Second "Test" Aus v Pak


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How on earth is this kid a test debutant? At all?

7 fc games, 17 wickets, at an appalling;y bad average of 37. Tail end bat. With a terrible tail end batting average.

Seriously. This is ridiculous. And a farce. Total farce.

Hasan Ali, Imran Khan, Naseem Shah, Wahab Riaz if you must.... how on earth this person playing test cricket.
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Unfortunately, I’ve been unable to watch much cricket so far today. 

Burns out early to the left armer swinging one away. 

I’m enjoying seeing two Pakistani bowlers bowling 140kph plus with old fashioned, side on actions looking behind the left arm shoulder and bowling arm when bowling. 

Naseem last Test, and Musa this Test, exemplify this type of bowler. 
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Good to see Labu continue good form in Australia after having success overseas. 

This is a big partnership of nearly 130 between him and Warner. 
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Decentric - 29 Nov 2019 7:57 PM
Unfortunately, I’ve been unable to watch much cricket so far today. 

Burns out early to the left armer swinging one away. 

I’m enjoying seeing two Pakistani bowlers bowling 140kph plus with old fashioned, side on actions looking behind the left arm shoulder and bowling arm when bowling. 

Naseem last Test, and Musa this Test, exemplify this type of bowler. 

Dont care how fast he is. He isnt in the top 20 seam bowlers in Pakistan domestic...

Its a farce.
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Don’t know how Yasir Shah hasn’t taken a wicket? He has bowled with a lot of loop, dip and turn for a first day pitch. 
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Paddles - 29 Nov 2019 8:30 PM
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Dont care how fast he is. He isnt in the top 20 seam bowlers in Pakistan domestic...

Its a farce.

I read it as enjoying seeing side on quicks instead of more front on pace bowlers. 
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Warner and Marnus have put on a 150 plus stand. They’ve a few decent shots too. 
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Where is the forum stalwart - Baggers? 
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There is some slick running between the wickets between Labu  and Warner. 
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What a difference a flat wicket and no Stuart Broad makes. 2nd ton on the trot. Well done, very good innings, if you're going to be a ftb might as well be a good one.

It's probably too early to say until aus have a bowl, it might be the pitch, but this pace attack looks pathetic. Not going to be able to rely on spin to give them a break either. Can't really set a field for this, they're going to all parts..
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Go Marnus. What a find he has been.
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Hope this was just a really off day for Pakistan. Would like to see some sort of contest.
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Paddles - 29 Nov 2019 4:44 PM
,http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/player/1072472.html


How on earth is this kid a test debutant? At all?

7 fc games, 17 wickets, at an appalling;y bad average of 37. Tail end bat. With a terrible tail end batting average.

Seriously. This is ridiculous. And a farce. Total farce.

Hasan Ali, Imran Khan, Naseem Shah, Wahab Riaz if you must.... how on earth this person playing test cricket.

Totally agree. Pakistan are living in the past. Their glory days when they had kids the calibre of Imran, Wasim and Waqar.
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flyslip - 29 Nov 2019 10:09 PM
Go Marnus. What a find he has been.

In a short 14 months he has gone from a struggling state player to the top Test scorer for 2019. I stand corrected on that as it has yet to be confirmed. If so that is quite a jump. From just 10 matches he is now pushing @47. His FC average has gone from low @30s to almost @40. 
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The pair has posted a new second wicket partnership record for Adelaide Oval, breaking the 275 added by Lindsay Hassett and Colin McDonald against South Africa in 1953. I understand they too now hold the new 2nd wicket partnership record against Pakistan beating Taylor/Langer.
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Musa and Shah copped a real hammering. Musa.. specially looks way out of this league. He gave far too many runs to Warner specially to get him started after a cautious start. Shah probed away but Marnus and Warner had his measure. I liked their use of feet and crease to blunt his attack.
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They had a graphic illustrating what Labuschagne chose to play/leave for balls around off stump. You could basically have drawn a line around fifth stump for the balls he left. Anything inside this he played. The sign of a top order batsman in form, though the ball wasn't moving much to cause him any doubts.
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baggygreenmania - 30 Nov 2019 9:14 AM
Musa.. specially looks way out of this league. He gave far too many runs to Warner specially to get him started after a cautious start. 

Sending them through chest high on the leg side wasn't much of a plan to Marnus either. Their other young bowler appears way better at this stage.Not much of a sample size though.
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flyslip - 30 Nov 2019 10:19 AM
They had a graphic illustrating what Labuschagne chose to play/leave for balls around off stump. You could basically have drawn a line around fifth stump for the balls he left. Anything inside this he played. The sign of a top order batsman in form, though the ball wasn't moving much to cause him any doubts.

