2020 American Election Megathread


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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 8 Feb 2020 12:55 PM
mouflonrouge - 8 Feb 2020 11:06 AM

Umm he has been impeached.  Its in the records . Same with Clinton and andrew johnson.  

And we thank you so so much. well played.

And he's been acquitted.

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Enzo Bearzot - 8 Feb 2020 1:52 PM
Munrubenmuz - 8 Feb 2020 8:30 AM

Your name calling ( not that I know or care what it means ) is why your side of politics is becoming irrelevant everywhere if it sin't already

Do you think that the Right will retaliate with internet memes should the Dems  implement their nut-job policies of division?  There is a reason why Americans are so protective of  the right to keep and bear arms.... 

Yeh because once it gets out of hand, there will be civil war.



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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 8 Feb 2020 12:55 PM
mouflonrouge - 8 Feb 2020 11:06 AM

Umm he has been impeached.  Its in the records . Same with Clinton and andrew johnson.  

Impeached simply means an allegation was made against him by in this case his political opponents.

The Dems and Pelosi specfically  thinks this matters to Trump or the voters.  It doesn't.  There are no consequences. Its not a criminal trial.

If  Hunter Biden hadn't taken a $50,000 USD/month job in some Eastern European corruption-infested shithole nation where the average wage is $300 per month when his father was Vice President and travelled there 12 times in 2 years, and was holding $1 billion worth of US aid back, none of this would have happened.

The Dems can claim it was all above board ( Yeah Hunter really did get that job because he was Hunter and not Hunter Biden, the son of the Vice President). 

But that's not enough.

Not only does it have to BE above board, As the son of the Vice President who is actively involved in the politics of the Ukraine at the sane time,  needs to be SEEN as being above board!

Another Democrats own goal. You can't make this up LOL.
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Enzo Bearzot - 8 Feb 2020 2:02 PM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 8 Feb 2020 12:55 PM

Impeached simply means an allegation was made against him by in this case his political opponents.

The Dems and Pelosi specfically  thinks this matters to Trump or the voters.  It doesn't.  There are no consequences. Its not a criminal trial.

If  Hunter Biden hadn't taken a $50,000 USD/month job in some Eastern European corruption-infested shithole nation where the average wage is $300 per month when his father was Vice President and travelled there 12 times in 2 years, and was holding $1 billion worth of US aid back, none of this would have happened.

The Dems can claim it was all above board ( Yeah Hunter really did get that job because he was Hunter and not Hunter Biden, the son of the Vice President). 

But that's not enough.

Not only does it have to BE above board, As the son of the Vice President who is actively involved in the politics of the Ukraine at the sane time,  needs to be SEEN as being above board!

Another Democrats own goal. You can't make this up LOL.

The Democrats have made a habit of kicking own goals.

You couldn't even make it up which is what makes it so funny.

Democrats, please do not change!

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mouflonrouge - 8 Feb 2020 1:57 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 8 Feb 2020 1:52 PM

Yeh because once it gets out of hand, there will be civil war.



The Left doesn't get that.

Trumps impeachment could have gone two ways:
1. Hes removed from office
2. He's not

If he was removed then there is a real risk of the citizens seeing that as having their elected President removed by government.  This is a nation which has an inherent distrust of government.  Its a part of its very foundation. Its also a nation where those same citizens hold guns.  Lots of them.  For the same reason.

If the Dems removed their elected President, it could have catastrophically divided the nation.  This is why several Republicans have said if the people want Trump out because of this, they will vote him out soon enough.  Nine months is neither nor there. The Left is so blind to their own agenda, they can't see the risks they're putting the country in.

But Trump was not removed . The heat is back on the Democrats, and people know about Hunter Biden, the Ukraine, corruption when before they knew nothing.  In so doing they've damaged Joe Biden's Presidential hopes.  Own goal again.
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Enzo Bearzot - 8 Feb 2020 2:57 PM
mouflonrouge - 8 Feb 2020 1:57 PM

The Left doesn't get that.

Trumps impeachment could have gone two ways:
1. Hes removed from office
2. He's not

If he was removed then there is a real risk of the citizens seeing that as having their elected President removed by government.  This is a nation which has an inherent distrust of government.  Its a part of its very foundation. Its also a nation where those same citizens hold guns.  Lots of them.  For the same reason.

