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+x+xIt's definitely not Ballymore or Perry Park because trying to work with Rugby QLD or the YMCA/Strikers would be a shit fight due to politics, not to mention wealthy local residents. Albion Park is also probably unlikely because racing QLD want to develop it to get $$. The fact that it needs support from Stadiums Queensland indicates it must be on or adjacent to one of their properties. That narrows the list down. Suncorp and the Gabba are obviously out of the picture. The other options with available land are: Entertainment Centre at Boondal
Seems way too far away from the CBD Sleeman Sports Complex
Too far, no transport and on a hill in bush, it would be a very odd choice, so lets rule that out. Queensland Tennis Centre
This could be the dark horse. Closest to city, two main train lines and the state government still has a parcel of land adjacent for future expansion. It would be a new venue rather than a reconfiguration though. QSAC
This to me doesn't seem close to the city but I do live on the Northside. However, if they do mean reconfiguration this would be the most likely option. There has been talk for many years about knocking down all but the main grandstand(s) for a more appropriate sized venue. The sheer size and age of the stadium has been enormously expensive to maintain for the government. Reconfiguring this would mean loosing the athletics track though, which would be odd given they just spent $$$ redeveloping it to international standard. There's also a connection to the new Brisbane Metro.The other possibility is that they move the adjacent State Athletics Facility into the main stadium and build something new on that site. It does have one grandstand at the moment. It obviously can’t be QSAC, it’s capacity is too big plus it cannot be converted to a rectangular stadium (something, something legacy) Well personally I hope it's not. But I'm not sure about that. Legacy is great and all but when it costs the State Government $1.5 mill/year to maintain a barely used facility they might decide to do something different. It's a long shot but it's possible. I remember for the Davis Cup they put a temporary court in front of the main grandstand, then surrounded the other 3 sides with high temporary seating. Capacity was only 15,000. Because of the corporate boxes the main grandstand doesn't seat as many as people think. Most of the stadiums capacity is in the other 3 sides along the metal benches. Those can always be demolished and replaced with something smaller. The final cost for Dolphin Stadium after stage 3 is around $15m for almost 12,000 seats. So $60 million isn't a stretch to do something like that. All hypothetical of course, I would prefer something at Perry Park but the Strikers and all that make it unlikely.
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+x+x+xIt's definitely not Ballymore or Perry Park because trying to work with Rugby QLD or the YMCA/Strikers would be a shit fight due to politics, not to mention wealthy local residents. Albion Park is also probably unlikely because racing QLD want to develop it to get $$. The fact that it needs support from Stadiums Queensland indicates it must be on or adjacent to one of their properties. That narrows the list down. Suncorp and the Gabba are obviously out of the picture. The other options with available land are: Entertainment Centre at Boondal
Seems way too far away from the CBD Sleeman Sports Complex
Too far, no transport and on a hill in bush, it would be a very odd choice, so lets rule that out. Queensland Tennis Centre
This could be the dark horse. Closest to city, two main train lines and the state government still has a parcel of land adjacent for future expansion. It would be a new venue rather than a reconfiguration though. QSAC
This to me doesn't seem close to the city but I do live on the Northside. However, if they do mean reconfiguration this would be the most likely option. There has been talk for many years about knocking down all but the main grandstand(s) for a more appropriate sized venue. The sheer size and age of the stadium has been enormously expensive to maintain for the government. Reconfiguring this would mean loosing the athletics track though, which would be odd given they just spent $$$ redeveloping it to international standard. There's also a connection to the new Brisbane Metro.The other possibility is that they move the adjacent State Athletics Facility into the main stadium and build something new on that site. It does have one grandstand at the moment. It obviously can’t be QSAC, it’s capacity is too big plus it cannot be converted to a rectangular stadium (something, something legacy) Well personally I hope it's not. But I'm not sure about that. Legacy is great and all but when it costs the State Government $1.5 mill/year to maintain a barely used facility they might decide to do something different. It's a long shot but it's possible. I remember for the Davis Cup they put a temporary court in front of the main grandstand, then surrounded the other 3 sides with high temporary seating. Capacity was only 15,000. Because of the corporate boxes the main grandstand doesn't seat as many as people think. Most of the stadiums capacity is in the other 3 sides along the metal benches. Those can always be demolished and replaced with something smaller. The final cost for Dolphin Stadium after stage 3 is around $15m for almost 12,000 seats. So $60 million isn't a stretch to do something like that. All hypothetical of course, I would prefer something at Perry Park but the Strikers and all that make it unlikely. Yeah, it’s not QSAC. The main stand is massive add three new stands, and you don’t get 11k
