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This tour includes the following matches
20/6 1 day game (D/N) vs Northamptonshire
23/6 1 day game vs Derbyshire
29/6 1 day game vs Worcestershire
30/6 - 3/7 4 day game vs Gloucestershire
7/7- 10/7 4 day game vs Sussex
14/7 - 17/7 Somebody is playing the England Lions, their A team in a 4 day game, Not sure why cricinfo has listed as part of the Australia A tour unless Australia A might be playing them. The timing works nicely.
23/7 - 26/7 vs Australia
The One day World Cup runs from 30/5 to 14/7, with Australia's last guaranteed game being on 6/7 so players part of the World Cup squad are not going to be able to be picked in the Australia A team. This might effect players like Richardson, Carey, Maxwell, Handscomb and possibly others.
The first test of the Ashes start on 1/8 so the Aus- A vs Aus game is really close to the first teat. I could perhaps see the Ashes squad being picked after the 4 day game against Sussex as the vast majority of the squad will be with the World Cup squad or the Aus A squad. Then again if the one day team makes the WC final perhaps it would be announced just after that. Paine, Burns, Head and Lyon could be neither squad, maybe Khawaja does not make the WC squad and maybe there will be a fast bowler in the same situation.
With 4 Shield rounds to go and the Shield final these is plenty of time for players to play them into or out of the Australian A team. The selection is also a bit complicated by the 3 one day games at the start of tour. Will there be players selected specifically for these games or will there be players selected in the squad because of their one day ability who also play the 4 day games?
Still at the moment there is a number of players who seem to be very strong chances to make the Australia A tour and perhaps give themselves a shot at the Ashes squad.
Marcus Harris, Matt Renshaw, Will Pucovski and Chris Tremain seem to be the most obvious 4 picked. Other batsmen in contention might be Lehmann, Sangha and maybe the likes of Patterson, Labuschagne, Burns and Head will be put in the squad. Bowlers might be Pattinson, Meredith, Steketee and Worral. Maybe even Hazlewood makes the squad. Not sure who the wicketkeeper might be if Carey makes the WC squad, perhaps Wade or Pierson.
The spinner in the side is very much open, Holland is probably Lyon's number 2 but he surely will not play in the A team. Perhaps Agar or Swepson or Pope will bowl themselves into the A squad in the remaining Shield matches.
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+xThis tour includes the following matches 20/6 1 day game (D/N) vs Northamptonshire 23/6 1 day game vs Derbyshire 29/6 1 day game vs Worcestershire 30/6 - 3/7 4 day game vs Gloucestershire 7/7- 10/7 4 day game vs Sussex 14/7 - 17/7 Somebody is playing the England Lions, their A team in a 4 day game, Not sure why cricinfo has listed as part of the Australia A tour unless Australia A might be playing them. The timing works nicely. 23/7 - 26/7 vs Australia The One day World Cup runs from 30/5 to 14/7, with Australia's last guaranteed game being on 6/7 so players part of the World Cup squad are not going to be able to be picked in the Australia A team. This might effect players like Richardson, Carey, Maxwell, Handscomb and possibly others. The first test of the Ashes start on 1/8 so the Aus- A vs Aus game is really close to the first teat. I could perhaps see the Ashes squad being picked after the 4 day game against Sussex as the vast majority of the squad will be with the World Cup squad or the Aus A squad. Then again if the one day team makes the WC final perhaps it would be announced just after that. Paine, Burns, Head and Lyon could be neither squad, maybe Khawaja does not make the WC squad and maybe there will be a fast bowler in the same situation. With 4 Shield rounds to go and the Shield final these is plenty of time for players to play them into or out of the Australian A team. The selection is also a bit complicated by the 3 one day games at the start of tour. Will there be players selected specifically for these games or will there be players selected in the squad because of their one day ability who also play the 4 day games? Still at the moment there is a number of players who seem to be very strong chances to make the Australia A tour and perhaps give themselves a shot at the Ashes squad. Marcus Harris, Matt Renshaw, Will Pucovski and Chris Tremain seem to be the most obvious 4 picked. Other batsmen in contention might be Lehmann, Sangha and maybe the likes of Patterson, Labuschagne, Burns and Head will be put in the squad. Bowlers might be Pattinson, Meredith, Steketee and Worral. Maybe even Hazlewood makes the squad. Not sure who the wicketkeeper might be if Carey makes the WC squad, perhaps Wade or Pierson. The spinner in the side is very much open, Holland is probably Lyon's number 2 but he surely will not play in the A team. Perhaps Agar or Swepson or Pope will bowl themselves into the A squad in the remaining Shield matches. Thanks for posting this, Test Fan.
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+x+xThis tour includes the following matches 20/6 1 day game (D/N) vs Northamptonshire 23/6 1 day game vs Derbyshire 29/6 1 day game vs Worcestershire 30/6 - 3/7 4 day game vs Gloucestershire 7/7- 10/7 4 day game vs Sussex 14/7 - 17/7 Somebody is playing the England Lions, their A team in a 4 day game, Not sure why cricinfo has listed as part of the Australia A tour unless Australia A might be playing them. The timing works nicely. 23/7 - 26/7 vs Australia The One day World Cup runs from 30/5 to 14/7, with Australia's last guaranteed game being on 6/7 so players part of the World Cup squad are not going to be able to be picked in the Australia A team. This might effect players like Richardson, Carey, Maxwell, Handscomb and possibly others. The first test of the Ashes start on 1/8 so the Aus- A vs Aus game is really close to the first teat. I could perhaps see the Ashes squad being picked after the 4 day game against Sussex as the vast majority of the squad will be with the World Cup squad or the Aus A squad. Then again if the one day team makes the WC final perhaps it would be announced just after that. Paine, Burns, Head and Lyon could be neither squad, maybe Khawaja does not make the WC squad and maybe there will be a fast bowler in the same situation. With 4 Shield rounds to go and the Shield final these is plenty of time for players to play them into or out of the Australian A team. The selection is also a bit complicated by the 3 one day games at the start of tour. Will there be players selected specifically for these games or will there be players selected in the squad because of their one day ability who also play the 4 day games? Still at the moment there is a number of players who seem to be very strong chances to make the Australia A tour and perhaps give themselves a shot at the Ashes squad. Marcus Harris, Matt Renshaw, Will Pucovski and Chris Tremain seem to be the most obvious 4 picked. Other batsmen in contention might be Lehmann, Sangha and maybe the likes of Patterson, Labuschagne, Burns and Head will be put in the squad. Bowlers might be Pattinson, Meredith, Steketee and Worral. Maybe even Hazlewood makes the squad. Not sure who the wicketkeeper might be if Carey makes the WC squad, perhaps Wade or Pierson. The spinner in the side is very much open, Holland is probably Lyon's number 2 but he surely will not play in the A team. Perhaps Agar or Swepson or Pope will bowl themselves into the A squad in the remaining Shield matches. Thanks for posting this, Test Fan. Thanks for posting this, Test Fan.
I second that.
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My A squad.
Renshaw
Hughes
Pucovski
Doolan/Cooper
Labuchagne
Wade
Peirson/Philippe
Copeland
Tremain
Worrall
Meredith
Agar
Swepson
Winter
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+xMy A squad. Renshaw Hughes Pucovski Doolan/Cooper Labuchagne Wade Peirson/Philippe Copeland Tremain Worrall Meredith Agar Swepson Winter Silk I'd go close to this line up, but add Bancroft. Doolan has had his chance. He has the talent, but not the mental fortitude and self- brief to succeed. In form he is a magnificent batter to watch - he looks like Mark Waugh. When he is out of form he really struggles to get off strike with singles too. I didn't realise Silk had scored enough recent runs?
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+x+xMy A squad. Renshaw Hughes Pucovski Doolan/Cooper Labuchagne Wade Peirson/Philippe Copeland Tremain Worrall Meredith Agar Swepson Winter Silk I'd go close to this line up, but add Bancroft. Doolan has had his chance. He has the talent, but not the mental fortitude and self- brief to succeed. In form he is a magnificent batter to watch - he looks like Mark Waugh. When he is out of form he really struggles to get off strike with singles too. I didn't realise Silk had scored enough recent runs? Sadly I agree with you over Doolan. Ok replace him with Bancroft. I have been watching the progress of Silk since his troubles with depression. He is almost back to his best in all formats. 2018/19 FC 451 @37.5 with one 100 . Is not as yet smashing the door but is well and truly back with self belief. Always had the talent. Meredith is also out. Sheer speed is little help in Pom conditions.
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I would go with,
Batsmen: Renshaw, Harris, Handscomb, Labuschagne, Patterson, Pucovski, Wade
WK: Carey, Pierson
Fast bowlers: Richardson, Hazlewood, Tremain and one of Worrall, Meredith and Pattinson.
Spin Bowler: Agar or Swepson.
Now some of these will probably be in the WC squad and will need to be replaced.
Someone like Steketee probably does not make the squad yet but he is young, having a good season and if he has a very good second half of the season might make this squad.
Lehmann has not had his greatest season but it still has been reasonable and if puts together a good group of innings in the second half of the season he might make this squad.
There are quite a few players in this sort of position.
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This tour includes the following matches
20/6 1 day game (D/N) vs Northamptonshire
23/6 1 day game vs Derbyshire
29/6 1 day game vs Worcestershire
30/6 - 3/7 4 day game vs Gloucestershire
7/7- 10/7 4 day game vs Sussex
14/7 - 17/7 Somebody is playing the England Lions, their A team in a 4 day game, Not sure why cricinfo has listed as part of the Australia A tour unless Australia A might be playing them. The timing works nicely.
23/7 - 26/7 vs Australia There is in fact four pointless one dayers?. Makes no sense when all remaining cricket is red ball. What is below match. Not listed in official program in link. Big mystery. Australia A Tour of England - Men's, Three-Day Match Arundel Castle, Arundel http://www.espncricinfo.com/scores/series/19070/aus-a-in-england-2019The Arundel Castle match used to always be in the Ashes itinerary in the old days
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+xThis tour includes the following matches
20/6 1 day game (D/N) vs Northamptonshire
23/6 1 day game vs Derbyshire
29/6 1 day game vs Worcestershire
30/6 - 3/7 4 day game vs Gloucestershire
7/7- 10/7 4 day game vs Sussex
14/7 - 17/7 Somebody is playing the England Lions, their A team in a 4 day game, Not sure why cricinfo has listed as part of the Australia A tour unless Australia A might be playing them. The timing works nicely.
23/7 - 26/7 vs Australia There is in fact four pointless one dayers?. Makes no sense when all remaining cricket is red ball. What is below match. Not listed in official program in link. Big mystery. Australia A Tour of England - Men's, Three-Day Match Arundel Castle, Arundel http://www.espncricinfo.com/scores/series/19070/aus-a-in-england-2019The Arundel Castle match used to always be in the Ashes itinerary in the old days The World Cup final is 14 July. Should Aus need to call up a replacement for the last half of the round robin or the finals, this is perfect timing. Rather than bringing in someone out of the cold from Australia.
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+x+xThis tour includes the following matches
20/6 1 day game (D/N) vs Northamptonshire
23/6 1 day game vs Derbyshire
29/6 1 day game vs Worcestershire
30/6 - 3/7 4 day game vs Gloucestershire
7/7- 10/7 4 day game vs Sussex
14/7 - 17/7 Somebody is playing the England Lions, their A team in a 4 day game, Not sure why cricinfo has listed as part of the Australia A tour unless Australia A might be playing them. The timing works nicely.
23/7 - 26/7 vs Australia There is in fact four pointless one dayers?. Makes no sense when all remaining cricket is red ball. What is below match. Not listed in official program in link. Big mystery. Australia A Tour of England - Men's, Three-Day Match Arundel Castle, Arundel http://www.espncricinfo.com/scores/series/19070/aus-a-in-england-2019The Arundel Castle match used to always be in the Ashes itinerary in the old days The World Cup final is 14 July. Should Aus need to call up a replacement for the last half of the round robin or the finals, this is perfect timing. Rather than bringing in someone out of the cold from Australia. If that is the case I hope their is two squads named, one for the one day matches and one for the proper cricket.
