I haven’t seen a thread on this topic yet (mods please delete if wrong). I expect this will be a significant topic throughout the year, as the Democratic primaries come to a head, Trump’s impeachment trial continues and the election draws closer. 

(1) No
(2a) Yes, and win (2b) No.
(3) Butt - e - gig
(4) Little-to-none.
(5) No more or less than any other previous election/President.

1: Yes.
2a: Yes. 2b: No
3: I’m calling him booty judge.
4: Doing everything in her power to screw over Bernie.
5: I’m worried that a few of the candidates are going to start some more illegal wars and Australia will obviously help because we are America’s dumb best friend who will help them do whatever they like regardless of how illegal or morally wrong the wars are.

Comrade sanders will verbally guillotine Trump on the debate stages

Reckon the Dems will let him get past Tuesday lol?

-PB

That impeachment is going to backfire big time.   It was the Dem's only way to get him out of the way,  they fucked up.   

I like Bernie personally however I don't think his own party does.   

Oh & Mini Mike is trending,  Trump knows how to take the piss out of people.  

Bernie will probably get the nod. I'm a fan of Yang though. 

As for the impeachment, I think the Dems knew and the play was to take back the Senate. 

Not sure I understand, how does a (potentially) failed impeachment take back the Senate?

There are around 25 senate seats up for re-election in November. Most of them are Republican and I think 5-6 of them will be close. If the Democrats flip 3, then they have the majority for both Houses.

Could go the other way as well. Would those sitting Democrats be comfortable with this impeachment?  Republicans should or will start slamming those Democrats who voted for this nonsense NOW via campaigns to turn it over.  Sitting Presidents are rarely unseated after their first terms but if they can turn this around on the Democrats then things will get interesting.  

There are 4-5 Dem seats at risk. It’s a big move by the Dems but this is what I think their play is. No way would they get 2/3 of the Senate to kick Trump out. More risk and return for them imo.

A failed impeachment by the Dems when they didn’t even bother to call witnesses in the lower house runs a considerable risk of the Republicans getting a lot of sympathy votes for Trump. At least as much chance as winning more seats.

They had the ability to do that? In the lower house?

Thought it was only for during the trial or that they didn't have the power to subpoena people there.

-PB

They had the Ukraine ambassador etc testify. The only change was when it moved to the Senate and Bolton flipped. They wanted to call him then but couldn’t due to the lack of numbers.

Read this if you are REALLY are interested in a balanced review of what actually took place and why the Democrats have egg on their faces.

Note this comment:  "Democrats had opposed any witnesses in the impeachment trial of President Clinton and voted as a bloc for a summary acquittal. There was no reason to expect Republicans to adopt an entirely different approach."

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/481015-how-the-house-lost-the-witness-battle-along-with-impeachment

Note The Hill is seen as a centrist publication:

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/481015-how-the-house-lost-the-witness-battle-along-with-impeachment

It wasn't a failure. As trump is still impeached. 

But he's still President & will remain President. 

That crazy clown Pelosi was a disgrace yesterday.   

So was Clinton and Andrew johnson.  They were both impeached and both stayed President 

She certainly has but Trump can't complain as she has done so much for his campaign and getting Trump back in.

Thank You Pelosi!

Cheers to another 4 years of Trump coming up. The best US President in many decades.

Yep.

And it had to happen

The divisive identity politics, the class warfare, the social and economic engineering, petulance and the virtue signalling and general insane and out of control Far Left Democrats would have destroyed the US.

Trump has kept the nation together, even as the Democrats campaign to tear it apart. 

If by some miracle the Dems win I have no doubt it will bring the US closer to Civil Way than at any other time after the Civil War.

Four More Years!  Four More Years!

Absolutely.

The far left lunatics just keep on losing in the USA, Australia, UK, Hungary, Poland, Italy and Greece. Long may it continue.

In fact, it is a big hope of mine that the Far Left continue with their social and economic engineering because that takes them further away from the masses and working people of all our Nations.

We have all had enough of all the virtue signalling.

Even in Australia, Scott Morrison is assured of another term thanks to their petty petulance. Whenever they open their mouths, we put more runs on the board.

