Ist Test Aus v Sri Lanka


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I'm assuming this Test is in Brisbane?
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why labu over puckovski? :(
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grazorblade - 24 Jan 2019 2:10 AM
why labu over puckovski? :(

Because it is the right decision.
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grazorblade - 24 Jan 2019 2:10 AM
why labu over puckovski? :(

I too would have bitten the bullet and tossed the kid into the cauldron. 

Burns is the lucky one. I suppose his decent Shield record got him there.. as it should. But the pressure is well and truly on him now to perform against the new ball. Perform or perish with Renshaw breathing down his neck.
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Decentric - 23 Jan 2019 11:58 PM
I'm assuming this Test is in Brisbane?

No DC  the match has been moved to Bellerive just so you can see it live.:P
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Can Australia salvage some pride after the shellacking we took from India? A good start has been made with two of three squad members debuting. Would also have liked to see the baby of the squad..Will Pucovski make his debut. If you are going to bring someone into the cauldron of Test cricket what better time than against an opposition that is no longer strong without their retired greats.
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baggygreenmania - 24 Jan 2019 9:30 AM
Can Australia salvage some pride after the shellacking we took from India? A good start has been made with two of three squad members debuting. Would also have liked to see the baby of the squad..Will Pucovski make his debut. If you are going to bring someone into the cauldron of Test cricket what better time than against an opposition that is no longer strong without their retired greats.

A better time would be not dropping him into this negative and shambolic Australian team. I'd wait till Smith comes back so we don't actively need to rely on him and heap pressure onto him.
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A better time would be not dropping him into this negative and shambolic Australian team. I'd wait till Smith comes back so we don't actively need to rely on him and heap pressure onto him.

Fair point.
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A better time would be not dropping him into this negative and shambolic Australian team. I'd wait till Smith comes back so we don't actively need to rely on him and heap pressure onto him.

I disagree after seeing him bat at Bellerive, live.

Apart from playing short balls, he is currently the most assured batter we have.

I think we should  play Puck against an attack he looked composed in his second innings and against a team he has already played against.
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Toss coming up. Pitch whisperer Phil Tuffnell?  says "win toss and bat.. this is a belter"

I want Paine to send the Lankans in as we want first use of the swinging dusk conditions when the pink ball suddenly starts hooping. Add the movement in the air to the pace and bounce in the pitch and we can put this rather inexperienced Lankans outfit under immense pressure. I also wanna see our quicks hammer them with the short ball in the first session. Ruffle their feathers as tho to say "welcome to Australia. we are not going to allow you to win your first match let alone your first series on our soil".
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baggygreenmania - 24 Jan 2019 1:26 PM
Toss coming up. Pitch whisperer Phil Tuffnell?  says "win toss and bat.. this is a belter"

I want Paine to send the Lankans in as we want first use of the swinging dusk conditions when the pink ball suddenly starts hooping. Add the movement in the air to the pace and bounce in the pitch and we can put this rather inexperienced Lankans outfit under immense pressure. I also wanna see our quicks hammer them with the short ball in the first session. Ruffle their feathers as tho to say "welcome to Australia. we are not going to allow you to win your first match let alone your first series on our soil".

Mike Hussey hands Patterson his BaggyGreen.. while Fleming does likewise to Jhye Richardson.

Paine loses yet another toss. Chandimal batting first. 
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baggygreenmania - 24 Jan 2019 1:34 PM
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Mike Hussey hands Patterson his BaggyGreen.. while Fleming does likewise to Jhye Richardson.

Paine loses yet another toss. Chandimal batting first. 

I have often wondered why QLD does not have daylite saving? 

As I see it Starc is the quick under the most pressure. He was moderate at best in India series.. Needs a turn around in form to be ensured a plane seat to England.
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Sri Lanka will bat first
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Im so sick of people calling Burns "lucky" or "under pressure". Hes the form opener in the country and if anything its taken too long for him to be selected (should have opened instead of Finch and arguably been picked ahead of Harris). Hes average 52 in the last year and a half of shield and high forties for the last 3 seasons. On sheild form hes one of the first names in the side at the moment. Hes also one of the few batsmen in the team with a career FC over 40

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RedKat - 24 Jan 2019 1:57 PM
Im so sick of people calling Burns "lucky" or "under pressure". Hes the form opener in the country and if anything its taken too long for him to be selected (should have opened instead of Finch and arguably been picked ahead of Harris). Hes average 52 in the last year and a half of shield and high forties for the last 3 seasons. On sheild form hes one of the first names in the side at the moment

I am one of those saying Joe is under pressure. I also said he deserved his recall as Shield form should be rewarded. The reason I see him under pressure is his loose technique against the moving new ball. I do not think he is an opener. Prefer he batted #5 or #6.
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RedKat - 24 Jan 2019 1:57 PM
Im so sick of people calling Burns "lucky" or "under pressure". Hes the form opener in the country and if anything its taken too long for him to be selected (should have opened instead of Finch and arguably been picked ahead of Harris). Hes average 52 in the last year and a half of shield and high forties for the last 3 seasons. On sheild form hes one of the first names in the side at the moment. Hes also one of the few batsmen in the team with a career FC over 40

Having just seen him fail at Bellerive, live, in two successive innings on a pitch which Patterson made look benign, I can't agree with you, Red Kat.

Plenty of balls beat his outside edge too in both innings.
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Decentric - 24 Jan 2019 2:25 PM
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Having just seen him fail at Bellerive, live, in two successive innings on a pitch which Patterson made look benign, I can't agree with you, Red Kat.

Plenty of balls beat his outside edge too in both innings.

Lucky people don't determine form or pick players based on 1 test.
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How thrilled would Richardson be feeling opening the attack for his country on his debut. 
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baggygreenmania - 24 Jan 2019 2:10 PM
How thrilled would Richardson be feeling opening the attack for his country on his debut. 

I'm disappointed in his pace, Baggers.

A few balls haven't been recorded on the speed gun, but Richardson has only bowled 134 - 137 kph. I've seen him recorded at 140 kph in Mickey Mouse cricket.