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cricket.com.au has 5 one dayers, including two against Gloucestershire instead on the 4 game cricinfo lists. Then a 3 day game against Sussex instead of a 4 day game. Then the 4 day game against Australia.
Might has well get the players to go to some park somewhere and play marbles, this is a pathetic tour if it is correct.
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+xcricket.com.au has 5 one dayers, including two against Gloucestershire instead on the 4 game cricinfo lists. Then a 3 day game against Sussex instead of a 4 day game. Then the 4 day game against Australia. Might has well get the players to go to some park somewhere and play marbles, this is a pathetic tour if it is correct. It's a good start. Australia is new to this. And obviously using it for WC and Ashes depth of possible call up players.
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The fixture list just released is June 20: Australia A v Northamptonshire (50-over) June 23: Australia A v Derbyshire (50-over) June 25: Australia A v Worcestershire (50-over) June 30: Aus A v Gloucestershire (50-over) July 2: Aus A v Gloucestershire (50-over) July 7-10 Aus A v Sussex, Arundel July 14-17: Australia A v England Lions, Canterbury July 23-26: Australia v Australia A, Rose Bowl So the match against the England Lions is confirmed. The squad will include one day players to cover the world cup squad and Ashes' squad hopefuls. The current One day squad is Finch, Carey, Cummins, Behrendorff, Coulter-Nile, Handscomb, Khawaja, Lyon, S. Marsh, Maxwell, J & K Richardson, Stoinis, Turner, Zampa. Warner, Smith and Starc are quite likely to make the world cup squad and Hazlewood is a slim chance although injury will probably rule him out of even being considered. So those who miss out on the World Cup squad from these 19 players will almost certainly make the A squad. Langer has been quoted as saying there is 19 or 20 players who deserve to be in the squad, perhaps D'Arcy Short is the 20th player. Paine will captain the A squad. Head, Patterson and Harris are highly likely to make the A squad. I want Wade and Phillipe to make the squad, Pucovski probably should be their as well but with possibly two batsmen coming out of the one day squad he might be forced out. What about Labuschagne, Burns, and Bancroft? Even Maddinson could be considered. If Lyon drops out of the WC squad will he be in the A squad? Would there be a second spinner? To my Holland is Australia's second spinner. O'Keefe is in good form as well. As far as fast bowlers go it is less clear. Pattinson returned to the Victorian team and impressed in the absense of Tremain but he probably needs a very good last match to make the A squad. Tremain should be in the squad. Will Hazlewood make the squad? He will need cricket if he is in the plans for the Ashes, but should he be in those plans. My squad without anyone in WC considerations would be, Wk: Paine with cover from Wade or Phillipee Batsmen: Harris, Burns, Bancroft, Head, Patterson, Wade, Phillippe, Pucovski Spinner: Holland Fast Bowlers: Tremain, Boland, Bird, Steketee,
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+xThe fixture list just released is June 20: Australia A v Northamptonshire (50-over) June 23: Australia A v Derbyshire (50-over) June 25: Australia A v Worcestershire (50-over) June 30: Aus A v Gloucestershire (50-over) July 2: Aus A v Gloucestershire (50-over) July 7-10 Aus A v Sussex, Arundel July 14-17: Australia A v England Lions, Canterbury July 23-26: Australia v Australia A, Rose Bowl So the match against the England Lions is confirmed. The squad will include one day players to cover the world cup squad and Ashes' squad hopefuls. The current One day squad is Finch, Carey, Cummins, Behrendorff, Coulter-Nile, Handscomb, Khawaja, Lyon, S. Marsh, Maxwell, J & K Richardson, Stoinis, Turner, Zampa. Warner, Smith and Starc are quite likely to make the world cup squad and Hazlewood is a slim chance although injury will probably rule him out of even being considered. So those who miss out on the World Cup squad from these 19 players will almost certainly make the A squad. Langer has been quoted as saying there is 19 or 20 players who deserve to be in the squad, perhaps D'Arcy Short is the 20th player. Paine will captain the A squad. Head, Patterson and Harris are highly likely to make the A squad. I want Wade and Phillipe to make the squad, Pucovski probably should be their as well but with possibly two batsmen coming out of the one day squad he might be forced out. What about Labuschagne, Burns, and Bancroft? Even Maddinson could be considered. If Lyon drops out of the WC squad will he be in the A squad? Would there be a second spinner? To my Holland is Australia's second spinner. O'Keefe is in good form as well. As far as fast bowlers go it is less clear. Pattinson returned to the Victorian team and impressed in the absense of Tremain but he probably needs a very good last match to make the A squad. Tremain should be in the squad. Will Hazlewood make the squad? He will need cricket if he is in the plans for the Ashes, but should he be in those plans. My squad without anyone in WC considerations would be, Wk: Paine with cover from Wade or Phillipee Batsmen: Harris, Burns, Bancroft, Head, Patterson, Wade, Phillippe, Pucovski Spinner: Holland Fast Bowlers: Tremain, Boland, Bird, Steketee, Gday S_P jaszyjim - Can't miss an opportunity to comment on Paine. If he is as good as everyone keeps telling me, why are we including 2 keepers to back him up?
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+x+xThe fixture list just released is June 20: Australia A v Northamptonshire (50-over) June 23: Australia A v Derbyshire (50-over) June 25: Australia A v Worcestershire (50-over) June 30: Aus A v Gloucestershire (50-over) July 2: Aus A v Gloucestershire (50-over) July 7-10 Aus A v Sussex, Arundel July 14-17: Australia A v England Lions, Canterbury July 23-26: Australia v Australia A, Rose Bowl So the match against the England Lions is confirmed. The squad will include one day players to cover the world cup squad and Ashes' squad hopefuls. The current One day squad is Finch, Carey, Cummins, Behrendorff, Coulter-Nile, Handscomb, Khawaja, Lyon, S. Marsh, Maxwell, J & K Richardson, Stoinis, Turner, Zampa. Warner, Smith and Starc are quite likely to make the world cup squad and Hazlewood is a slim chance although injury will probably rule him out of even being considered. So those who miss out on the World Cup squad from these 19 players will almost certainly make the A squad. Langer has been quoted as saying there is 19 or 20 players who deserve to be in the squad, perhaps D'Arcy Short is the 20th player. Paine will captain the A squad. Head, Patterson and Harris are highly likely to make the A squad. I want Wade and Phillipe to make the squad, Pucovski probably should be their as well but with possibly two batsmen coming out of the one day squad he might be forced out. What about Labuschagne, Burns, and Bancroft? Even Maddinson could be considered. If Lyon drops out of the WC squad will he be in the A squad? Would there be a second spinner? To my Holland is Australia's second spinner. O'Keefe is in good form as well. As far as fast bowlers go it is less clear. Pattinson returned to the Victorian team and impressed in the absense of Tremain but he probably needs a very good last match to make the A squad. Tremain should be in the squad. Will Hazlewood make the squad? He will need cricket if he is in the plans for the Ashes, but should he be in those plans. My squad without anyone in WC considerations would be, Wk: Paine with cover from Wade or Phillipee Batsmen: Harris, Burns, Bancroft, Head, Patterson, Wade, Phillippe, Pucovski Spinner: Holland Fast Bowlers: Tremain, Boland, Bird, Steketee, Gday S_P jaszyjim - Can't miss an opportunity to comment on Paine. If he is as good as everyone keeps telling me, why are we including 2 keepers to back him up? I'm biased, JJ. Paine is the best keeper we have ATM as I've viewed all the Shield keepers at Bellerive. Experts sitting near me, at live games, comment on his finer points. His advancing age is his biggest issue.
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+x+x+xThe fixture list just released is June 20: Australia A v Northamptonshire (50-over) June 23: Australia A v Derbyshire (50-over) June 25: Australia A v Worcestershire (50-over) June 30: Aus A v Gloucestershire (50-over) July 2: Aus A v Gloucestershire (50-over) July 7-10 Aus A v Sussex, Arundel July 14-17: Australia A v England Lions, Canterbury July 23-26: Australia v Australia A, Rose Bowl So the match against the England Lions is confirmed. The squad will include one day players to cover the world cup squad and Ashes' squad hopefuls. The current One day squad is Finch, Carey, Cummins, Behrendorff, Coulter-Nile, Handscomb, Khawaja, Lyon, S. Marsh, Maxwell, J & K Richardson, Stoinis, Turner, Zampa. Warner, Smith and Starc are quite likely to make the world cup squad and Hazlewood is a slim chance although injury will probably rule him out of even being considered. So those who miss out on the World Cup squad from these 19 players will almost certainly make the A squad. Langer has been quoted as saying there is 19 or 20 players who deserve to be in the squad, perhaps D'Arcy Short is the 20th player. Paine will captain the A squad. Head, Patterson and Harris are highly likely to make the A squad. I want Wade and Phillipe to make the squad, Pucovski probably should be their as well but with possibly two batsmen coming out of the one day squad he might be forced out. What about Labuschagne, Burns, and Bancroft? Even Maddinson could be considered. If Lyon drops out of the WC squad will he be in the A squad? Would there be a second spinner? To my Holland is Australia's second spinner. O'Keefe is in good form as well. As far as fast bowlers go it is less clear. Pattinson returned to the Victorian team and impressed in the absense of Tremain but he probably needs a very good last match to make the A squad. Tremain should be in the squad. Will Hazlewood make the squad? He will need cricket if he is in the plans for the Ashes, but should he be in those plans. My squad without anyone in WC considerations would be, Wk: Paine with cover from Wade or Phillipee Batsmen: Harris, Burns, Bancroft, Head, Patterson, Wade, Phillippe, Pucovski Spinner: Holland Fast Bowlers: Tremain, Boland, Bird, Steketee, Gday S_P jaszyjim - Can't miss an opportunity to comment on Paine. If he is as good as everyone keeps telling me, why are we including 2 keepers to back him up? I'm biased, JJ. Paine is the best keeper we have ATM as I've viewed all the Shield keepers at Bellerive. Experts sitting near me, at live games, comment on his finer points. His advancing age is his biggest issue. Gday Dc, jaszyjim - I was given heaps in the early stages when I said smith & Warner would return as soon as their suspension was over - proved correct. It's like I mentioned earlier - whether we like or not, cricket is a business with a bottom line. As soon as CA can make Smith captain again, without causing too many waves, once his ban is over, he will be captain of the test side - reality is he is a best test captain we have. Payne, as I also went to extremes to point out, his age will catch up to him. If he cannot keep then his value solely as a captain to the team as captain expires, as he will have no value to the bottom line - harsh but that's business
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+x+x+x+xThe fixture list just released is June 20: Australia A v Northamptonshire (50-over) June 23: Australia A v Derbyshire (50-over) June 25: Australia A v Worcestershire (50-over) June 30: Aus A v Gloucestershire (50-over) July 2: Aus A v Gloucestershire (50-over) July 7-10 Aus A v Sussex, Arundel July 14-17: Australia A v England Lions, Canterbury July 23-26: Australia v Australia A, Rose Bowl So the match against the England Lions is confirmed. The squad will include one day players to cover the world cup squad and Ashes' squad hopefuls. The current One day squad is Finch, Carey, Cummins, Behrendorff, Coulter-Nile, Handscomb, Khawaja, Lyon, S. Marsh, Maxwell, J & K Richardson, Stoinis, Turner, Zampa. Warner, Smith and Starc are quite likely to make the world cup squad and Hazlewood is a slim chance although injury will probably rule him out of even being considered. So those who miss out on the World Cup squad from these 19 players will almost certainly make the A squad. Langer has been quoted as saying there is 19 or 20 players who deserve to be in the squad, perhaps D'Arcy Short is the 20th player. Paine will captain the A squad. Head, Patterson and Harris are highly likely to make the A squad. I want Wade and Phillipe to make the squad, Pucovski probably should be their as well but with possibly two batsmen coming out of the one day squad he might be forced out. What about Labuschagne, Burns, and Bancroft? Even Maddinson could be considered. If Lyon drops out of the WC squad will he be in the A squad? Would there be a second spinner? To my Holland is Australia's second spinner. O'Keefe is in good form as well. As far as fast bowlers go it is less clear. Pattinson returned to the Victorian team and impressed in the absense of Tremain but he probably needs a very good last match to make the A squad. Tremain should be in the squad. Will Hazlewood make the squad? He will need cricket if he is in the plans for the Ashes, but should he be in those plans. My squad without anyone in WC considerations would be, Wk: Paine with cover from Wade or Phillipee Batsmen: Harris, Burns, Bancroft, Head, Patterson, Wade, Phillippe, Pucovski Spinner: Holland Fast Bowlers: Tremain, Boland, Bird, Steketee, Gday S_P jaszyjim - Can't miss an opportunity to comment on Paine. If he is as good as everyone keeps telling me, why are we including 2 keepers to back him up? I'm biased, JJ. Paine is the best keeper we have ATM as I've viewed all the Shield keepers at Bellerive. Experts sitting near me, at live games, comment on his finer points. His advancing age is his biggest issue. Gday Dc, jaszyjim - I was given heaps in the early stages when I said smith & Warner would return as soon as their suspension was over - proved correct. It's like I mentioned earlier - whether we like or not, cricket is a business with a bottom line. As soon as CA can make Smith captain again, without causing too many waves, once his ban is over, he will be captain of the test side - reality is he is a best test captain we have. Payne, as I also went to extremes to point out, his age will catch up to him. If he cannot keep then his value solely as a captain to the team as captain expires, as he will have no value to the bottom line - harsh but that's business I think Smith has been a poor man manager. On the field his body language showed he was frustrated with players around him, if they made mistakes. He doesn't exude leadership and coolness in crises. Paine looks more upbeat. In the ODI team Finch has also impressed too. Both seem to be much more mature men than Smith.