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+x+x+x+xIt's definitely not Ballymore or Perry Park because trying to work with Rugby QLD or the YMCA/Strikers would be a shit fight due to politics, not to mention wealthy local residents. Albion Park is also probably unlikely because racing QLD want to develop it to get $$. The fact that it needs support from Stadiums Queensland indicates it must be on or adjacent to one of their properties. That narrows the list down. Suncorp and the Gabba are obviously out of the picture. The other options with available land are: Entertainment Centre at Boondal
Seems way too far away from the CBD Sleeman Sports Complex
Too far, no transport and on a hill in bush, it would be a very odd choice, so lets rule that out. Queensland Tennis Centre
This could be the dark horse. Closest to city, two main train lines and the state government still has a parcel of land adjacent for future expansion. It would be a new venue rather than a reconfiguration though. QSAC
This to me doesn't seem close to the city but I do live on the Northside. However, if they do mean reconfiguration this would be the most likely option. There has been talk for many years about knocking down all but the main grandstand(s) for a more appropriate sized venue. The sheer size and age of the stadium has been enormously expensive to maintain for the government. Reconfiguring this would mean loosing the athletics track though, which would be odd given they just spent $$$ redeveloping it to international standard. There's also a connection to the new Brisbane Metro.The other possibility is that they move the adjacent State Athletics Facility into the main stadium and build something new on that site. It does have one grandstand at the moment. It obviously can’t be QSAC, it’s capacity is too big plus it cannot be converted to a rectangular stadium (something, something legacy) Well personally I hope it's not. But I'm not sure about that. Legacy is great and all but when it costs the State Government $1.5 mill/year to maintain a barely used facility they might decide to do something different. It's a long shot but it's possible. I remember for the Davis Cup they put a temporary court in front of the main grandstand, then surrounded the other 3 sides with high temporary seating. Capacity was only 15,000. Because of the corporate boxes the main grandstand doesn't seat as many as people think. Most of the stadiums capacity is in the other 3 sides along the metal benches. Those can always be demolished and replaced with something smaller. The final cost for Dolphin Stadium after stage 3 is around $15m for almost 12,000 seats. So $60 million isn't a stretch to do something like that. All hypothetical of course, I would prefer something at Perry Park but the Strikers and all that make it unlikely. Yeah, it’s not QSAC. The main stand is massive add three new stands, and you don’t get 11k Where do you think it will be? Or should I say can you tell us ;)
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+x+x+x+x+xIt's definitely not Ballymore or Perry Park because trying to work with Rugby QLD or the YMCA/Strikers would be a shit fight due to politics, not to mention wealthy local residents. Albion Park is also probably unlikely because racing QLD want to develop it to get $$. The fact that it needs support from Stadiums Queensland indicates it must be on or adjacent to one of their properties. That narrows the list down. Suncorp and the Gabba are obviously out of the picture. The other options with available land are: Entertainment Centre at Boondal
Seems way too far away from the CBD Sleeman Sports Complex
Too far, no transport and on a hill in bush, it would be a very odd choice, so lets rule that out. Queensland Tennis Centre
This could be the dark horse. Closest to city, two main train lines and the state government still has a parcel of land adjacent for future expansion. It would be a new venue rather than a reconfiguration though. QSAC
This to me doesn't seem close to the city but I do live on the Northside. However, if they do mean reconfiguration this would be the most likely option. There has been talk for many years about knocking down all but the main grandstand(s) for a more appropriate sized venue. The sheer size and age of the stadium has been enormously expensive to maintain for the government. Reconfiguring this would mean loosing the athletics track though, which would be odd given they just spent $$$ redeveloping it to international standard. There's also a connection to the new Brisbane Metro.The other possibility is that they move the adjacent State Athletics Facility into the main stadium and build something new on that site. It does have one grandstand at the moment. It obviously can’t be QSAC, it’s capacity is too big plus it cannot be converted to a rectangular stadium (something, something legacy) Well personally I hope it's not. But I'm not sure about that. Legacy is great and all but when it costs the State Government $1.5 mill/year to maintain a barely used facility they might decide to do something different. It's a long shot but it's possible. I remember for the Davis Cup they put a temporary court in front of the main grandstand, then surrounded the other 3 sides with high temporary seating. Capacity was only 15,000. Because of the corporate boxes the main grandstand doesn't seat as many as people think. Most of the stadiums capacity is in the other 3 sides along the metal benches. Those can always be demolished and replaced with something smaller. The final cost for Dolphin Stadium after stage 3 is around $15m for almost 12,000 seats. So $60 million isn't a stretch to do something like that. All hypothetical of course, I would prefer something at Perry Park but the Strikers and all that make it unlikely. Yeah, it’s not QSAC. The main stand is massive add three new stands, and you don’t get 11k Where do you think it will be? I posted a while back that the RSF have been involved in these discussions so through that I am aware of several locations but I can’t say which ones, I’m not sure where the club settled in the end. (We were only consulted on this not directly involved .... but I know there have been close to 15 locations proposed).
