2020 American Election Megathread


2020 American Election Megathread

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Nailed it Rusty.

That's why their side of politics is getting hammered by the very people they proclaim to be helping--"Oh but they're voted against their interests, oh but they didn't understand it because they're uneducated, oh but the media, oh but the political donors". 

Everyone can see through their bullshit except them.

The classic was how they beat themselves up in to a frenzy arguing that the Brexiteers "now regretted it, they were misinformed and would change the vote if they could"  That went all quiet after Boris's landslide.
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Munrubenmuz - 12 Feb 2020 12:48 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 12 Feb 2020 10:59 AM

Not sure why you can't be rich and want to help people have basic health care or a free tuition or have perhaps live in a more equitable and just society where billionaires pay more taxes than their secretaries.  Yeah what more prick Sanders is.

What's he supposed to do?  Live in a cave so he can spruik his povo credentials.

Such a pathetic crock of shit argument.

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Not at all.  Sanders earns well above the minimum wage, to preach equality and not practice it is the definition of hypocrisy.  The idea of outsourcing the tax burden to billionaires is just a convenient way to maintain the pretence of the moral high ground without having to give up any of your own resources and capital.  Its PURE HYPOCRISY.  Besides there are far more millionaires and billionaires, why shouldnt people who are disproportionately privileged compared to everyone else  not pay more in taxes?  Ill tell you why, its because people are selfish and like to keep what they have, and that applies to socialist millionaires like Bernie, who probably has wads of cash under his bed and counts his money every night before he goes to sleep.  If you were serious about socialism and equality, you would give up your excess wealth and give it to the poor.  Or you would open up that spare bedroom in your house to some homeless guy so he can sleep in a bed rather than a dumpster.  But we, all people, prize our privacy, independence, money and materialist things over the welfare of others.  At the end of the day socialists like Sanders dont want real equality, what they really want is to feel they are more equal than those on the right, by promoting policy that is itsy bitsy more egalitarian, so they can have sit around and have a circle jerk about how moral and compassionate they are.

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rusty - 12 Feb 2020 12:54 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 12 Feb 2020 10:59 AM

Yes you are 100% correct.  For the left its far more important to show virtue rather than practice it.  Lip service and placards and hating Trump and supporting LGBTQ rights are the only things you need to do to prove that you are a deeply compassionate and highly moral person, unlike all the unwashed deplorables on the right who hates blacks and gays.  The DOING part of virtue, the actual act of volunteering for worthy causes and providing resources (money), well thats too much work and inconvenience, and interferes with their ability to buy iphones, flat screen tvs and high end fashion labels that are built on the exploitation of slave wage earners in poor foreign countries.  

The perfect example of how inane the left is the Q and A audience, how when they look doe eyed and nod their heads eagerly whenever some progressive guest starts spewing platitudes about climate change and human rights, before bursting into thunderous applause that shakes the heavens, yet when its a conservative providing a balanced common sense perspective they have these snarling scowls on their faces and vigorously shake their heads with disapproval as if someone suggested we start killing babies (oops thats a leftist policy).




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Enzo Bearzot - 12 Feb 2020 10:59 AM
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rusty - 12 Feb 2020 1:44 AM

That is exactly the modern day Left wing voter.  They positively drip with hypocrisy

I suspect deep down its a guilt complex and rather than self-flagellate, they take on whatever grievance/minority cause of the day, go the odd rally with their placards and chants, drive home in their SUV to resume their comfortable middle-class lives, telling themselves and Jacinta and Tristan their kids "Be Proud kids.  We DID something about it...".  

Yes you are 100% correct.  For the left its far more important to show virtue rather than practice it.  Lip service and placards and hating Trump and supporting LGBTQ rights are the only things you need to do to prove that you are a deeply compassionate and highly moral person, unlike all the unwashed deplorables on the right who hates blacks and gays.  The DOING part of virtue, the actual act of volunteering for worthy causes and providing resources (money), well thats too much work and inconvenience, and interferes with their ability to buy iphones, flat screen tvs and high end fashion labels that are built on the exploitation of slave wage earners in poor foreign countries.  

The perfect example of how inane the left is the Q and A audience, how when they look doe eyed and nod their heads eagerly whenever some progressive guest starts spewing platitudes about climate change and human rights, before bursting into thunderous applause that shakes the heavens, yet when its a conservative providing a balanced common sense perspective they have these snarling scowls on their faces and vigorously shake their heads with disapproval as if someone suggested we start killing babies (oops thats a leftist policy).