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+x+x+x+x+xThe fixture list just released is June 20: Australia A v Northamptonshire (50-over) June 23: Australia A v Derbyshire (50-over) June 25: Australia A v Worcestershire (50-over) June 30: Aus A v Gloucestershire (50-over) July 2: Aus A v Gloucestershire (50-over) July 7-10 Aus A v Sussex, Arundel July 14-17: Australia A v England Lions, Canterbury July 23-26: Australia v Australia A, Rose Bowl So the match against the England Lions is confirmed. The squad will include one day players to cover the world cup squad and Ashes' squad hopefuls. The current One day squad is Finch, Carey, Cummins, Behrendorff, Coulter-Nile, Handscomb, Khawaja, Lyon, S. Marsh, Maxwell, J & K Richardson, Stoinis, Turner, Zampa. Warner, Smith and Starc are quite likely to make the world cup squad and Hazlewood is a slim chance although injury will probably rule him out of even being considered. So those who miss out on the World Cup squad from these 19 players will almost certainly make the A squad. Langer has been quoted as saying there is 19 or 20 players who deserve to be in the squad, perhaps D'Arcy Short is the 20th player. Paine will captain the A squad. Head, Patterson and Harris are highly likely to make the A squad. I want Wade and Phillipe to make the squad, Pucovski probably should be their as well but with possibly two batsmen coming out of the one day squad he might be forced out. What about Labuschagne, Burns, and Bancroft? Even Maddinson could be considered. If Lyon drops out of the WC squad will he be in the A squad? Would there be a second spinner? To my Holland is Australia's second spinner. O'Keefe is in good form as well. As far as fast bowlers go it is less clear. Pattinson returned to the Victorian team and impressed in the absense of Tremain but he probably needs a very good last match to make the A squad. Tremain should be in the squad. Will Hazlewood make the squad? He will need cricket if he is in the plans for the Ashes, but should he be in those plans. My squad without anyone in WC considerations would be, Wk: Paine with cover from Wade or Phillipee Batsmen: Harris, Burns, Bancroft, Head, Patterson, Wade, Phillippe, Pucovski Spinner: Holland Fast Bowlers: Tremain, Boland, Bird, Steketee, Gday S_P jaszyjim - Can't miss an opportunity to comment on Paine. If he is as good as everyone keeps telling me, why are we including 2 keepers to back him up? I'm biased, JJ. Paine is the best keeper we have ATM as I've viewed all the Shield keepers at Bellerive. Experts sitting near me, at live games, comment on his finer points. His advancing age is his biggest issue. Gday Dc, jaszyjim - I was given heaps in the early stages when I said smith & Warner would return as soon as their suspension was over - proved correct. It's like I mentioned earlier - whether we like or not, cricket is a business with a bottom line. As soon as CA can make Smith captain again, without causing too many waves, once his ban is over, he will be captain of the test side - reality is he is a best test captain we have. Payne, as I also went to extremes to point out, his age will catch up to him. If he cannot keep then his value solely as a captain to the team as captain expires, as he will have no value to the bottom line - harsh but that's business I think Smith has been a poor man manager. On the field his body language showed he was frustrated with players around him, if they made mistakes. He doesn't exude leadership and coolness in crises. Paine looks more upbeat. In the ODI team Finch has also impressed too. Both seem to be much more mature men than Smith.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xThe fixture list just released is June 20: Australia A v Northamptonshire (50-over) June 23: Australia A v Derbyshire (50-over) June 25: Australia A v Worcestershire (50-over) June 30: Aus A v Gloucestershire (50-over) July 2: Aus A v Gloucestershire (50-over) July 7-10 Aus A v Sussex, Arundel July 14-17: Australia A v England Lions, Canterbury July 23-26: Australia v Australia A, Rose Bowl So the match against the England Lions is confirmed. The squad will include one day players to cover the world cup squad and Ashes' squad hopefuls. The current One day squad is Finch, Carey, Cummins, Behrendorff, Coulter-Nile, Handscomb, Khawaja, Lyon, S. Marsh, Maxwell, J & K Richardson, Stoinis, Turner, Zampa. Warner, Smith and Starc are quite likely to make the world cup squad and Hazlewood is a slim chance although injury will probably rule him out of even being considered. So those who miss out on the World Cup squad from these 19 players will almost certainly make the A squad. Langer has been quoted as saying there is 19 or 20 players who deserve to be in the squad, perhaps D'Arcy Short is the 20th player. Paine will captain the A squad. Head, Patterson and Harris are highly likely to make the A squad. I want Wade and Phillipe to make the squad, Pucovski probably should be their as well but with possibly two batsmen coming out of the one day squad he might be forced out. What about Labuschagne, Burns, and Bancroft? Even Maddinson could be considered. If Lyon drops out of the WC squad will he be in the A squad? Would there be a second spinner? To my Holland is Australia's second spinner. O'Keefe is in good form as well. As far as fast bowlers go it is less clear. Pattinson returned to the Victorian team and impressed in the absense of Tremain but he probably needs a very good last match to make the A squad. Tremain should be in the squad. Will Hazlewood make the squad? He will need cricket if he is in the plans for the Ashes, but should he be in those plans. My squad without anyone in WC considerations would be, Wk: Paine with cover from Wade or Phillipee Batsmen: Harris, Burns, Bancroft, Head, Patterson, Wade, Phillippe, Pucovski Spinner: Holland Fast Bowlers: Tremain, Boland, Bird, Steketee, Gday S_P jaszyjim - Can't miss an opportunity to comment on Paine. If he is as good as everyone keeps telling me, why are we including 2 keepers to back him up? I'm biased, JJ. Paine is the best keeper we have ATM as I've viewed all the Shield keepers at Bellerive. Experts sitting near me, at live games, comment on his finer points. His advancing age is his biggest issue. Gday Dc, jaszyjim - I was given heaps in the early stages when I said smith & Warner would return as soon as their suspension was over - proved correct. It's like I mentioned earlier - whether we like or not, cricket is a business with a bottom line. As soon as CA can make Smith captain again, without causing too many waves, once his ban is over, he will be captain of the test side - reality is he is a best test captain we have. Payne, as I also went to extremes to point out, his age will catch up to him. If he cannot keep then his value solely as a captain to the team as captain expires, as he will have no value to the bottom line - harsh but that's business I think Smith has been a poor man manager. On the field his body language showed he was frustrated with players around him, if they made mistakes. He doesn't exude leadership and coolness in crises. Paine looks more upbeat. In the ODI team Finch has also impressed too. Both seem to be much more mature men than Smith. Aussie A bowler Jhye Richardson is running out of time if he wants an Ashes berth. Richardson is back bowling, albeit off a shortened run, under the watchful eye of coach Ryan Harris on a week long camp at the NCC in Brisbane almost three months after dislocating his right bowling shoulder in Sharjah. Next week he leaves with the A boys for their tour with the first limited over match starting on June 20. Our other crock Josh Hazlewood is back to full pace and is also taking part in the A camp where the English Dukes is being used. He will saddle up for both the 50 over and 4 day A matches on the England tour.
Our A boys have wrapped their NCC Camp.
https://www.cricket.com.au/video/kurtis-patterson-wraps-up-australia-a-four-day-training-camp-tour-of-england/2019-06-13
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThe fixture list just released is June 20: Australia A v Northamptonshire (50-over) June 23: Australia A v Derbyshire (50-over) June 25: Australia A v Worcestershire (50-over) June 30: Aus A v Gloucestershire (50-over) July 2: Aus A v Gloucestershire (50-over) July 7-10 Aus A v Sussex, Arundel July 14-17: Australia A v England Lions, Canterbury July 23-26: Australia v Australia A, Rose Bowl So the match against the England Lions is confirmed. The squad will include one day players to cover the world cup squad and Ashes' squad hopefuls. The current One day squad is Finch, Carey, Cummins, Behrendorff, Coulter-Nile, Handscomb, Khawaja, Lyon, S. Marsh, Maxwell, J & K Richardson, Stoinis, Turner, Zampa. Warner, Smith and Starc are quite likely to make the world cup squad and Hazlewood is a slim chance although injury will probably rule him out of even being considered. So those who miss out on the World Cup squad from these 19 players will almost certainly make the A squad. Langer has been quoted as saying there is 19 or 20 players who deserve to be in the squad, perhaps D'Arcy Short is the 20th player. Paine will captain the A squad. Head, Patterson and Harris are highly likely to make the A squad. I want Wade and Phillipe to make the squad, Pucovski probably should be their as well but with possibly two batsmen coming out of the one day squad he might be forced out. What about Labuschagne, Burns, and Bancroft? Even Maddinson could be considered. If Lyon drops out of the WC squad will he be in the A squad? Would there be a second spinner? To my Holland is Australia's second spinner. O'Keefe is in good form as well. As far as fast bowlers go it is less clear. Pattinson returned to the Victorian team and impressed in the absense of Tremain but he probably needs a very good last match to make the A squad. Tremain should be in the squad. Will Hazlewood make the squad? He will need cricket if he is in the plans for the Ashes, but should he be in those plans. My squad without anyone in WC considerations would be, Wk: Paine with cover from Wade or Phillipee Batsmen: Harris, Burns, Bancroft, Head, Patterson, Wade, Phillippe, Pucovski Spinner: Holland Fast Bowlers: Tremain, Boland, Bird, Steketee, Gday S_P jaszyjim - Can't miss an opportunity to comment on Paine. If he is as good as everyone keeps telling me, why are we including 2 keepers to back him up? I'm biased, JJ. Paine is the best keeper we have ATM as I've viewed all the Shield keepers at Bellerive. Experts sitting near me, at live games, comment on his finer points. His advancing age is his biggest issue. Gday Dc, jaszyjim - I was given heaps in the early stages when I said smith & Warner would return as soon as their suspension was over - proved correct. It's like I mentioned earlier - whether we like or not, cricket is a business with a bottom line. As soon as CA can make Smith captain again, without causing too many waves, once his ban is over, he will be captain of the test side - reality is he is a best test captain we have. Payne, as I also went to extremes to point out, his age will catch up to him. If he cannot keep then his value solely as a captain to the team as captain expires, as he will have no value to the bottom line - harsh but that's business I think Smith has been a poor man manager. On the field his body language showed he was frustrated with players around him, if they made mistakes. He doesn't exude leadership and coolness in crises. Paine looks more upbeat. In the ODI team Finch has also impressed too. Both seem to be much more mature men than Smith. Aussie A bowler Jhye Richardson is running out of time if he wants an Ashes berth. Richardson is back bowling, albeit off a shortened run, under the watchful eye of coach Ryan Harris on a week long camp at the NCC in Brisbane almost three months after dislocating his right bowling shoulder in Sharjah. Next week he leaves with the A boys for their tour with the first limited over match starting on June 20.