Location will be a political decision though - who wants it more, who has the regeneration plan, and who can get funds etc?
In the work we did, close to the CBD looked near impossible - land value was huge and a stadium occupying premium so I’d expect locations to be out of town not in it ($60m supports that opinion).
as a supporters group we will likely ask for the possible locations to be published and fans consulted as soon as possible
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+x+x+x+x+x+xIt's definitely not Ballymore or Perry Park because trying to work with Rugby QLD or the YMCA/Strikers would be a shit fight due to politics, not to mention wealthy local residents. Albion Park is also probably unlikely because racing QLD want to develop it to get $$. The fact that it needs support from Stadiums Queensland indicates it must be on or adjacent to one of their properties. That narrows the list down. Suncorp and the Gabba are obviously out of the picture. The other options with available land are: Entertainment Centre at Boondal
Seems way too far away from the CBD Sleeman Sports Complex
Too far, no transport and on a hill in bush, it would be a very odd choice, so lets rule that out. Queensland Tennis Centre
This could be the dark horse. Closest to city, two main train lines and the state government still has a parcel of land adjacent for future expansion. It would be a new venue rather than a reconfiguration though. QSAC
This to me doesn't seem close to the city but I do live on the Northside. However, if they do mean reconfiguration this would be the most likely option. There has been talk for many years about knocking down all but the main grandstand(s) for a more appropriate sized venue. The sheer size and age of the stadium has been enormously expensive to maintain for the government. Reconfiguring this would mean loosing the athletics track though, which would be odd given they just spent $$$ redeveloping it to international standard. There's also a connection to the new Brisbane Metro.The other possibility is that they move the adjacent State Athletics Facility into the main stadium and build something new on that site. It does have one grandstand at the moment. It obviously can’t be QSAC, it’s capacity is too big plus it cannot be converted to a rectangular stadium (something, something legacy) Well personally I hope it's not. But I'm not sure about that. Legacy is great and all but when it costs the State Government $1.5 mill/year to maintain a barely used facility they might decide to do something different. It's a long shot but it's possible. I remember for the Davis Cup they put a temporary court in front of the main grandstand, then surrounded the other 3 sides with high temporary seating. Capacity was only 15,000. Because of the corporate boxes the main grandstand doesn't seat as many as people think. Most of the stadiums capacity is in the other 3 sides along the metal benches. Those can always be demolished and replaced with something smaller. The final cost for Dolphin Stadium after stage 3 is around $15m for almost 12,000 seats. So $60 million isn't a stretch to do something like that. All hypothetical of course, I would prefer something at Perry Park but the Strikers and all that make it unlikely. Yeah, it’s not QSAC. The main stand is massive add three new stands, and you don’t get 11k Where do you think it will be? I posted a while back that the RSF have been involved in these discussions so through that I am aware of several locations but I can’t say which ones, I’m not sure where the club settled in the end. (We were only consulted on this not directly involved .... but I know there have been close to 15 locations proposed).
Location will be a political decision though - who wants it more, who has the regeneration plan, and who can get funds etc?
In the work we did, close to the CBD looked near impossible - land value was huge and a stadium occupying premium so I’d eclecticism locations to be out of town not in it ($60m supports that opinion).