They all live inside their Twitter Echo Chamber - which I got to admit I now enjoy as my favourite Social media outlet because of it. I got to watch my blood pressure though from all the salt. So easy to OD on it.

Lol.  Thanks Tucker.

Your name calling ( not that I know or care what it means ) is why your side of politics is becoming irrelevant everywhere if it sin't already

Do you think that the Right will retaliate with internet memes should the Dems  implement their nut-job policies of division?  There is a reason why Americans are so protective of  the right to keep and bear arms.... 

Yeh because once it gets out of hand, there will be civil war.

The Left doesn't get that.

Trumps impeachment could have gone two ways:
1. Hes removed from office
2. He's not

If he was removed then there is a real risk of the citizens seeing that as having their elected President removed by government.  This is a nation which has an inherent distrust of government.  Its a part of its very foundation. Its also a nation where those same citizens hold guns.  Lots of them.  For the same reason.

If the Dems removed their elected President, it could have catastrophically divided the nation.  This is why several Republicans have said if the people want Trump out because of this, they will vote him out soon enough.  Nine months is neither nor there. The Left is so blind to their own agenda, they can't see the risks they're putting the country in.

But Trump was not removed . The heat is back on the Democrats, and people know about Hunter Biden, the Ukraine, corruption when before they knew nothing.  In so doing they've damaged Joe Biden's Presidential hopes.  Own goal again.

Yeh I agree. if he was removed then there is no doubt in my mind that this action is a Coup against democracy as they removed a democratically elected POTUS who has done no wrong and broken no laws.

Americans are always very cautious when it comes to their government and have taken arms before and will probably do it again.

Trump's popularity is actually soaring now as well. His approval ratings are breaking new records. Thank you Pelosi!

So what you're effectively saying is if 'democracy' doesn't work in the GOP's favour their response will be an armed uprising?!

No that's what we are saying about the petulant left.

They have tried every trick in the book, and even resorted to setting up bogus claims to impeach the democratically elected POTUS.

They don't know the meaning of democracy and even want to destroy and abolish democracy by de-platforming conservatives, and socially engineering society to establish a Communist "Utopia".

Wakey wakey eggs and bakey!

Exactly.

The Left and the Democrats suffer Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Here is an example of how even an Editor of Left wing media in Australia is afflicted by it:

https://www.theage.com.au/topic/the-age-editorial-1re

"In this election year, these are worrying times for the Democrats. The American economy is strengthening and unemployment is falling, while the US has been increasing its power and influence on the world stage."

SO.......The things that are good for America and Americans like a strong economy, falling unemployment, and increasing power and influence on the world stage are Bad For The Democrats.

Clearly the only logical conclusion from that is the Democrats are bad for America!

But no, not for this fuckstick of an Editor - he is a Democrats sympathiser!  He like the Left wants to get rid of Trump, *even* if its bad for America and its people! That's how utterly deranged the thinking is:

How you come to that sort of conclusion is truly beyond me. 

"Trump derangement syndrome" indeed. 

I'll take you through it and dumb it down for you:

"These are worrying times for the Democrats.  The American economy is strengthening and unemployment is falling, while the US has been increasing its power and influence on the world stage."

https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/trump-marches-on-as-partisan-politics-triumphs-20200206-p53ygf.html

and in an article one day earlier:

"The time for those who care about the democracy of the United States and its standing in the world to find and make such a choice is running out fast."

https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/time-to-find-clear-choice-against-trump-is-running-out-20200205-p53xxm.html

So lets sum it up

A democratically-elected President ie Trump, has strengthened the US economy and unemployment is falling ( talk about understating the facts..) and Trump has also increased US power and influence on the world- all the things that voters would want their President to do and would vote for- but, somehow  that means you don't care about Democracy and the US's standing in the world, and therefore Trump is the wrong choice, the "right" one of course is to vote Democrat who will do the opposite of Trump because that's Democracy..

The Dems have tried to remove the elected President from office from the day he was elected.  That is not "democracy" at work.  That's corrupting democracy.  So its a bit rich for the Dems to claim the high ground about Democracy not working.

If the Dems win and they try to implement their divisive policies there absolutely will be an armed uprising.  Who in their right mind would stand by idly as their country's government marginalized its own people in favour of minority interests, some of whom are illegal residents or first generation Americans?