Great to see you back, Dragons4Life. Let us hope Richardson is fit for the Ashes.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThe fixture list just released is June 20: Australia A v Northamptonshire (50-over) June 23: Australia A v Derbyshire (50-over) June 25: Australia A v Worcestershire (50-over) June 30: Aus A v Gloucestershire (50-over) July 2: Aus A v Gloucestershire (50-over) July 7-10 Aus A v Sussex, Arundel July 14-17: Australia A v England Lions, Canterbury July 23-26: Australia v Australia A, Rose Bowl So the match against the England Lions is confirmed. The squad will include one day players to cover the world cup squad and Ashes' squad hopefuls. The current One day squad is Finch, Carey, Cummins, Behrendorff, Coulter-Nile, Handscomb, Khawaja, Lyon, S. Marsh, Maxwell, J & K Richardson, Stoinis, Turner, Zampa. Warner, Smith and Starc are quite likely to make the world cup squad and Hazlewood is a slim chance although injury will probably rule him out of even being considered. So those who miss out on the World Cup squad from these 19 players will almost certainly make the A squad. Langer has been quoted as saying there is 19 or 20 players who deserve to be in the squad, perhaps D'Arcy Short is the 20th player. Paine will captain the A squad. Head, Patterson and Harris are highly likely to make the A squad. I want Wade and Phillipe to make the squad, Pucovski probably should be their as well but with possibly two batsmen coming out of the one day squad he might be forced out. What about Labuschagne, Burns, and Bancroft? Even Maddinson could be considered. If Lyon drops out of the WC squad will he be in the A squad? Would there be a second spinner? To my Holland is Australia's second spinner. O'Keefe is in good form as well. As far as fast bowlers go it is less clear. Pattinson returned to the Victorian team and impressed in the absense of Tremain but he probably needs a very good last match to make the A squad. Tremain should be in the squad. Will Hazlewood make the squad? He will need cricket if he is in the plans for the Ashes, but should he be in those plans. My squad without anyone in WC considerations would be, Wk: Paine with cover from Wade or Phillipee Batsmen: Harris, Burns, Bancroft, Head, Patterson, Wade, Phillippe, Pucovski Spinner: Holland Fast Bowlers: Tremain, Boland, Bird, Steketee, Gday S_P jaszyjim - Can't miss an opportunity to comment on Paine. If he is as good as everyone keeps telling me, why are we including 2 keepers to back him up? I'm biased, JJ. Paine is the best keeper we have ATM as I've viewed all the Shield keepers at Bellerive. Experts sitting near me, at live games, comment on his finer points. His advancing age is his biggest issue. Gday Dc, jaszyjim - I was given heaps in the early stages when I said smith & Warner would return as soon as their suspension was over - proved correct. It's like I mentioned earlier - whether we like or not, cricket is a business with a bottom line. As soon as CA can make Smith captain again, without causing too many waves, once his ban is over, he will be captain of the test side - reality is he is a best test captain we have. Payne, as I also went to extremes to point out, his age will catch up to him. If he cannot keep then his value solely as a captain to the team as captain expires, as he will have no value to the bottom line - harsh but that's business I think Smith has been a poor man manager. On the field his body language showed he was frustrated with players around him, if they made mistakes. He doesn't exude leadership and coolness in crises. Paine looks more upbeat. In the ODI team Finch has also impressed too. Both seem to be much more mature men than Smith. Our other crock Josh Hazlewood is back to full pace and is also taking part in the A camp where the English Dukes is being used. He will saddle up for both the 50 over and 4 day A matches on the England tour.
Thanks for clarifying this, Dragons4Life. I thought Hazlewood was in the One Day World Cup squad!
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThe fixture list just released is June 20: Australia A v Northamptonshire (50-over) June 23: Australia A v Derbyshire (50-over) June 25: Australia A v Worcestershire (50-over) June 30: Aus A v Gloucestershire (50-over) July 2: Aus A v Gloucestershire (50-over) July 7-10 Aus A v Sussex, Arundel July 14-17: Australia A v England Lions, Canterbury July 23-26: Australia v Australia A, Rose Bowl So the match against the England Lions is confirmed. The squad will include one day players to cover the world cup squad and Ashes' squad hopefuls. The current One day squad is Finch, Carey, Cummins, Behrendorff, Coulter-Nile, Handscomb, Khawaja, Lyon, S. Marsh, Maxwell, J & K Richardson, Stoinis, Turner, Zampa. Warner, Smith and Starc are quite likely to make the world cup squad and Hazlewood is a slim chance although injury will probably rule him out of even being considered. So those who miss out on the World Cup squad from these 19 players will almost certainly make the A squad. Langer has been quoted as saying there is 19 or 20 players who deserve to be in the squad, perhaps D'Arcy Short is the 20th player. Paine will captain the A squad. Head, Patterson and Harris are highly likely to make the A squad. I want Wade and Phillipe to make the squad, Pucovski probably should be their as well but with possibly two batsmen coming out of the one day squad he might be forced out. What about Labuschagne, Burns, and Bancroft? Even Maddinson could be considered. If Lyon drops out of the WC squad will he be in the A squad? Would there be a second spinner? To my Holland is Australia's second spinner. O'Keefe is in good form as well. As far as fast bowlers go it is less clear. Pattinson returned to the Victorian team and impressed in the absense of Tremain but he probably needs a very good last match to make the A squad. Tremain should be in the squad. Will Hazlewood make the squad? He will need cricket if he is in the plans for the Ashes, but should he be in those plans. My squad without anyone in WC considerations would be, Wk: Paine with cover from Wade or Phillipee Batsmen: Harris, Burns, Bancroft, Head, Patterson, Wade, Phillippe, Pucovski Spinner: Holland Fast Bowlers: Tremain, Boland, Bird, Steketee, Gday S_P jaszyjim - Can't miss an opportunity to comment on Paine. If he is as good as everyone keeps telling me, why are we including 2 keepers to back him up? I'm biased, JJ. Paine is the best keeper we have ATM as I've viewed all the Shield keepers at Bellerive. Experts sitting near me, at live games, comment on his finer points. His advancing age is his biggest issue. Gday Dc, jaszyjim - I was given heaps in the early stages when I said smith & Warner would return as soon as their suspension was over - proved correct. It's like I mentioned earlier - whether we like or not, cricket is a business with a bottom line. As soon as CA can make Smith captain again, without causing too many waves, once his ban is over, he will be captain of the test side - reality is he is a best test captain we have. Payne, as I also went to extremes to point out, his age will catch up to him. If he cannot keep then his value solely as a captain to the team as captain expires, as he will have no value to the bottom line - harsh but that's business I think Smith has been a poor man manager. On the field his body language showed he was frustrated with players around him, if they made mistakes. He doesn't exude leadership and coolness in crises. Paine looks more upbeat. In the ODI team Finch has also impressed too. Both seem to be much more mature men than Smith. Our other crock Josh Hazlewood is back to full pace and is also taking part in the A camp where the English Dukes is being used. He will saddle up for both the 50 over and 4 day A matches on the England tour.
Thanks for clarifying this, Dragons4Life. I thought Hazlewood was in the One Day World Cup squad! Please continue to call me Baggers. No Hazlewood has been recuping after some back trouble several months ago.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThe fixture list just released is June 20: Australia A v Northamptonshire (50-over) June 23: Australia A v Derbyshire (50-over) June 25: Australia A v Worcestershire (50-over) June 30: Aus A v Gloucestershire (50-over) July 2: Aus A v Gloucestershire (50-over) July 7-10 Aus A v Sussex, Arundel July 14-17: Australia A v England Lions, Canterbury July 23-26: Australia v Australia A, Rose Bowl So the match against the England Lions is confirmed. The squad will include one day players to cover the world cup squad and Ashes' squad hopefuls. The current One day squad is Finch, Carey, Cummins, Behrendorff, Coulter-Nile, Handscomb, Khawaja, Lyon, S. Marsh, Maxwell, J & K Richardson, Stoinis, Turner, Zampa. Warner, Smith and Starc are quite likely to make the world cup squad and Hazlewood is a slim chance although injury will probably rule him out of even being considered. So those who miss out on the World Cup squad from these 19 players will almost certainly make the A squad. Langer has been quoted as saying there is 19 or 20 players who deserve to be in the squad, perhaps D'Arcy Short is the 20th player. Paine will captain the A squad. Head, Patterson and Harris are highly likely to make the A squad. I want Wade and Phillipe to make the squad, Pucovski probably should be their as well but with possibly two batsmen coming out of the one day squad he might be forced out. What about Labuschagne, Burns, and Bancroft? Even Maddinson could be considered. If Lyon drops out of the WC squad will he be in the A squad? Would there be a second spinner? To my Holland is Australia's second spinner. O'Keefe is in good form as well. As far as fast bowlers go it is less clear. Pattinson returned to the Victorian team and impressed in the absense of Tremain but he probably needs a very good last match to make the A squad. Tremain should be in the squad. Will Hazlewood make the squad? He will need cricket if he is in the plans for the Ashes, but should he be in those plans. My squad without anyone in WC considerations would be, Wk: Paine with cover from Wade or Phillipee Batsmen: Harris, Burns, Bancroft, Head, Patterson, Wade, Phillippe, Pucovski Spinner: Holland Fast Bowlers: Tremain, Boland, Bird, Steketee, Gday S_P jaszyjim - Can't miss an opportunity to comment on Paine. If he is as good as everyone keeps telling me, why are we including 2 keepers to back him up? I'm biased, JJ. Paine is the best keeper we have ATM as I've viewed all the Shield keepers at Bellerive. Experts sitting near me, at live games, comment on his finer points. His advancing age is his biggest issue. Gday Dc, jaszyjim - I was given heaps in the early stages when I said smith & Warner would return as soon as their suspension was over - proved correct. It's like I mentioned earlier - whether we like or not, cricket is a business with a bottom line. As soon as CA can make Smith captain again, without causing too many waves, once his ban is over, he will be captain of the test side - reality is he is a best test captain we have. Payne, as I also went to extremes to point out, his age will catch up to him. If he cannot keep then his value solely as a captain to the team as captain expires, as he will have no value to the bottom line - harsh but that's business I think Smith has been a poor man manager. On the field his body language showed he was frustrated with players around him, if they made mistakes. He doesn't exude leadership and coolness in crises. Paine looks more upbeat. In the ODI team Finch has also impressed too. Both seem to be much more mature men than Smith. Our other crock Josh Hazlewood is back to full pace and is also taking part in the A camp where the English Dukes is being used. He will saddle up for both the 50 over and 4 day A matches on the England tour.
