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Paddles - 27 Sep 2019 2:11 PM
Whats the deal with Sangha's bowling? Is he useful, or just been lucky with the wickets so far?

What's the story with Austin Waugh, he was meant to be a next big thing for a while. Where is he at right now?

Sangha is a leggie. The times I have seen him roll over the arm he has looked the goods. Must be seen as all round material otherwise CA isn't going to invest time/money having him at their Spin Camp two years running.

No idea what has happened to Austin Waugh. Have to ask Tugger.
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baggygreenmania - 27 Sep 2019 3:37 PM
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Sangha is a leggie. The times I have seen him roll over the arm he has looked the goods. Must be seen as all round material otherwise CA isn't going to invest time/money having him at their Spin Camp two years running.

No idea what has happened to Austin Waugh. Have to ask Tugger.

I'm surprised Baggers, I thought you followed NSW cricket.

Austin Waugh is playing First Class cricket for Sutherland. Last year he played 15 matches for them and averaged 15. I know that sounds really bad and it is, not even in the top 200 in NSW grade cricket, but when you compare to say Jason Sangha who averaged 29 (didn't make top 100), anything may happen. Austin Waugh with the ball he averaged 70.

Here's a few names for you Paddles to look out for in the future from NSW, as an unbiased point of view
Justin Avendano good opening bat
Blake MacDonald 21 averaged 87 from 10 grade games last year and developing well in Futures
Daniel Solway really good batsman and keeps wicket, but all the push presently is on Baxter Holt as the keeper which is fine because he is a good keeper but his batting needs to improve slightly, but like Baggers says keeping first batting a bonus.
Jack Edwards, Baggers doesn't rate him as much as I do but he is consistently performing at the lower grades av 46 last year
Ryan Hackney only 20 has been really consistent in Futures slightly off at club level av 38 but does have potential
Lachlan Hearne only 19 same sort of form as Hackney

A few I'm still undecided on Param Uppal in an all round capacity only av 32 at club level, needs to improve his bowling, Oliver Davis 19 years of age but like Sangha been given lots of opportunities, has never really performed. At U19 level a few scores around 50 but has never gone on with it, intermingled with really low scores (against Pakistan U19  scores of 0 and 3), sort of like Patterson at FC level hard to really judge. Only averaged 32 at grade level, scraping into the top 80 at Grade level, but he's young lots of time to improve.

But that's the funny thing about NSW grade cricket, some really good players are around that seem to be ignored by NSW
Nicolas Bertus, getting some opportunity now at 26 av 77 last year at NSW grade cricket
Jay Lenton av 60 last year but seems to be pigeon-holed as T20

NSW cricket have their favourites who they continually promote regardless of poor performance or producing consistent quality performances that make you sit up and take notice, meanwhile good quality players who do just that are continuously ignored. Just like Jason Sangha, but his brother Tanveer is one to watch, good leggie playing in NSW, that's where he will develop and only 18, Bowled at 26 last year but there is a lot of competition with Nair, Fallins, Sams, Uppal....only one position really available. But as you can see quite a few quality players around but ultimately only 11 places in the NSW side and then in 3 years there will be more to come along. Probably why I can't understand continued selection of players like Henriques, Neville, Sangha, who continually fail for NSW when they do have other that should be given a go.

But then you question the level of NSW grade cricket when Adam Crosthwaite who failed at FC for Victoria, is still dominating NSW grade cricket at the age of 36 with an average of 70 as is Peter Forrest who was a complete failure for Qld averaging 60. Bowling wise David Warner averaged 18 in Grade cricket might also tell you something. Be interesting to see Baggers take on what I've said, but it is unbiased as I have no favourites in NSW cricket.

