2020 American Election Megathread


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paulbagzFC - 23 Feb 2020 11:07 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 23 Feb 2020 8:44 PM

Which of those are running for President?

-PB

How many more times will you shift the goal posts when you ask "who is Left"?

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sub007 - 23 Feb 2020 9:05 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 23 Feb 2020 8:39 PM

What does that have to do with your original point which was “only 15% of the left cares about job and and the economy?”

If you can read that wasn't the point.  The point is tDemocrats care more about the diversity quotas than they do their about people's jobs and the economy, and FFS DEMOCRAT BUSINESS OWNERS not caring about jobs and the economy. 

That;s like saying 15% of dentists care about teeth.

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Finally the the Left wing media - begrudgingly publishes Trumps reasonable defense behind the phone call-Why was Hunter Biden the VP son  getting paid $50,000 per month working for  a compnay found guilty of corruption at the same time his father the VP of the US was withholding $1 billion worth if US aid to UKraine?

https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/hunter-biden-may-leave-a-bigger-stamp-on-american-politics-than-his-father-20200204-p53xok.html

Just as s I pointed out earlier.

 As if Biden;s son didn't get the job because his dad was VP, and is if there weren't going to be any strings attached! Or at the evrey least a bad look.  A recovering alcoholic with no experience in energy or the Ukraine was the only person in the world who would do the job for $50,000 USD per month....yeah right

As much as the Left tried to not publish anything about how Hunter got his job and why, the public isn't as stupid as the Leftist nutjobs would think.. 

Notice our very own left wing outlet The Age allowed just 6 comments on the article. All negative towards the Bidens. And then shut the comments down.  Independent.  Alway.  My arse.



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Munrubenmuz - 23 Feb 2020 9:50 PM
sub007 - 23 Feb 2020 3:45 PM

The bloke is a clown.  Who knew that some people value stuff other than money.

You mean people like BUSINESS OWNERS who without jobs growth and a strong economy are not going to remain in business for long don't care about jobs and the economy? Virtue signalling is more important. to Democrat Business owners, even if the country goes broke. More taxes will fix it....

As for clowns your beliefs are being rejected all over the world except for Canada ( and that's narrowing down) and NZ. Led by two o the biggest clowns on the world stage.



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paulbagzFC - 5 Feb 2020 4:32 PM
Aljay - 5 Feb 2020 4:20 PM

They had the ability to do that? In the lower house?

Thought it was only for during the trial or that they didn't have the power to subpoena people there.

-PB

Read this if you are REALLY are interested in a balanced review of what actually took place and why the Democrats have egg on their faces.

Note this comment:  "Democrats had opposed any witnesses in the impeachment trial of President Clinton and voted as a bloc for a summary acquittal. There was no reason to expect Republicans to adopt an entirely different approach."

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/481015-how-the-house-lost-the-witness-battle-along-with-impeachment

Note The Hill is seen as a centrist publication:

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/481015-how-the-house-lost-the-witness-battle-along-with-impeachment



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Enzo Bearzot - 24 Feb 2020 8:51 AM
sub007 - 23 Feb 2020 9:05 PM

If you can read that wasn't the point.  The point is tDemocrats care more about the diversity quotas than they do their about people's jobs and the economy, and FFS DEMOCRAT BUSINESS OWNERS not caring about jobs and the economy. 

That;s like saying 15% of dentists care about teeth.

I can read and I quoted you for word for word lol.

Wherw in the article did it mention that the dems care about diversity quotas?

All I saw in the article is that dem-leaning business owners care about healthcare more which is fair enough as the American for-profit health care system literally kills 10’s of thousands of people every year.


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I do business with USA for a while and was there end of last month.......
All the feedback I heard and told by business people they will take Trump anyday of the week warts and all compared to the other side/s.
I met a company last Nov who proudly quoted they just built a factory to produce one the their key lines.
I couldn't have seen that happen pre Trump.




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Munrubenmuz - 24 Feb 2020 7:12 AM
paulbagzFC - 23 Feb 2020 11:07 PM

My thoughts exactly.  The ol' bait and switch.  He is the master of it.

Muz you're all ad homs reveal just how shallow your arguments  are.

You need and the other need to read and comprehend.  I said the Left and the Democrats. I didn't say the Left running for President.

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sub007 - 24 Feb 2020 9:55 AM
Enzo Bearzot - 24 Feb 2020 8:51 AM

I can read and I quoted you for word for word lol.