Thanks for clarifying this, Dragons4Life. I thought Hazlewood was in the One Day World Cup squad! Please continue to call me Baggers. No Hazlewood was never part of the WC squad as he injured his back prior to announcement of the team. Mr Moderator. Processing an avatar on this site is albut impossible.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThe fixture list just released is June 20: Australia A v Northamptonshire (50-over) June 23: Australia A v Derbyshire (50-over) June 25: Australia A v Worcestershire (50-over) June 30: Aus A v Gloucestershire (50-over) July 2: Aus A v Gloucestershire (50-over) July 7-10 Aus A v Sussex, Arundel July 14-17: Australia A v England Lions, Canterbury July 23-26: Australia v Australia A, Rose Bowl So the match against the England Lions is confirmed. The squad will include one day players to cover the world cup squad and Ashes' squad hopefuls. The current One day squad is Finch, Carey, Cummins, Behrendorff, Coulter-Nile, Handscomb, Khawaja, Lyon, S. Marsh, Maxwell, J & K Richardson, Stoinis, Turner, Zampa. Warner, Smith and Starc are quite likely to make the world cup squad and Hazlewood is a slim chance although injury will probably rule him out of even being considered. So those who miss out on the World Cup squad from these 19 players will almost certainly make the A squad. Langer has been quoted as saying there is 19 or 20 players who deserve to be in the squad, perhaps D'Arcy Short is the 20th player. Paine will captain the A squad. Head, Patterson and Harris are highly likely to make the A squad. I want Wade and Phillipe to make the squad, Pucovski probably should be their as well but with possibly two batsmen coming out of the one day squad he might be forced out. What about Labuschagne, Burns, and Bancroft? Even Maddinson could be considered. If Lyon drops out of the WC squad will he be in the A squad? Would there be a second spinner? To my Holland is Australia's second spinner. O'Keefe is in good form as well. As far as fast bowlers go it is less clear. Pattinson returned to the Victorian team and impressed in the absense of Tremain but he probably needs a very good last match to make the A squad. Tremain should be in the squad. Will Hazlewood make the squad? He will need cricket if he is in the plans for the Ashes, but should he be in those plans. My squad without anyone in WC considerations would be, Wk: Paine with cover from Wade or Phillipee Batsmen: Harris, Burns, Bancroft, Head, Patterson, Wade, Phillippe, Pucovski Spinner: Holland Fast Bowlers: Tremain, Boland, Bird, Steketee, Gday S_P jaszyjim - Can't miss an opportunity to comment on Paine. If he is as good as everyone keeps telling me, why are we including 2 keepers to back him up? I'm biased, JJ. Paine is the best keeper we have ATM as I've viewed all the Shield keepers at Bellerive. Experts sitting near me, at live games, comment on his finer points. His advancing age is his biggest issue. Gday Dc, jaszyjim - I was given heaps in the early stages when I said smith & Warner would return as soon as their suspension was over - proved correct. It's like I mentioned earlier - whether we like or not, cricket is a business with a bottom line. As soon as CA can make Smith captain again, without causing too many waves, once his ban is over, he will be captain of the test side - reality is he is a best test captain we have. Payne, as I also went to extremes to point out, his age will catch up to him. If he cannot keep then his value solely as a captain to the team as captain expires, as he will have no value to the bottom line - harsh but that's business I think Smith has been a poor man manager. On the field his body language showed he was frustrated with players around him, if they made mistakes. He doesn't exude leadership and coolness in crises. Paine looks more upbeat. In the ODI team Finch has also impressed too. Both seem to be much more mature men than Smith. Our other crock Josh Hazlewood is back to full pace and is also taking part in the A camp where the English Dukes is being used. He will saddle up for both the 50 over and 4 day A matches on the England tour.
Thanks for clarifying this, Dragons4Life. I thought Hazlewood was in the One Day World Cup squad! Please continue to call me Baggers. No Hazlewood was never part of the WC squad as he injured his back prior to announcement of the team. Mr Moderator. Processing an avatar on this site is albut impossible. I’m not one anymore. PM the Moderator called McJules or /and Bowden at the bottom of the FTBL section of Inside Sport. Cheers, Baggers.
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I wonder who is in the final squad?
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who has played and performed in county this year?
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 The Australia A squad has arrived in the Old Dart and now preparing for the tour by training at the state of the art Loughborough University facility ahead of the opening 50 over match of their UK tour, against Northamptonshire on Thursday
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+xThe Australia A squad has arrived in the Old Dart and now preparing for the tour by training at the state of the art Loughborough University facility ahead of the opening 50 over match of their UK tour, against Northamptonshire on Thursday DC I am hearing Drew Ginn has been with Tassie cricket for a while. In what capacity mate?
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+x+xThe Australia A squad has arrived in the Old Dart and now preparing for the tour by training at the state of the art Loughborough University facility ahead of the opening 50 over match of their UK tour, against Northamptonshire on Thursday DC I am hearing Drew Ginn has been with Tassie cricket for a while. In what capacity mate? High performance. There was an article about him in the local tabloid today.
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+xThe Australia A squad has arrived in the Old Dart and now preparing for the tour by training at the state of the art Loughborough University facility ahead of the opening 50 over match of their UK tour, against Northamptonshire on Thursday Good on you adding this. Welcome back, Baggers.
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Hi to you KW. Yes pure cricket is back. Will be posting regular stuff here from the A tour. Should be able to catch some match hilites from the BBC cricket site. First one dayer starts at 10 tonite our time.
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A solid first up hit out by the boys against Northampton. Wade, Agar, Handscomb and Hazlewood the stars in the 6 wicket win. https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/19070/report/1169649/northamptonshire-vs-australia-a-aus-a-in-england-2019
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Apparently, Wade batted very well. I would have thought it was a good idea to play 3 and 4 day games if Australia A is preparing to play Test cricket.
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+xApparently, Wade batted very well. I would have thought it was a good idea to play 3 and 4 day games if Australia A is preparing to play Test cricket. Agree. But at least there are three four day matches after these one dayers KW. Mitch Marsh also had a good all round game.. wickets and runs.
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+x+xApparently, Wade batted very well. I would have thought it was a good idea to play 3 and 4 day games if Australia A is preparing to play Test cricket. Wade is in career best form. An outside chance for an Ashes squad berth.
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Much as I’m surprisingly enjoying the One Day manifestation of the World Cup, I’m really looking forward to the Ashes.
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would like to see pattinson, starc and cummins in the same team
Pattinson looks the best of the lot and has had a good run without injury
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+xwould like to see pattinson, starc and cummins in the same team Pattinson looks the best of the lot and has had a good run without injury g'day grazor. Agree about Pattinson being in our Test attack but with Cummins and Hazlewood. We need the steady armory of Hazlewood when there is nothing in the deck for the express men.
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+x+xwould like to see pattinson, starc and cummins in the same team Pattinson looks the best of the lot and has had a good run without injury g'day grazor. Agree about Pattinson being in our Test attack but with Cummins and Hazlewood. We need the steady armory of Hazlewood when there is nothing in the deck for the express men. Our boys decimated Derbyshire in the second game with Wade again the star. This bloke has hit another stratosphere since being dumped from the Test team and heading back to Tassie as a batsman only.
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+x+x+xwould like to see pattinson, starc and cummins in the same team Pattinson looks the best of the lot and has had a good run without injury g'day grazor. Agree about Pattinson being in our Test attack but with Cummins and Hazlewood. We need the steady armory of Hazlewood when there is nothing in the deck for the express men. Our boys decimated Derbeyshire in the second game with Wade again the star. This bloke has hit another stratosphere since being dumped from the Test team and heading back to Tassie as a batsman only. I think he originally returned to Tassie as the Test keeper. He has played as keeper for Tas when Paine hasn’t been available. That has been most of the time.
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+x+x+x+xwould like to see pattinson, starc and cummins in the same team Pattinson looks the best of the lot and has had a good run without injury g'day grazor. Agree about Pattinson being in our Test attack but with Cummins and Hazlewood. We need the steady armory of Hazlewood when there is nothing in the deck for the express men. Our boys decimated Derbeyshire in the second game with Wade again the star. This bloke has hit another stratosphere since being dumped from the Test team and heading back to Tassie as a batsman only. I think he originally returned to Tassie as the Test keeper. He has played as keeper for Tas when Paine hasn’t been available. That has been most of the time. I recall he was dumped well before his Tassie return.. may be wrong. Did he keep for the Tigers in shield last year?
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+x+x+x+x+xwould like to see pattinson, starc and cummins in the same team Pattinson looks the best of the lot and has had a good run without injury g'day grazor. Agree about Pattinson being in our Test attack but with Cummins and Hazlewood. We need the steady armory of Hazlewood when there is nothing in the deck for the express men. Our boys decimated Derbeyshire in the second game with Wade again the star. This bloke has hit another stratosphere since being dumped from the Test team and heading back to Tassie as a batsman only. I think he originally returned to Tassie as the Test keeper. He has played as keeper for Tas when Paine hasn’t been available. That has been most of the time. I recall he was dumped well before his Tassie return.. may be wrong. Did he keep for the Tigers in shield last year? Wade kept for the Tigers in any game Paine wasn't available.
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+xShort has to go. Why are Patterson and Pucovski batting at #6 & #7? I would have Pucovski opening, Patterson at #3, Head, Handscomb then Marsh.
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I've read in the Murdoch press that if Australia wins the World Cup, Carey will be kept as reserve wicketkeeper for the Ashes series.
Strange logic for someone not being evaluated as a performer in FC cricket as an Ashes tourist.
I have not seen all his keeping in the World Cup, but I've seen a few cast aspersions about his glove work.
Given Wade is batting so well, as prospective keepers what are the comparative strengths and weaknesses of Carey's and Wade's glove work?
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+xI've read in the Murdoch press that if Australia wins the World Cup, Carey will be kept as reserve wicketkeeper for the Ashes series. Strange logic for someone not being evaluated as a performer in FC cricket as an Ashes tourist. I have not seen all his keeping in the World Cup, but I've seen a few cast aspersions about his glove work. Given Wade is batting so well, as prospective keepers what are the comparative strengths and weaknesses of Carey's and Wade's glove work? Reason being Carey is regarded as the second best gloveman in Australia. I dispute that as Whiteman is my #2. The fact is DC, you should always choose your best keeper for Test cricket. Wade's glovework is not test standard.. Remember Wade is getting his current runs on roads against second rate bowling. They have been feeding his strengths.
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The third game is tonite against Worcestershire. You may be able to catch it live streamed on BBC/cricket.
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+xThe third game is tonite against Worcestershire. You may be able to catch it live streamed on BBC/cricket. some footage from the Derbyshire match https://youtu.be/DkCSGM2QPsM
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+x+xThe third game is tonite against Worcestershire. You may be able to catch it live streamed on BBC/cricket. some footage from the Derbyshire match https://youtu.be/DkCSGM2QPsM DC what has happened to Tassie quick Ryan Lees. Impressed me a couple of years ago.
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+x+x+xThe third game is tonite against Worcestershire. You may be able to catch it live streamed on BBC/cricket. some footage from the Derbyshire match https://youtu.be/DkCSGM2QPsM DC what has happened to Tassie quick Ryan Lees. Impressed me a couple of years ago. I cannot remember him, Baggers? Are you sure he played for Tas?
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+x+x+x+xThe third game is tonite against Worcestershire. You may be able to catch it live streamed on BBC/cricket. some footage from the Derbyshire match https://youtu.be/DkCSGM2QPsM DC what has happened to Tassie quick Ryan Lees. Impressed me a couple of years ago. I cannot remember him, Baggers? Are you sure he played for Tas? Certain. Ryan Lees is an Australian cricketer. He made his List A debut for Cricket Australia XI on 7 October 2015 in the 2015–16 Matador BBQs One-Day Cup. He made his first-class debut for Cricket Australia XI against the West Indians during their tour of Australia in December 2015. Wikipedia. Born: 16 February 1994 (age 25 years), Australia Education: Launceston Church Grammar School - Senior Campus
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+x+x+x+x+xThe third game is tonite against Worcestershire. You may be able to catch it live streamed on BBC/cricket. some footage from the Derbyshire match https://youtu.be/DkCSGM2QPsM DC what has happened to Tassie quick Ryan Lees. Impressed me a couple of years ago. I cannot remember him, Baggers? Are you sure he played for Tas? Certain. Ryan Lees is an Australian cricketer. He made his List A debut for Cricket Australia XI on 7 October 2015 in the 2015–16 Matador BBQs One-Day Cup. He made his first-class debut for Cricket Australia XI against the West Indians during their tour of Australia in December 2015. Wikipedia. Born: 16 February 1994 (age 25 years), Australia Education: Launceston Church Grammar School - Senior Campus Like I say he impressed me and CA why not the TCA? I have to say that importing quicks from other states when you have fine bowlers such as Lees sends the wrong message. Frankly it sucks.
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Career Bowling Stats Ryan lees. Right-Arm Fast Bowler | Format | M | W | Econ | Avg |
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Now they are good FC figures.. certainly suffic ently good to be continued with.
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+xEngland's almost monsoonal rain washed out our third match overnite. Next match is down Bristol way against Gloucester on the 30th..
