10. There will be a national outcry if they ever reduce them. They have cut the domestic limited overs matches. But who cares about that?
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6 centuries and 26 50s from 103 innings is bang on average for an average player averaging 41
Maxwell with a near identical average has 7 centuries and 21 50s from 104 innings.
There is also 5 years between the two. Lets invest in the younger man as we are certain to get a better return from him in the longer term. There is talk to return Labu.. with his @33 average. Could this be as they view his bowling useful for Sydney. Will someone inform CA that the SCG is no longer a spinning paradise.
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