Wherw in the article did it mention that the dems care about diversity quotas?

All I saw in the article is that dem-leaning business owners care about healthcare more which is fair enough as the American for-profit health care system literally kills 10’s of thousands of people every year.


Its liking talking to wall.  Go overt whatI said a few more times until you get.

And FFS a business owner not having jobs and the economy as his number concern- how woul you fund this free health care for all if people if the nations don't have jobs and the economy is tanking?

It just typifies the Loony Left- "we want all these free things but someone else to pay for them"

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Enzo Bearzot - 24 Feb 2020 10:17 AM
sub007 - 24 Feb 2020 9:55 AM

Its liking talking to wall.  Go overt whatI said a few more times until you get.

And FFS a business owner not having jobs and the economy as his number concern- how woul you fund this free health care for all if people if the nations don't have jobs and the economy is tanking?

It just typifies the Loony Left- "we want all these free things but someone else to pay for them"

Medicare for all is actually significantly cheaper than the current system not to mention that it will save 10’s of thousands of lives every year.

https://www.salon.com/2020/02/22/multiple-studies-show-medicare-for-all-would-be-cheaper-than-public-option-pushed-by-moderates/

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LFC. - 24 Feb 2020 10:12 AM
I do business with USA for a while and was there end of last month.......
All the feedback I heard and told by business people they will take Trump anyday of the week warts and all compared to the other side/s.
I met a company last Nov who proudly quoted they just built a factory to produce one the their key lines.
I couldn't have seen that happen pre Trump.



Of course!  Why would you vote for virtue-signalling, ant-nationalist, cancel culture identity politics

And on your point about the factory, the Left and the Democrats were keen to shoot down Trumps return of manufacturing in the USA policy, But its been blue collar workers that have benefited the most for jobs. And that's born out in geographics too- the people that vote Trump got the jobs, whereas those in Washington, New York and LA didn't.

The US is at full employment and has been for some time under Trump.  Not that the shouty Left wing media would let you know that

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sub007 - 24 Feb 2020 10:30 AM
Enzo Bearzot - 24 Feb 2020 10:17 AM

Medicare for all is actually significantly cheaper than the current system not to mention that it will save 10’s of thousands of lives every year.

https://www.salon.com/2020/02/22/multiple-studies-show-medicare-for-all-would-be-cheaper-than-public-option-pushed-by-moderates/


I repeat.  How would you fund it people didn't have jobs and the economy tanked?  Can you answer that?

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Enzo Bearzot - 24 Feb 2020 10:40 AM
sub007 - 24 Feb 2020 10:30 AM


I repeat.  How would you fund it people didn't have jobs and the economy tanked?  Can you answer that?

It’s honestly a stupid question but I’ll answer it anyway

M4A is significantly cheaper so people will be spending LESS money on healthcare than they were before. The study mentioned in the article said M4A will save $2 trillion over a 10 year period and would save each family over $2400 each year.



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sub007 - 24 Feb 2020 10:48 AM
Enzo Bearzot - 24 Feb 2020 10:40 AM

It’s honestly a stupid question but I’ll answer it anyway

M4A is significantly cheaper so people will be spending LESS money on healthcare than they were before. The study mentioned in the article said M4A will save $2 trillion over a 10 year period and would save each family over $2400 each year.




Look past your ideology tinted world view.  The number one concern for a business owner is jobs and the economy.  Without  those, none of your social equity and spending on free health care is possible.  Jobs and a strong economy are the two pillars upon which government and personal spending rests

Only a left wing socialis st ideologue who thinks taxation or a Magic Money Theory is the way forward

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Enzo Bearzot - 24 Feb 2020 8:47 AM
paulbagzFC - 23 Feb 2020 11:07 PM

How many more times will you shift the goal posts when you ask "who is Left"?

Well you keep bring up "The Left" like its in some way relevant lol?

-PB

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Interesting the slander job going on Old Bernie but if they're backing the Billionaire Mini Mike horse they're just going to get shat on again like last election.    Bernie can go toe to toe with Trump no problem.  
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ErogenousZone - 24 Feb 2020 1:44 PM
Interesting the slander job going on Old Bernie but if they're backing the Billionaire Mini Mike horse they're just going to get shat on again like last election.    Bernie can go toe to toe with Trump no problem.  

