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+x+x+x+xI'm not getting into the second wave era for a financial comparison because the figures aren't available Sweden’s economy contracted 8.3 per cent in the June quarter, compared with Australia’s drop of 7 per cent. According to data compiled by US-based Johns Hopkins University, Australia had recorded 859 COVID-19 deaths (as of September 23), while Sweden had suffered 5,870 deaths. While Sweden's death count is much higher than Australia's, it is only seven times the number of deaths seen in Australia. On those figures, Sweden's rate of deaths per million people is 576.62 compared with Australia’s rate of 34.37. That means the Nordic nation has suffered a death rate more than 16 times that of Australia.
So on what can be looked at so far Sweden has fared worse both heath wise and economically.
That may well change once September GDP figures are available. A couple things
1. While Sweden has fared worse than Australia deaths wise, it has fared much better than most countries in Europe, even those who’ve implemented heavy lock downs like England, France, Italy, Spain etc. Maybe unfair to compare with Australian given the obvious geographical advantages we have that they do not.
2. While Sweden’s economy might have contracted 1.3% more than Australia, they didn’t need to spend $300 billion to artificially prop it up. Also those results was achieved during the peak of the 5,000 deaths, and fared not much worse than Australia who recoded only dozes of deaths during the equivalent period.
3. Those countries that did lock down hard and mandate mask wearing are now experience surging coronavirus infections, only delaying inevitable deaths however leaving a permanent scar on the economy.
4. Australia and NZ handled Covid best, however we were in the enviable position of having so few cases of community transmission that it made the strategy of eradication possible.
Sweden also has a socialist government and the population has a high degree of trust in said Government and as a whole do what their told. -PB They also have corporate tax rates of 16% and balanced budgets. Let’s lower business taxes and reduce expenditure to cure COVID. So is Sweden comparable or not? If not, please don’t cite it as a valid path for us.
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rusty
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+x+x+xI'm not getting into the second wave era for a financial comparison because the figures aren't available Sweden’s economy contracted 8.3 per cent in the June quarter, compared with Australia’s drop of 7 per cent. According to data compiled by US-based Johns Hopkins University, Australia had recorded 859 COVID-19 deaths (as of September 23), while Sweden had suffered 5,870 deaths. While Sweden's death count is much higher than Australia's, it is only seven times the number of deaths seen in Australia. On those figures, Sweden's rate of deaths per million people is 576.62 compared with Australia’s rate of 34.37. That means the Nordic nation has suffered a death rate more than 16 times that of Australia.
So on what can be looked at so far Sweden has fared worse both heath wise and economically.
That may well change once September GDP figures are available. A couple things
1. While Sweden has fared worse than Australia deaths wise, it has fared much better than most countries in Europe, even those who’ve implemented heavy lock downs like England, France, Italy, Spain etc. Maybe unfair to compare with Australian given the obvious geographical advantages we have that they do not.
2. While Sweden’s economy might have contracted 1.3% more than Australia, they didn’t need to spend $300 billion to artificially prop it up. Also those results was achieved during the peak of the 5,000 deaths, and fared not much worse than Australia who recoded only dozes of deaths during the equivalent period.
3. Those countries that did lock down hard and mandate mask wearing are now experience surging coronavirus infections, only delaying inevitable deaths however leaving a permanent scar on the economy.
4. Australia and NZ handled Covid best, however we were in the enviable position of having so few cases of community transmission that it made the strategy of eradication possible.
Sweden also has a socialist government and the population has a high degree of trust in said Government and as a whole do what their told. -PB They also have corporate tax rates of 16% and balanced budgets. Let’s lower business taxes and reduce expenditure to cure COVID.
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+x+xI'm not getting into the second wave era for a financial comparison because the figures aren't available Sweden’s economy contracted 8.3 per cent in the June quarter, compared with Australia’s drop of 7 per cent. According to data compiled by US-based Johns Hopkins University, Australia had recorded 859 COVID-19 deaths (as of September 23), while Sweden had suffered 5,870 deaths. While Sweden's death count is much higher than Australia's, it is only seven times the number of deaths seen in Australia. On those figures, Sweden's rate of deaths per million people is 576.62 compared with Australia’s rate of 34.37. That means the Nordic nation has suffered a death rate more than 16 times that of Australia.