as a supporters group we will likely ask for the possible locations to be published and fans consulted as soon as possible Fair enough, in the early days of the MLS when owners went down the small stadium route they often built in Industrial areas with fairly simple stadia to keep costs down. So I'm guessing this would support that type of model. Do you know if the club will actually own or maintain any interest in the venue directly? I've often felt that in the whole boutique stadiums debate in Australia people have forgotten it's not just about better atmosphere but also financial stability. Owning your own stadium comes with a raft of extra revenue opportunities if done right.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xIt's definitely not Ballymore or Perry Park because trying to work with Rugby QLD or the YMCA/Strikers would be a shit fight due to politics, not to mention wealthy local residents. Albion Park is also probably unlikely because racing QLD want to develop it to get $$. The fact that it needs support from Stadiums Queensland indicates it must be on or adjacent to one of their properties. That narrows the list down. Suncorp and the Gabba are obviously out of the picture. The other options with available land are: Entertainment Centre at Boondal
Seems way too far away from the CBD Sleeman Sports Complex
Too far, no transport and on a hill in bush, it would be a very odd choice, so lets rule that out. Queensland Tennis Centre
This could be the dark horse. Closest to city, two main train lines and the state government still has a parcel of land adjacent for future expansion. It would be a new venue rather than a reconfiguration though. QSAC
This to me doesn't seem close to the city but I do live on the Northside. However, if they do mean reconfiguration this would be the most likely option. There has been talk for many years about knocking down all but the main grandstand(s) for a more appropriate sized venue. The sheer size and age of the stadium has been enormously expensive to maintain for the government. Reconfiguring this would mean loosing the athletics track though, which would be odd given they just spent $$$ redeveloping it to international standard. There's also a connection to the new Brisbane Metro.The other possibility is that they move the adjacent State Athletics Facility into the main stadium and build something new on that site. It does have one grandstand at the moment. It obviously can’t be QSAC, it’s capacity is too big plus it cannot be converted to a rectangular stadium (something, something legacy) Well personally I hope it's not. But I'm not sure about that. Legacy is great and all but when it costs the State Government $1.5 mill/year to maintain a barely used facility they might decide to do something different. It's a long shot but it's possible. I remember for the Davis Cup they put a temporary court in front of the main grandstand, then surrounded the other 3 sides with high temporary seating. Capacity was only 15,000. Because of the corporate boxes the main grandstand doesn't seat as many as people think. Most of the stadiums capacity is in the other 3 sides along the metal benches. Those can always be demolished and replaced with something smaller. The final cost for Dolphin Stadium after stage 3 is around $15m for almost 12,000 seats. So $60 million isn't a stretch to do something like that. All hypothetical of course, I would prefer something at Perry Park but the Strikers and all that make it unlikely. Yeah, it’s not QSAC. The main stand is massive add three new stands, and you don’t get 11k Where do you think it will be? I posted a while back that the RSF have been involved in these discussions so through that I am aware of several locations but I can’t say which ones, I’m not sure where the club settled in the end. (We were only consulted on this not directly involved .... but I know there have been close to 15 locations proposed).
Location will be a political decision though - who wants it more, who has the regeneration plan, and who can get funds etc?
In the work we did, close to the CBD looked near impossible - land value was huge and a stadium occupying premium so I’d eclecticism locations to be out of town not in it ($60m supports that opinion).
as a supporters group we will likely ask for the possible locations to be published and fans consulted as soon as possible Fair enough, in the early days of the MLS when owners went down the small stadium route they often built in Industrial areas with fairly simple stadia to keep costs down. So I'm guessing this would support that type of model. Do you know if the club will actually own or maintain any interest in the venue directly? I've often felt that in the whole boutique stadiums debate in Australia people have forgotten where it's been done elsewhere, it's not just about better atmosphere but also financial stability. Owning your own stadium comes with a raft of extra revenue opportunities if done right. Agreed. Again I can inky day what we said to them.
We urged them not to co-locate with another sport, or if they did to at least be the prime tenant, we urged them to own the stadium and not let government or a management company own it, and if they couldn’t own infrastructure to st least get a long term Jesse over it.
