RedEyeRob
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trosa001 wrote:yeah he's trying to have a dig still. he wont give up. its his ego. he thinks he is the gatekeeper to how football fans in south australia need to think about adelaide united. his is like the football mafia in this state (i am not being racist...i am of italian background) but he thinks he is the owner of opinion in this state
go get fucked VAL, youre a wanker and no one reads your articles....and youre son is a shit goalkeeper too lol I am of Italian heritage also and i find it completely embarassing that the idiot found it necessary to once publish in the paper that he wears Armani suits when describing himself. Seriously, what a self-loving wanker. I'll bet he masturbates in front of the mirror too.
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ShinAUFC
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There actually is a bit of a snipe at gombau.
Val is trying to say the results came because gombau changed his game plan to something a little more familiar in this league. Almost alluding to it being as a result of pressure in regard to winning points.
What Val does not say is that gombau was asked directly why we played more long balls. Gombau said it is smart to take advantage of the extra space as teams now begin to press us high up the pitch.
So it was not gombau falling to pressure and resorting to long balls, it was actually a pre meditated solution to a lack of space in our own half and actually a characteristic of our style and being able to adapt. It was hardly as if we were playing route 1.
Which completely blows away Val's theory that gombau is a one trick pony who will not adapt to any given situation
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trosa001
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yeah he's trying to have a dig still. he wont give up. its his ego. he thinks he is the gatekeeper to how football fans in south australia need to think about adelaide united. his is like the football mafia in this state (i am not being racist...i am of italian background) but he thinks he is the owner of opinion in this state
go get fucked VAL, youre a wanker and no one reads your articles....and youre son is a shit goalkeeper too lol
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Did anyone happen to catch a glimpse of Val's article in the paper today!? It looks like he's gotten a little offended by the questioning of his football knowledge and is trying to write some insightful football analysis. Of course he still takes a couple of digs at Gombau's playing style, after all it wouldn't be a Val Migliaccio article without a good dose of bitterness. Quote:ADELAIDE United defeated Central Coast Mariners 4-0 by mixing its usual tiki-taka game plan which saw the club win just one match this season before Saturday night.
Adelaide steam rolled the reigning champion at Coopers Stadium despite emphatically losing the possession statistic for the first time.
Re-live all the action from Coopers Stadium in our match centre.
Melbourne Victory was the only other club which won the possession stakes just - 51 per cent to 49 per cent - during the round two 2-2 draw in front of a record A-League crowd at Hindmarsh (16,504) this season.
Mariners had 55 per cent of possession on Saturday but the key to the change of style was Adelaide's use of effective long balls forward to split the Mariners defence.
Adelaide captain Eugene Galekovic was the best long ball example when he claimed an assist for a route one clearance which allowed Sergio Cirio to score Adelaide's third goal when he rounded Mariners keeper Liam Reddy before walking the ball into an empty net.
Out of Adelaide's 457 passes compared to Mariners 554 Adelaide used the long ball 17 per cent of the time while Mariners only tried the long ball six per cent of the time.
But when Mariners' Mitch Duke got behind the Reds defence's high line after just 45 seconds before his opportunity was lost with a heavy touch Adelaide seemingly defended smarter.
And with the Reds defence seemingly dropping deeper than coach Josep Gombau's previous high line Adelaide took command of the clash.
With Reds forwards also dropping off rather than pressing the Mariners four man defence when the away side had the ball deep, the Reds midfield appeared to be much more compact than its previous nine encounters.
In essence Mariners had fewer holes to exploit which was symptomatic of Adelaide's previous results barring the opening round 3-1 win over Perth Glory.
"The style we played over the last weeks also we played very well but we didn't get theses results,'' Gombau said.
"We have the style we are playing (Saturday) we don't make mistakes but this is football.
"We know the way that we play and we know what we are doing and we are believing in what we are doing and this is important.
"We have this style and we are playing.
"We are playing the way we want to play and we are creating chances every week more and more." He seems to be old school, apparently long balls are the way to go these days.