They really are playing their best when it comes to bowling, Pat Cummins (av 6) Harry Conway (av 15), Charlie Stobo (av 17), Trent Copeland (av 18), Sean Abbot (av 20), Mickey Edwards (av 22). My trivia question for the day is who was ranked 115 in NSW premier league last year with an average of 30?
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 I still follow cricket in my state outside of state level Mike. Surprise.. surprise you actually posting something positive about a cricketer south of the border. Wonders shall never cease.
Was taking a look at Avendano and Henry Hunt.. a couple of Canberra products.. As much as I welcome them at the Blues .. it is about time that the ACT had its own Shield side. Avendano last two FL seasons - 253 @63 and 425 @47.. not too shabby. Henry Hunt is a newcomer who blew away the opposition last year with 464 @77 from a mere 3 matches. Baxter Holt had a goodish season with the bat .. 260 @86.. 151 t/s. Matthew Gilkes another fine ACT prospect.. a keeper.. 349 @49. Your bloke Mike.. Corey Hunter 375 @75 .. also not too shabby. Not even 20 yet. Nathan McSweeney went ok too.. 231 @46. Blake McDonald not so good.. @29 and @31 last two FL seasons. Yet another from national capital.
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baggygreenmania - 28 Sep 2019 10:20 AM

I certainly dont agree with you over Oliver Davies. You love rubbishing kids that are still finding their feet in senior cricket.
Not that this is any great criteria to any top level red ball he may play.. but he was one of few to score a 200 in a national U19 match.. perhaps the only one. Not sure what stats you are seeing but he starred in the U19 YODI series against the Kiwis in July.. scores of  59, 48, 51.. two wkts plus a couple of half centuries in Sri Lanka in January. A big problem I find is the jack of red ball cricket home and away for our best young cricketers. Premier Cricket is the only red ball avenue at home. I have not seen his recent PC figures. This may give you some idea of Davie's red ball promise. He was only 17 when he took apart seasoned Premier Cricket bowlers for his club. Bold prediction. This kid will play Test cricket for Australia. https://youtu.be/tGVKDd-rhHk

Just hearing that the two tester against Bangladesh has been confirmed for June/July. But the T20s have been postponed till the following year. Why?.. when T20 WC prep is needed.. specially against the turning ball.
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baggygreenmania - 28 Sep 2019 10:38 AM
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Just hearing that the two tester against Bangladesh has been confirmed for June/July. But the T20s have been postponed till the following year. Why?.. when T20 WC prep is needed.. specially against the turning ball.

Mike there is no doubt dead wood in the Blues. Nevill and Henriques need to retire. Give Patterson the captaincy. Bring in Fallins as the specialist spinner. Nair still has some developing to do. His batting is also a work in progress. Can see him perhaps occupying #6 in the future. Blood Hackney and perhaps Avendano or Hunt this summer. This tired batting line up needs an injection of youthful enthusiasm. Our attack of Mickey Edwards, Harry Conway and Sean Abbott just dont cut the mustard. There are coupla good young rookie bowlers.. Hadley and Hatcher waiting their chance.
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baggygreenmania - 28 Sep 2019 10:20 AM

I certainly dont agree with you over Oliver Davies.  You love rubbishing kids that are still finding their way in senior cricket. Not that this is any great criteria to any top level red ball he may play.. but he was one of few to score a 200 in a national U19 match.. perhaps the only one. Not sure what stats you are seeing but he starred in the U19 series against the Kiwis in July.. scores of  59, 48, 51.. two wkts plus a couple of half centuries in Sri Lanka in January. This may give you some idea of his red ball promise. He was just 17 when he took apart seasoned Premier Cricket bowlers for his club. Bold prediction. This kid will play Test cricket for Australia. https://youtu.be/tGVKDd-rhHk

Not rubbishing anyone, I like to watch how they develop at different levels, before I make any big calls, which is what the media should do. Too much pressure leads to failure more times than not. Oliver Davis I will wait to see how he goes at first grade club level, which I would imagine should improve this year, possibly into the Futures this year, then onwards. The youtube video correct me if I'm wrong is 2nd grade back in 2017, good batting no doubt, but he has moved up to 1st grade now, and what he does now is far more important than what he did 2 years ago. Averaging 32 not as impressive against a better quality of bowler, give him time before making the big calls, Australia is a long way off for a player averaging 32 at club level. Just give the kid a break and let him develop at his own pace, don't fast track him.