Keep using the term "white", or "male " or "old" as pejoratives- people who are overwhelmingly good and you are doing nothing but dividing the nation along race, sex and age.  See where that gets you.

Yes, I should have prefaced with “Given the likely failure..”

I know its wrong and i shouldnt say it, but if I had a vat of acid I would throw Elizabeth Warren in it, she is that insufferable.

She's native American !!  How dare you !!!   

I like how she connect with her spiritual Navahoe roots by flying in a private jet everywhere.   

Fuck her

Tried to muckrake my boi Bernie with the gender card. No respect for her at all.

Why?  In all seriousness, why?

Here's someone who wants to make the world a better place, irrespective if you agree with her policies or not,  and you would happily have her murdered because you don't like her.

You rant and rave about 'the left' and then you say rubbish like this.

You are not well.

I could ask you the same about Trump and your answer would boil down to the same thing: You don't like him

Yes but I don't want him murdered or killed.  Voted out would be fine.

Rusty has a problem with outspoken women or women in positions of power.  He's shown that time and time and again.  Matter of fact you do too.

Get help.

Show me one post of mine where I have made a n ad home attack against someone's gender and not their ideas.  One will do.

I actually prefer more women to enter power.  In the current climate power hungry men are keen to appeal to women by tailoring policy exclusively for women, which leads to systemic structural sexism that favours women over men.  For example we hear a lot more about womens issues such as domestic violence, gender pay gap and quotas than we do in male suicide rates, boys underperformance in schools and dying give years average before women.  If this stat was reversed there would be widespread outrage, regardless of the cause.  If we had gender balance hopefully that would lead to tailoring policy on need rather than gender.  Also your accusation is false on the basis I cast my last federal election vote for a party that is currently lead by a woman ;)

“wants to make the world a better place”

lol

Seriously guys, winning just doesn't seem to have as big a thrill these days because we end up winning everything.

I can't remember the last time I was wrong or on the losing side.

Trump has it in the bag.

Near zero unemployment and record job growth and record economic growth. Trump has hit it out of the ballpark.

And he just got acquitted! At this point we need to send our gratitude to Pelosi for all she has done for the Trump campaign. Thank you Pelosi.

I really loved how she tore the president's speech. Great work!

Im certain that stefcep has lost the plot.  Seriously noone can be that deluded

You are deluded for thinking Trump has been impeached and what's even funnier is how you think bogus impeachments will hurt his re-election prospects. LOL

Umm he has been impeached.  Its in the records . Same with Clinton and andrew johnson.  

And we thank you so so much. well played.

And he's been acquitted.

Impeached simply means an allegation was made against him by in this case his political opponents.

The Dems and Pelosi specfically  thinks this matters to Trump or the voters.  It doesn't.  There are no consequences. Its not a criminal trial.

If  Hunter Biden hadn't taken a $50,000 USD/month job in some Eastern European corruption-infested shithole nation where the average wage is $300 per month when his father was Vice President and travelled there 12 times in 2 years, and was holding $1 billion worth of US aid back, none of this would have happened.

The Dems can claim it was all above board ( Yeah Hunter really did get that job because he was Hunter and not Hunter Biden, the son of the Vice President). 

But that's not enough.

Not only does it have to BE above board, As the son of the Vice President who is actively involved in the politics of the Ukraine at the sane time,  needs to be SEEN as being above board!

Another Democrats own goal. You can't make this up LOL.

The Democrats have made a habit of kicking own goals.

You couldn't even make it up which is what makes it so funny.

Democrats, please do not change!

Imagine thinking the Democrats are left leaning lol

-PB

It was an interesting debate and then this happened...

There is no such thing as interesting when you're involved rusty.

-PB

Oh rusty

Complains about vicious, personal attacks on ScoMo. "Typical of the left" etc etc.

Then talks about throwing acid in the face of a politician, failing to see the hypocrisy in the process.

But even I am terrible, it doesnt excuse the left for their behaviour does it?  The left is still vicious and evil, regardless of what rusty does.

Should have ended it here. 

Examine your own behaviour and comments before whinging about others. Pretty disgraceful stuff.