We could have had Meredith bowling outswingers at 10 kph faster!

Notwithstanding, his outswingers look very good with the new ball. It will be interesting to see how Richardson bowls with an older ball.
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Decentric - 24 Jan 2019 2:22 PM
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I'm disappointed in his pace, Baggers.

A few balls haven't been recorded on the speed gun, but Richardson has only bowled 134 - 137 kph. I've seen him recorded at 140 kph in Mickey Mouse cricket.

We could have had Meredith bowling outswingers at 10 kph faster!

Notwithstanding, his outswingers look very good with the new ball. It will be interesting to see how Richardson bowls with an older ball.

He just bowled one at 139 kph.
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Decentric - 24 Jan 2019 2:26 PM
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He just bowled one at 139 kph.

He has the ability to crank it even faster DC. Perhaps just settling into his spell mate. 
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baggygreenmania - 24 Jan 2019 2:32 PM
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He has the ability to crank it even faster DC. Perhaps just settling into his spell mate. 

I'm not sure he has that capacity, Baggers.

The only ones in Austrlaia who do are Starc, Meredith  and Stanlake. The latter can  bowl more than a few overs in Mickey Mouse cricket though.

I think it is a case that the selectors haven't seen enough of  Meredith in the last few weeks.

Others are mooted because of their  figures a lot, which carry weighting. However, I've seen some prospective players live in the last few weeks, and class ( supported by experts) can be identified. 

Pucoski, Meredith and Michael Neser have more ability than some players with better figures achieved at a lower level - Sheffield Shield. For mine all should be in this  Test team.

For the record I'd have Richardson instead of Hazlewood anyway, given the latter's poor Test figures over the last year.

 Good on the West Aussie for taking a wicket!
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Cummins get the break through. What a special player hes becoming

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RedKat - 24 Jan 2019 2:53 PM
Cummins get the break through. What a special player hes becoming

Yes and Starc continues going backwards. Is this third Test on the trot where he has failed to take a wicket in his opening spell?
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Yes and Starc continues going backwards. Is this third Test on the trot where he has failed to take a wicket in his opening spell?

Tim Paine hinted that Australia wouldn't hold back on the bouncer with his view that it was underused against India. 

Not seen any where near a bouncer barrage so far. 
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Nice edge Cummins!

Sri Lanka 1-27.
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Go Richardson, his first test wicket!

Sri Lanka are 2-31.


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I really dont get this...

Ball less that 15 overs old and Lyon having to bowl...

Starc and Cummins have only done 4 overs...



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Paddles - 24 Jan 2019 3:19 PM
I really dont get this...

Ball less that 15 overs old and Lyon having to bowl...

Starc and Cummins have only done 4 overs...



This is one aspect where I have a problem with Tim. Gets the spinner on too early. The quicks are going well. Ball is still hard. Bowl em.
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baggygreenmania - 24 Jan 2019 3:22 PM
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This is one aspect where I have a problem with Tim. Gets the spinner on too early. The quicks are going well. Ball is still hard. Bowl em.

Yeah - Lyon may be much better than Ajaz Patel - but its the quicks that carved them in NZ, not the spinner. These guys do play spin well enough on day 1...
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Paddles - 24 Jan 2019 3:32 PM
baggygreenmania - 24 Jan 2019 3:22 PM

Yeah - Lyon may be much better than Ajaz Patel - but its the quicks that carved them in NZ, not the spinner. These guys do play spin well enough on day 1...

Have you got a series scorecard  handy Paddles.
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baggygreenmania - 24 Jan 2019 4:03 PM
Paddles - 24 Jan 2019 3:32 PM

Have you got a series scorecard  handy Paddles.
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Angelo Mathews broke himself trying to save Sri Lanka... They really struggle with swing - they played Wagner's bouncers well enough till the final innings of the series. They they just gave in without Mathews.
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https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-series/2739/sri-lanka-tour-of-new-zealand-2018-19/stats#/?statsType=mostRuns&seriesType=bilateral&seriesId=2739&matchTypeId=1&seriesTeam1=5&seriesTeam2=13

Angelo Mathews broke himself trying to save Sri Lanka... They really struggle with swing - they played Wagner's bouncers well enough till the final innings of the series. They they just gave in without Mathews.

thanks.
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In the last 5 tests Sri Lanka have played abroad against Windies and Kiwis, they’ve only averaged 210 in the first innings of games.
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Karuna gifts Lyon a wicket. Or did I read that one incorrectly?

Good snaffle all the same by Tim.
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alright richardson!
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grazorblade - 24 Jan 2019 4:24 PM
alright richardson!

Very skillful bowler this kid.
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baggygreenmania - 24 Jan 2019 4:35 PM
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Very skillful bowler this kid.

Got Kohli in all 3 ODIs. 

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RedKat - 24 Jan 2019 4:53 PM
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Got Kohli in all 3 ODIs. 

Richardson has learnt his trade well. Reason he should be on the plane to England is he has already performed well there.
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Hes got the big one too

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Tremain for Starc might not be a bad choice too. Really keep our bowlers on their toes and fighting for places
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City Sam - 24 Jan 2019 4:37 PM
Tremain for Starc might not be a bad choice too. Really keep our bowlers on their toes and fighting for places

better to have berendorff so you get the footprints
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grazorblade - 24 Jan 2019 5:32 PM
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better to have berendorff so you get the footprints

Cummins bowls round the stumps  a lot. I would have Behrendorff in a flash but will his back stand five day cricket?
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Cummins bowls round the stumps  a lot. I would have Behrendorff in a flash but will his back stand five day cricket?

Cummo has upped his pace this spell and now joins in the wicket taking spree.
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Beauty of a delivery, 3 for Richardson
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Looks like we'll be in after dinner for a good 15-20 overs at this rate.
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Pereira retired hurt, that looked nasty
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City Sam - 24 Jan 2019 5:50 PM
Pereira retired hurt, that looked nasty

A brute of a delivery. Just out of the reach of short leg too.
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baggygreenmania - 24 Jan 2019 5:54 PM
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A brute of a delivery. Just out of the reach of short leg too.