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Enzo Bearzot - 12 Feb 2020 10:59 AM
rusty - 12 Feb 2020 1:44 AM

That is exactly the modern day Left wing voter.  They positively drip with hypocrisy

I suspect deep down its a guilt complex and rather than self-flagellate, they take on whatever grievance/minority cause of the day, go the odd rally with their placards and chants, drive home in their SUV to resume their comfortable middle-class lives, telling themselves and Jacinta and Tristan their kids "Be Proud kids.  We DID something about it...".  

Not sure I agree with wishing a horrible death, even though he is an Old White Male, which SHOULD please the Left, but you can never be sure.

Not sure why you can't be rich and want to help people have basic health care or a free tuition or have perhaps live in a more equitable and just society where billionaires pay more taxes than their secretaries.  Yeah what more prick Sanders is.

What's he supposed to do?  Live in a cave so he can spruik his povo credentials.

Such a pathetic crock of shit argument.

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rusty - 12 Feb 2020 1:44 AM
Bernie Sanders is the ultimate hypocrite.  The twat owns multiple mansions and has net worth easily exceeding a million, yet has the gall to complain about then rich while pretending to be on the side of working and middle class Americans so they vote for him.  I hope he suffers a heart attack or catches coronavirus and dies a miserable painful death, and spends eternity burning in hell because he is an evil wannabe dictator who hates small business people and inspires hatred against Republicans that directly lead to political violence and attempted murder.

That is exactly the modern day Left wing voter.  They positively drip with hypocrisy

I suspect deep down its a guilt complex and rather than self-flagellate, they take on whatever grievance/minority cause of the day, go the odd rally with their placards and chants, drive home in their SUV to resume their comfortable middle-class lives, telling themselves and Jacinta and Tristan their kids "Be Proud kids.  We DID something about it...".  

Not sure I agree with wishing a horrible death, even though he is an Old White Male, which SHOULD please the Left, but you can never be sure.
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Bernie Sanders is the ultimate hypocrite.  The twat owns multiple mansions and has net worth easily exceeding a million, yet has the gall to complain about then rich while pretending to be on the side of working and middle class Americans so they vote for him.  I hope he suffers a heart attack or catches coronavirus and dies a miserable painful death, and spends eternity burning in hell because he is an evil wannabe dictator who hates small business people and inspires hatred against Republicans that directly lead to political violence and attempted murder.

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433 - 11 Feb 2020 10:10 PM
rusty - 10 Feb 2020 11:54 PM

Rush Limbaugh was a c*nt who's life's work was to propagate hatred of homosexuals, minorities and the poor. He deserves to spend the rest of his life in agony. Hopefully hell is real too, because that's where he's going.  

See this is exactly what Im talking about.  When I say something off colour all the lefties are quick to wave their little naughty fingers at me, yet when 433 basically orgasms over the fact that his political nemesis has cancer there is crickets.

It just proves how selective the left are dispensing their moral and confected outrage.



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rusty - 10 Feb 2020 11:54 PM
sydneyfc1987 - 10 Feb 2020 8:02 PM

My response was motivated by the lefts reaction to Rush Limbaughs cancer diagnose and the various news platforms and public persons who openly and candidly celebrated the fact he had advanced lung cancer, and the subsequent silence from the left media who condone such appalling behaviour.  Celebrating someones cancer diagnosis is about the most heinous thing you can do, much worse more than my obviously sarcastic comment about throwing Ell Wazza in an acid vat.  

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Munrubenmuz - 11 Feb 2020 6:15 PM
rusty - 10 Feb 2020 11:54 PM

Talk about a long bow.  

I'm a c - unt because other cunce are cunce.

What a load of shit.  Is there no low you won't stoop to?




You know damn well that rusty doesnt care.  He does it to rile people up and then makes excuses .  Its typical of the trolls on Facebook 
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rusty - 10 Feb 2020 11:54 PM
sydneyfc1987 - 10 Feb 2020 8:02 PM

My response was motivated by the lefts reaction to Rush Limbaughs cancer diagnose and the various news platforms and public persons who openly and candidly celebrated the fact he had advanced lung cancer, and the subsequent silence from the left media who condone such appalling behaviour.  Celebrating someones cancer diagnosis is about the most heinous thing you can do, much worse more than my obviously sarcastic comment about throwing Ell Wazza in an acid vat.  