So on what can be looked at so far Sweden has fared worse both heath wise and economically.
That may well change once September GDP figures are available. A couple things
1. While Sweden has fared worse than Australia deaths wise, it has fared much better than most countries in Europe, even those who’ve implemented heavy lock downs like England, France, Italy, Spain etc. Maybe unfair to compare with Australian given the obvious geographical advantages we have that they do not.
2. While Sweden’s economy might have contracted 1.3% more than Australia, they didn’t need to spend $300 billion to artificially prop it up. Also those results was achieved during the peak of the 5,000 deaths, and fared not much worse than Australia who recoded only dozes of deaths during the equivalent period.
3. Those countries that did lock down hard and mandate mask wearing are now experience surging coronavirus infections, only delaying inevitable deaths however leaving a permanent scar on the economy.
4. Australia and NZ handled Covid best, however we were in the enviable position of having so few cases of community transmission that it made the strategy of eradication possible.
Sweden also has a socialist government and the population has a high degree of trust in said Government and as a whole do what their told. -PB
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Wow, I'm so humiliated right now. Rusty showed me irrefutable evidence that Trumped condemned white supremacists, and in the exposed me as a liar and a partisan hack who will readily believe anything from the left without question. Will I come clean and admit that he was right and I was wrong? No! My petty ego cannot handle it. Will I instead attack his comprehension abilities? Yes! That is what I will do, rather than admitting I'm a partisan hack who readily believes anything from the left without fact checking, I will attack his comprehension and in doing so preserve my petty ego from harm. Mwhwhahha Muz reigns supreme!
Bit rich considering you never admitted you were wrong regarding masks stopping the spread of COVID. Masks don’t stop Covid, they only, at best, slow it down. Even if we assumed masks provided 99% efficacy, given enough exposure to covid contaminated air a person will get eventually get sick. But the best estimates for cloth masks are about 60% efficacy, so even if you avoid it once or twice, if are you out and about and participating in society then you’ll get it. The evidence is not at all substantiated that cloth masks provide much protection from people infected with covid. A crappy cloth mask that grandma nitted from her old used underwear is better than nothing, but this idea that masks are the secret elixir thats going to stop covid is wrong and stupid. Look at most of Europe right now, they are going through a major second wave, despite most countries having wearing mandates. Lockdowns work but are economically destructive, social distancing works but are sometimes impractical, and masks only provide at best, some protection. They do NOT stop Covid. Should we force mask wearing? Possibly on public transport, crowded indoor public spaces, hospitals and nursing homes, when it is practical and safe to do so, but ultimately it is up to individuals to heed the warnings and manage their own level of risk. I believe Sweden has best nailed the strategy of how to manage covid, they have successfully controlled the virus all without lock downs or enforced mask wearing, that is because they emphasise the importance of individual responsibility and risk assessment over government policy. You claimed masks "don't do shit for COVID". I directed you to a number of peer reviewed studies to show you are wrong. Even the article you posted had retracted its statement. You were wrong. Admit it. All you can ever do is try to grasp at straws like "look at sweden" (despite experts not knowing yet if immunity is possible, some people are catching it twice) whilst trying to pigeon-hole every event or issue into the left vs right divide when the reality is things are not that simple I might have been speaking rhetorically on masks by saying they don’t do shit, but my point was that they are not the secret antidote many think they are, and their benefits have confounded by the regent surge of infections across Europe deposits mandates enforcing their use. It’s also worth noting and that just because something is “peer reviewed” doesn’t mean it has scientific consensus, and many scientists and epidemiologists dispute the effectiveness of masks. Even if something works in a laboratory under controlled conditions, doesn’t mean those same results will be replicated in uncontrolled volatile environment.