He said the ball seamed and swung around dusk with batting not all that easy. Looked composed to me. Some of his wristwork with those on side clips looked very sub continental..ala Steve Smith to be honest.
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Totally agree. Pakistan are living in the past. Their glory days when they had kids the calibre of Imran, Wasim and Waqar.

Disagree on the glory days cos they were number 1 as late as 2016. And they were more than useful in 2010 before that spot fixing scandal. Asif is one of the best test bowlers ever. He averaged 24 with the ball at sr 48 between 2005 and 2010, when it was a batting era and then some.

They had a great run between that scandal till the retirements of YK, on of the world's best test batsmen ever and the every Misbah, a great captain, and excellent batsman, retired. Even with no Asif.

But this team is a farce of selections now. It really is. Its one thing for Inzi to pick his nephew, but why wreck the bowling unit.

I totally blame the selectors here. This is blatant and obvious to any cricket fan. It is a farce. They're not even close to selecting the best players in Pakistan and eligible - and ready - to play.
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only saw the first session. Ball was probably as difficult as it was in england but a bit less accurate which let the pressure off
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baggygreenmania - 30 Nov 2019 10:50 AM
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He said the ball seamed and swung around dusk with batting not all that easy. Looked composed to me. Some of his wristwork with those on side clips looked very sub continental..ala Steve Smith to be honest.

Fair enough, he would know better than I would. It wasn't obvious to me though. A little bit of swing and maybe a hint of seam very early on as you would expect, then "straight as", is what I watched. Very good batting conditions. Aided by some average bowling.
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Paddles - 30 Nov 2019 12:49 PM
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Disagree on the glory days cos they were number 1 as late as 2016. And they were more than useful in 2010 before that spot fixing scandal. Asif is one of the best test bowlers ever. He averaged 24 with the ball at sr 48 between 2005 and 2010, when it was a batting era and then some.

They had a great run between that scandal till the retirements of YK, on of the world's best test batsmen ever and the every Misbah, a great captain, and excellent batsman, retired. Even with no Asif.

But this team is a farce of selections now. It really is. Its one thing for Inzi to pick his nephew, but why wreck the bowling unit.

I totally blame the selectors here. This is blatant and obvious to any cricket fan. It is a farce. They're not even close to selecting the best players in Pakistan and eligible - and ready - to play.

Their glory days when they had kids the calibre of Imran, Wasim and Waqar.
Talking purely of  bowling. Yes Amir looked to be special but he shot himself and his career in the foot. Reliving glory days by choosing kids not ready for FC cricket let alone Test. and hoping they are the next Imran, Wasim or Waqar.

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baggygreenmania - 30 Nov 2019 4:30 PM
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Their glory days when they had kids the calibre of Imran, Wasim and Waqar.
Talking purely of  bowling. Yes Amir looked to be special but he shot himself and his career in the foot. Reliving glory days by choosing kids not ready for FC cricket let alone Test. and hoping they are the next Imran, Wasim or Waqar.

I didnt say Amir, I said Asif :P

Asif never bowled real pace - he bowled a McGrath clone at low pace, nothing like Waqar, Wasim or Imran. 

I understand - you have no idea who I am talking about.

Imran was barely bowling much post Waqar debuting besides taking the new ball in Aus in late 1989/90, but he only took the new ball. By then his bowling was winding down. By 1990/91 - Imran was a batting allrounder. Imran and Mudussar (soon dropped or retired - cos he aint in the 1992 teams at all) were batting allrounders and Aaqib Javed was the number 3 seamer tbh. Imran and Waqar DO NOT SIGNIFICANTLY OVERLAP as bowlers at all.

Imran wasnt even good as  a kid. He was awful. And slow.  And dropped. He went to England learnt to bowl fast. A kiwi batsman taught him how to do it in league cricket. Then he learned reverse from Nawaz. Akram was found in a net session. Younis was from the system. And earnt his call up. Now - Akram you could say was lucky etc. But he is the only non system selection. And Imran saw something in him. 7 FC games for 17 wickets isn't anything. At all.
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A rubbish declaration. Should have told Wade to keep him on strike and let him go the tonk. A 401* was in the offing. If he got out, declare then. Not very likely to be the difference in the match.
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Babar batting well against us under pressure. 

36 off 49 balls is good going chasing 500 plus. 
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Loving the day/ night cricket. 

Easier to see the pink ball. 
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flyslip - 30 Nov 2019 7:51 PM
A rubbish declaration. Should have told Wade to keep him on strike and let him go the tonk. A 401* was in the offing. If he got out, declare then. Not very likely to be the difference in the match.

Good time to declare. 

Let Warner get the record, then disappear from the pitch. 

We should win this Test. 
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This series dominance just confirms that we are superstars in our own country. 

And we can’t cut the mustard away from home. 
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Warner is a superstar in Aus and not up to par abroad. 

At the same time credit to him breaking the record at 300 plus runs. 
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