Starc our best tail mopper upper bags his 200th.
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baggygreenmania - 24 Jan 2019 6:00 PM
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Starc our best tail mopper upper bags his 200th.

lol
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Starc our best tail mopper upper bags his 200th.

This is going to backfire on us as we are going to be batting during the nite session.
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This is going to backfire on us as we are going to be batting during the nite session.

Yep if we aren't careful we could be in a bit of trouble ourselves.
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starc with the second best strike rate ever for ozzies with 200+ wickets
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144 all out. Good bowling effort but batting will be tough

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144 must be the lowest total we’ve bowled a team out for some time.
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I think it was Lakmal, but he had it all over Burns and Renshaw in Hobart last week.
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First ball recorded Kunara bowled 142 kph, with the second at 141kph.

Apart from Meredith, this guy is the quickest I’ve seen live in Long form cricket live at Bellerive.
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Lakmal is getting a lot of outswing to a right hander.
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Beautiful ball from Lakmal to Burns as he missed the outside edge.

For those adamant Burns should be in the team, we saw a lot of this in Hobart last week.
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Decentric - 24 Jan 2019 7:52 PM
Beautiful ball from Lakmal to Burns as he missed the outside edge. For those adamant Burns should be in the team, we saw a lot of this in Hobart last week.

He deserved his spot on his Shield form but he just does not convince me. To be fair he did get a good ball.  
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baggygreenmania - 24 Jan 2019 9:43 PM
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He deserved his spot on his Shield form but he just does not convince me. To be fair he did get a good ball.  

After  a dodgy start I thought he was just starting to settle down in when he was out.

Given what I saw in Hobart, I think Usman and Harris are the best  current opening combination. Puck to bat further down.
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Outside Starc, Kumara is quicker than any of the other Aussie bowlers playing Test cricket this season.
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Burns looks out of form against both Lakmal and Kumara, as he was in Hobart.

I expect he will be dismissed soon.
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Shot Burns!

Nice pull for 4 off 147kph short ball from Kumara!

Same result again from another 146kph short ball!
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Wow!

We’ve been lucky in terms of balls beating the bat, hitting the pads and going past outside edges.
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Decentric - 24 Jan 2019 8:07 PM
Wow! We’ve been lucky in terms of balls beating the bat, hitting the pads and going past outside edges.

Correct. The Lankans had the ball doing some tricks in the twilite.
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baggygreenmania - 24 Jan 2019 10:00 PM
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Correct. The Lankans had the ball doing some tricks in the twilite.

Pacheera ( ?) bowled with some heat and Lakmal really made the ball swing at 130 kph.

I thought  Usman got out from poor shot selection and loss of concentration   - again.
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Given they're are quite a few cricketers on here I thought  I would've  been taken to task about complaining about Cummins' decline in pace.

What I think has  happened is that he may be able to bowl within himself, with a decreased risk of injury, and with greater control, bowling 135- 143 kph. His figures have been exceptional over the last year.

What I notice in his action is his right arm comes high over the wicket in a lovely follow through that follows  a right handed batter's line. Cummins is making them play so many balls.

He does not have the prodigious swing  of some bowlers, but by being so accurate in line and making the batters play so many balls, he must be increasing his chances of getting a wicket. Cummins probably doesn't do this by bowling 140 - 150kph. 

I'd surmise he bowls a higher percentage of balls that force  batters to play than Hazlewood, and Starc in particular. I surmise he has been influenced by the likes of McGrath, Lillee, Hadlee and Gillespie, who were effective late in their careers at reduced speed. 

Richardson has bowled better in this innings than Hazlewood has for some time. He has also made the batters play more balls than Starc. I would've dropped Hazlewood anyway. I think selectors too often play names.

Many years ago the big name and star of the Aus bowling attack, Geoff Lawson, was underperforming. It took ages for the selectors to drop him and he was hopping mad when they finally did. He faded quickly after that.

I think the coaches should look at data and work out how many balls are being played from deliveries sent down, strike rates compared to 6 months ago, quality of the opposition, etcetera. If they did, surely they would've acted more quickly than they have?

A joke in cricket circles is that Greg Chappell, the selector, is so arrogant, he already knows the  answers without looking at players perform!
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Decentric - 25 Jan 2019 1:42 AM
Given they're are quite a few cricketers on here I thought  I would've  been taken to task about complaining about Cummins' decline in pace.

What I think has  happened is that he may be able to bowl within himself, with a decreased risk of injury, and with greater control, bowling 135- 143 kph. His figures have been exceptional over the last year.

What I notice in his action is his right arm comes high over the wicket in a lovely follow through that follows  a right handed batter's line. Cummins is making them play so many balls.

He does not have the prodigious swing  of some bowlers, but by being so accurate in line and making the batters play so many balls, he must be increasing his chances of getting a wicket. Cummins probably doesn't do this by bowling 140 - 150kph. 

I'd surmise he bowls a higher percentage of balls that force  batters to play than Hazlewood, and Starc in particular. I surmise he has been influenced by the likes of McGrath, Lillee, Hadlee and Gillespie, who were effective late in their careers at reduced speed. 

Richardson has bowled better in this innings than Hazlewood has for some time. He has also made the batters play more balls than Starc. I would've dropped Hazlewood anyway. I think selectors too often play names.

Many years ago the big name and star of the Aus bowling attack, Geoff Lawson, was underperforming. It took ages for the selectors to drop him and he was hopping mad when they finally did. He faded quickly after that.

I think the coaches should look at data and work out how many balls are being played from deliveries sent down, strike rates compared to 6 months ago, quality of the opposition, etcetera. If they did, surely they would've acted more quickly than they have?

A joke in cricket circles is that Greg Chappell, the selector, is so arrogant, he already knows the  answers without looking at players perform!

I don't ever recall Henry as a star.