It’s also interesting that you akin Sweden’s success in managing the virus to “grasping at straws”. Why? Sweden is the ONLY countries in the world to reduce deaths from Covid from hundreds per day to almost zero without smashing its economy, forcing masks or spending billions on rescue packages. Clearly there’s something to be leaned here, unless you are ideologically wedded to the idea of compulsory mask wearing, then you will dismiss or downplay the results as “grasping at straws”.
Sweden is also moving away from that plan and moving to a lockdown strategy: https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/the-times/coronavirus-sweden-hopes-voluntary-lockdowns-will-tackle-hotspots/news-story/444c9500f9125c5a6fb778e218ea3d81 The lockdowns are voluntary and localised to the covid hotspots.
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+xI'm not getting into the second wave era for a financial comparison because the figures aren't available Sweden’s economy contracted 8.3 per cent in the June quarter, compared with Australia’s drop of 7 per cent. According to data compiled by US-based Johns Hopkins University, Australia had recorded 859 COVID-19 deaths (as of September 23), while Sweden had suffered 5,870 deaths. While Sweden's death count is much higher than Australia's, it is only seven times the number of deaths seen in Australia. On those figures, Sweden's rate of deaths per million people is 576.62 compared with Australia’s rate of 34.37. That means the Nordic nation has suffered a death rate more than 16 times that of Australia.
So on what can be looked at so far Sweden has fared worse both heath wise and economically.
That may well change once September GDP figures are available. A couple things
1. While Sweden has fared worse than Australia deaths wise, it has fared much better than most countries in Europe, even those who’ve implemented heavy lock downs like England, France, Italy, Spain etc. Maybe unfair to compare with Australian given the obvious geographical advantages we have that they do not.
2. While Sweden’s economy might have contracted 1.3% more than Australia, they didn’t need to spend $300 billion to artificially prop it up. Also those results was achieved during the peak of the 5,000 deaths, and fared not much worse than Australia who recoded only dozes of deaths during the equivalent period.
3. Those countries that did lock down hard and mandate mask wearing are now experience surging coronavirus infections, only delaying inevitable deaths however leaving a permanent scar on the economy.
4. Australia and NZ handled Covid best, however we were in the enviable position of having so few cases of community transmission that it made the strategy of eradication possible.
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Burztur
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Wow, I'm so humiliated right now. Rusty showed me irrefutable evidence that Trumped condemned white supremacists, and in the exposed me as a liar and a partisan hack who will readily believe anything from the left without question. Will I come clean and admit that he was right and I was wrong? No! My petty ego cannot handle it. Will I instead attack his comprehension abilities? Yes! That is what I will do, rather than admitting I'm a partisan hack who readily believes anything from the left without fact checking, I will attack his comprehension and in doing so preserve my petty ego from harm. Mwhwhahha Muz reigns supreme!
Bit rich considering you never admitted you were wrong regarding masks stopping the spread of COVID. Masks don’t stop Covid, they only, at best, slow it down. Even if we assumed masks provided 99% efficacy, given enough exposure to covid contaminated air a person will get eventually get sick. But the best estimates for cloth masks are about 60% efficacy, so even if you avoid it once or twice, if are you out and about and participating in society then you’ll get it. The evidence is not at all substantiated that cloth masks provide much protection from people infected with covid. A crappy cloth mask that grandma nitted from her old used underwear is better than nothing, but this idea that masks are the secret elixir thats going to stop covid is wrong and stupid. Look at most of Europe right now, they are going through a major second wave, despite most countries having wearing mandates. Lockdowns work but are economically destructive, social distancing works but are sometimes impractical, and masks only provide at best, some protection. They do NOT stop Covid. Should we force mask wearing? Possibly on public transport, crowded indoor public spaces, hospitals and nursing homes, when it is practical and safe to do so, but ultimately it is up to individuals to heed the warnings and manage their own level of risk. I believe Sweden has best nailed the strategy of how to manage covid, they have successfully controlled the virus all without lock downs or enforced mask wearing, that is because they emphasise the importance of individual responsibility and risk assessment over government policy. You claimed masks "don't do shit for COVID". I directed you to a number of peer reviewed studies to show you are wrong. Even the article you posted had retracted its statement. You were wrong. Admit it. All you can ever do is try to grasp at straws like "look at sweden" (despite experts not knowing yet if immunity is possible, some people are catching it twice) whilst trying to pigeon-hole every event or issue into the left vs right divide when the reality is things are not that simple I might have been speaking rhetorically on masks by saying they don’t do shit, but my point was that they are not the secret antidote many think they are, and their benefits have confounded by the regent surge of infections across Europe deposits mandates enforcing their use. It’s also worth noting and that just because something is “peer reviewed” doesn’t mean it has scientific consensus, and many scientists and epidemiologists dispute the effectiveness of masks. Even if something works in a laboratory under controlled conditions, doesn’t mean those same results will be replicated in uncontrolled volatile environment.