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Mike Bassett
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Separated at birth Gombau and 'Andy' from According to Jim
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liverpoolfan2010
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Just quick before i talk about the game Val vs Gumbi both very unprofessional People might not like val but he is doing his job Adelaide has won 1 game in 10 worst start ever no hiding it of course there will be bad press and gumbi is over it so decided to lash out and brought family into it. Both unprofessional.
Anyway to today's game each week we get better and better in attack how good was it today as the season goes on we are getting better but still the problems are not changing in defense.
cirios best game for us so far played so well today
Djite has made the team look so diffrent in attack
Fierra played well
isaias better game
in saying that 20 mins still to go but cant see CCM coming back lol
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 A young reds fan is auctioning a 2013/13 jersey signed by the entire squad and coaching staff (courtesy of Antony Golec)so he can raise money towards a school trip to Cambodia with projects abroad working in an orphanage next year. The starting bid is $300 and i strongly encourage those with some money to splash get bidding on this jersey in support of this young man and his school. Link will be provided below and happy bidding! http://www.ebay.com/itm/161170046993?ssPageName=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
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mcjules
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Unless Gombau can get an absolute superstar (Del Piero like) as a Marquee, I think it'd be better to secure a Carrusca IMO. It takes players from OS a while to get used to all the hacking that defenders do here, Chelo looks like he's finally adapted and should be firing. Edited by mcjules: 7/12/2013 05:46:11 PM
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ShinAUFC
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I would expect we are already talking to him.
Gombau signed Eugene immediately and surely will be looking to keep others on for the next season.
Im not sure sydney could offer him bigger money then us as there is only one international marquee spot and SFC fans will not be happy unless its a Del Piero-esque signing so he will obviously need to fit in the cap.
On the other hand we could absolutely fit him in as our marquee... but then again Gombau possibly has a few favours to call if given a reasonable amount of money to hunt in europe.
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liverpoolfan2010
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redcup wrote:Carrusca's the classiest player to grace an Australian pitch since Ivanovich. He reminds me of Riquelme, always playing with a disinterested snarl on his face. We all got excited at Flores, but Flores is intimidated by his countryman's skill - as well he should be. Some of Carrusca's touches last night were sublime.
Now of course we have to hold our breath and hope that he re-signs for United. Sydney + many other clubs will be offering him more $ than we can, and the track record of our board is pretty dismal when it comes to re-signing players.
As for the game v Roar - Pity the ref was shocking, but Adelaide must be used to it by now. Our 1st half had me knowing we had turned a corner, and Golec was even in the squad for the 1st time this season. I know that one day soon we're going to wallop some poor mob, and if we make the finals we're going to scare the top bods That is the big problem we have just like with flores asian clubs could come knocking on the door. Maby give him a big offer now marquee wages with 2 weeks to decide and tell him he will get more offers from us later on but none as good as this one lol might push him into signing a good deal now Edited by liverpoolfan2010: 7/12/2013 05:09:38 PM
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redcup
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Carrusca's the classiest player to grace an Australian pitch since Ivanovich. He reminds me of Riquelme, always playing with a disinterested snarl on his face. We all got excited at Flores, but Flores is intimidated by his countryman's skill - as well he should be. Some of Carrusca's touches last night were sublime.
Now of course we have to hold our breath and hope that he re-signs for United. Sydney + many other clubs will be offering him more $ than we can, and the track record of our board is pretty dismal when it comes to re-signing players.
As for the game v Roar - Pity the ref was shocking, but Adelaide must be used to it by now. Our 1st half had me knowing we had turned a corner, and Golec was even in the squad for the 1st time this season. I know that one day soon we're going to wallop some poor mob, and if we make the finals we're going to scare the top bods
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Guys I have four FREE tickets to give away for tomorrow nights match. I'd hate to see them go to waste. PM me if you're interested. First in first serve. Tickets must be collected from me before 5.30 tomorrow at my work which is on Grange Road.