Sangha is a typical example of what can happen if too quick....a lot of failures at a level he's not ready for leads to undermining confidence which you see at club level averaging only 29. So averaging 29 at club cricket hardly surprising averaging 21 at shield. Far to quick on the promotion. Personally I've been more impressed with MacKenzie Harvey, and as we discussed previously, not getting as much notice but Victoria have thrown him into T20 format far too quickly for my liking as well. Agree on Henry Hunt for ACT and I agree that it is time for ACT team, but that is it I would hate to see numerous state teams then you end up like England, a couple of good players the rest average, not good for the next step up which is international.
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baggygreenmania - 28 Sep 2019 11:20 AM
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Mike there is no doubt dead wood in the Blues. Nevill and Henriques need to retire. Give Patterson the captaincy. Bring in Fallins as the specialist spinner. Nair still has some developing to do. His batting is also a work in progress. Can see him perhaps occupying #6 in the future. Blood Hackney and perhaps Avendano or Hunt this summer. This tired batting line up needs an injection of youthful enthusiasm. Our attack of Mickey Edwards, Harry Conway and Sean Abbott just dont cut the mustard. There are coupla good young rookie bowlers.. Hadley and Hatcher waiting their chance.

I agree with most of this Baggers, except Fallins, I don't see as a permanent selection for NSW, just my opinion, but I am looking at Futures in NSW the one most likely to produce spin, 0/111, 3/51, 1/51, 2/68, 0/96, would you agree not exceptional performance. Tanveer Sangha in 2-3 years if I was a betting man would be my choice. Don't criticise Mickey, anyone that is game enough to wear the "honey badger" look in public is a brave man. Same for Jack Edwards.
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Mike, I've long been aware of Nic Bertus due to a forum user elsewhere constantly predicting/demanding his promotion in previous seasons. 

I am just interested in the supposed wonderkids. Wonderkids can fall by the wayside or become Martin Crowe, Sachin, Ricky Ponting, Virat Kohli or Kane Williamson.
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MikeR - 28 Sep 2019 11:24 AM
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Not rubbishing anyone, I like to watch how they develop at different levels, before I make any big calls, which is what the media should do. Too much pressure leads to failure more times than not. Oliver Davis I will wait to see how he goes at first grade club level, which I would imagine should improve this year, possibly into the Futures this year, then onwards. The youtube video correct me if I'm wrong is 2nd grade back in 2017, good batting no doubt, but he has moved up to 1st grade now, and what he does now is far more important than what he did 2 years ago. Averaging 32 not as impressive against a better quality of bowler, give him time before making the big calls, Australia is a long way off for a player averaging 32 at club level. Just give the kid a break and let him develop at his own pace, don't fast track him.

Sangha is a typical example of what can happen if too quick....a lot of failures at a level he's not ready for leads to undermining confidence which you see at club level averaging only 29. So averaging 29 at club cricket hardly surprising averaging 21 at shield. Far to quick on the promotion. Personally I've been more impressed with MacKenzie Harvey, and as we discussed previously, not getting as much notice but Victoria have thrown him into T20 format far too quickly for my liking as well. 

Agree on Henry Hunt for ACT and I agree that it is time for ACT team, but that is it I would hate to see numerous state teams then you end up like England, a couple of good players the rest average, not good for the next step up which is international.
The ACT and perhaps one from the NT. The ACT wud boast a competitive side with players the calibre of Nick Winter, Jason Avendano, Matthew Gilkes, Henry Hunt and Tom Rogers forming the nucleus of the side. There is also Nick's young brother Jake who has had some big wraps. Arjun Nair also hails from the national capital.

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baggygreenmania - 28 Sep 2019 3:52 PM
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Agree on Henry Hunt for ACT and I agree that it is time for ACT team, but that is it I would hate to see numerous state teams then you end up like England, a couple of good players the rest average, not good for the next step up which is international.
The ACT and perhaps one from the NT. The ACT wud boast a competitive side with players the calibre of Nick Winter, Jason Avendano, Matthew Gilkes, Henry Hunt and Tom Rogers forming the nucleus of the side. There is also Nick's young brother Jake who has had some big wraps. Arjun Nair also hails from the national capital.



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baggygreenmania - 28 Sep 2019 3:55 PM
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I am backing Sangha for a breakout summer. If not he needs to be sent back to PC to work on his red ball game. There are several of my fellow posters calling for his inclusion in the summer Tests. 