We researched and gave them numerous examples including Bear Stadiums and several from the MLS. Dolphin was a pilot to test fans reaction to boutique and it’s been a huge success
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xIt's definitely not Ballymore or Perry Park because trying to work with Rugby QLD or the YMCA/Strikers would be a shit fight due to politics, not to mention wealthy local residents. Albion Park is also probably unlikely because racing QLD want to develop it to get $$. The fact that it needs support from Stadiums Queensland indicates it must be on or adjacent to one of their properties. That narrows the list down. Suncorp and the Gabba are obviously out of the picture. The other options with available land are: Entertainment Centre at Boondal
Seems way too far away from the CBD Sleeman Sports Complex
Too far, no transport and on a hill in bush, it would be a very odd choice, so lets rule that out. Queensland Tennis Centre
This could be the dark horse. Closest to city, two main train lines and the state government still has a parcel of land adjacent for future expansion. It would be a new venue rather than a reconfiguration though. QSAC
This to me doesn't seem close to the city but I do live on the Northside. However, if they do mean reconfiguration this would be the most likely option. There has been talk for many years about knocking down all but the main grandstand(s) for a more appropriate sized venue. The sheer size and age of the stadium has been enormously expensive to maintain for the government. Reconfiguring this would mean loosing the athletics track though, which would be odd given they just spent $$$ redeveloping it to international standard. There's also a connection to the new Brisbane Metro.The other possibility is that they move the adjacent State Athletics Facility into the main stadium and build something new on that site. It does have one grandstand at the moment. It obviously can’t be QSAC, it’s capacity is too big plus it cannot be converted to a rectangular stadium (something, something legacy) Well personally I hope it's not. But I'm not sure about that. Legacy is great and all but when it costs the State Government $1.5 mill/year to maintain a barely used facility they might decide to do something different. It's a long shot but it's possible. I remember for the Davis Cup they put a temporary court in front of the main grandstand, then surrounded the other 3 sides with high temporary seating. Capacity was only 15,000. Because of the corporate boxes the main grandstand doesn't seat as many as people think. Most of the stadiums capacity is in the other 3 sides along the metal benches. Those can always be demolished and replaced with something smaller. The final cost for Dolphin Stadium after stage 3 is around $15m for almost 12,000 seats. So $60 million isn't a stretch to do something like that. All hypothetical of course, I would prefer something at Perry Park but the Strikers and all that make it unlikely. Yeah, it’s not QSAC. The main stand is massive add three new stands, and you don’t get 11k Where do you think it will be? I posted a while back that the RSF have been involved in these discussions so through that I am aware of several locations but I can’t say which ones, I’m not sure where the club settled in the end. (We were only consulted on this not directly involved .... but I know there have been close to 15 locations proposed).
Location will be a political decision though - who wants it more, who has the regeneration plan, and who can get funds etc?
In the work we did, close to the CBD looked near impossible - land value was huge and a stadium occupying premium so I’d eclecticism locations to be out of town not in it ($60m supports that opinion).
as a supporters group we will likely ask for the possible locations to be published and fans consulted as soon as possible Fair enough, in the early days of the MLS when owners went down the small stadium route they often built in Industrial areas with fairly simple stadia to keep costs down. So I'm guessing this would support that type of model. Do you know if the club will actually own or maintain any interest in the venue directly? I've often felt that in the whole boutique stadiums debate in Australia people have forgotten where it's been done elsewhere, it's not just about better atmosphere but also financial stability. Owning your own stadium comes with a raft of extra revenue opportunities if done right. Agreed. Again I can inky day what we said to them.
We urged them not to co-locate with another sport, or if they did to at least be the prime tenant, we urged them to own the stadium and not let government or a management company own it, and if they couldn’t own infrastructure to st least get a long term Jesse over it.
We researched and gave them numerous examples including Bear Stadiums and several from the MLS. Dolphin was a pilot to test fans reaction to boutique and it’s been a huge success Nice. I do like the Bear Stadiums concept. Here's hoping then.
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Imagine Roar playing out of their own boutique stadium, while MV are still getting the piss taken out of them by a ragtag bunch of hippies over some dump...
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I think the ideal size is 20k for Brisbane. A winning Brisbane team gets the crowd numbers over 15k. My choice is Perry park. Close to trains, valley and breaky creek hotel. What about Spencer park? Surely Brisbane city fc wouldn't sell their home ground to their potential rivals in the future if they win an expansion spot.
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This is a club that fairly recently couldn't pay players on time, had a wind up order filed for 12 months unpaid rent and owed money to a laundromat. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for them and this is great for Brisbane but it's still the Bakries in charge and I'll be waiting for some more concrete information before believing they are actually going to drop any money into a stadium.
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+xThis is a club that fairly recently couldn't pay players on time, had a wind up order filed for 12 months unpaid rent and owed money to a laundromat. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for them and this is great for Brisbane but it's still the Bakries in charge and I'll be waiting for some more concrete information before believing they are actually going to drop any money into a stadium. “Fairly recently” being five years ago?
Whilst I agree with your caution, especially over who pays for this, let’s at least applaud the ambition.
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+xI think the ideal size is 20k for Brisbane. A winning Brisbane team gets the crowd numbers over 15k. My choice is Perry park. Close to trains, valley and breaky creek hotel. What about Spencer park? Surely Brisbane city fc wouldn't sell their home ground to their potential rivals in the future if they win an expansion spot. Spencer Park is a no go. One the sidelines is far too close to Breakfast Creek for serious redevelopment. It'd be capable of a smaller upgrade suitable for a 2nd division team but that's pretty much it.