Reid - sure. Billy - yes. Merv had fan support. Alderman the 89 Ashes. But Henry? He was more like Whitney and Dodemaide...
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some talk of dropping starc rather than hazelwood

would go berendorf for starc if anyone

he's out of form but hard to drop a player who's strike rate is the second best ever
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grazorblade - 25 Jan 2019 7:21 AM
some talk of dropping starc rather than hazelwood

would go berendorf for starc if anyone

he's out of form but hard to drop a player who's strike rate is the second best ever

Richardson showed Hazlewood up big time as an actual swing bowler.
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City Sam - 25 Jan 2019 10:02 AM
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Richardson showed Hazlewood up big time as an actual swing bowler.

more a like for like replacement

my main concern with richardson is I think he can be knocked off his game easily if he goes for runs. When he is confident he can be pretty lethal

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City Sam - 25 Jan 2019 10:02 AM
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Richardson showed Hazlewood up big time as an actual swing bowler.

Hazlewood is not a swing bowler.. he is a specialist seam bowler. Chalk and cheese.

I would be saying Richardson showed up Starc..  those two are more similar.
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Richardson has bowled better in this innings than Hazlewood has for some time. He has also made the batters play more balls than Starc. I would've dropped Hazlewood anyway. I think selectors too often play names. 

I agree with most of what you say DC but too soon to compare the respective merits of Richardson  over Hazlewood. For a start they are completely different bowlers. Hazlewood is the quintessential seam bowler.. relying on his wrist action to stand up the seam and move it laterally. That is his stock ball.. must bowl it at least 90% of all his deliveries. Richardson looks to be a more rounded bowler. Swing comes easily to him. He also looks to be able to seam the ball. He has good variety.. with the odd yorker thrown in. He says he has based his game on one of his role models.. Dayle Steyn. I can see it. They are of similar build, a whippy action, similar pace and can swing at will. If you wanna compare Haze to someone.. make it Cummins.  Since cutting his pace Cummo is now more a line and length merchant like his good Blues bowling mate. I have to say he is bowling better than Haze and is now close to being our best  elite bowler. I would still challenge you over who of the two makes the batsman play the most. If I was dropping one of our top three it would be Starc. Is it set in stone that we need a left armer in our attack?

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baggygreenmania - 25 Jan 2019 10:32 AM
Richardson has bowled better in this innings than Hazlewood has for some time. He has also made the batters play more balls than Starc. I would've dropped Hazlewood anyway. I think selectors too often play names. 

I agree with most of what you say DC but too soon to compare the respective merits of Richardson  over Hazlewood. For a start they are completely different bowlers. Hazlewood is the quintessential seam bowler.. relying on his wrist action to stand up the seam and move it laterally. That is his stock ball.. must bowl it at least 90% of all his deliveries. Richardson looks to be a more rounded bowler. Swing comes easily to him. He also looks to be able to seam the ball. He has good variety.. with the odd yorker thrown in. He says he has based his game on one of his role models.. Dayle Steyn. I can see it. They are of similar build, a whippy action, similar pace and can swing at will. If you wanna compare Haze to someone.. make it Cummins.  Since cutting his pace Cummo is now more a line and length merchant like his good Blues bowling mate. I have to say he is bowling better than Haze and is now close to being our best  elite bowler. I would still challenge you over who of the two makes the batsman play the most. If I was dropping one of our top three it would be Starc. Is it set in stone that we need a left armer in our attack?

Brilliant post, Baggers!

I love technical detail.

I like Starc's different angle and the fact he gets the ball to move at times at great pace.
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Brilliant post, Baggers!

I love technical detail.

I like Starc's different angle and the fact he gets the ball to move at times at great pace.

This is why I like a left hand bowler in the side = totally different dimension to a right hander.
On Cummins, what does he have to do to become a genuine all rounder? & how would that change the batting lineup.
I still don't know why we are playing Sri Lanka in a test - to use some one elses terminology it is really a mickey mouse test
and to me should not be rated as such as it will inflate averages. 
As for Burns, on current form he should not be playing, if you can't score against this lot, good ball or not - drop him
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Brilliant post, Baggers!

I love technical detail.

I like Starc's different angle and the fact he gets the ball to move at times at great pace.

Thanks for compliment DC. 

Starc is the jekyll and hyde of the cricket world. When on song he can swing the new ball fast full and late like few in the game. He has the pace and statue to steeple a ball just short of full length and all but behead a batsman. His round the wicket attack on the tail is the best in the game. That is his jekyll. Few misdirect deliveries and waste the new ball as Starc does. He can not build pressure for any length of time as his waywardness gifts too many easy runs. He seems to lack intensity when it is most needed. He is painfully short of consistency. That is his mr hyde side. Congrats on his 200 wicket milestone. Few realise it has taken him since 2011 to achieve this. That is 49 matches in 8 yrs. He has been in and out of our test side like a yo yo. 
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This is why I like a left hand bowler in the side = totally different dimension to a right hander.

That may have been the case once. These days many right armers bowl around the wicket specially to lefties..similar line similar angle as a left armer. Kinda negates the need for a left armer imo.

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baggygreenmania - 25 Jan 2019 1:12 PM
This is why I like a left hand bowler in the side = totally different dimension to a right hander.

That may have been the case once. These days many right armers bowl around the wicket specially to lefties..similar line similar angle as a left armer. Kinda negates the need for a left armer imo.

Don't quite agree as a leftie, especially bowling around the wicket delivers the ball from a totally 
different angle - This is why I like Starc.
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The selectors need to have a criteria and stick to it. No one under @40FC average that has been built over several years not one. If they do not have a skills coach they should get one. A person who can identify whether a Test aspirant has the technique and temperament to stand up to Test cricket. That aspirant has to prove that he is going to put a price on his wicket with determination and patience. That he will treat every ball on its merits. Above all leave the good ball. Be compact in attack and defence. Defend under the eyeline. Use soft hands.  Use your feet when driving. Against spin use all the crease and make an effort to rotate the strike. If we could get six blokes with those attributes plus our famed Aussie spirit we could return to our glory days.
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Just what I was saying about Harris. Flashings at ball he should be leaving.

This recklessness has almost reached epidemic proportions at the moment.