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In the test team? Sangha averages under 24. Oh please pick him vs NZ. He's nowhere near ready, yet. What is he going to do when Boult or Abbas hits hit their length and does not change it. Or when Wagner sets the leg side field and goes short ball after ball? Sangha averages under 24 at FC, he has not worked the game out yet that suits him. Most think he will. CA is investing into him on the promise shown that he will. But he has not worked his approach to the game out yet, successfully. 

Once he gets that flurry of runs, those back to back centuries, once you see him dominant in the FC scene, with consistent run scoring, then he is ready for test cricket. But not before.

I have the same issue with Hetmeyer for WI. One FC century, and in the test team, its far too soon. Its not just earning the cap, its about knowing enough about their own game to have a successful approach. If you're not succeeding at FC, you're not ready for test cricket. I worry that they may have wrecked Hetmeyer for life now as a test player. He's just going to be a filthy careless slogger, cos they got him selected to begin with - "the way I play" speech.


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Paddles - 28 Sep 2019 6:35 PM
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In the test team? Sangha averages under 24. Oh please pick him vs NZ. He's nowhere near ready, yet. What is he going to do when Boult or Abbas hits hit their length and does not change it. Or when Wagner sets the leg side field and goes short ball after ball? Sangha averages under 24 at FC, he has not worked the game out yet that suits him. Most think he will. CA is investing into him on the promise shown that he will. But he has not worked his approach to the game out yet, successfully. 

Once he gets that flurry of runs, those back to back centuries, once you see him dominant in the FC scene, with consistent run scoring, then he is ready for test cricket. But not before.

I have the same issue with Hetmeyer for WI. One FC century, and in the test team, its far too soon. Its not just earning the cap, its about knowing enough about their own game to have a successful approach. If you're not succeeding at FC, you're not ready for test cricket. I worry that they may have wrecked Hetmeyer for life now as a test player. He's just going to be a filthy careless slogger, cos they got him selected to begin with - "the way I play" speech.


A lot is made about Sangha because he scored a century against England. What a lot fail to realise is Broad and Woakes had basically finished bowling for the warm up game before Sangha even came to the crease. He only really faced Ali and Crane for the majority of the innings, as England were closing up not wearing out the bowlers for the upcoming test. In the first innings of the same game he faced 3 deliveries from Woakes and went for 0. Away from home last year these are Sangha's scores Adelaide 12 and 33, Perth 5 and 4, Victoria 0 and 0, Brisbane 15 and 0, Tasmania 37 and 0, Final 21 and 4  average away from NSW is 11. When the quality of attack improves eg Victoria he scored 0. He may know how to play where he is familiar with conditions and pitches, but he needs to develop away from home, just to keep his place in the state side. I'd like to know who is looking at these results and calling for his selection in the Australian team. How he is still in the state side is still a mystery to me

If people were impressed by his England innings what about Matt Short, who also scored a century and av 40+ at first class level, has a lot better record away from Victoria. How could anyone select Sangha over Short?? I am not considering Matt Short so there would be no way I'd consider Sangha. Not to mention about 50 other batsmen playing in Australia currently. IMO Paddles Sangha is too tall for a batsman, he's 6 foot if I remember correctly, not overly tall but still on the higher end of the spectrum, and taller batsmen rarely make it, the theory being is that short batsmen are better aided in their balance by their height, how much this is true I don't know, but it does seem to have some support considering history. Most of the best are between 5 foot 5 to 5 foot 7, but there are a few exceptions maybe Sangha is one of them who knows.
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Once he gets that flurry of runs, those back to back centuries, once you see him dominant in the FC scene, with consistent run scoring, then he is ready for test cricket. But not before.
I agree with that assessment Paddles.. I believe it is not lack of talent but confidence with Sangha up to this point. The media heaped so much pressure on him from his underage performances. Not many at age 16/17 can take the pressure of expectation. 
Splitting hairs Mike over the Pommie bowlers Sangha took to the cleaners in that tour match. It was still a England standard attack. Matt Short looks better than state standard. Not surprised at all if he plays ODI cricket at some stage. 
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DC the Tigers can use a win today. Bird with a wicket in his first over. 