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Chris_AUFC wrote:Val can get f***ed. Clearly the honeymoon period is over with the new coach already, now he's spitting out his usual tripe. Val is (part of) the p*ssant Town problem. He is a rat fink and if he was on fire I wouldn't cross the road to pee on him. I am so sick of his sh*t.
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milan_7 wrote:- The reason that Gumby keeps persisting with Malik and Boogs is that they are TBH our two best ball playing CB's. They are also probably our two worst defensively.
- Isaias is a brilliant passer, but needs to played alongside Malik to cover his lack of defensive ability
- Our high line is killing us, and Eugene. Does not suit him at all IMO.
- Despite not getting as many goals as he should Brucie is one of our most important players IMO, a Bruce and Jero strike force would be lethal.
I'd like to see us play a bit deeper and rotate the squad more, with the first choice XI being:
Hugene Elrich-McKain/Boogard-Golec-Zullo ----------Malik---------Isaias ---Cirio--------------------------Carrusca ------------------Jeronimo -----------------BRUCEEEE
Next year by a new ball playing centre half, problem is we have no foreign spots remaining, so will be difficult to find Aussie CB who is good on the ground.
Maybe Pancho could be lured back, would be great rotating him in with Isaias and Ozzie. Great f*cking logic there Gumbi. Knock the ball around nicely but our Central defensive duo are a bloody defensive Liability...How can he not see that it would be easier to give him the time he demands if we weren't shipping goals like a promo girl handing out samples:(
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Not something we've discussed at length but this is question popped up on Red out loud today  We have been pretty much screwed over with the fixtures in these early rounds, all to chase inflated attendance figures. Glenn sums it all up pretty well. P.S. This image is taken from my twitterbot @AUFCRedOutLoud. Worth a follow if you're interested in club comms /ShamelessPlug
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Val can get f***ed. Clearly the honeymoon period is over with the new coach already, now he's spitting out his usual tripe.
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Val running off to his old mate rini to get an article because noone else will talk to him lol i duno if i have seen a jurno having as much of sook as he is in the article poor val.
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Gombau is getting a little bit of flak for not being flexible.
But does anyone think that possibly he just wants the squad to learn his basic structure first before adding less then subtle variations ? Kinda like teaching a kid to play guitar ........ learn to play smoke on the water perfectly before you think about playing something by Children of Bodom ?
Its fairly clear that this year Gombau and the board are prepared to leave the training wheels on and forget about winning points this season for the greater cause of the overhaul of the club. So why not do it properly ?
It is bloody hard to stomach constantly being in a winning position and then dropping all 3 points , but this club has a crisis every 6 months so maybe a season long cleanse is the best thing in the long term.......... but farrrrrk this is frustrating and what if it does not work ? ...
I suppose if it does not work we can always go back to hiring a local muppet ( kosmina ) grind out some wins from goal line scrambles and implode 6 months later.
when you look at it this way , what do we have to lose ?
Also another point.. The youth team is doing quite well and Gombau has stressed how important it is for him to generate our own players in the coming years having already known our structure inside out. Things look promising in some aspects at least for the long term.
Just wish Gumby could rip the band aid off quickly and show us the vision
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If it's someone for 10 weeks, it has to be someone that really does understand how to play in the system. Seems all quite unlikely.
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Wilkinson for a short period while he is not playing during the K-league off season. He might want to play to keep his place in the national squad although he probably just needs a break. While looking at K-league players there is also Cornthwaite, Hamill, DeVere and Madaschi.
Ryan McGowan is in off season as well and he is an Adelaide boy but I highly doubt it. Mullen and Bosnar also in off season in China.
And then there is Lucas Neill, LOL.
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General Ashnak
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Cassio isn't out for long enough, has to be close to a season ending injury I think these days. Getting a guest defender wouldn't actually be a bad idea if it was the right man for the job. Someone to come in and show the rest of the boys how it should be done.