If the Dems removed their elected President, it could have catastrophically divided the nation.  This is why several Republicans have said if the people want Trump out because of this, they will vote him out soon enough.  Nine months is neither nor there. The Left is so blind to their own agenda, they can't see the risks they're putting the country in.

But Trump was not removed . The heat is back on the Democrats, and people know about Hunter Biden, the Ukraine, corruption when before they knew nothing.  In so doing they've damaged Joe Biden's Presidential hopes.  Own goal again.

Yeh I agree. if he was removed then there is no doubt in my mind that this action is a Coup against democracy as they removed a democratically elected POTUS who has done no wrong and broken no laws.

Americans are always very cautious when it comes to their government and have taken arms before and will probably do it again.

Trump's popularity is actually soaring now as well. His approval ratings are breaking new records. Thank you Pelosi!

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Enzo Bearzot - 8 Feb 2020 1:52 PM
Munrubenmuz - 8 Feb 2020 8:30 AM

Your name calling ( not that I know or care what it means ) is why your side of politics is becoming irrelevant everywhere if it sin't already

Do you think that the Right will retaliate with internet memes should the Dems  implement their nut-job policies of division?  There is a reason why Americans are so protective of  the right to keep and bear arms.... 

So what you're effectively saying is if 'democracy' doesn't work in the GOP's favour their response will be an armed uprising?!


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Munrubenmuz - 8 Feb 2020 4:01 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 8 Feb 2020 1:52 PM

So what you're effectively saying is if 'democracy' doesn't work in the GOP's favour their response will be an armed uprising?!

No that's what we are saying about the petulant left.

They have tried every trick in the book, and even resorted to setting up bogus claims to impeach the democratically elected POTUS.

They don't know the meaning of democracy and even want to destroy and abolish democracy by de-platforming conservatives, and socially engineering society to establish a Communist "Utopia".

Wakey wakey eggs and bakey!



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Munrubenmuz - 8 Feb 2020 4:01 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 8 Feb 2020 1:52 PM

So what you're effectively saying is if 'democracy' doesn't work in the GOP's favour their response will be an armed uprising?!

The Dems have tried to remove the elected President from office from the day he was elected.  That is not "democracy" at work.  That's corrupting democracy.  So its a bit rich for the Dems to claim the high ground about Democracy not working.

If the Dems win and they try to implement their divisive policies there absolutely will be an armed uprising.  Who in their right mind would stand by idly as their country's government marginalized its own people in favour of minority interests, some of whom are illegal residents or first generation Americans?

Keep using the term "white", or "male " or "old" as pejoratives- people who are overwhelmingly good and you are doing nothing but dividing the nation along race, sex and age.  See where that gets you.


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mouflonrouge - 8 Feb 2020 4:09 PM
Munrubenmuz - 8 Feb 2020 4:01 PM

No that's what we are saying about the petulant left.

They have tried every trick in the book, and even resorted to setting up bogus claims to impeach the democratically elected POTUS.

They don't know the meaning of democracy and even want to destroy and abolish democracy by de-platforming conservatives, and socially engineering society to establish a Communist "Utopia".

Wakey wakey eggs and bakey!



Exactly.

The Left and the Democrats suffer Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Here is an example of how even an Editor of Left wing media in Australia is afflicted by it:

https://www.theage.com.au/topic/the-age-editorial-1re

"In this election year, these are worrying times for the Democrats. The American economy is strengthening and unemployment is falling, while the US has been increasing its power and influence on the world stage."

SO.......The things that are good for America and Americans like a strong economy, falling unemployment, and increasing power and influence on the world stage are Bad For The Democrats.

Clearly the only logical conclusion from that is the Democrats are bad for America!

But no, not for this fuckstick of an Editor - he is a Democrats sympathiser!  He like the Left wants to get rid of Trump, *even* if its bad for America and its people! That's how utterly deranged the thinking is:



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Imagine thinking the Democrats are left leaning lol

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paulbagzFC - 9 Feb 2020 8:18 AM
Imagine thinking the Democrats are left leaning lol

-PB

It was an interesting debate and then this happened...