It’s also interesting that you akin Sweden’s success in managing the virus to “grasping at straws”. Why? Sweden is the ONLY countries in the world to reduce deaths from Covid from hundreds per day to almost zero without smashing its economy, forcing masks or spending billions on rescue packages. Clearly there’s something to be leaned here, unless you are ideologically wedded to the idea of compulsory mask wearing, then you will dismiss or downplay the results as “grasping at straws”.
Sweden is also moving away from that plan and moving to a lockdown strategy: https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/the-times/coronavirus-sweden-hopes-voluntary-lockdowns-will-tackle-hotspots/news-story/444c9500f9125c5a6fb778e218ea3d81
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Burztur
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Wow, I'm so humiliated right now. Rusty showed me irrefutable evidence that Trumped condemned white supremacists, and in the exposed me as a liar and a partisan hack who will readily believe anything from the left without question. Will I come clean and admit that he was right and I was wrong? No! My petty ego cannot handle it. Will I instead attack his comprehension abilities? Yes! That is what I will do, rather than admitting I'm a partisan hack who readily believes anything from the left without fact checking, I will attack his comprehension and in doing so preserve my petty ego from harm. Mwhwhahha Muz reigns supreme!
Bit rich considering you never admitted you were wrong regarding masks stopping the spread of COVID. Masks don’t stop Covid, they only, at best, slow it down. This is it. If at best, it slows it down, then we should all do our bit to slow it down. Give our medical resources as much capacity as we can.
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I'm not getting into the second wave era for a financial comparison because the figures aren't available Sweden’s economy contracted 8.3 per cent in the June quarter, compared with Australia’s drop of 7 per cent. According to data compiled by US-based Johns Hopkins University, Australia had recorded 859 COVID-19 deaths (as of September 23), while Sweden had suffered 5,870 deaths. While Sweden's death count is much higher than Australia's, it is only seven times the number of deaths seen in Australia. On those figures, Sweden's rate of deaths per million people is 576.62 compared with Australia’s rate of 34.37. That means the Nordic nation has suffered a death rate more than 16 times that of Australia.
So on what can be looked at so far Sweden has fared worse both heath wise and economically.
That may well change once September GDP figures are available.
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Wow, I'm so humiliated right now. Rusty showed me irrefutable evidence that Trumped condemned white supremacists, and in the exposed me as a liar and a partisan hack who will readily believe anything from the left without question. Will I come clean and admit that he was right and I was wrong? No! My petty ego cannot handle it. Will I instead attack his comprehension abilities? Yes! That is what I will do, rather than admitting I'm a partisan hack who readily believes anything from the left without fact checking, I will attack his comprehension and in doing so preserve my petty ego from harm. Mwhwhahha Muz reigns supreme!