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+x+xEngland's almost monsoonal rain washed out our third match overnite. Next match is down Bristol way against Gloucester on the 30th.. Just found this. Explains his absence. NIGHTCLIFF paceman Ryan Lees still holds hope of once again becoming a professional cricketer, despite managing his way through a career-threatening back injury.
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+x+x+xEngland's almost monsoonal rain washed out our third match overnite. Next match is down Bristol way against Gloucester on the 30th.. Just found this. Explains his absence. NIGHTCLIFF paceman Ryan Lees still holds hope of once again becoming a professional cricketer, despite managing his way through a career-threatening back injury. Shocking I can’t remember him. Poor bloke!
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+x+x+x+xEngland's almost monsoonal rain washed out our third match overnite. Next match is down Bristol way against Gloucester on the 30th.. Just found this. Explains his absence. NIGHTCLIFF paceman Ryan Lees still holds hope of once again becoming a professional cricketer, despite managing his way through a career-threatening back injury. Shocking I can’t remember him. Poor bloke! Our A boys are getting good prep for the upcoming Ashes. blob: https://www.cricket.com.au/63e23101-...7-cd7b99c64109
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Marnus Labuchagne has not been twiddling his thumps while in England in the off season. Far from it and CA will be taking note.
With 851 runs @65.46, the talented Qlander tops the run charts in Div 2 for Welsh side Glamorgan plus has chipped in with the ball with 13 wickets at @34.37 with his under rated leggies.
Mat Renshaw can not buy a run for Kent and has been dropped. Seems to have lost all confidence.
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+xMarnus Labuchagne has not been twiddling his thumps while in England in the off season. Far from it and CA will be taking note. With 851 runs @65.46, the talented Qlander tops the run charts in Div 2 for Welsh side Glamorgan plus has chipped in with the ball with 13 wickets at @34.37 with his under rated leggies. Mat Renshaw can not buy a run for Kent and has been dropped. Seems to have lost all confidence. Pretty amazing about Renshaw. Will he ever return to where he was when playing Test cricket when he was only about 20 years old?
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+x+xMarnus Labuchagne has not been twiddling his thumps while in England in the off season. Far from it and CA will be taking note. With 851 runs @65.46, the talented Qlander tops the run charts in Div 2 for Welsh side Glamorgan plus has chipped in with the ball with 13 wickets at @34.37 with his under rated leggies. Mat Renshaw can not buy a run for Kent and has been dropped. Seems to have lost all confidence. Pretty amazing about Renshaw. Will he ever return to where he was when playing Test cricket when he was only about 20 years old? Renners has time on his hands. He will come good. Labuchagne has now cracked the 1000 run season milestone. Posted double tons in his last match. Is now staking a big claim for an Ashes spot for sure.
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Australia A went through the one-day leg of their tour unbeaten, but now things get really interesting with the red ball coming into focus and places in the Ashes squad to play for. They face Sussex and England Lions over the next couple of weeks before the selection showdown between two Australia teams in Southampton after which the squad will be confirmed.
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haven't rated labu but maybe he is slowly coming good
his batting average is fine if he can get his bowling average under 40
bowling averages for all rounders are usually inflated because they rarely get a crack at the tail. Averaging 38ish with the ball is elite so he's not that far off
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travis head looks to be slowly coming good as well
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matthew wades form has been incredible! Wish we could have him in the middle order!
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+xmatthew wades form has been incredible! Wish we could have him in the middle order! Agree based on results. Long term, not so good, but Voges and Rogers had successful late careers.
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Pattinson, Hazlewood, Bird and Holland will be the Australia A attack against Sussex tonite in the tour's first red ball match..
Following on from scores of 51 and 137 – his maiden List A hundred .. Will Pucovski will open the batting alongside Test opener Marcus Harris. Test incumbents Kurtis Patterson and Travis Head will bat at #.3 and #4 respectively, ahead of Matt Wade playing as a specialist batsman, allrounder Mitch Marsh and skipper/keeper Tim Paine.
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+xPattinson, Hazlewood, Bird and Holland will be the Australia A attack against Sussex tonite in the tour's first red ball match.. Following on from scores of 51 and 137 – his maiden List A hundred .. Will Pucovski will open the batting alongside Test opener Marcus Harris. Test incumbents Kurtis Patterson and Travis Head will bat at #.3 and #4 respectively, ahead of Matt Wade playing as a specialist batsman, allrounder Mitch Marsh and skipper/keeper Tim Paine. Ta. Hasn't Mitch Marsh been rushed into the World Cup camp as an injury replacement for Stoinis?
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He has. Posted that before I knew of Marsh and Wade covering for injured players. Stoinis has been next to useless anyway so wont be missed. Wondering if both Marsh and Wade would have preferred playing red ball cricket?
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+x Wondering if both Marsh and Wade would have preferred playing red ball cricket? It is definitely better preparation for the Ashes, Baggers.
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Just 33 overs were allowed after a long rain delay in Sussex in the Australia A match at the picturesque Arundel Castle ground.. Pattinson enjoying being back in Aussie colors with a three for. Sussex 5-118 at stumps.
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+xJust 33 overs were allowed after a long rain delay in Sussex in the Australia A match at the picturesque Arundel Castle ground.. Pattinson enjoying being back in Aussie colors with a three for. Sussex 5-118 at stumps. Been looking for stream coverage. No dice so far. Good to see Pattinson taking some wickets and with some kilometres in the legs.
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+xJust 33 overs were allowed after a long rain delay in Sussex in the Australia A match at the picturesque Arundel Castle ground.. Pattinson enjoying being back in Aussie colors with a three for. Sussex 5-118 at stumps. Been looking for stream coverage. No dice so far. Very interesting overnight results for Australia A. Burns and Harris with a remarkable 200 opening partnership. But it is against a future league standard opposition (at best) as were the one day games. Burns and Harris need to play so I would have the batting line-up Warner, Harris, Khawaja, Smith, Head, Burns, then Paine and the bowlers and based on what we're seeing in the bowling Pattinson, Cummins and Starc great batting tail. Pattinson great job with the ball surely has to be included in the first test. Starc has been incredible in the WC as leading wicket taker (9 matches 26 wickets Av 17 and SR 19) Cummins not so impressive (9 games 13 wickets av 30 SR 37) and batting has been poor as well. But Jason Behrendorff has been Australia's 2nd best bowler showing he is a genuine wicket taker (4 games 9 wickets, av 21 Sr 24). Surely he has to remain if fit. In contrast Josh Hazlewood playing against these club cricketers one day matches 3/141 av 47 SR 60, and yesterday 20 overs 0/46. Surely this has to re-inforce that he is not a genuine wicket taker and I don't believe he should even tour for the Ashes. Even Neser took 2/45, both bowled dismissals, so you know he is attacking the wicket. Not that I rate Neser personally but he appears to have leap-frogged both Bird and Hazlewood in effectiveness, but as I said only against club cricket/future league at best so you expect wickets at an effective strike rate. My bowlers for the Ashes would be Pattinson, Starc, Cummins, Behrendorff, Lyons and Holland. They will probably have M Marsh selected but at least say goodbye to S Marsh, I hope.
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pattison's record is mcgrath like, I hope he gets another go at the top level!
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+xpattison's record is mcgrath like, I hope he gets another go at the top level! He probably only has to display a sustained spell of injury free cricket to gain selection.
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+x+xpattison's record is mcgrath like, I hope he gets another go at the top level! He probably only has to display a sustained spell of injury free cricket to gain selection. grazor. Reckon Pattinson is 'a lay down misere' to be in our Ashes attack. He had a strong Shield and Eng county season.. and has 7 wickets in this Sussex game.
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+x+x+xpattison's record is mcgrath like, I hope he gets another go at the top level! He probably only has to display a sustained spell of injury free cricket to gain selection. grazor. Reckon Pattinson is 'a lay down misere' to be in our Ashes attack. He had a strong Shield and county season.. and has 7 wickets in the Sussex game. The Hazlewood/Blues basher is back!!! CA will still want him in our Ashes attack.. I have to admit.. Haze does need to take wickets in these red ball warm up matches.. His economy rate tho is as miserly as ever.. pressure usually translates to wickets.. and there were plenty falling from the other end. I certainly would not be writing off Patterson after one failure in Pom conditions. Most of our batsmen struggle against the moving ball.
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+x+x+x+xpattison's record is mcgrath like, I hope he gets another go at the top level! He probably only has to display a sustained spell of injury free cricket to gain selection. grazor. Reckon Pattinson is 'a lay down misere' to be in our Ashes attack. He had a strong Shield and county season.. and has 7 wickets in the Sussex game. The Hazlewood/Blues basher is back!!! CA will still want him in our Ashes attack.. I have to admit.. Haze does need to take wickets in these red ball warm up matches.. His economy rate tho is as miserly as ever.. pressure usually translates to wickets.. and there were plenty falling from the other end. I certainly would not be writing off Patterson after one failure in Pom conditions. Most of our batsmen struggle against the moving ball. Hazlewood has NEEDED to take more wickets for years now. Disagree with your constant excuse of him being miserly which lead to wickets. 2nd innings He and Neser opened the bowling and the only wicket to fall during those 12 overs was Neser getting an LBW with accurate bowling, it wasn't the batsman throwing the bat to get the scoring rate moving and being caught. From there it was the Pattinson, Bird and Holland show, Hazlewood didn't bowl again in the innings, so he had nothing to do with any of the wickets to fall. Let me ask you this Baggers. In all honesty the bowling attack for the Ashes should be Pattinson, Starc, Cummins and Lyon. Now you will argue Hazlewood for Starc, but Starc's record of 211 wickets from 51 tests puts him amongst the best bowlers we have produced and his form at the WC against the best players in the world is phenomenal. Hazlewood on the other hand from 82 innings bowled has 164 wickets compared to G Lawson, remembering Lawson was dropped from the Australian side who from 78 innings took 180 wickets. You may argue that Hazlewood for Cummins who has had a very poor WC with both bat and ball against the best in the world, and you could be right, but the difference is he at least took wickets against these elite players, Hazlewood couldn't take a wicket against a county side and there are 18 county sides, that's a lot of players most of whom would only play club cricket in Australia. My argument is that Jason Behrendorff who you would agree is a genuine wicket taker, has opened the bowling with Starc in the WC, has taken wickets at a great average and Strike rate, is Australia's 2nd best bowler ahead of Cummins Richardson and others, has a superior record to Hazlewood at FC level, but most importantly is fit and raring to go should be selected for the Ashes. After all it is only a back up position in case of injury. And if Australia needs another bowler as back up to the back up then maybe Josh Hazlewood. but why waste the money for the 2 month holiday when they can fly someone over if something goes wrong. As for Patterson he gets into the Australia side after producing 1 century in 2 years. Lucky he plays for NSW because if he played for any other state it would hardly be recognised let alone be selected for Australia, it just never happens. His record late in the season is poor, some blame the Duke but others would say that the century was just an anomaly and what we see now is the true Kurtis Patterson which is similar to what he produced for 2 years prior to his century. Same thing occurred with Nevill, selected for Australia after 1 good season and the rest has been garbage, even you would admit Nevill is lucky to be playing for NSW now. Patterson needs to prove for at least for another season of good results on the field at shield level. Looking at the CA contracts the scary thought is that the probable batting line up could read Warner, Harris, Khawaja, Smith, S Marsh, T Head T Paine. And an even scarier thought is no S Marsh and Patterson in the side. Patterson Head and Paine could only contribute 58 runs against a "county" side which is only 40% of what Harris or Burns made, and Burns could be sitting on the sidelines, no CA contract for him, so the selectors will be guided where the money is. If Harris and Burns are not both selected, Australia is automatically on the back foot. because we are not playing our best and Harris and Burns showed us that they are head and shoulders above the rest in the last game. At least 3 positions are up for grabs Warner, Smith and Khawaja are the only certainties and Smith form at the WC has been poor. That was always going to be a problem for Australia, Smith will be selected based on reputation only with no form to show from the last 18 months, and he will be given time to prove himself but by then the Ashes could be lost. That's why we need our best batsmen and bowlers to play. So do you really want Hazlewood and Patterson in the side? I certainly don't want a proven in-effective wicket taker and a questionable quality batsman. I want to win the Ashes.... do you Baggers?