The Poms must have played some poor shots.. Windies have rolled them for 77 overnite in Barbados.
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baggygreenmania - 25 Jan 2019 2:02 PM
Just what I was saying about Harris. Flashings at ball he should be leaving.

This recklessness has almost reached epidemic proportions at the moment.

The Poms must have played some poor shots.. Windies have rolled them for 77 overnite in Barbados.

Flashes at this one connects and is out. Bloody awful patience.
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Flashes at this one connects and is out. Bloody awful patience.



Do you think it is due to a collective loss of confidence after a morale sapping series defeat to India, Baggers?
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Do you think it is due to a collective loss of confidence after a morale sapping series defeat to India, Baggers?

DC could be. I tend to aim towards lack of temperament and too much T20 cricket. Now our blokes are going to be warming up for the  Ashes with a smorgasbord of pyjama cricket.
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DC could be. I tend to aim towards lack of temperament and too much T20 cricket. Now our blokes are going to be warming up for the  Ashes with a smorgasbord of pyjama cricket.

Head doing his best to follow Harris.

What is point of having a batting coach.. he is a waste of space?
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Harris wasting another start 

ARNIE= LEGEND

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Marnus' test start is exactly how not to deal with a new player. This is his 5th test, and 7th inning. In this time hes batted at 3,5,6 and 7 and batted at 5 and 6 twice. He would also have batted 4 if not for the night watchman

ARNIE= LEGEND

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RedKat - 25 Jan 2019 2:13 PM
Marnus' test start is exactly how not to deal with a new player. This is his 5th test, and 7th inning. In this time hes batted at 3,5,6 and 7 and batted at 5 and 6 twice. He would also have batted 4 if not for the night watchman

Do you think it makes a massive difference where they bat in the order, Red Kat?
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From watching the game live, I find the pink ball used in day/night games is much easier to see in daylight. Most  agree at the TCA.

Is anyone else watching any cricket live?

If you do, what do you think about the pink ball being easier to see?
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Labu had one good innings in Hobart and failed in the other.


He has faced 16 balls and hasn't yet scored a run.
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Australia is struggling at 4-86.
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Who is the current batting coach?
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Brew - 25 Jan 2019 3:26 PM
Who is the current batting coach?

The Zimbo/Pom ..forgotten his name for moment.
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baggygreenmania - 25 Jan 2019 3:47 PM
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The Zimbo/Pom ..forgotten his name for moment.

Something amiss if we do not get at least a 100 lead from here. Plenty of batting to come. Richardson is nowhere near a true #11.
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I think Graham Hick is Aussie batting coach.
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Decentric - 25 Jan 2019 4:26 PM
I think Graham Hick is Aussie batting coach.

thats the name I was groping for.

Labu with his first Test tone.. a 110+ partnership. Still not sold on Head for England.. you DC?
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How has Ian Healey weaseled his way into Fox commentary...

I thought we'd finally got rid of him...
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I’ve just been out for a while and Oz have progressed to 4-163, with Labu NO 39 and Head NO 30!
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Decentric - 25 Jan 2019 4:33 PM
I’ve just been out for a while and Oz have progressed to 4-163, with Labu NO 39 and Head NO 30!

Head dropped by the keeper - absolute sitter.

Lasagna looking good though.
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Head bring dropped isn’t good.
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Head dropped by the keeper - absolute sitter.

Lasagna looking good though.

lasagne..haha. 

He is starting to look like a Test batsman. Second 50 in two games.
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Hopefully, our batters can bat for once without scoreboard pressure at 4-180 ATM.
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We’ve just had a century partnership!

When was the last time it occurred?
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Good on Labu making his first fifty.

Now Australia at 4-193 are increasing the lead.
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Baggers

Head has one of the best records in Tests for us this summer.

I’m not sure who is in the ranks to replace him?
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Decentric - 25 Jan 2019 5:22 PM
BaggersHead has one of the best records in Tests for us this summer. I’m not sure who is in the ranks to replace him?

That is not very hi praise DC given his opposition. 

He looks too vulnerable against the moving ball. I want him no where near Jimmy Anderson.
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That was a decent off drive from Labu!
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Decentric - 25 Jan 2019 5:27 PM
That was a decent off drive from Labu!

Yeah - his bowling is horrid outside dustbowls. But he seems to have all the fundamentals of a test batsman...
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Labu’s bowling was better in Hobart. For once Bellerive took a bit of spin in the third day.

He bowled a few flippers that nearly took wickets.
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Decentric - 25 Jan 2019 6:02 PM
PaddlesLabu’s bowling was better in Hobart. For once Bellerive took a bit of spin in the third day. He bowled a few flippers that nearly took wickets.

His bowling average will explode higher in tests. I'm calling it now.

But can he make himself into the next Steve Smudger?
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The difference in quality between India and Sri Lanka is massive. Even in the fielding department now
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Marnus goes for 81. Superb knock from him. Someone whos inclusion I doubt but he played a beauty. Some consolation for missing out on a deserved 100 is he probably played himself into the Ashes

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RedKat - 25 Jan 2019 6:12 PM
Marnus goes for 81. Superb knock from him. Someone whos inclusion I doubt but he played a beauty. Some consolation for missing out on a deserved 100 is he probably played himself into the Ashes

He played very well...



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RedKat - 25 Jan 2019 6:12 PM
Marnus goes for 81. Superb knock from him. Someone whos inclusion I doubt but he played a beauty. Some consolation for missing out on a deserved 100 is he probably played himself into the Ashes

Looks a Test batsman now. 
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Gutted for Marnus there.

Ball 78 overs old - near tea...

Debutante will face swing challenge...
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SL need to be smart here.

Save the new ball until lights are on.
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Dumb by Lakmal here - too enthusiastic... this si why bowlers are not often wanted as captain...

Even if they get wickets - this is against the odds...
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Missed Labu’s dismissal, but it must be one of Aus’s best innings for some time.
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Decentric - 25 Jan 2019 6:22 PM
Missed Labu’s dismissal, but it must be one of Aus’s best innings for some time.