Bit rich considering you never admitted you were wrong regarding masks stopping the spread of COVID. Masks don’t stop Covid, they only, at best, slow it down. Even if we assumed masks provided 99% efficacy, given enough exposure to covid contaminated air a person will get eventually get sick. But the best estimates for cloth masks are about 60% efficacy, so even if you avoid it once or twice, if are you out and about and participating in society then you’ll get it. The evidence is not at all substantiated that cloth masks provide much protection from people infected with covid. A crappy cloth mask that grandma nitted from her old used underwear is better than nothing, but this idea that masks are the secret elixir thats going to stop covid is wrong and stupid. Look at most of Europe right now, they are going through a major second wave, despite most countries having wearing mandates. Lockdowns work but are economically destructive, social distancing works but are sometimes impractical, and masks only provide at best, some protection. They do NOT stop Covid. Should we force mask wearing? Possibly on public transport, crowded indoor public spaces, hospitals and nursing homes, when it is practical and safe to do so, but ultimately it is up to individuals to heed the warnings and manage their own level of risk. I believe Sweden has best nailed the strategy of how to manage covid, they have successfully controlled the virus all without lock downs or enforced mask wearing, that is because they emphasise the importance of individual responsibility and risk assessment over government policy. You claimed masks "don't do shit for COVID". I directed you to a number of peer reviewed studies to show you are wrong. Even the article you posted had retracted its statement. You were wrong. Admit it. All you can ever do is try to grasp at straws like "look at sweden" (despite experts not knowing yet if immunity is possible, some people are catching it twice) whilst trying to pigeon-hole every event or issue into the left vs right divide when the reality is things are not that simple I might have been speaking rhetorically on masks by saying they don’t do shit, but my point was that they are not the secret antidote many think they are, and their benefits have confounded by the regent surge of infections across Europe deposits mandates enforcing their use. It’s also worth noting and that just because something is “peer reviewed” doesn’t mean it has scientific consensus, and many scientists and epidemiologists dispute the effectiveness of masks. Even if something works in a laboratory under controlled conditions, doesn’t mean those same results will be replicated in uncontrolled volatile environment.
It’s also interesting that you akin Sweden’s success in managing the virus to “grasping at straws”. Why? Sweden is the ONLY countries in the world to reduce deaths from Covid from hundreds per day to almost zero without smashing its economy, forcing masks or spending billions on rescue packages. Clearly there’s something to be leaned here, unless you are ideologically wedded to the idea of compulsory mask wearing, then you will dismiss or downplay the results as “grasping at straws”.
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Wow, I'm so humiliated right now. Rusty showed me irrefutable evidence that Trumped condemned white supremacists, and in the exposed me as a liar and a partisan hack who will readily believe anything from the left without question. Will I come clean and admit that he was right and I was wrong? No! My petty ego cannot handle it. Will I instead attack his comprehension abilities? Yes! That is what I will do, rather than admitting I'm a partisan hack who readily believes anything from the left without fact checking, I will attack his comprehension and in doing so preserve my petty ego from harm. Mwhwhahha Muz reigns supreme!
Bit rich considering you never admitted you were wrong regarding masks stopping the spread of COVID. Masks don’t stop Covid, they only, at best, slow it down. Even if we assumed masks provided 99% efficacy, given enough exposure to covid contaminated air a person will get eventually get sick. But the best estimates for cloth masks are about 60% efficacy, so even if you avoid it once or twice, if are you out and about and participating in society then you’ll get it. The evidence is not at all substantiated that cloth masks provide much protection from people infected with covid. A crappy cloth mask that grandma nitted from her old used underwear is better than nothing, but this idea that masks are the secret elixir thats going to stop covid is wrong and stupid. Look at most of Europe right now, they are going through a major second wave, despite most countries having wearing mandates. Lockdowns work but are economically destructive, social distancing works but are sometimes impractical, and masks only provide at best, some protection. They do NOT stop Covid. Should we force mask wearing? Possibly on public transport, crowded indoor public spaces, hospitals and nursing homes, when it is practical and safe to do so, but ultimately it is up to individuals to heed the warnings and manage their own level of risk. I believe Sweden has best nailed the strategy of how to manage covid, they have successfully controlled the virus all without lock downs or enforced mask wearing, that is because they emphasise the importance of individual responsibility and risk assessment over government policy. You claimed masks "don't do shit for COVID". I directed you to a number of peer reviewed studies to show you are wrong. Even the article you posted had retracted its statement. You were wrong. Admit it. All you can ever do is try to grasp at straws like "look at sweden" (despite experts not knowing yet if immunity is possible, some people are catching it twice) whilst trying to pigeon-hole every event or issue into the left vs right divide when the reality is things are not that simple