This.
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Enzo Bearzot - 24 Feb 2020 10:56 AM

sub007 - 24 Feb 2020 10:48 AM


Look past your ideology tinted world view.  The number one concern for a business owner is jobs and the economy.  Without  those, none of your social equity and spending on free health care is possible.  Jobs and a strong economy are the two pillars upon which government and personal spending rests

Only a left wing socialis st ideologue who thinks taxation or a Magic Money Theory is the way forward

You can have multiple priorities as a business owner. Of course they would care about jobs and the economy but healthcare is probably the more important issue until M4A is implemented.
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Look past your ideology tinted world view.  The number one concern for a business owner is jobs and the economy.  Without  those, none of your social equity and spending on free health care is possible.  Jobs and a strong economy are the two pillars upon which government and personal spending rests

Only a left wing socialis st ideologue who thinks taxation or a Magic Money Theory is the way forward

Gets schooled, shifts goalposts.


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Munrubenmuz - 24 Feb 2020 7:00 AM
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Trump will get 4 more years no matter who they put up.  He's $1.50 with the bookies at the moment.

Trump is most likely but Sanders has the best shot of all the Dems. None of the 'moderates' are viable imo.
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sub007 - 24 Feb 2020 1:56 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 24 Feb 2020 10:56 AM

You can have multiple priorities as a business owner. Of course they would care about jobs and the economy but healthcare is probably the more important issue until M4A is implemented.

Healthcare is currently a cost for a business. If that was resolved via M4A, then they can use the money on wages and other areas.

This was where the Andrew Yang proposition was most compelling for me. 30% of American retail jobs (i.e small businesses) are getting sucked up due to Amazon. What happens then? 
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More news from the stable genius files.

Just like how you treat a 3 year old.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/donald-trump-cauliflower-mash-potato-weight-loss-a4371506.html



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Biden bounces back big time on Super Tuesday. The establishment machine must have promised a lot to Klobuchar and Buttigieg to drop out when they did, so their votes would swing to Biden.

Trump will beat Biden in a canter.
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Hilarious watching DNC closing ranks and doing deals to pile against Bernie.

Biden will get steamrolled against Trump, Democrats won't win an election for another decade.

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'Uncle Joe' Biden? Good lord..

You'd think they want to lose the election with his history, especially his crimes in Ukraine including providing his loser drug addict son a highly paid role at a Ukrainian gas company. We could also mention his 'questionable' behaviour around little girls and women captured on camera, but maybe he's just a friendly bear. I mean, guy. 

Not saying that Bernie is the answer (and there are big question marks), but the worst thing I've heard about him is that he was apparently something of a freeloader when living in a hippie commune in the 70s. Poor form socially, but hardly a criminal act.



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Yeah, I can't see Biden beating Trump. Best shot was for Sanders and he was far from certain.

To be honest, coronavirus will dictate how some of this plays out. 
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Lol Warren bailing out, watch her back Biden now

The DNC wheeling and dealing is complete, successfully pissing off the youth voter base of the Democrats for a generation.

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paulbagzFC - 6 Mar 2020 8:07 AM
Lol Warren bailing out, watch her back Biden now

The DNC wheeling and dealing is complete, successfully pissing off the youth voter base of the Democrats for a generation.

-PB

Warren supporters won’t necessarily back Bernie anyway. 

But agree that Bernie supporters are gonna be pissed and probably won’t bother during the general election now.

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I’ll be stunned if Warren backs Biden. Will be interesting to see.

The thing that gets me about Biden is that he first ran for President in 1988.

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Les Gock - 5 Mar 2020 10:36 AM
'Uncle Joe' Biden? Good lord..

You'd think they want to lose the election with his history, especially his crimes in Ukraine including providing his loser drug addict son a highly paid role at a Ukrainian gas company. We could also mention his 'questionable' behaviour around little girls and women captured on camera, but maybe he's just a friendly bear. I mean, guy. 

Not saying that Bernie is the answer (and there are big question marks), but the worst thing I've heard about him is that he was apparently something of a freeloader when living in a hippie commune in the 70s. Poor form socially, but hardly a criminal act.



The biggest knocks against Bernie as far as I can tell, other than the unaffordable policies are 
1) his lack of successfully implementing anything in decades in the senate
2) his support for Castro and USSR when they were the USA’s biggest enemies
3) the p.ornographic fiction he published (as a 30yr old adult)
4) he’s not actually a Democrat 
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