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General Ashnak wrote:Owusu could play a part this week, hard to tell really as you don't want to push someone who had a serious lung infection too fast. No doubt, just good to see him sooner than later. Quote:Shin needs more game time, I refuse to be drawn on him until I have had the opportunity to actually see him play - hopefully this week that will occur. Maybe thats the case. Maybe, like some other AU players he needs to get into his groove. Much like Cassio and Alemao. But I saw him at SFS and from what I saw I wasnt impressed. Didnt bring anything new to their play, but hopefully it is a short term issue. Quote:The lone striker is a stop gap measure, though it can be very effective when the midfield is playing to game plan. Dodd ends up in the middle of the park so much because he is the captain and he is capable of playing from a slightly wider central midfield role. Pantelis (or Pants as he shall henceforth be known) is the main culprit in terms of work rate, he is a very one dimensional player and the reason why we all love Cassio so much. Pants attacks, and attacks, and runs around, and ... well... thats his total game. Cassio attacks, runs, defends, creates, crosses etc etc. We really missed him against SFC. Captain or not, Dodd does SFA while in the middle. Dodd is the kind of player who needs a little bit of a run up and thn can take his player on. He does this best when out wide and then makes his way infield. When in the middle he hasnt got that buildup to help him out and is really a waste of a good attack weapon. Quote:Look to see us play with 2 strikers once we have Owusu back on deck. For everyones sake I hope your right(got a niggling feeling Viddie wants a straight swap between Cristiano and Lloyd).
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General Ashnak
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Owusu could play a part this week, hard to tell really as you don't want to push someone who had a serious lung infection too fast. Shin needs more game time, I refuse to be drawn on him until I have had the opportunity to actually see him play - hopefully this week that will occur. The lone striker is a stop gap measure, though it can be very effective when the midfield is playing to game plan. Dodd ends up in the middle of the park so much because he is the captain and he is capable of playing from a slightly wider central midfield role. Pantelis (or Pants as he shall henceforth be known) is the main culprit in terms of work rate, he is a very one dimensional player and the reason why we all love Cassio so much. Pants attacks, and attacks, and runs around, and ... well... thats his total game. Cassio attacks, runs, defends, creates, crosses etc etc. We really missed him against SFC. Look to see us play with 2 strikers once we have Owusu back on deck.
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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RedsUnited wrote:Perhaps we can continue to speculate about our line up options in this thread, as the SFC vs AUFC wrapup thread has turned into a in-house battle of Sydneysiders... Like Benjamin(442 Forum Moderator) once told me: "Forum threads are alot like football conversations at a pub. You may start on a certain topic, but it may break off on a tangent which has a big influence on the original topic. You wouldnt close a conversation at a pub because someone strays a little off topic" Just like a pub conversation, sometimes, even the best of us tend to have too much ale and decide that a punch in a nose is a valid point.8-[ Anyways, sorry(on behalf of Sydney) for the epic hijack...:lol: Just wondering from your POV's, was anyone really impressed with Shin. I certainly didnt see anything special. I was really hoping to see something new to the AUFC play, much like song for NJs or Byun for SFC. Hopefully we can just put this down to him adapting to Australian football. Any news on when Lloyd Owesu(sic) should be ready? Really was unimpressed by Adelaides single striker play last year and it seems to have continued this year. Cristiano looks like he is a decent goal poacher, from what we saw last year, but I dont think he is suited to the lone strikers role. Give him some support(not Dodd...he's a W-I-N-G-E-R) and a secondary option for Reid to look for. Far too predictable at the moment.
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RedsUnited
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For the upcoming few weeks where we have to get some wins under the belt, I really can't see Pantelis featuring in any of the games at all. He looks to be the weakest link in our lineup so far...
Hughes following soon after. The problem is trying to play him in a similar role to Salley late last season. I don't think Hughes is cut out for that. He has said he's a box-to-box player, but so far, I haven't seen him move around as much as I would have liked.