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+x+x+x+x+xAh no the FBI have denied its linked to Russia and how can they claim it’s been “widely discredited” when the mainstream press have refused to even acknowledge acknowledge it? Even the Biden campaign has not refuted the allegation. It seems they are fucking scared and have gone into full tilt black ops mode to suppress the story, with the aid of the media and tech firms. It would seem that on the balance of the evidence, then evidence being a laptop that was handed into the FBI, containing emails from Hunter Biden and Ukraine energy officials, directly referencing a meeting that took place between them and Joe Biden, and other emails containing payments to Joe Biden, that would strongly infer that Joe Biden is a corrupt motherfucker. Why is the American press not reporting this? Why are social media platforms suppressing this news and banning users? Why is this not on the agenda for the 3rd debate? Donald Trump was correct when he described the media as the “enemy of the people”. NY Post won't give up any of the material to other media outlets lol You are such a dumb motherfucker it's hilarious. -PB Hahaha since when have media outlets EVER been required to give up their material, sources? You’re brainwashed PB. They don't, but you said why aren't other outlets covering it, and that's the reason why, they don't have a copy of the emails. -PB Hmmm, they didnt have a copy of DT’s taxes, but they had no issue reporting that. You’re brainwashed PB. 🤣🤣🤣 irony is lost on you.
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+x+x+x+xAh no the FBI have denied its linked to Russia and how can they claim it’s been “widely discredited” when the mainstream press have refused to even acknowledge acknowledge it? Even the Biden campaign has not refuted the allegation. It seems they are fucking scared and have gone into full tilt black ops mode to suppress the story, with the aid of the media and tech firms. It would seem that on the balance of the evidence, then evidence being a laptop that was handed into the FBI, containing emails from Hunter Biden and Ukraine energy officials, directly referencing a meeting that took place between them and Joe Biden, and other emails containing payments to Joe Biden, that would strongly infer that Joe Biden is a corrupt motherfucker. Why is the American press not reporting this? Why are social media platforms suppressing this news and banning users? Why is this not on the agenda for the 3rd debate? Donald Trump was correct when he described the media as the “enemy of the people”. NY Post won't give up any of the material to other media outlets lol You are such a dumb motherfucker it's hilarious. -PB Hahaha since when have media outlets EVER been required to give up their material, sources? You’re brainwashed PB. They don't, but you said why aren't other outlets covering it, and that's the reason why, they don't have a copy of the emails. -PB Hmmm, they didnt have a copy of DT’s taxes, but they had no issue reporting that. You’re brainwashed PB.
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+x+x+xAh no the FBI have denied its linked to Russia and how can they claim it’s been “widely discredited” when the mainstream press have refused to even acknowledge acknowledge it? Even the Biden campaign has not refuted the allegation. It seems they are fucking scared and have gone into full tilt black ops mode to suppress the story, with the aid of the media and tech firms. It would seem that on the balance of the evidence, then evidence being a laptop that was handed into the FBI, containing emails from Hunter Biden and Ukraine energy officials, directly referencing a meeting that took place between them and Joe Biden, and other emails containing payments to Joe Biden, that would strongly infer that Joe Biden is a corrupt motherfucker. Why is the American press not reporting this? Why are social media platforms suppressing this news and banning users? Why is this not on the agenda for the 3rd debate? Donald Trump was correct when he described the media as the “enemy of the people”. NY Post won't give up any of the material to other media outlets lol You are such a dumb motherfucker it's hilarious. -PB Hahaha since when have media outlets EVER been required to give up their material, sources? You’re brainwashed PB. They don't, but you said why aren't other outlets covering it, and that's the reason why, they don't have a copy of the emails. -PB
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+x+xAh no the FBI have denied its linked to Russia and how can they claim it’s been “widely discredited” when the mainstream press have refused to even acknowledge acknowledge it? Even the Biden campaign has not refuted the allegation. It seems they are fucking scared and have gone into full tilt black ops mode to suppress the story, with the aid of the media and tech firms. It would seem that on the balance of the evidence, then evidence being a laptop that was handed into the FBI, containing emails from Hunter Biden and Ukraine energy officials, directly referencing a meeting that took place between them and Joe Biden, and other emails containing payments to Joe Biden, that would strongly infer that Joe Biden is a corrupt motherfucker. Why is the American press not reporting this? Why are social media platforms suppressing this news and banning users? Why is this not on the agenda for the 3rd debate? Donald Trump was correct when he described the media as the “enemy of the people”. NY Post won't give up any of the material to other media outlets lol You are such a dumb motherfucker it's hilarious. -PB Hahaha since when have media outlets EVER been required to give up their material, sources? You’re brainwashed PB.
