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Agar bowling beautifully. Tasmanians all of a sudden seem to have forgotten how to use their feet. And first ball of Richo’s new spell he finds his length with a beauty! Partnership needed for Tas, as M.Marsh was looking dangerous too

 Vintage George Bailey.. lacked support.  Tigers will rue dropping Short twice before he scored 50. Yes Agar is looking the goods. Unlucky not to get 5. 
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baggygreenmania - 25 Sep 2019 7:52 PM
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 Vintage George Bailey.. lacked support.  Tigers will rue dropping Short twice before he scored 50. Yes Agar is looking the goods. Unlucky not to get 5. 

Consistency seems to be the key word with the Tigers. Moments of brilliance but they need to capitalise.
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 Vintage George Bailey.. lacked support.  Tigers will rue dropping Short twice before he scored 50. Yes Agar is looking the goods. Unlucky not to get 5. 

Warriors dropped a few, too. What was it...5?? Luckily they had the runs on the board.



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yeah stanlake looked hopeless in england but looks to have learnt to use his delivery height a bit better

delivery height is such a weapon because you need to move your eyes when facing the ball
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So far so good for Stanlake, but I'll wait to see how he performs against Victoria in Victoria, the next 2 games for Qld, very strange scheduling same opposition 4 days apart.

NSW off to a blinder Jack Edwards 1st ball duck and Henriques lasted 3 deliveries for his duck.
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MikeR - 26 Sep 2019 9:40 AM
So far so good for Stanlake, but I'll wait to see how he performs against Victoria in Victoria, the next 2 games for Qld, very strange scheduling same opposition 4 days apart.

NSW off to a blinder Jack Edwards 1st ball duck and Henriques lasted 3 deliveries for his duck.

I was impressed with Jack Edwards in a Shield game in Hobart last year, both batting and bowling.

It might have been a rare consistent game though.
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Decentric - 26 Sep 2019 9:43 AM
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I was impressed with Jack Edwards in a Shield game in Hobart last year, both batting and bowling.

It might have been a rare consistent game though.

I don't mind the look of Edwards as a FC all rounder, had a good U19 WC campaign, batted well in his List A games last year but followed it up with an ordinary year last year at shield level, but he's only young.

As I write NSW lose another Hughes for 7 now 3/13. Beautiful batting pitch at the AB field, must be the overcast conditions.
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grazorblade - 26 Sep 2019 4:33 AM
yeah stanlake looked hopeless in england but looks to have learnt to use his delivery height a bit better

delivery height is such a weapon because you need to move your eyes when facing the ball

Interesting insight  about extreme height in pace bowling, Grazor.
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Walked away from the computer to make a cuppa, 2 more gone, Patterson really struggles against any movement and Nick Bertus following up his first good game with a poor defence to chop the ball onto the stumps. This game could be over by midday. Not really great bowling, poor batting
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MikeR - 26 Sep 2019 9:40 AM
So far so good for Stanlake, but I'll wait to see how he performs against Victoria in Victoria, the next 2 games for Qld, very strange scheduling same opposition 4 days apart.

NSW off to a blinder Jack Edwards 1st ball duck and Henriques lasted 3 deliveries for his duck.

Mike must have given up what he usually does while a match is on and tuned in when he saw the Blues get off to a shocker. He is in his element now.. with the Blues imploding at 5 down after 10 on what looks a helpful track for the quicks. 