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+x+xThe journo seems to have been left with the impression that it's not Perry Park, but without a direct quote denying it, I'm still betting that's where they're looking at. No it’s not. Out of respect for Strikers that play there, the YMCA that have the lease, and the local residents have stated they will oppose its redevelopment it’s not on the list. Lmao imagine living in Bowen Hills and complaining about development when you've got Newstead and the fucking Valley right next door.
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+x+xI think the ideal size is 20k for Brisbane. A winning Brisbane team gets the crowd numbers over 15k. My choice is Perry park. Close to trains, valley and breaky creek hotel. What about Spencer park? Surely Brisbane city fc wouldn't sell their home ground to their potential rivals in the future if they win an expansion spot. Spencer Park is a no go. One the sidelines is far too close to Breakfast Creek for serious redevelopment. It'd be capable of a smaller upgrade suitable for a 2nd division team but that's pretty much it. I’m intrugued why Melbourne Terrace thinks Roar could take over Spencer Park and “re-purpose it” ... what do people think goes on at Spencer Park 😂
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+x+x+xThe journo seems to have been left with the impression that it's not Perry Park, but without a direct quote denying it, I'm still betting that's where they're looking at. No it’s not. Out of respect for Strikers that play there, the YMCA that have the lease, and the local residents have stated they will oppose its redevelopment it’s not on the list. Lmao imagine living in Bowen Hills and complaining about development when you've got Newstead and the fucking Valley right next door. Opposing development is a new national sport
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+x+x+xI think the ideal size is 20k for Brisbane. A winning Brisbane team gets the crowd numbers over 15k. My choice is Perry park. Close to trains, valley and breaky creek hotel. What about Spencer park? Surely Brisbane city fc wouldn't sell their home ground to their potential rivals in the future if they win an expansion spot. Spencer Park is a no go. One the sidelines is far too close to Breakfast Creek for serious redevelopment. It'd be capable of a smaller upgrade suitable for a 2nd division team but that's pretty much it. I’m intrugued why Melbourne Terrace thinks Roar could take over Spencer Park and “re-purpose it” ... what do people think goes on at Spencer Park 😂 Think you've got me mixed up with someone else. I have my own stupid brisbane stadium ideas that will never get up thank you very much.
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We don’t know what commuter/public transport traffic will be like in the future.
Team up with Souths Logan and build it on the roof of Arndale Shopping Centre.
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+xImagine Roar playing out of their own boutique stadium, while MV are still getting the piss taken out of them by a ragtag bunch of hippies over some dump... I’ll pay that ....
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their stadium has to be near the train station, at least as close a walk to suncorp if they want the get a consistent crowd over 10k, its all about convenience but at the same time if they have the stadium in Logan it will be a disaster.
Families let alone most people won't want to travel to a rough area at night, let alone families and kids.
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+xtheir stadium has to be near the train station, at least as close a walk to suncorp if they want the get a consistent crowd over 10k, its all about convenience but at the same time if they have the stadium in Logan it will be a disaster. Families let alone most people won't want to travel to a rough area at night, let alone families and kids. So A-League clubs should NOT be following the Tarneit model?
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+xtheir stadium has to be near the train station, at least as close a walk to suncorp if they want the get a consistent crowd over 10k, its all about convenience but at the same time if they have the stadium in Logan it will be a disaster. Families let alone most people won't want to travel to a rough area at night, let alone families and kids. Meh it’s only hype. I have said here before but when I met people at parties in northside and said I was from Logan they pretty much thought I would stab them at some point. Its important to remember Beenleigh used to be GC until 2008.
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+xtheir stadium has to be near the train station, at least as close a walk to suncorp if they want the get a consistent crowd over 10k, its all about convenience but at the same time if they have the stadium in Logan it will be a disaster. Families let alone most people won't want to travel to a rough area at night, let alone families and kids. Again that’s not entirely correct. Transport to.from the stadium is much more than just trains.
Ballymore stadium is located a near train station but the capacity to move fans after a game is extremely low, trains can’t even move a small crowd of 5,000.
Suncorp is unique in having high capacity trains passing directly by due to its proximity to the city Center. But even then it is complemented by dedicated bus services and car parking in nearby private car parks.
Putting on special trains and busses is cost prohibitive, especially for small crowds of 10-15k.
A train station is nice to have yes, but in a non-CBD area is only likely to service a fraction of the crowd.
Same too scheduled bus services.
And anyone that has to make multiple changes is highly unlikely to travel.