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General Ashnak
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It is quite weird seeing the hate being spewed from some Sydneysiders, oh well glad to accept the move option! I hope that Cassio is fit for Friday, seeing Pantelis getting pantsed again will not be fun, he can attack but has no idea how to defend - Jamo was left totally exposed as our CDs had their hands full containing SFCs CFs and couldn't back him up. Or Reid should have dropped back to the middle of the defence and pushed Fyfe and Shin 1 out wider so the back 5 where more of a w shape: -------- Reid -------- Jamo --------- Marrone --- Fyfe -- Shin 1 --- ------- Eugene ------- Then we needed Pantelis, Dodd, Hughes, Alemao and Cristiano to almost mirror it at the front: ------ Cristiano ----- --- Dodd -- Hughes --- Pantelis ------ Alemao So the line would have been: ------ Cristiano ----- --- Dodd -- Hughes --- Pantelis ------ Alemao -------- Reid -------- Jamo --------- Marrone --- Fyfe -- Shin 1 --- ------- Eugene ------- SFC came at us hard down the flanks but their best scoring chances came through the middle. By shunting Hughes up the park and planting Reid in front of the back 4 we would have been better able to snuff out their movements before the could string together those 5-6 passes that allowed them to open us up. We spent a lot of time in the second half being lead around by the nose thanks to our poor positioning. Hughes & Reid just kept giving up ground to SFC which gave them more and more space in the centre of the park. We have seen time and time again what happens when you are parked in front of your six yard box, you run out of room - players seem to come from everywhere and then your picking the ball out of the back of the net. You can't get hold of the ball and move it around to try and open play up unless your technical skills are very good, so you are relying on a long ball to a target man and your midfield to run like the blazes (after they have just been chasing shadows) to get back up the park to receive or secure the second ball. Stupid.
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RedsUnited
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Perhaps we can continue to speculate about our line up options in this thread, as the SFC vs AUFC wrapup thread has turned into a in-house battle of Sydneysiders...
Having Shin and Dodd in the centre of midfield gives speed, which can then be switched out to the sides with Cassio and Alemao with their technical skils. If we have Owusu in the squad, he'll be a big target man up front and Cristiano will be able to pounce if there's a loose ball. Perfect in theory. Let's wait to see it in action.
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General Ashnak
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I'm not worried about them here at home. When we play them at Skilled...
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God I'm worried about Gold Coast on Friday night... :(
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Unfortunately not heading over on Sunday, but I will be heading to either the Brompton (as per the General's recommendation) or the Elephant (as per the Facebook group suggestion).
My lineup for this weekend:
----------------Cristiano-------------- ---Cassio--------Shin---------Dodd--- ----------Hughes--------Reid---------- ----Jamo--------------------Alemao--- ----------Flakes--------Fyfe----------- ---------------Galekovic---------------
Bench: Owusu, Marrone, Costa, GK
Edited by RedsUnited: 12/8/2009 08:25:16 PM
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King Billy
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Anyone heading over for the game this weekend?
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General Ashnak
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:lol: Of course it counts! I was being serious, how can you go past AUFC? Oh when the Ants, Oh when the Ants! Oh went the Ants piss all over you!
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Torak
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But we are one eyed adelaide supporters, so it shouldn't really count.
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General Ashnak
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I had us finishing first Torak!
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My team for this weekend.
Eugene Alemao-Flakes-Fyfe-Jamieson Reid - Hughes Shin Dodd Cassio Cristiano
Bench - Bira, Rudan, Owusu, Marrone, Costa, Monteresso, Pantelis, Mullen, Barbiero
If Shin is on the bench, alemao will push up into midfield and marrone will be put into the right back position. Good to think we still have Daniel Mullen to come back into the squad.
I cant beleive so many people said that we will finish 6-10 position, some 5's but not many higher. That is an extremly strong first 11 and great depth on the bench. the two young boys also showed last week they can step up if needed. Our team will be more settled than most the others which is a major advantage. Our only concern is defence and if fyfe and flakes continue in the form howed last week they will be hard to breakdown.
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General Ashnak
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Very true, what we really miss is finishing rather than attacking. Lloyd should fix that! Cristiano is going to have to lift his game a huge amount if he wants to stay on the park, which is what we need to happen - also it means that we will always have a second good striker on the bench so if we need to inject more attack we will have that option. And my allsion to 4-2-3-1 is the ability of that formation to compress and expand as needed, AUFC hasn't been doing that very well other than that blinder against WP last season...
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King Billy
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General Ashnak wrote:He may be slow, but I expect that he can deal with SFC - especially as it is their right side which is their more attacking option. We could actually play with Rudan in Reid's spot if we needed to... I actually would like AUFC to make use of Pim's 4-2-3-1 system (or as the Socceroos call it 4-3-3 :lol:) as it is a wonderfull counter attacking positioning. I thought that was what we had been playing for the last 12 months..... minus the attacking part
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General Ashnak
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No doubt about that at all! Jamo has a temper and I reckon that Kofi is going to get fustrated having someone who can keep up with him!