DC Edwards is another coming from pathway cricket into senior with a dodgy technique. Last year he was actually moving his back foot way to the on side to play his shots. A former player/comm. said he was astounded. I have watched him closely since and someone has had a word in his shelllike as the movement is no where near as pronounced as it was.
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So far so good for Stanlake. 
He like most quicks with immature bone structure has had back stress fractures. I fear with his jumping action in his delivery stride that he is a candidate for further foot and knee injuries. If fit he is a big chance to make our WC T20 squad
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baggygreenmania - 26 Sep 2019 10:35 AM
So far so good for Stanlake. 
He like most quicks with immature bone structure has had back stress fractures. I fear with his jumping action in his delivery stride that he is a candidate for further foot and knee injuries. If fit he is a big chance to make our WC T20 squad

The under rated Daniel Sams getting Blues back on track.
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Mike must have given up what he usually does while a match is on and tuned in when he saw the Blues get off to a shocker. He is in his element now.. with the Blues imploding at 5 down after 10 on what looks a helpful track for the quicks. 

DC Edwards is another coming from pathway cricket into senior with a dodgy technique. Last year he was actually moving his back foot way to the on side to play his shots. A former player/comm. said he was astounded. I have watched him closely since and someone has had a word in his shelllike as the movement is no where near as pronounced as it was.

No Baggers I went to the game Qld V NSW and also Qld V SA. So this is the first time I've watched the games on the net.

Lloyd Pope on now Baggers, playing his first List A game, hasn't done a great deal at FC level but have to keep reminding myself he has just turned 19, a lot to still learn
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baggygreenmania - 26 Sep 2019 10:37 AM
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The under rated Daniel Sams getting Blues back on track.

Are you saying he's not rated in NSW? I was wondering why he has played so little and is 27. Hasn't lived up to FC but he was excellent last year. Couple of 50's and a few wickets, I would have thought automatic selection for NSW one day team. But I do have a question on him is he eligible for NZ or Australia?
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baggygreenmania - 26 Sep 2019 10:37 AM
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The under rated Daniel Sams getting Blues back on track.

Blues will be lucky to get 180. 
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MikeR - 26 Sep 2019 10:51 AM
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Are you saying he's not rated in NSW? I was wondering why he has played so little and is 27. Hasn't lived up to FC but he was excellent last year. Couple of 50's and a few wickets, I would have thought automatic selection for NSW one day team. But I do have a question on him is he eligible for NZ or Australia?

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Blues will be lucky to get 180. 

I was pretty close. At least Nevill and Sams plus a couple of cameos from Nair and Abbott added some respectability.
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No Baggers I went to the game Qld V NSW and also Qld V SA. So this is the first time I've watched the games on the net.

Lloyd Pope on now Baggers, playing his first List A game, hasn't done a great deal at FC level but have to keep reminding myself he has just turned 19, a lot to still learn

Yep.. a baby as far as leggies go. Pity you did not use the same premise about Jason Sangha when you were rubbishing him at 18 and 19. He has just turned 20. Ready for a breakout summer from him.
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baggygreenmania - 26 Sep 2019 12:49 PM
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Yep.. a baby as far as leggies go. Pity you did not use the same premise about Jason Sangha when you were rubbishing him at 18 and 19. He has just turned 20. Ready for a breakout summer from him.

Sams getting some good swing. Finally Abbott gets one on the money. Had been bowling pies up to that point.
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baggygreenmania - 26 Sep 2019 1:08 PM
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Sams getting some good swing. Finally Abbott gets one on the money. Had been bowling pies up to that point.

What was Carey's innings like?
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What was Carey's innings like?

Solid. Just when he looks in total control he habitually falls. Must be frustrating for the coach.
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baggygreenmania - 26 Sep 2019 2:56 PM
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Solid. Just when he looks in total control he habitually falls. Must be frustrating for the coach.

Well that was lame by the Blues. Some new blood is needed to enliven our cricket. Out with the dead wood.
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baggygreenmania - 26 Sep 2019 10:30 AM
MikeR - 26 Sep 2019 9:40 AM

Mike must have given up what he usually does while a match is on and tuned in when he saw the Blues get off to a shocker. He is in his element now.. with the Blues imploding at 5 down after 10 on what looks a helpful track for the quicks. 