A stadium further out from the Center of the city brings the car back in to focus. For Midweek cup games at Ballymore and Perry Park Roar will draw 2-3k but at Dolphin Stadium 6k+ ... the reason is people can drive and park at, or close to, the stadium.
If the new stadium doesn’t have a blend of transport options, and in particular car parking, it just won’t work
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+xThis is a club that fairly recently couldn't pay players on time, had a wind up order filed for 12 months unpaid rent and owed money to a laundromat. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for them and this is great for Brisbane but it's still the Bakries in charge and I'll be waiting for some more concrete information before believing they are actually going to drop any money into a stadium. They're not great with numbers, that's for sure.
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+x+xtheir stadium has to be near the train station, at least as close a walk to suncorp if they want the get a consistent crowd over 10k, its all about convenience but at the same time if they have the stadium in Logan it will be a disaster. Families let alone most people won't want to travel to a rough area at night, let alone families and kids. Again that’s not entirely correct. Transport to.from the stadium is much more than just trains.
Ballymore stadium is located a near train station but the capacity to move fans after a game is extremely low, trains can’t even move a small crowd of 5,000.
Suncorp is unique in having high capacity trains passing directly by due to its proximity to the city Center. But even then it is complemented by dedicated bus services and car parking in nearby private car parks.
Putting on special trains and busses is cost prohibitive, especially for small crowds of 10-15k.
A train station is nice to have yes, but in a non-CBD area is only likely to service a fraction of the crowd.
Same too scheduled bus services.
And anyone that has to make multiple changes is highly unlikely to travel.
A stadium further out from the Center of the city brings the car back in to focus. For Midweek cup games at Ballymore and Perry Park Roar will draw 2-3k but at Dolphin Stadium 6k+ ... the reason is people can drive and park at, or close to, the stadium.
If the new stadium doesn’t have a blend of transport options, and in particular car parking, it just won’t work Homebush in Sydney is non CBD seems to have had no problems moving crowds of up to 100k .
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+x+xtheir stadium has to be near the train station, at least as close a walk to suncorp if they want the get a consistent crowd over 10k, its all about convenience but at the same time if they have the stadium in Logan it will be a disaster. Families let alone most people won't want to travel to a rough area at night, let alone families and kids. Meh it’s only hype. I have said here before but when I met people at parties in northside and said I was from Logan they pretty much thought I would stab them at some point. Its important to remember Beenleigh used to be GC until 2008. No doubt, i get that living in west sdyney but its just what people think and no matter what you say it wont change their mind.
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+x+xtheir stadium has to be near the train station, at least as close a walk to suncorp if they want the get a consistent crowd over 10k, its all about convenience but at the same time if they have the stadium in Logan it will be a disaster. Families let alone most people won't want to travel to a rough area at night, let alone families and kids. Again that’s not entirely correct. Transport to.from the stadium is much more than just trains.
Bally more stadium is located a near train station but the capacity to move fans after a game is extremely low, trains can’t even move a small crowd of 5,000.
Suncorp is unique in having high capacity trains passing directly by due to its proximity to the city Center. But even then it is complemented by dedicated bus services and car parking in nearby private car parks.
Putting on special trains and busses is cost prohibitive, especially for small crowds of 10-15k.
A train station is nice to have yes, but in a non-CBD area is only likely to service a fraction of the crowd.
Same too scheduled bus services.
And anyone that has to make multiple changes is highly unlikely to travel.
A stadium further out from the Center of the city brings the car back in to focus. For Midweek cup games at Ballymore and Perry Park Roar will draw 2-3k but at Dolphin Stadium 6k+ ... the reason is people can drive and park at, or close to, the stadium.
If the new stadium doesn’t have a blend of transport options, and in particular car parking, it just won’t work A 20 min walk from Wilston train station, sun corp is barely a 5 min walk from milton, that is a big difference and it certainly will matter when it comes to crowds, like I said convenience. Also compare to two walks, one has you walking through the park at night while the other is straight forward. The majority of fans will travel by train, that is a fact, only a small majority will use a car, a close by train station is essential or it will fail.
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+x+x+xtheir stadium has to be near the train station, at least as close a walk to suncorp if they want the get a consistent crowd over 10k, its all about convenience but at the same time if they have the stadium in Logan it will be a disaster. Families let alone most people won't want to travel to a rough area at night, let alone families and kids. Again that’s not entirely correct. Transport to.from the stadium is much more than just trains.
Ballymore stadium is located a near train station but the capacity to move fans after a game is extremely low, trains can’t even move a small crowd of 5,000.