Talk about a long bow.  

I'm a c - unt because other cunce are cunce.

What a load of shit.  Is there no low you won't stoop to?






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sydneyfc1987 - 10 Feb 2020 6:59 PM
rusty - 10 Feb 2020 2:21 PM

Should have ended it here. 

Examine your own behaviour and comments before whinging about others. Pretty disgraceful stuff. 





This. Set the standard yourself. The whole Warren thing was unnecessary.
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sydneyfc1987 - 10 Feb 2020 8:02 PM
rusty - 10 Feb 2020 7:53 PM

Hmm nah I'd say what you just said was just about the worst thing I've seen on this forum. 

I don't remember anybody taking about mutilating Scott Morrison.          

My response was motivated by the lefts reaction to Rush Limbaughs cancer diagnose and the various news platforms and public persons who openly and candidly celebrated the fact he had advanced lung cancer, and the subsequent silence from the left media who condone such appalling behaviour.  Celebrating someones cancer diagnosis is about the most heinous thing you can do, much worse more than my obviously sarcastic comment about throwing Ell Wazza in an acid vat.  

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rusty - 10 Feb 2020 7:53 PM
sydneyfc1987 - 10 Feb 2020 6:59 PM

A great Australian once said the standard you walk past is the standard you accept.  The left set the standard, im just following it.

Hmm nah I'd say what you just said was just about the worst thing I've seen on this forum. 

I don't remember anybody taking about mutilating Scott Morrison.          

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sydneyfc1987 - 10 Feb 2020 6:59 PM
rusty - 10 Feb 2020 2:21 PM

Should have ended it here. 

Examine your own behaviour and comments before whinging about others. Pretty disgraceful stuff. 


A great Australian once said the standard you walk past is the standard you accept.  The left set the standard, im just following it.
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rusty - 10 Feb 2020 2:21 PM
sydneyfc1987 - 10 Feb 2020 12:44 PM

I am terrible, 

Should have ended it here. 

Examine your own behaviour and comments before whinging about others. Pretty disgraceful stuff. 






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sydneyfc1987 - 10 Feb 2020 12:44 PM
Oh rusty

Complains about vicious, personal attacks on ScoMo. "Typical of the left" etc etc.

Then talks about throwing acid in the face of a politician, failing to see the hypocrisy in the process.

But even I am terrible, it doesnt excuse the left for their behaviour does it?  The left is still vicious and evil, regardless of what rusty does.

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Oh rusty

Complains about vicious, personal attacks on ScoMo. "Typical of the left" etc etc.

Then talks about throwing acid in the face of a politician, failing to see the hypocrisy in the process.

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rusty - 9 Feb 2020 9:57 AM
paulbagzFC - 9 Feb 2020 8:18 AM

It was an interesting debate and then this happened...



There is no such thing as interesting when you're involved rusty.

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Munrubenmuz - 9 Feb 2020 3:23 PM
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Yes but I don't want him murdered or killed.  Voted out would be fine.

Rusty has a problem with outspoken women or women in positions of power.  He's shown that time and time and again.  Matter of fact you do too.

Get help.

I actually prefer more women to enter power.  In the current climate power hungry men are keen to appeal to women by tailoring policy exclusively for women, which leads to systemic structural sexism that favours women over men.  For example we hear a lot more about womens issues such as domestic violence, gender pay gap and quotas than we do in male suicide rates, boys underperformance in schools and dying give years average before women.  If this stat was reversed there would be widespread outrage, regardless of the cause.  If we had gender balance hopefully that would lead to tailoring policy on need rather than gender.  Also your accusation is false on the basis I cast my last federal election vote for a party that is currently lead by a woman ;)
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Munrubenmuz - 9 Feb 2020 3:01 PM
rusty - 6 Feb 2020 10:18 PM

Why?  In all seriousness, why?

Here's someone who wants to make the world a better place, irrespective if you agree with her policies or not,  and you would happily have her murdered because you don't like her.

You rant and rave about 'the left' and then you say rubbish like this.

You are not well.