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Enzo Bearzot - 8 Feb 2020 8:06 PM
mouflonrouge - 8 Feb 2020 4:09 PM

https://www.theage.com.au/topic/the-age-editorial-1re

But no, not for this fuckstick of an Editor - he is a Democrats sympathiser!  He like the Left wants to get rid of Trump, *even* if its bad for America and its people! That's how utterly deranged the thinking is:



How you come to that sort of conclusion is truly beyond me. 

"Trump derangement syndrome" indeed. 

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Can you read?

Enzo wrote:

"The Left AND the Democrats"

paulbagzFC - 9 Feb 2020 8:18 AM
Imagine thinking the Democrats are left leaning lol

-PB

So Sanders, who is running to lead the Democrats and is a self-described "Democratric Socialist" is not left leaning?

These 4 nut jobs  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Squad_(United_States_Congress)  are not left leaning

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sydneyfc1987 - 9 Feb 2020 9:57 AM
Enzo Bearzot - 8 Feb 2020 8:06 PM

How you come to that sort of conclusion is truly beyond me. 

"Trump derangement syndrome" indeed. 

I'll take you through it and dumb it down for you:

"These are worrying times for the Democrats.  The American economy is strengthening and unemployment is falling, while the US has been increasing its power and influence on the world stage."

https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/trump-marches-on-as-partisan-politics-triumphs-20200206-p53ygf.html

and in an article one day earlier:

"The time for those who care about the democracy of the United States and its standing in the world to find and make such a choice is running out fast."

https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/time-to-find-clear-choice-against-trump-is-running-out-20200205-p53xxm.html

So lets sum it up

A democratically-elected President ie Trump, has strengthened the US economy and unemployment is falling ( talk about understating the facts..) and Trump has also increased US power and influence on the world- all the things that voters would want their President to do and would vote for- but, somehow  that means you don't care about Democracy and the US's standing in the world, and therefore Trump is the wrong choice, the "right" one of course is to vote Democrat who will do the opposite of Trump because that's Democracy..

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Americans are in a league of their own when it comes to over reactions and being paranoid.  This MSNBC news guy has lost it.  He fears if Burnie gets elected there may be mass executions in Central Park...

https://www.rt.com/usa/480412-chris-matthews-rant-sanders-socialism/

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some really obvious predictions. 

sanders will get screwed again by the democratic party and wont be the candidate.

trump will win. if there is a sniff of losing he will likely escalate the war with iran (again) or escalate a similar international conflict.

but IF trump loses he will refuse to accept the outcome and the U.S. will enter a the next stage of decline of their empire. and this is a very real possibility.
  • you cannot deny that trump will likely refuse the loss. 
  • civil functioning in the U.S. has already become quite bankrupt and beholden to populist right politics 
  • there is a large right wing propaganda media machine which has now established itself as the most popular media source - supported by 2 oligarch families: murdochs and kochs
  • there is a (number of) large heavily armed militia which has begun recent practice deployments
  • the judicial arm has been stacked with conservative right wing appointments
  • the military, fbi, and pentagon have been progressively stacked with conservative political appointments 


 




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inala brah - 9 Feb 2020 2:40 PM
some really obvious predictions. 

sanders will get screwed again by the democratic party and wont be the candidate.

trump will win. if there is a sniff of losing he will likely escalate the war with iran (again) or escalate a similar international conflict.
  • you cannot deny that trump will likely refuse the loss. 
  • civil functioning in the U.S. has already become quite bankrupt and beholden to populist right politics 
  • there is a large right wing propaganda media machine which has now established itself as the most popular media source - supported by 2 oligarch families: murdochs and kochs
  • there is a (number of) large heavily armed militia which has begun recent practice deployments
  • the judicial arm has been stacked with conservative right wing appointments
  • the military, fbi, and pentagon have been progressively stacked with conservative political appointments 

Except:

1.  there is NO  war with Iran ( Iran has gone very quiet all of the sudden) and

2. tell me what "similar international conflict" is there right now that he going to escalate?

Some facts please.