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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General Ashnak wrote:aufc_ole wrote:Any good Aussie CBs that fit the criteria? Don't think we have any foreign spots left I can't think of any off the top of my head who will be free in January :/ We certainly have no import spots available. Does putting Cassio on the long term injury list give us any flexibility? I know we can get a "guest player" for 10 weeks that could be a foreigner outside our quota. Would be a silly rule if we could admittedly.
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General Ashnak
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aufc_ole wrote:Any good Aussie CBs that fit the criteria? Don't think we have any foreign spots left I can't think of any off the top of my head who will be free in January :/ We certainly have no import spots available.
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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General Ashnak
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I like those players, but you are being a bit harsh on Fabio. Most of the times he sits in a 20 metre empty zone and we ignore him as an outlet. He offers much more than Cirio or Jero as a wide player. We really need to start Djite, he is a perfect player for our system.
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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General Ashnak wrote:I know that Isaias is getting heat, but I honestly think he is one of our better midfield players right now. The problem is we can't afford at this stage to have him, Cirio, Currusca and Jero on the pitch at the same time simply because though they have excellent tekkers they aren't working hard enough when we don't have the ball.
Part of the issue I think is the complete lack of confidence in our CBs ability to effectively circulate the ball. They just do not seem to understand how to switch play and maintain effective possession. January really needs to see us bring in some more appropriate defenders, hopefully we can find some free transfers and off load at least Boogs. Isaias is not defensive enough to be a defensive midfielder, Malik is the player who should play there. Then it is a choice between Isaias, Lustica and even Cirio who plays along side Carrusca as a more central midfielder, probably Isaias. Not sure Ferreria is offer enough on the right either, he sometimes does very good things but does not do it enough for me. I would like to see Mabil start although that will not help the defensive side of things at all. I would like to see Galekovic Elrich - Golec - Mckain - Zullo Malik Carrusca - Isaias Cirio -----------------Mabil Djite
Cirio and Mabil can swap sides. Maybe a bit harsh on Jeronimo, but he needs to start performing both home and away not just at Hindmarsh.
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General Ashnak wrote:I know that Isaias is getting heat, but I honestly think he is one of our better midfield players right now. The problem is we can't afford at this stage to have him, Cirio, Currusca and Jero on the pitch at the same time simply because though they have excellent tekkers they aren't working hard enough when we don't have the ball.
Part of the issue I think is the complete lack of confidence in our CBs ability to effectively circulate the ball. They just do not seem to understand how to switch play and maintain effective possession. January really needs to see us bring in some more appropriate defenders, hopefully we can find some free transfers and off load at least Boogs. Any good Aussie CBs that fit the criteria? Don't think we have any foreign spots left
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General Ashnak
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I know that Isaias is getting heat, but I honestly think he is one of our better midfield players right now. The problem is we can't afford at this stage to have him, Cirio, Currusca and Jero on the pitch at the same time simply because though they have excellent tekkers they aren't working hard enough when we don't have the ball. Part of the issue I think is the complete lack of confidence in our CBs ability to effectively circulate the ball. They just do not seem to understand how to switch play and maintain effective possession. January really needs to see us bring in some more appropriate defenders, hopefully we can find some free transfers and off load at least Boogs.
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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jessesdad wrote: That's actually quite helpful - it reminds me we've seen even more ridiculous times and survived! :) That was a funny moment in our history. :d
Edited by jessesdad: 2/12/2013 11:00:28 AM
Funny you say that. I actually went to my first Adelaide game just before the Romario experiment. My son and I went back for our second game to see him play. Then two games became three, three became four and we became fans. Still remember his toe-poke goal.
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Wardman wrote:We need a better striker. Thankfully, I have an idea...  That's actually quite helpful - it reminds me we've seen even more ridiculous times and survived! :) That was a funny moment in our history. :d Edited by jessesdad: 2/12/2013 11:00:28 AM
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Wardman
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We need a better striker. Thankfully, I have an idea...
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