“wants to make the world a better place”

lol


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Munrubenmuz - 9 Feb 2020 3:23 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 9 Feb 2020 3:07 PM

Yes but I don't want him murdered or killed.  Voted out would be fine.

Rusty has a problem with outspoken women or women in positions of power.  He's shown that time and time and again.  Matter of fact you do too.

Get help.

Show me one post of mine where I have made a n ad home attack against someone's gender and not their ideas.  One will do.

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Enzo Bearzot - 9 Feb 2020 3:07 PM
Munrubenmuz - 9 Feb 2020 3:01 PM

I could ask you the same about Trump and your answer would boil down to the same thing: You don't like him

Yes but I don't want him murdered or killed.  Voted out would be fine.

Rusty has a problem with outspoken women or women in positions of power.  He's shown that time and time and again.  Matter of fact you do too.

Get help.


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Munrubenmuz - 9 Feb 2020 3:01 PM
rusty - 6 Feb 2020 10:18 PM

Why?  In all seriousness, why?

Here's someone who wants to make the world a better place,irrespective if you agree with her policies or not,  and you would happily have her murdered because you don't like her.

You rant and rave about 'the left' and then you say rubbish like this.

You are not well.

I could ask you the same about Trump and your answer would boil down to the same thing: You don't like him

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And just for shits and giggles.


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3.21 to 4.25.  Compare and contrast.

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rusty - 6 Feb 2020 10:18 PM
I know its wrong and i shouldnt say it, but if I had a vat of acid I would throw Elizabeth Warren in it, she is that insufferable.

Why?  In all seriousness, why?

Here's someone who wants to make the world a better place, irrespective if you agree with her policies or not,  and you would happily have her murdered because you don't like her.

You rant and rave about 'the left' and then you say rubbish like this.

You are not well.


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BrisbaneBhoy - 9 Feb 2020 1:18 PM
Americans are in a league of their own when it comes to over reactions and being paranoid.  This MSNBC news guy has lost it.  He fears if Burnie gets elected there may be mass executions in Central Park...

https://www.rt.com/usa/480412-chris-matthews-rant-sanders-socialism/

Americans, they are a special bread 🤣

Except he doesn't say that.  In fact he said:

"“I believe if Castro and the Reds had won the Cold War there would have been executions in Central Park and I might have been one of the ones getting executed — and certain other people would be there cheering.”

and

"bringing the conversation back around to Castro who he said everyone thought was “great” until he began “shooting every one of his enemies.”

and on Democratic Socialism:

"Okay, that's harmless, that's basically a capitalist country with a lot of good social welfare programs. Denmark is harmless,"




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inala brah - 9 Feb 2020 2:40 PM
some really obvious predictions. 

sanders will get screwed again by the democratic party and wont be the candidate.

trump will win. if there is a sniff of losing he will likely escalate the war with iran (again) or escalate a similar international conflict.
  • you cannot deny that trump will likely refuse the loss. 
  • civil functioning in the U.S. has already become quite bankrupt and beholden to populist right politics 
  • there is a large right wing propaganda media machine which has now established itself as the most popular media source - supported by 2 oligarch families: murdochs and kochs
  • there is a (number of) large heavily armed militia which has begun recent practice deployments
  • the judicial arm has been stacked with conservative right wing appointments
  • the military, fbi, and pentagon have been progressively stacked with conservative political appointments 

Except:

1.  there is NO  war with Iran ( Iran has gone very quiet all of the sudden) and

2. tell me what "similar international conflict" is there right now that he going to escalate?

Some facts please.

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some really obvious predictions. 

sanders will get screwed again by the democratic party and wont be the candidate.

trump will win. if there is a sniff of losing he will likely escalate the war with iran (again) or escalate a similar international conflict.

but IF trump loses he will refuse to accept the outcome and the U.S. will enter a the next stage of decline of their empire. and this is a very real possibility.
  • you cannot deny that trump will likely refuse the loss. 
  • civil functioning in the U.S. has already become quite bankrupt and beholden to populist right politics 
  • there is a large right wing propaganda media machine which has now established itself as the most popular media source - supported by 2 oligarch families: murdochs and kochs
  • there is a (number of) large heavily armed militia which has begun recent practice deployments
  • the judicial arm has been stacked with conservative right wing appointments
  • the military, fbi, and pentagon have been progressively stacked with conservative political appointments 


 




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