Faulkner has Head playing on and then cleans up Carey with a snorter of an in swinger. Two in four balls for the comeback kid.
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baggygreenmania - 29 Sep 2019 10:41 AM
DC the Tigers can use a win today. Bird with a wicket in his first over. 

Faulkner has Head playing on and then cleans up Carey with a snorter of an in swinger. Two in four balls for the comeback kid.

Sam Heazlett with his third 50 on the trot. I have him in my ODI side this summer.
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Sam Heazlett with his third 50 on the trot. I have him in my ODI side this summer.

Agree with you there Baggers If he can put a few more runs on the board at FC level it would be great for Him as a test player prospect but only 25 average last year. Great innings currently against this attack but it's going to be a high scoring match, great to see if Stanlake is up to it.
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DC the Tigers can use a win today. Bird with a wicket in his first over. 

Faulkner has Head playing on and then cleans up Carey with a snorter of an in swinger. Two in four balls for the comeback kid.

SA coming back to earth with a big thud so far, but Tasmania has blown big advantages this year.
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150 plus after 23 overs for Qld. Big score on the way. Qld have scored 350+ at domestic level 4 times in the last 5 years, maybe on the cards again.

Heazlett out for 88, great knock by him. List A average is 56, has to be selected for Australia.

200 up in the 30th over, Ben Cutting should be promoted in the order on the fall of the next wicket.
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MikeR - 29 Sep 2019 11:48 AM
150 plus after 23 overs for Qld. Big score on the way. Qld have scored 350+ at domestic level 4 times in the last 5 years, maybe on the cards again.

Heazlett out for 88, great knock by him. List A average is 56, has to be selected for Australia.

200 up in the 30th over, Ben Cutting should be promoted in the order on the fall of the next wicket.

I wondered if Cutts had retired when he did not front for the first two Bulls games. Good to see him still in the side.

A few Bulls wickets tumbling now. Renners holes out after two balls. What was he thinking. Usman going on his merry way. He really is a class act when the ball is not moving.
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I wondered if Cutts had retired when he did not front for the first two Bulls games. Good to see him still in the side.

A few Bulls wickets tumbling now. Renners holes out after two balls. What was he thinking. Usman going on his merry way. He really is a class act when the ball is not moving.

Khawaja plays for Khawaja. Khawaja posted his ton around 29th over, the next 14 over, just nudging the ball around forcing the new batsmen to throw the bat. He should have been throwing the bat whilst the others get their eye in. Run rate slowed massively from the 29 over because of him, they were well and truly on the way to 350+, now Victoria are back in it. Qld will be lucky to post 330 now. That's the one thing I do like about Warner, never slows down, probably speeds up after scoring a 100.
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baggygreenmania - 29 Sep 2019 1:00 PM
MikeR - 29 Sep 2019 11:48 AM

I wondered if Cutts had retired when he did not front for the first two Bulls games. Good to see him still in the side.

A few Bulls wickets tumbling now. Renners holes out after two balls. What was he thinking. Usman going on his merry way. He really is a class act when the ball is not moving.

Bulls have lost their way somewhat. At 30 overs they were on track for 400. Wickets being thrown away with poor sweep execution.
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MikeR - 29 Sep 2019 1:23 PM
baggygreenmania - 29 Sep 2019 1:00 PM

Khawaja plays for Khawaja. Khawaja posted his ton around 29th over, the next 14 over, just nudging the ball around forcing the new batsmen to throw the bat. He should have been throwing the bat whilst the others get their eye in. Run rate slowed massively from the 29 over because of him, they were well and truly on the way to 350+, now Victoria are back in it. Qld will be lucky to post 330 now. That's the one thing I do like about Warner, never slows down, probably speeds up after scoring a 100.