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+x+x+x+x+x[quote]pattison's record is mcgrath like, I hope he gets another go at the top level! He probably only has to display a sustained spell of injury free cricket to gain selection. grazor. Reckon Pattinson is 'a lay down misere' to be in our Ashes attack. He had a strong Shield and county season.. and has 7 wickets in the Sussex game. The Hazlewood/Blues basher is back!!! CA will still want him in our Ashes attack.. I have to admit.. Haze does need to take wickets in these red ball warm up matches.. His economy rate tho is as miserly as ever.. pressure usually translates to wickets.. and there were plenty falling from the other end. I certainly would not be writing off Patterson after one failure in Pom conditions. Most of our batsmen struggle against the moving ball. Hazlewood has NEEDED to take more wickets for years now. Disagree with your constant excuse of him being miserly which lead to wickets. 2nd innings He and Neser opened the bowling and the only wicket to fall during those 12 overs was Neser getting an LBW with accurate bowling, it wasn't the batsman throwing the bat to get the scoring rate moving and being caught. From there it was the Pattinson, Bird and Holland show, Hazlewood didn't bowl again in the innings, so he had nothing to do with any of the wickets to fall. Last year's Test figures support your assertion, Mike.
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+x+x+x+x+xpattison's record is mcgrath like, I hope he gets another go at the top level! He probably only has to display a sustained spell of injury free cricket to gain selection. grazor. Reckon Pattinson is 'a lay down misere' to be in our Ashes attack. He had a strong Shield and county season.. and has 7 wickets in the Sussex game. The Hazlewood/Blues basher is back!!! CA will still want him in our Ashes attack.. I have to admit.. Haze does need to take wickets in these red ball warm up matches.. His economy rate tho is as miserly as ever.. pressure usually translates to wickets.. and there were plenty falling from the other end. I certainly would not be writing off Patterson after one failure in Pom conditions. Most of our batsmen struggle against the moving ball. My argument is that Jason Behrendorff who you would agree is a genuine wicket taker, has opened the bowling with Starc in the WC, has taken wickets at a great average and Strike rate, is Australia's 2nd best bowler ahead of Cummins Richardson and others, has a superior record to Hazlewood at FC level, but most importantly is fit and raring to go should be selected for the Ashes. After all it is only a back up position in case of injury. And if Australia needs another bowler as back up to the back up then maybe Josh Hazlewood. but why waste the money for the 2 month holiday when they can fly someone over if something goes wrong. Dorff has looked innocuous as the pitch flattens out at Bellerive in the last few seasons. Very good with the new ball though.
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Very interesting overnight play in the Australia A game. Burns finished as the highest scorer with 133 following his 180 in his last test outing. As Warner and Smith haven't played for nearly 18 months in the longer form so we don't know how they are going, though Warner does appear to be in a purple patch currently, one can argue that Burns is the number 1 ranked Australian test batsman, so surely he should be included for the first Ashes test. The current top 5 batsmen for Australia currently for Australia IMO would be Burns Warner Smith Khawaja and Harris........3 openers! one should play at No 3 or No 5/6, The incumbent openers are Burns and Harris. So what should Australia do?
In 28 test innings Burns has scored 4 centuries, comparatively Warner took 42 innings to score his 4th century and Smith took 35 innings to score his 4th century. Two of Burns centuries have been over 150, that is in only 28 innings (Warner took 82 innings to score his second score over 150 and Smith took 39 innings to score his second over 150)
Since Burns was wrongfully dropped from the side back in Sri Lanka, Openers Renshaw, Bancroft, Finch and Harris have played 55 innings combined and only Renshaw has scored a century. Time for Australian selectors to admit they made a mistake and leave Burns opening with no pressure of the axe, the others tried have been a failure in comparison to Burns.
However Joe Burns did not receive a CA contract so who thinks he will play in the Ashes series? S Marsh did receive one! Finch, Harris and Warner did receive one. The selectors will be forced to select from those that are paid the big bucks. This is to the detriment of Australian cricket.
Based on last nights performance Patterson has played himself out of the Australian side with a paltry 4 runs all scored from edges to 3rd man. Obviously Patterson has problems with the moving ball. His last sheffield shield scores against the Duke ball in Australia were 7 and 27 against Qld, 9 and 10 against Victoria 14 and 0 against Tasmania and 18 and 76 in the final against Victoria. That is an average of 18 against the swinging Duke in his last 9 innings. Obviously Patterson has technical issues that are exposed against any movement.
In comparison the mighty batsman Jackson Bird smashed a well controlled six with a mighty hook to get off the mark and followed it up with 2 classic drives for 4 in his little cameo. Showed more skill with the bat than Patterson,
With the bowlers making a mockery of the quality of the opposition, Holland with his 3/30 (6/79 for the match) has nailed down the 2nd spinner position and has put pressure on Lyon. Pattinson took 3/12 (7/74 for the match) surely is opening the attack in the first Ashes test. Bird bounced back with 3/18 (4/62 for the match). Neser, though many question his selection over many others such as Tremain and co, finished with 1/44 (3/89 for the match) so he probably justified his selection. And Josh Hazlewood finished the match with 0/53 from 25 overs. SSDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How can anyone seriously consider him for the Ashes is beyond me. This is against Australian grade cricket standard and he still could not take a wicket in 150 deliveries. Give Pattinson 150 deliveries he takes 7 wickets in the same conditions as Hazlewood bowled in. Send Hazlewood home now and give someone like Tremain and co. a go.
For the record of the 36 deliveries Hazlewood bowled in the 2nd innings the batsmen only had to play 14, scoring 7 runs, the other deliveries the batsmen let go through to the keeper with no danger in losing their wicket. In comparison Pattinson bowled 34 deliveries and only 5 went through to the keeper he made the batsmen play thus his 3 wickets.
But the real problem for Australia cricket currently is in all honesty Hazlewood contributed nothing in this particular game except give the opposition 53 runs he was not required and due to his inclusion the batting side was short one batsman and if you eliminated the openers contribution the rest of the side only made 131 runs 22 of which were extras. This is what we see at an international level,,,,the sacrifice of a batting position to cover the poor wicket taking ability of Hazlewood thus the need to play an all-rounder. The work was done by Pattinson, Neser, Bird and Holland, Hazlewood was a passenger making up numbers. For this he is paid nearly 2 million a year by CA. Pattinson has just received his CA contract and rightly so but the other 3 are on state contracts only. This money would be better spent on the grass roots development especially in the coaching department.
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I would take Pattinson over any of our bowlers right now. The guy is a freak
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+xI would take Pattinson over any of our bowlers right now. The guy is a freak Grazor are you that confident that the selectors won't go Hazlewood, Starc, Cummins and Lyons with a possible all-rounder to back Hazlewood up, as they are known to do that, for the first test. I would not bet my life, nor my house, nor my wife on Pattinson playing the first test. We all know Pattinson is the best we have and he has to play, but if Hazlewood comes out and takes a bagful of wickets in the next Australia A game and lets be honest the opposition isn't that good, (thus I'm not crowing about Bird and Neser who outbowled our "ïnternational" rep in the last game), but Hazlewood couldn't take a single wicket in 150 deliveries against these guys (Pattinson took 7 wickets in 150 deliveries), and Hazlewood has 45 tests under his belt, the selectors will be crowing as will Baggers, regardless of his pathetic performance to date. If you're from NSW 1 game is all it takes to retain position. If Neser comes out and takes 10 wickets in the next game and I started commenting that he should be playing for Australia you would all lock me up in a funny farm, and rightly so.
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+x+xI would take Pattinson over any of our bowlers right now. The guy is a freak If Neser comes out and takes 10 wickets in the next game and I started commenting that he should be playing for Australia you would all lock me up in a funny farm, and rightly so. I'm a big Neser fan from what I've seen of him bowling at Bellerive in the Shield, One Day and the international game Aus A against Sri Lanka last season. I think his action takes a bit out of him though. A guy like Copeland can bowl all day with minimal effort.
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+x+x+xI would take Pattinson over any of our bowlers right now. The guy is a freak If Neser comes out and takes 10 wickets in the next game and I started commenting that he should be playing for Australia you would all lock me up in a funny farm, and rightly so. I'm a big Neser fan from what I've seen of him bowling at Bellerive in the Shield, One Day and the international game Aus A against Sri Lanka last season. I think his action takes a bit out of him though. A guy like Copeland can bowl all day with minimal effort. Copeland would be most useful in England, imo.
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+x+x+x+xI would take Pattinson over any of our bowlers right now. The guy is a freak If Neser comes out and takes 10 wickets in the next game and I started commenting that he should be playing for Australia you would all lock me up in a funny farm, and rightly so. I'm a big Neser fan from what I've seen of him bowling at Bellerive in the Shield, One Day and the international game Aus A against Sri Lanka last season. I think his action takes a bit out of him though. A guy like Copeland can bowl all day with minimal effort. Copeland would be most useful in England, imo. He would indeed. I was pushing for him to make our Ashes attack.. so was Michael Vaughan. CA simply does not rate him.
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+x+x+x+x+xI would take Pattinson over any of our bowlers right now. The guy is a freak If Neser comes out and takes 10 wickets in the next game and I started commenting that he should be playing for Australia you would all lock me up in a funny farm, and rightly so. I'm a big Neser fan from what I've seen of him bowling at Bellerive in the Shield, One Day and the international game Aus A against Sri Lanka last season. I think his action takes a bit out of him though. A guy like Copeland can bowl all day with minimal effort. Copeland would be most useful in England, imo. He would indeed. I was pushing for him to make our Ashes attack.. so was Michael Vaughan. CA simply does not rate him. Smith form at the WC has been poor. That was always going to be a problem for Australia, Smith will be selected based on reputation only with no form to show from the last 18 months,
You are kidding. 375 @38 is not a bad WC. Many of Smith's runs came when the sluggers went early and he as per usual has to dig us out of a big hole. Just like he did in the semi. He was head and shoulders above any other Aussie bat in that game. Those types of players.. alla Steve Waugh are worth gold. Smith is the first player picked in my Ashes squad. Patterson deserves another shot tho his form since his Test ton has been patchy. Burns has been unlucky yet again. But I reckon that is because the selectors rate both Bancroft and Harris as better technicians over Joe. Bancroft has been piling on recent runs for Durham in the county league so he gets my vote as Warner's partner for first test.
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+x+x+x+x+xI would take Pattinson over any of our bowlers right now. The guy is a freak If Neser comes out and takes 10 wickets in the next game and I started commenting that he should be playing for Australia you would all lock me up in a funny farm, and rightly so. I'm a big Neser fan from what I've seen of him bowling at Bellerive in the Shield, One Day and the international game Aus A against Sri Lanka last season. I think his action takes a bit out of him though. A guy like Copeland can bowl all day with minimal effort. Copeland would be most useful in England, imo. He would indeed. I was pushing for him to make our Ashes attack.. so was Michael Vaughan. CA simply does not rate him. Love Copeland last season with the Duke ball. IMO he was best bowler I saw in the Shield last season from all states.
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+xI would take Pattinson over any of our bowlers right now. The guy is a freak Yep me too. I would also have Behrendorff over Starc. Dorff has waited long enuff for a shot at a Test.. only concern is will his back take a five day game?
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Australia like to have at least 1 line and length bowler that can bowl long spells. Hazelwood has been our choice for that
can Cummins play the Hazelwood role?
For balance you need 2 line and length bowlers, a tearaway quick and a spinner. If your spinner performs well enough or you have a good enough all rounder maybe you can have 2 tearaways
so I don't know if starc and pattinson can play in the same team unless our all rounder can bowl a few more overs than normal
Pattinson just has to play though. How many have we had that averages 21 with the ball over a sustained period? Not to mention averaging nearly 30 with the bat....