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I'm still dreaming of the day we play two up front. I'm not sure if Cristiano can manage to run himself ragged every week. :d Obviously I'm not as big a Rudan fan as you are. But - so far- Fyfe has looked solid so I'm prepared to wait and see.
The duel I'm looking forward to is Jamo/Kofi. I have a feeling Mr Danning may be slightly (completely) less free to run at will this week. Just hope Jamo tackles with his feet and not his hands. Expecting firewworks.
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General Ashnak
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He may be slow, but I expect that he can deal with SFC - especially as it is their right side which is their more attacking option. We could actually play with Rudan in Reid's spot if we needed to... I actually would like AUFC to make use of Pim's 4-2-3-1 system (or as the Socceroos call it 4-3-3 :lol:) as it is a wonderfull counter attacking positioning.
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General Ashnak
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Aiee! Shin 1 cannot be played at RB?!? He is soooo shit in that position it isn't funny :lol: :D
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Rudan won't start. He's too slow for right back anyway. Marrone everytime for me until Mullen gets back. Of course, with Viddie being the loyal man he is, I wouldn't be surprised to see Alamao start at right back again. I'd prefer him in midfield. So....(for what it's worth)...
Hugene Alamao Flakes Fyfe Jamo Reid Trav Hughes Shin Cassio Cristiano
That's in attack. Hughes to drop back with Reid when we're defending. I just prefer the attacking option. :)
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I reckon it will be: Eugene Marrone - Flakes - Fyfe - Jamo Reid - Hughes Alemao/Dodd - Dodd/Shin - Cassio Christiano
Owusu, Alemao/Shin, Keeper, Rudan
If Rudan plays one of Flakes or Fyfe will go to right back
you heard it hear first
Edited by King Billy: 12/8/2009 10:02:23 AM
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General Ashnak
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I should keep my squad specualtion here I think (gotta get back in fantasy groove :) ) Eugene Rudan - Shin 1 - Fyfe - Jamo Reid Alemao - Dodd - Shin - Cassio Cristian bench: keeper? Hughes, Marrone, Lloyd, Monterosso What do you think?
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Yeah I came across the news on the Adelaide United website. Good news indeed. Should be seeing Shin in action this weekend, methinks.
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Good news for you guys.... Quote:Adelaide United have ended a week of uncertainty by receiving clearances for new recruits Mark Rudan and Korean Shin.
The Reds were wrongfooted prior to their season-opening win over Perth Glory on Friday night by failing to secure a timely clearance for Shin, meaning he sat in the stands rather than on the substitutes' bench where manager Aurelio Vidmar had planned to employ him.
So they will be relieved to have received notification from Football Federation Australia about the arrival of the clearance from authorities in Korea.
Rudan's paperwork from Swiss club FC Vaduz was rather more straightforward, arriving less than a week after he signed on as the new hard man in the heart of the Adelaide defence.
However, Rudan remains unlikely to feature against his former club Sydney FC on Sunday due to his needing to build up at least another week of fitness.
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Seems Channel 10 are giving more air time to Adelaide United. There'll be a full segment in the sports section tomorrow night on Fyfe and his aspirations with Rudan in the side.
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RedsUnited wrote:General Ashnak wrote:AUFC supporters should head to the Brompton after the game, I will be there to have a drink with my mate who is the head chef there :) (another shameless plug!) I think I shall head there for Sunday's game against Sydney. Good chicken parma there? its sure is a good parmy, i would probably go as far as saying a great parmy. The whole place is really nice. check out the gents. Creative toilets.
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RedsUnited wrote:-=GLoRiOuS=- wrote:we were impressed with the women in adelaide.
and oh god ... the palace = :d
dog & duck i think it was ... was very good also.
nice work adelaide. shame glory didn't get a result though hehe :) You can get a result against Wellington next week. :p We'll allow you that one. :lol: lol .... oh and by the way ... us glory fans literally took over your pub across from hindmarsh ... the joiners arms. hehe :lol: you all should of gone there for pre game!
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General Ashnak wrote:AUFC supporters should head to the Brompton after the game, I will be there to have a drink with my mate who is the head chef there :) (another shameless plug!) I think I shall head there for Sunday's game against Sydney. Good chicken parma there?
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-=GLoRiOuS=- wrote:we were impressed with the women in adelaide.
and oh god ... the palace = :d
dog & duck i think it was ... was very good also.
nice work adelaide. shame glory didn't get a result though hehe :) You can get a result against Wellington next week. :p We'll allow you that one. :lol:
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