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baggygreenmania - 26 Sep 2019 10:30 AM
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DC Edwards is another coming from pathway cricket into senior with a dodgy technique. Last year he was actually moving his back foot way to the on side to play his shots. A former player/comm. said he was astounded. I have watched him closely since and someone has had a word in his shelllike as the movement is no where near as pronounced as it was.

Interesting technical analysis of Jack E, Baggers.
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MikeR - 26 Sep 2019 10:44 AM
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No Baggers I went to the game Qld V NSW and also Qld V SA. So this is the first time I've watched the games on the net.

Lloyd Pope on now Baggers, playing his first List A game, hasn't done a great deal at FC level but have to keep reminding myself he has just turned 19, a lot to still learn

I really hope Pope can  kick on.

I think he took seven wickets in an innings last season in the Shield.
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MikeR - 26 Sep 2019 10:51 AM
baggygreenmania - 26 Sep 2019 10:37 AM

Are you saying he's not rated in NSW? I was wondering why he has played so little and is 27. Hasn't lived up to FC but he was excellent last year. Couple of 50's and a few wickets, I would have thought automatic selection for NSW one day team. But I do have a question on him is he eligible for NZ or Australia?

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baggygreenmania - 26 Sep 2019 12:49 PM
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Yep.. a baby as far as leggies go. Pity you did not use the same premise about Jason Sangha when you were rubbishing him at 18 and 19. He has just turned 20. Ready for a breakout summer from him.

Baggers do yourself a favour and read this NSW article and place yourself in the shoes of some poor kid who may show talent yet his/her parents cannot afford to develop those skills, Meanwhile CA promote certain individuals, many in financial ways, many of whom come from families that can afford cricket (eg Austin Waugh or Will Sutherland). The system is failing so much so it has become an elitist sport here in Australia.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/we-are-bleeding-every-year-how-the-cricket-crisis-is-affecting-the-grassroots-20190720-p5293d.html

So when the highly promoted, by the media, CA, and even yourself, Jason Sangha fails to live up to expectations after all the leg ups and hand outs he has received during his development years, it isn't about Sangha himself it is about the wasted money in the CA program, money that would be better spent in the true grass root areas of the sport keeping some of these cricket clubs from folding, abolishing cricket playing fees. helping underprivileged kids get an opportunity. It's a sport that should be available to everyone, not just an elite few. My criticism isn't about Jason Sangha it's about the failing CA programs, which are now affecting us on an international level, CA cannot help themselves they just keep throwing money at an elite few so selectors have no option but to continue playing these elite few at an international level regardless of their performances.. CA cannot identify talent at an early age of 13-14 and then spend money on just those individuals whilst others give the sport away. When Jason Sangha fails it is a good thing for the juniors, maybe CA may start putting money back into the grass roots, because what they're doing now is destroying cricket. Jason Sangha has never dominated Under age championships, rarely made the top 5 batsmen at these championships, yet still received promotion, including the captaincy of the U19 youth team when he was lucky to be selected in the first place, if selection was to be based on on field performance (8th in runs scored 9th in averages). He wasn't alone there are others that seem to have disappear from the cricket scene. But don't hold your breath whilst waiting for CA to wake up to the true problem.

http://www.nationalchamps.com.au/common/pages/public/rv/cricket/battingav.aspx?entityid=17240&id=RV_CBA&

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MikeR - 27 Sep 2019 5:51 AM
baggygreenmania - 26 Sep 2019 12:49 PM

Baggers do yourself a favour and read this NSW article and place yourself in the shoes of some poor kid who may show talent yet his/her parents cannot afford to develop those skills, Meanwhile CA promote certain individuals, many in financial ways, many of whom come from families that can afford cricket (eg Austin Waugh or Will Sutherland). The system is failing so much so it has become an elitist sport here in Australia.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/we-are-bleeding-every-year-how-the-cricket-crisis-is-affecting-the-grassroots-20190720-p5293d.html