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+xAustralia like to have at least 1 line and length bowler that can bowl long spells. Hazelwood has been our choice for that can Cummins play the Hazelwood role? For balance you need 2 line and length bowlers, a tearaway quick and a spinner. If your spinner performs well enough or you have a good enough all rounder maybe you can have 2 tearaways so I don't know if starc and pattinson can play in the same team unless our all rounder can bowl a few more overs than normal Pattinson just has to play though. How many have we had that averages 21 with the ball over a sustained period? Not to mention averaging nearly 30 with the bat.... With you totally grazor re the importance of balance. Cummins can play both roles.. tearaway and line and length merchant. The reason imho he is our most valuable red ball quick at the moment. Pattinson is also capable of playing both roles. But I wanna see him as the enforcer.. as I admire his mongrel and passion. CA has to bite the bullet and axe Starc for the Ashes. Haze makes the first test but there are a couple breathing down his neck so he has to nail the opener with a brace of wickets.
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+x+xAustralia like to have at least 1 line and length bowler that can bowl long spells. Hazelwood has been our choice for that can Cummins play the Hazelwood role? For balance you need 2 line and length bowlers, a tearaway quick and a spinner. If your spinner performs well enough or you have a good enough all rounder maybe you can have 2 tearaways so I don't know if starc and pattinson can play in the same team unless our all rounder can bowl a few more overs than normal Pattinson just has to play though. How many have we had that averages 21 with the ball over a sustained period? Not to mention averaging nearly 30 with the bat.... With you totally grazor re the importance of balance. Cummins can play both roles.. tearaway and line and length merchant. The reason imho he is our most valuable red ball quick at the moment. Pattinson is also capable of playing both roles. But I wanna see him as the enforcer.. as I admire his mongrel and passion. CA has to bite the bullet and axe Starc for the Ashes. Haze makes the first test but there are a couple breathing down his neck so he has to nail the opener with a brace of wickets. The Aussie A vs England Lions match is on tonite. Please someone at least provide a replay.
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Just in CA has selected the players vying for an Ashes berth that will play in the Australia vs Australia A match on July 23.
Squad: Cameron Bancroft, Jackson Bird, Joe Burns, Alex Carey, Pat Cummins, Peter Handscomb, Marcus Harris, Josh Hazlewood, Jon Holland, Travis Head, Usman Khawaja, Marnus Labuschagne, Nathan Lyon, Mitchell Marsh, Michael Neser, Tim Paine, Kurtis Patterson, James Pattinson, Will Pucovski, Peter Siddle, Steve Smith, Mitchell Starc, Chris Tremain, Matthew Wade, David Warner.
Siddle. This bloke just keeps bobbing up. Pleased to see Bancroft and Labu chosen purely on their efforts in County cricket. Alex Carey also made the cut. Not sure I agree with the Handscomb selection.
CA should think outside the box and bring in Smith and Warner against the Lions. These two have not played red ball cricket for 18 months.
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+xJust in CA has selected the players vying for an Ashes berth that will play in the Australia vs Australia A match on July 23.
Squad: Cameron Bancroft, Jackson Bird, Joe Burns, Alex Carey, Pat Cummins, Peter Handscomb, Marcus Harris, Josh Hazlewood, Jon Holland, Travis Head, Usman Khawaja, Marnus Labuschagne, Nathan Lyon, Mitchell Marsh, Michael Neser, Tim Paine, Kurtis Patterson, James Pattinson, Will Pucovski, Peter Siddle, Steve Smith, Mitchell Starc, Chris Tremain, Matthew Wade, David Warner.
Siddle. This bloke just keeps bobbing up. Pleased to see Bancroft and Labu chosen purely on their efforts in County cricket. Alex Carey also made the cut. Not sure I agree with the Handscomb selection. CA should think outside the box and bring in Smith and Warner against the Lions. These two have not played red ball cricket for 18 months. My X11 for first Ashes Test: Warner Bancroft Smith Khawaja Pucovski Labuchagne Paine Cummins Pattinson Hazlewood Lyon. Carey (12th). Reserves: Patterson/Burns/Harris, M Marsh/Neser, Siddle/Bird/Tremain.
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Play underway in Canterbury. Lions won toss.. does an Australian cricket side ever win a toss? | EL | Zak Crawley, Dominic Sibley, Ben Foakes (wk), Sam Northeast, James Bracey, Sam Hain, Sam Curran,Lewis Gregory (c), Ollie Robinson, Jack Leach, Jamie Porter | | AUS | Joe Burns, Marcus Harris, Kurtis Patterson, Travis Head, Matthew Wade, Mitchell Marsh, Tim Paine (c/wk), Michael Neser, Chris Tremain, Jackson Bird,Jon Holland |
Sam Hain is Aussie -born. Burns goes early. Aussie A 1-49 after 16.
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+xPlay underway in Canterbury. Lions won toss.. does an Australian cricket side ever win a toss? | EL | Zak Crawley, Dominic Sibley, Ben Foakes (wk), Sam Northeast, James Bracey, Sam Hain, Sam Curran,Lewis Gregory (c), Ollie Robinson, Jack Leach, Jamie Porter | | AUS | Joe Burns, Marcus Harris, Kurtis Patterson, Travis Head, Matthew Wade, Mitchell Marsh, Tim Paine (c/wk), Michael Neser, Chris Tremain, Jackson Bird,Jon Holland |
Sam Hain is Aussie -born. Burns goes early. Aussie A 1-49 after 16. Baggers, I believe Sam Hain was born in HK. But that he arrived in Australia very young. Then he did all his schooling in Australia and played for Australia U19s.
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+x+xPlay underway in Canterbury. Lions won toss.. does an Australian cricket side ever win a toss? | EL | Zak Crawley, Dominic Sibley, Ben Foakes (wk), Sam Northeast, James Bracey, Sam Hain, Sam Curran,Lewis Gregory (c), Ollie Robinson, Jack Leach, Jamie Porter | | AUS | Joe Burns, Marcus Harris, Kurtis Patterson, Travis Head, Matthew Wade, Mitchell Marsh, Tim Paine (c/wk), Michael Neser, Chris Tremain, Jackson Bird,Jon Holland |
Sam Hain is Aussie -born. Burns goes early. Aussie A 1-49 after 16. Baggers, I believe Sam Hain was born in HK. But that he arrived in Australia very young. Then he did all his schooling in Australia and played for Australia U19s. Thanks for info quickflick. Yes Hain was born in Honkers. Same place as my wife's family. Can not find out anymore on him re Oz. I do have a problem with the eligibility process in this country in not only cricket but other sports. I believe a sportsperson should play for the country of their birth. No if or buts. This criteria of permitting someone to play for another country because of the birthplace of their grandparents or even parents is a nonsense.
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+x+x+xPlay underway in Canterbury. Lions won toss.. does an Australian cricket side ever win a toss? | EL | Zak Crawley, Dominic Sibley, Ben Foakes (wk), Sam Northeast, James Bracey, Sam Hain, Sam Curran,Lewis Gregory (c), Ollie Robinson, Jack Leach, Jamie Porter | | AUS | Joe Burns, Marcus Harris, Kurtis Patterson, Travis Head, Matthew Wade, Mitchell Marsh, Tim Paine (c/wk), Michael Neser, Chris Tremain, Jackson Bird,Jon Holland |
Sam Hain is Aussie -born. Burns goes early. Aussie A 1-49 after 16. Baggers, I believe Sam Hain was born in HK. But that he arrived in Australia very young. Then he did all his schooling in Australia and played for Australia U19s. Thanks for info quickflick. Yes Hain was born in Honkers. Same place as my wife's family. Can not find out anymore on him re Oz. I do have a problem with the eligibility process in this country in not only cricket but other sports. I believe a sportsperson should play for the country of their birth. No if or buts. This criteria of permitting someone to play for another country because of the birthplace of their grandparents or even parents is a nonsense. Baggers, with respect, can I ask you to think that through? Not everybody grows up in the same country that they're born in. Lots of families emigrate when children are young If the rule 'a sportsperson should play for the country of their birth. No ifs or buts' were followed literally, you then would have to say that Khawaja should play for Pakistan, Renshaw should play for England and Labushagne should play for South Africa. Do you realise they were respectively born in Pakistan, the UK and South Africa? Yet they moved to Australia as children. Labushagne was ten, so you could argue he grew up half in both countries. But Renshaw and Khawaja were very small children when they came to Australia. Their memories are all of Australia. Which countries should they play for? +x+x+xPlay underway in Canterbury. Lions won toss.. does an Australian cricket side ever win a toss? | EL | Zak Crawley, Dominic Sibley, Ben Foakes (wk), Sam Northeast, James Bracey, Sam Hain, Sam Curran,Lewis Gregory (c), Ollie Robinson, Jack Leach, Jamie Porter | | AUS | Joe Burns, Marcus Harris, Kurtis Patterson, Travis Head, Matthew Wade, Mitchell Marsh, Tim Paine (c/wk), Michael Neser, Chris Tremain, Jackson Bird,Jon Holland |
Sam Hain is Aussie -born. Burns goes early. Aussie A 1-49 after 16. Baggers, I believe Sam Hain was born in HK. But that he arrived in Australia very young. Then he did all his schooling in Australia and played for Australia U19s. This criteria of permitting someone to play for another country because of the birthplace of their grandparents or even parents is a nonsense. I'm not comfortable with it, either. I always say that your memories and experiences are uniquely yours. They are not those of your parents. But, imo, it's even worse to stop a player from representing a country just because they weren't born there. Who can remember their birth? Nobody. For me the criteria should be - in which country did you grow up the most? Where are your childhood memories? Where did you go to school? Where did you form your childhood friendships? Where did you learn to play the sport? That's just my opinion.
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101 for head
he's working up his first class average slowly and he's done it by playing a LOT of cricket
I think a lot of our problems at the moment could be fixed with a longer season!
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+x101 for head he's working up his first class average slowly and he's done it by playing a LOT of cricket I think a lot of our problems at the moment could be fixed with a longer season! He is grazor. Wade also with a ton. Both now serious Ashes contenders. Well batted by Patterson and Harris for taking the shine off the ball for these two to plunder the Lions attack. Agree. Do the Poms play 10 FC games and stop there? No they play almost double that. I like the fact that some of our boys get to improve in Pommie conditions in our off season. But 12 Shield rounds would make no difference to them making the pilgrimage as the first County Championship match does not start until early April.
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+x+x101 for head he's working up his first class average slowly and he's done it by playing a LOT of cricket I think a lot of our problems at the moment could be fixed with a longer season! He is grazor. Wade also with a ton. Both now serious Ashes contenders. Well batted by Patterson and Harris for taking the shine off the ball for these two to plunder the Lions attack. I would have thought Head is a dead cert, as he was quite consistent in home Tests last Aus summer.
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wade with a 100 as well
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yes maybe 3-4 shield and 3-4 odi matches a year could make a world of difference
only comp in ok shape is t20 at the moment
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wow we collapse and only add 36 this morning!
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oz-a well on top with bird the stand out
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+xoz-a well on top with bird the stand out Bird took 2- 36 off 18 overs. Tons to Head and Wade in the Aus innings.
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Tremain with the best figures 4-70. Likely Tremain, Bird and Siddle are battling it out for the fifth pace bowling spot in our Ashes squad.
Going on the low scores must not be an easy batting deck. Wade sconed .. is in doubt for the all Aussie match.
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Would you say Neser is out of it? Saw some highlights of his wickets yesterday and theyre exactly the type of deliveries to be bowling on English decks
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+xWould you say Neser is out of it? Saw some highlights of his wickets yesterday and theyre exactly the type of deliveries to be bowling on English decks If CA is thinking an all rounder.. I wud prefer Neser over Marsh on form over past 12 months.
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I know hes put better numbers with the bat recently but Neser still averages 27 in FC with the bat. But he'd be handy as a backup bowler. Especially if a Pattinson or Cummins need replacing because Neser is a lot better with the bat than Tremain, Bird or Siddle. To me the squad is firming as Harris Warner Khawaja Smith Head Labuschagne Paine Cummins Starc Pattinson/Hazlewood Lyon WIth the other 4 being Burns, Wade, Neser/Tremain/Bird/Siddle, Holland. Only uncertainties being who the second backup bowler is and whether Wade is fit enough. But the selectors also love some smokeys.
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