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BrisbaneBhoy - 9 Feb 2020 1:18 PM
Americans are in a league of their own when it comes to over reactions and being paranoid.  This MSNBC news guy has lost it.  He fears if Burnie gets elected there may be mass executions in Central Park...

https://www.rt.com/usa/480412-chris-matthews-rant-sanders-socialism/

Americans, they are a special bread 🤣

Except he doesn't say that.  In fact he said:

"“I believe if Castro and the Reds had won the Cold War there would have been executions in Central Park and I might have been one of the ones getting executed — and certain other people would be there cheering.”

and

"bringing the conversation back around to Castro who he said everyone thought was “great” until he began “shooting every one of his enemies.”

and on Democratic Socialism:

"Okay, that's harmless, that's basically a capitalist country with a lot of good social welfare programs. Denmark is harmless,"




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rusty - 6 Feb 2020 10:18 PM
I know its wrong and i shouldnt say it, but if I had a vat of acid I would throw Elizabeth Warren in it, she is that insufferable.

Why?  In all seriousness, why?

Here's someone who wants to make the world a better place, irrespective if you agree with her policies or not,  and you would happily have her murdered because you don't like her.

You rant and rave about 'the left' and then you say rubbish like this.

You are not well.


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3.21 to 4.25.  Compare and contrast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVzo73HJOOU



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And just for shits and giggles.


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Munrubenmuz - 9 Feb 2020 3:01 PM
rusty - 6 Feb 2020 10:18 PM

Why?  In all seriousness, why?

Here's someone who wants to make the world a better place,irrespective if you agree with her policies or not,  and you would happily have her murdered because you don't like her.

You rant and rave about 'the left' and then you say rubbish like this.

You are not well.

I could ask you the same about Trump and your answer would boil down to the same thing: You don't like him

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Enzo Bearzot - 9 Feb 2020 3:07 PM
Munrubenmuz - 9 Feb 2020 3:01 PM

I could ask you the same about Trump and your answer would boil down to the same thing: You don't like him

Yes but I don't want him murdered or killed.  Voted out would be fine.

Rusty has a problem with outspoken women or women in positions of power.  He's shown that time and time and again.  Matter of fact you do too.

Get help.


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Munrubenmuz - 9 Feb 2020 3:23 PM
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Yes but I don't want him murdered or killed.  Voted out would be fine.

Rusty has a problem with outspoken women or women in positions of power.  He's shown that time and time and again.  Matter of fact you do too.

Get help.

Show me one post of mine where I have made a n ad home attack against someone's gender and not their ideas.  One will do.

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Munrubenmuz - 9 Feb 2020 3:01 PM
rusty - 6 Feb 2020 10:18 PM

Why?  In all seriousness, why?

Here's someone who wants to make the world a better place, irrespective if you agree with her policies or not,  and you would happily have her murdered because you don't like her.

You rant and rave about 'the left' and then you say rubbish like this.

You are not well.

“wants to make the world a better place”

lol


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Munrubenmuz - 9 Feb 2020 3:23 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 9 Feb 2020 3:07 PM

Yes but I don't want him murdered or killed.  Voted out would be fine.

Rusty has a problem with outspoken women or women in positions of power.  He's shown that time and time and again.  Matter of fact you do too.

Get help.

I actually prefer more women to enter power.  In the current climate power hungry men are keen to appeal to women by tailoring policy exclusively for women, which leads to systemic structural sexism that favours women over men.  For example we hear a lot more about womens issues such as domestic violence, gender pay gap and quotas than we do in male suicide rates, boys underperformance in schools and dying give years average before women.  If this stat was reversed there would be widespread outrage, regardless of the cause.  If we had gender balance hopefully that would lead to tailoring policy on need rather than gender.  Also your accusation is false on the basis I cast my last federal election vote for a party that is currently lead by a woman ;)
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rusty - 9 Feb 2020 9:57 AM
paulbagzFC - 9 Feb 2020 8:18 AM

It was an interesting debate and then this happened...



There is no such thing as interesting when you're involved rusty.

-PB

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Oh rusty

Complains about vicious, personal attacks on ScoMo. "Typical of the left" etc etc.

Then talks about throwing acid in the face of a politician, failing to see the hypocrisy in the process.

(VAR) IS NAVY BLUE

GO


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