Suncorp is unique in having high capacity trains passing directly by due to its proximity to the city Center. But even then it is complemented by dedicated bus services and car parking in nearby private car parks.
Putting on special trains and busses is cost prohibitive, especially for small crowds of 10-15k.
A train station is nice to have yes, but in a non-CBD area is only likely to service a fraction of the crowd.
Same too scheduled bus services.
And anyone that has to make multiple changes is highly unlikely to travel.
A stadium further out from the Center of the city brings the car back in to focus. For Midweek cup games at Ballymore and Perry Park Roar will draw 2-3k but at Dolphin Stadium 6k+ ... the reason is people can drive and park at, or close to, the stadium.
If the new stadium doesn’t have a blend of transport options, and in particular car parking, it just won’t work Homebush in Sydney is non CBD seems to have had no problems moving crowds of up to 100k . Idk about that, every time I've gone to a big game Homebush, it's been a fucking nightmare.The lines at the station post match are enormous because everyone has to go in one direction rather than spilling into different trains straight away. The whole thing was such a fucking mess after the Asian Cup final that it took us hours just to end up at Central and I'm pretty sure the trains also managed to shit the bed for the Honduras game.
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+x+xThis is a club that fairly recently couldn't pay players on time, had a wind up order filed for 12 months unpaid rent and owed money to a laundromat. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for them and this is great for Brisbane but it's still the Bakries in charge and I'll be waiting for some more concrete information before believing they are actually going to drop any money into a stadium. They're not great with numbers, that's for sure. Yeah Yeah - throw enough numbers and some of it is sure to stick...
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+x+x+xtheir stadium has to be near the train station, at least as close a walk to suncorp if they want the get a consistent crowd over 10k, its all about convenience but at the same time if they have the stadium in Logan it will be a disaster. Families let alone most people won't want to travel to a rough area at night, let alone families and kids. Meh it’s only hype. I have said here before but when I met people at parties in northside and said I was from Logan they pretty much thought I would stab them at some point. Its important to remember Beenleigh used to be GC until 2008. No doubt, i get that living in west sdyney but its just what people think and no matter what you say it wont change their mind. Personally I will never accept Logan is Brisbane. Brisbane is one big city. On big council. Unlike any other capital. SEQ doesn’t have many different councils at all in comparison either. A quick example is Brisbane City Council is over 1300km2 City of Sydney is 25km2 so you have Briabane Logan then Gold Coast then NSW. 3 councils. They don’t want Logan. But it I agree with Waz. Logan would work with parking. Public transport isn’t great and everyone drives. Plus you have fact many wouldn’t travel to Suncorp because it is too far. So you would probably end up with new Logan fans. But still be able to keep the Brisbane name. Probably get some GC people too. Another example is Central Coast region and Logan City have about the same population but CC region is 5 times larger in area
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+x+x+x+xtheir stadium has to be near the train station, at least as close a walk to suncorp if they want the get a consistent crowd over 10k, its all about convenience but at the same time if they have the stadium in Logan it will be a disaster. Families let alone most people won't want to travel to a rough area at night, let alone families and kids. Again that’s not entirely correct. Transport to.from the stadium is much more than just trains.
Ballymore stadium is located a near train station but the capacity to move fans after a game is extremely low, trains can’t even move a small crowd of 5,000.
Suncorp is unique in having high capacity trains passing directly by due to its proximity to the city Center. But even then it is complemented by dedicated bus services and car parking in nearby private car parks.
Putting on special trains and busses is cost prohibitive, especially for small crowds of 10-15k.
A train station is nice to have yes, but in a non-CBD area is only likely to service a fraction of the crowd.
Same too scheduled bus services.
And anyone that has to make multiple changes is highly unlikely to travel.
A stadium further out from the Center of the city brings the car back in to focus. For Midweek cup games at Ballymore and Perry Park Roar will draw 2-3k but at Dolphin Stadium 6k+ ... the reason is people can drive and park at, or close to, the stadium.
If the new stadium doesn’t have a blend of transport options, and in particular car parking, it just won’t work Homebush in Sydney is non CBD seems to have had no problems moving crowds of up to 100k . Idk about that, every time I've gone to a big game Homebush, it's been a fucking nightmare.The lines at the station post match are enormous because everyone has to go in one direction rather than spilling into different trains straight away. The whole thing was such a fucking mess after the Asian Cup final that it took us hours just to end up at Central and I'm pretty sure the trains also managed to shit the bed for the Honduras game. But we did get to hear many fans singing "That's the way it's gonna be, little darling" to the mounted police. Who would want to miss an hour of that I ask you?
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