So when the highly promoted, by the media, CA, and even yourself, Jason Sangha fails to live up to expectations after all the leg ups and hand outs he has received during his development years, it isn't about Sangha himself it is about the wasted money in the CA program, money that would be better spent in the true grass root areas of the sport keeping some of these cricket clubs from folding, abolishing cricket playing fees. helping underprivileged kids get an opportunity. It's a sport that should be available to everyone, not just an elite few. My criticism isn't about Jason Sangha it's about the failing CA programs, which are now affecting us on an international level, CA cannot help themselves they just keep throwing money at an elite few so selectors have no option but to continue playing these elite few at an international level regardless of their performances.. CA cannot identify talent at an early age of 13-14 and then spend money on just those individuals whilst others give the sport away. When Jason Sangha fails it is a good thing for the juniors, maybe CA may start putting money back into the grass roots, because what they're doing now is destroying cricket. Jason Sangha has never dominated Under age championships, rarely made the top 5 batsmen at these championships, yet still received promotion, including the captaincy of the U19 youth team when he was lucky to be selected in the first place, if selection was to be based on on field performance (8th in runs scored 9th in averages). He wasn't alone there are others that seem to have disappear from the cricket scene. But don't hold your breath whilst waiting for CA to wake up to the true problem.

http://www.nationalchamps.com.au/common/pages/public/rv/cricket/battingav.aspx?entityid=17240&id=RV_CBA&

Mike we have already had this conversation. I dont give a fig where our best young cricketers come from. If some, due to socio- economic aspects are not getting into the pathway then CA is lacking in its responsibility.

This is something I have been banging on about forever.. our best youngsters are coming into red ball cricket with a white ball mentality and no solid technique. How the hell are they expected to slip seamlessly into a format almost foreign to them because of the lack of red ball coaching and playing during their pathway years. 
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Mike we have already had this conversation. I dont give a fig where our best young cricketers come from. If some, due to socio- economic aspects are not getting into the pathway then CA is lacking in its responsibility.

This is something I have been banging on about forever.. our best youngsters are coming into red ball cricket with a white ball mentality and no solid technique. How the hell are they expected to slip seamlessly into a format almost foreign to them because of the lack of red ball coaching and playing during their pathway years. 

I recall you pushing the case for Nathan McSweeney a while back. Well Mike while you are rubbishing Sangha your beloved Qlander was 24 places below Sangha in the 2015/16 U19 rankings and 14 places the following year. Sangha improved markedly every year of the three as a U19 rep. I know who my money is on to play Test cricket for Australia first out of the two..
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I recall you pushing the case for Nathan McSweeney a while back. Well Mike while you are rubbishing Sangha your beloved Qlander was 24 places below Sangha in the 2015/16 U19 rankings and 14 places the following year. Sangha improved markedly every year of the three as a U19 rep. I know who my money is on to play Test cricket for Australia first out of the two..

Nathan McSweeney is exactly where Nathan McSweeney should be, playing Futures along with players like Corey Hunter. Scoring runs like they should be, developing their games, not being promoted prematurely to appease the powers that be, how many ducks last year for Sangha? He's not ready and it is quite dangerous for him as we all saw last year he can't play short stuff. That's all we need another Philip Hughes tragedy.

Just for you Baggers here is a recent game for McSweeney and Hunter, in Futures, look at the bowling attack for Tasmania, I'd say performing quite well currently, but I have never ever said either will ever play for Australia, born on the wrong side of the border for that to ever happen. They're just players trying to get a career and in all likelihood just get the step up to FC level, not too many places there currently for Qld, but I would say both are nearly first in line now if a place should open.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8765/scorecard/1149975/tasmania-under-23s-vs-queensland-under-23s-5th-match-futures-league-2018-19

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Whats the deal with Sangha's bowling? Is he useful, or just been lucky with the wickets so far?

What's the story with Austin Waugh, he was meant to be a next big thing for a while. Where is he at right now?
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