Gentle pop up - lapse of concentration... and odd field placement... NZ love that skinny field position too...
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Love Kerry O'Keefe - just so analytical and so honest...

He is the media type Aus cricket needs more of. 

Heck - global cricket needs more of.
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Well that’s unfortunate. Head gets out and Paine out the next ball

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RedKat - 25 Jan 2019 7:50 PM
Well that’s unfortunate. Head gets out and Paine out the next ball

Twilite swing contributed to both dismissals.
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baggygreenmania - 25 Jan 2019 8:02 PM
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Twilite swing contributed to both dismissals.

Head was far more disciplined after that life. Showed good maturity. 

That is Tim's only failure of the summer.

Still a century avades us. 
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Paine has averaged 21.75 this summer and 22 if you include the Pakistan tour aswell.
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City Sam - 25 Jan 2019 7:50 PM
Paine has averaged 21.75 this summer and 22 if you include the Pakistan tour aswell.

Isnt it more like in the mid 30s?
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baggygreenmania - 25 Jan 2019 8:05 PM
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Isnt it more like in the mid 30s?

No
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City Sam - 25 Jan 2019 8:06 PM
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No

Last 7 matches*, 0, 5, 22, 26, 38, 37, 5, 41, 3, 0, 7, 61* 

And 21 average in 3 first class matches in between that time. His batting is becoming a liability on this team, if he has a poor ashes his spot really shouldn't be secure.
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A keeper’s principal job is to keep wickets.
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Decentric - 25 Jan 2019 8:15 PM
City Sam A keeper’s principal job is to keep wickets.

Maybe in times gone past, but it has been a long time since a keeper has been selected inspite of batting ability. Dickwella, De kock, Bairstow, Watling, Sarfaz, Rahim are all really strong batsmen.

Saha is really the only not top quality batsmen but he can be carried by India's strong batting lineup. And even then i don't think Paine is as good as a keeper as Saha or even Watling.

He is hardly invaluable.
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Maybe in times gone past, but it has been a long time since a keeper has been selected inspite of batting ability. Dickwella, De kock, Bairstow, Watling, Sarfaz, Rahim are all really strong batsmen.

Saha is really the only not top quality batsmen but he can be carried by India's strong batting lineup. And even then i don't think Paine is as good as a keeper as Saha or even Watling.

He is hardly invaluable.

Bairstow is now playing as a specialist batsman, Foakes is their wicketkeeper and is batting 8 in the current test side which just got bowled out for 77 by the West Indies. Their side is Burns, Jennings, Bairstow, Root, Stokes, Butler, Ali, Foakes, Curran, Rashid, Andersen. 

Test match averages of wicketkeepers
Bairstow 41.35 when keeping.
Foakes 69.25 from 3 matches
de Kock 38.81 when keeping
Saha 30.63
Watling 39.77 when keeping
Sarfaz 36.39
Paine 34.77
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Interesting batting stats for keepers.

Thanks for posting!
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I’m a big fan of Patterson after seeing him bat last week.
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Decentric - 25 Jan 2019 9:03 PM
Test Fan Interesting batting stats for keepers.Thanks for posting!

I missed Dickwella who averages 30.55
For completeness Bangladesh have
Rahim 37.54 when keeping
India's Pant 49.71

Interestingly all of those who I have noted when keeping have played as specialist batsmen but have higher averages when keeping. de Kock has only 1 test as a specialist batsman but it still brings his overall average down slightly. Bairstow only averages 28.9 as a specialist batsman. 

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Last 7 matches*, 0, 5, 22, 26, 38, 37, 5, 41, 3, 0, 7, 61* 

And 21 average in 3 first class matches in between that time. His batting is becoming a liability on this team, if he has a poor ashes his spot really shouldn't be secure.

He is our best keeper.. that is and should be the priority for Test selection. Runs are a bonus. He has played some vital innings among those numbers. 
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Paine was dropped from the Tassie Shield team for being out of form with the bat.
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It looked like Paine got a jaffa!
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Hopefully we can squeeze out at least 50 more runs
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Interesting seeing Patterson with a strike rate of circa 20.

It was about 70 v Sri Lanka in Hobart last week. He scored quickly.
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I’m surprised to see Patterson so circumspect under lights when he handled these bowlers with ease in daylight at Bellerive a week ago.
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Decentric - 25 Jan 2019 8:14 PM
I’m surprised to see Patterson so circumspect under lights when he handled these bowlers with ease in daylight at Bellerive a week ago.

This pinkie is hooping DC. Circumspect I like. We have a solid lead. Keep our wickets in tact and build on it tomorrow.
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This pinkie is hooping DC. Circumspect I like. We have a solid lead. Keep our wickets in tact and build on it tomorrow.

Now with Cummins gone Patterson may up the ante.

Starc can clatter a few. We bat deep. Richardson can handle a bat.. certainly not a #11.
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Chameera strikes.

Cummins gone.

I hope we make 300 after the great stand from Labu and Head.
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Nice pull and then a good cut from Patterson.

Two boundaries in a row!
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Thankfully we have reached 300 plus thanks to Patterson.
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Patterson looks so comfortable out there. Should definitely be at #4 though hes so evidently a top order bat

I know he'll get out now because I said this

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Well doneLakmal got 5-64.

Patterson made a solid 30.
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Apologies Kurtis. Shouldnt have posted yet

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You gave Patto the kiss of death!
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Decentric - 25 Jan 2019 8:45 PM
Red KatYou gave Patto the kiss of death!

Knew that was happening yet still foolishly posted. 

Great cameo from Starc. A shame Richardson couldnt stick around. Still a lead of 179 is very healthy. Would be great to get one in the few overs tonight though

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Decentric - 25 Jan 2019 8:45 PM
Red KatYou gave Patto the kiss of death!

He sure did. The old fox Lakmal used the swinging conditions expertly. The pinkie just loves the twilite.

Now the Lankans have to face a sticky little period before stumps.
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He sure did. The old fox Lakmal used the swinging conditions expertly. The pinkie just loves the twilite.