Not so much playing for himself. More plays at one pace. Plays ever ball on its merit. You rarely see him giving away his wicket with a reckless windy woof. 
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A lot is made about Sangha because he scored a century against England. What a lot fail to realise is Broad and Woakes had basically finished bowling for the warm up game before Sangha even came to the crease. He only really faced Ali and Crane for the majority of the innings, as England were closing up not wearing out the bowlers for the upcoming test. In the first innings of the same game he faced 3 deliveries from Woakes and went for 0. Away from home last year these are Sangha's scores Adelaide 12 and 33, Perth 5 and 4, Victoria 0 and 0, Brisbane 15 and 0, Tasmania 37 and 0, Final 21 and 4  average away from NSW is 11. When the quality of attack improves eg Victoria he scored 0. He may know how to play where he is familiar with conditions and pitches, but he needs to develop away from home, just to keep his place in the state side. I'd like to know who is looking at these results and calling for his selection in the Australian team. How he is still in the state side is still a mystery to me

If people were impressed by his England innings what about Matt Short, who also scored a century and av 40+ at first class level, has a lot better record away from Victoria. How could anyone select Sangha over Short?? I am not considering Matt Short so there would be no way I'd consider Sangha. Not to mention about 50 other batsmen playing in Australia currently. IMO Paddles Sangha is too tall for a batsman, he's 6 foot if I remember correctly, not overly tall but still on the higher end of the spectrum, and taller batsmen rarely make it, the theory being is that short batsmen are better aided in their balance by their height, how much this is true I don't know, but it does seem to have some support considering history. Most of the best are between 5 foot 5 to 5 foot 7, but there are a few exceptions maybe Sangha is one of them who knows.

Shorter people naturally have a lower centre of gravity, but that's not the major thing for me, given most baseball players are over 6 foot. Its actually the bowlers's length. The shorter you are, the more difficult it is for a bowler to hit a length that is to short to drive and too full to pull as it is a smaller target. Tall batsmen, there is far more room for error for the bowler's hitting length as an easier target. Tall people are also a bigger target when it comes to the short pitched stuff. So the Lloyd's, Greigys. and Petersons are rarer.
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Paddles - 29 Sep 2019 1:45 PM
MikeR - 29 Sep 2019 6:58 AM

Shorter people naturally have a lower centre of gravity, but that's not the major thing for me, given most baseball players are over 6 foot. Its actually the bowlers's length. The shorter you are, the more difficult it is for a bowler to hit a length that is to short to drive and too full to pull as it is a smaller target. Tall batsmen, there is far more room for error for the bowler's hitting length as an easier target. Tall people are also a bigger target when it comes to the short pitched stuff. So the Lloyd's, Greigys. and Petersons are rarer.

Most of the best are between 5 foot 5 to 5 foot 7, but there are a few exceptions maybe Sangha is one of them who knows.
That is definitely true. A couple more that come to mind up round 6 foot with not too shabby careers.. Rahul Dravid and Venkat Laxsman (not sure of spelling). Only Aussie that springs to mind is one Gregory Stephen Chappell.
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baggygreenmania - 29 Sep 2019 2:09 PM
Paddles - 29 Sep 2019 1:45 PM

Most of the best are between 5 foot 5 to 5 foot 7, but there are a few exceptions maybe Sangha is one of them who knows.
That is definitely true. A couple more that come to mind up round 6 foot with not too shabby careers.. Rahul Dravid and Venkat Laxsman (not sure of spelling). Only Aussie that springs to mind is one Gregory Stephen Chappell.

Dravid is 5'9". Laxman and GC are 6'1". 

Think Dravid just seemed tall compared to Tendukar, Gambhir and Viru. 
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baggygreenmania - 29 Sep 2019 2:09 PM
Paddles - 29 Sep 2019 1:45 PM

Most of the best are between 5 foot 5 to 5 foot 7, but there are a few exceptions maybe Sangha is one of them who knows.
That is definitely true. A couple more that come to mind up round 6 foot with not too shabby careers.. Rahul Dravid and Venkat Laxsman (not sure of spelling). Only Aussie that springs to mind is one Gregory Stephen Chappell.

Poor start by the Bushies. 
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Paddles - 29 Sep 2019 2:15 PM
baggygreenmania - 29 Sep 2019 2:09 PM

Dravid is 5'9". Laxman and GC are 6'1". 

Think Dravid just seemed tall compared to Tendukar, Gambhir and Viru. 

Fooled me. How about Sangakkara? Not that short.
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baggygreenmania - 29 Sep 2019 2:29 PM
Paddles - 29 Sep 2019 2:15 PM

Fooled me. How about Sangakkara? Not that short.

Mike may also be wondering why Jack Wildermuth did not play today.
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