Now the Lankans have to face a sticky little period before stumps.

Ripper last ball of the day by Cummins. 
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Pattinson, Tremain and even outsider Dan Worrall are now in the Ashes frame after David Saker hinted that our premier bowling cartel are no longer certainties to tour. 
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Is there a message there. No Starc. Cummo and ET opening. 
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I doubt no Cummins, Baggers.

He has performed!
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I’ve just tuned in.

Good to see Cummins have some deserved rewards!

5-13, are very good figures.
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Decentric - 26 Jan 2019 4:40 PM
I doubt no Cummins, Baggers. He has performed!

You misunderstood DC. I was saying that Paine opted to open the attack without Starc. is that a message?
You keep maintaining Tremain is a "plodder"  Does this speak of plodding. He has earned his chance.
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You keep maintaining Tremain is a "plodder"  Does this speak of plodding. He has earned his chance.
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After seeing him at Bellerive against Tassie and particularly Sri Lanka, yes, Tremain is a plodder.

Lakbal, the Sri Lankan, who bowls 129-130 kph, really swings the ball in comparison.
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Decentric - 27 Jan 2019 1:31 PM
baggygreenmania - 27 Jan 2019 11:14 AM

After seeing him at Bellerive against Tassie and particularly Sri Lanka, yes, Tremain is a plodder.

Lakbal, the Sri Lankan, who bowls 129-130 kph, really swings the ball in comparison.



DC I have seen Tremain's speeds. He regularly averages 135/139kph. That is not plodding speed. You are comparing a bloke who bowls regular pace speed against one who bowls express speed. They are all too rare..not necessarily better. We may have to agree to disagree over this one. Not often we do.  My question is why did CA bring Tremain into this squad and then send him back to other forms. 
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DC I have seen Tremain's speeds. He regularly averages 135/139kph. That is not plodding speed. You are comparing a bloke who bowls regular pace speed against one who bowls express speed. They are all too rare..not necessarily better. We may have to agree to disagree over this one. Not often we do.  My question is why did CA bring Tremain into this squad and then send him back to other forms. 

Wow!

The speed gun doesn't lie.

The SL batters seemed to have a lot of time to play shots against him, and most of his balls hit the middle of the bat. Neser's bowling  caused more hasty and uncomfortable shots.
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Cummins with 5/11 but that didn’t look out

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Baggers, from seeing players perform live, Riley Meredith has far more potential than any of those plodders who have taken a plethora of Shield wickets at a lower level.

5-13 for Cummins is deserved in this game in Brisbane.

At Bellerive last week, Patterson, ,Pucoski, and even Neser, stood out for Aus when viewing live.

Meredith has stood out too!
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I mean Pattinson, Tremain and Worrall, relatively, have looked innocuous, live at Bellerive.

Neser has looked potent too, particularly as an all rounder.
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Richardson has been impressive, makes the ball swing and has been a vast improvement on the current Hazlewood.

If Meredith can sustain his express pace, and 146 kph outswingers, an attack of Lyon, Cummins, Richardson and Meredith (express bowler replacing the inaccurate Starc), backed up by all rounders, Labu and Neser, the attack looks good.
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Last night, Kurtis Patterson looked impressive.

Add Pucowski, and the best Aussie batters from Bellerive, play in the Aussie team.
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Sad to see Kumara out for the series.

He has bowled very fast at times.


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Given the pace of Starc, he is struggling!
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Cummins is so damn good
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He seems to have improved by dropping his pace.
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Brett Lee did a technical review of Cummins now, compared to his debut when he was quicker.
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Amazing!

Did you see Lakmal try to take on Starc at 145kph plus!
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We’ve won a Test!
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Brew - 26 Jan 2019 6:07 PM
We’ve won a Test!

Yeehahh. Our first since when.....?
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Yeehahh. Our first since when.....?

A month ago
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A month ago

Of course third Indian test. Then we went pear shaped. Bloody Melbourne is a jinx match for us. 
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A win by an innings and 40 runs margin to Australia.

Some impressive debuts from Richardson and Patterson.

Great bowling from Cummins, and good batting from Labuschagne and Head.
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We have easily beaten a very weak Sri Lankan team, especially the batting in Australia conditions. Good to see Cummins and Richardson take wickets, however the most telling thing to come out of the test to me is the inability of Starc to take wickets. This is a opportunity to take a lot of wickets cheaply, his failure to do puts a huge question mark over his place in the side for the second test and the Ashes beyond. Time to give Tremain a shot in the second test.
The batting is still a concern but the top 6 does not need to be changed for the 2nd test. For the Ashes there is sure to be changes, perhaps Warner in for Burns and Smith in for Patterson.
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I might be biased, but the last wicket was a superb stumping from Paine.

He is one of the best keepers in the world and emerging as a terrific Test captain, even though he brings on the spinner too early for Baggers’ liking!
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I might be biased, but the last wicket was a superb stumping from Paine. He is one of the best keepers in the world and emerging as a terrific Test captain, even though he brings on the spinner too early for Baggers’ liking!

Gday DC,
Paine will never - never be a good test captain.
He has won against a side that makes test cricket a joke.
My dog Scruf could go out there, captain against Sri Lanka and win.
The sooner Smith qualifies to captain & takes over the sooner we can start winning against quality opposition.
Do agree I think he is a great keeper - just let him keep.
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Gday DC,
Paine will never - never be a good test captain.
He has won against a side that makes test cricket a joke.
My dog Scruf could go out there, captain against Sri Lanka and win.
The sooner Smith qualifies to captain & takes over the sooner we can start winning against quality opposition.
Do agree I think he is a great keeper - just let him keep.

One can only beat the opposition  in front of them.

Robert Craddock wrote an article in the Murdoch press about what a good captain he is.

Smith doesn't have the maturity or body language to take over whilst Paine is doing the job.
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One can only beat the opposition  in front of them.

Robert Craddock wrote an article in the Murdoch press about what a good captain he is.

Smith doesn't have the maturity or body language to take over whilst Paine is doing the job.

DC I read the same article. Expect TF that Robert Craddock knows something about the sport of cricket.. is one of the most respected cricket writers in this country.

Give Tim the job as long as he wants it. I loved Langer's description of him.. the "tuffest pretty boy he has seen". When Smith is again allowed to coach give him the deputy reins and he can watch a true professional at close hand.



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DC I read the same article. Expect TF that Robert Craddock knows something about the sport of cricket.. is one of the most respected cricket writers in this country.

Give Tim the job as long as he wants it. I loved Langer's description of him.. the "tuffest pretty boy he has seen". When Smith is again allowed to coach give him the deputy reins and he can watch a true professional at close hand.



Hmmm. Craddock works for Fox who just spent over a billion dollars buying cricket... they need to sell some Cricket signups to Foxtel somehow...

I think Paine is a good player, and a funny sort who is good for the culture of the team. Tactically - I am undecided as I have not watched enough.

But I was astounded when he brought Lyon on early instead of Cummins with Richardson. Astounded.
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 I disagree about Tremain. He is a plodder. Sri Lanka handled him easily at Bellerive.

 Starc is very fast, with a current loss of radar , but is a threat in comparison.

Some of the blokes on here need to get along to see live cricket. Averages are one thing, but performances against higher level opposition are paramount.

 I still want Pucoski to play in Canberra. He is a class above anyone in the top six ATM, based his performance  on Bellerive against SL. Richardson is undoubtedly good, but Meredith is more lethal with 10 kph more velocity on each ball bowled.

For mine, keep Hazlewood out of the team ATM, as there are better options. Selectors have selected him based on what he was in 2017, not 2018. His strike rate of 72 is ordinary for the whole of 2018.
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Terrific catching from Burns and Patterson too.
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Im not a fan of going for the guy because bowls faster. Give me the guy that bows 130-140 and does gets the ball doing as much as Richardson was getting it to do as opposed to the guy who bowls 150. Furthermore, with the balance of the team we have one bowler that can get a bit wayward in Starc. You really need the other two to have great control and thats that Cummins, Hazlewood and Richardson give. Ive been very impressed with Richardson in the ODI series and now and I definitely think hes a good choice at fourth seamer. If Sayers gets a county deal and does well there I think hes perfectly suited to English conditions and would much rather take him than a 150 tearaway type bowler. 

Youve been very vocal about Pucovski but I dont think its happening. Khawaja is too good a player still to drop and muck up his confidence before the Ashes and if anything he needs to bat and get a good knock. 

Harris, to me, need a big one in Canberra. Hes great at starts but not sure hes got the technique and temprament to make a big ashes knock.

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Im not a fan of going for the guy because bowls faster. Give me the guy that bows 130-140 and does gets the ball doing as much as Richardson was getting it to do as opposed to the guy who bowls 150. Furthermore, with the balance of the team we have one bowler that can get a bit wayward in Starc. You really need the other two to have great control and thats that Cummins, Hazlewood and Richardson give. Ive been very impressed with Richardson in the ODI series and now and I definitely think hes a good choice at fourth seamer. If Sayers gets a county deal and does well there I think hes perfectly suited to English conditions and would much rather take him than a 150 tearaway type bowler. 



I think seeing bowlers live makes the difference.

Everything you say about Richardson makes sense. We have only seen him on one pitch though.

Sayers only bowls 120 kph, even though he has a very economical action. At his slow pace, he has little margin for error in length.
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Youve been very vocal about Pucovski but I dont think its happening. Khawaja is too good a player still to drop and muck up his confidence before the Ashes and if anything he needs to bat and get a good knock. 

Harris, to me, need a big one in Canberra. Hes great at starts but not sure hes got the technique and temprament to make a big ashes knock.

Much more erudite people than me are calling for Pucovski's selection.

He looks very good, better than any other Aussie, apart from playing short pitched balls. Steve Waugh wasn't a good player of short pitched balls either in terms of attacking them.
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Much more erudite people than me are calling for Pucovski's selection.

He looks very good, better than any other Aussie, apart from playing short pitched balls. Steve Waugh wasn't a good player of short pitched balls either in terms of attacking them.

I am with you DC. Pucovski must be blooded in Canberra. The Aussies hold all the momentum after that thrashing.. the Manuka deck is flat and made for a good batsman. perfect place to debut.

For mine Harris has  to prove that he is able to concentrate for more than 40 runs.

No mention of canning Starc and bringing in Tremain. Mr Teflon survives again.

Ussie needs a big score otherwise he could find himself left off the plane to England. 
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Im not a fan of going for the guy because bowls faster. Give me the guy that bows 130-140 and does gets the ball doing as much as Richardson was getting it to do as opposed to the guy who bowls 150. Furthermore, with the balance of the team we have one bowler that can get a bit wayward in Starc. You really need the other two to have great control and thats that Cummins, Hazlewood and Richardson give.

With you RedKat. To me a bloke that builds pressure with nagging areas is a far more vital commodity. That is not to say that an express man such as Meredith  does not have  a place in our attack. He is ideal for extracting something from dead tracks. I am also very impressed with what Richardson brings to the table. He is multi skilled. Swings it, seams it and mixes his varieties cleverly.. and he is not short on pace. Reckon he could be the trump card in England for us. He is in my Ashes X1 for Starc. 
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I so hate it when we purists are denied two days of cricket when there is an early finish. Further pain in the bum for those lucky to purchase tickets. It also denies our blokes vital match practise with still a test to go to round out the summer. What is the answer to appease all.. Play a two dayer between the opposing sides?
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                     Head bring dropped isn’t good.
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             That was a decent off drive from Labu!
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                             City Sam

A keeper’s principal job is to keep wickets.
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                                         Test Fan

Interesting batting stats for...
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                                             Red Kat

I’m a big fan of Patterson after seeing him bat last...
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                 It looked like Paine got a jaffa!
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                 I doubt no Cummins, Baggers.

He has performed!
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                     I’ve just tuned in.

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             Cummins is so damn good
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             We’ve won a Test!
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