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Wow, I'm so humiliated right now. Rusty showed me irrefutable evidence that Trumped condemned white supremacists, and in the exposed me as a liar and a partisan hack who will readily believe anything from the left without question. Will I come clean and admit that he was right and I was wrong? No! My petty ego cannot handle it. Will I instead attack his comprehension abilities? Yes! That is what I will do, rather than admitting I'm a partisan hack who readily believes anything from the left without fact checking, I will attack his comprehension and in doing so preserve my petty ego from harm. Mwhwhahha Muz reigns supreme!
Bit rich considering you never admitted you were wrong regarding masks stopping the spread of COVID. Masks don’t stop Covid, they only, at best, slow it down. Even if we assumed masks provided 99% efficacy, given enough exposure to covid contaminated air a person will get eventually get sick. But the best estimates for cloth masks are about 60% efficacy, so even if you avoid it once or twice, if are you out and about and participating in society then you’ll get it. The evidence is not at all substantiated that cloth masks provide much protection from people infected with covid. A crappy cloth mask that grandma nitted from her old used underwear is better than nothing, but this idea that masks are the secret elixir thats going to stop covid is wrong and stupid. Look at most of Europe right now, they are going through a major second wave, despite most countries having wearing mandates. Lockdowns work but are economically destructive, social distancing works but are sometimes impractical, and masks only provide at best, some protection. They do NOT stop Covid. Should we force mask wearing? Possibly on public transport, crowded indoor public spaces, hospitals and nursing homes, when it is practical and safe to do so, but ultimately it is up to individuals to heed the warnings and manage their own level of risk. I believe Sweden has best nailed the strategy of how to manage covid, they have successfully controlled the virus all without lock downs or enforced mask wearing, that is because they emphasise the importance of individual responsibility and risk assessment over government policy.
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+xAh no the FBI have denied its linked to Russia and how can they claim it’s been “widely discredited” when the mainstream press have refused to even acknowledge acknowledge it? Even the Biden campaign has not refuted the allegation. It seems they are fucking scared and have gone into full tilt black ops mode to suppress the story, with the aid of the media and tech firms. It would seem that on the balance of the evidence, then evidence being a laptop that was handed into the FBI, containing emails from Hunter Biden and Ukraine energy officials, directly referencing a meeting that took place between them and Joe Biden, and other emails containing payments to Joe Biden, that would strongly infer that Joe Biden is a corrupt motherfucker. Why is the American press not reporting this? Why are social media platforms suppressing this news and banning users? Why is this not on the agenda for the 3rd debate? Donald Trump was correct when he described the media as the “enemy of the people”. NY Post won't give up any of the material to other media outlets lol You are such a dumb motherfucker it's hilarious. -PB
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+xOhhh that’s the new standard for reportable news is it , that it needs to be “verified”? I guess that means they’ll have to go back and issue retractions for reporting in relation to Russia collusion, Trump’s taxes, Stormy Daniels affair and all the other fake news.  You're almost there rusty, just a little further and you'll reach the point. -PB
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Im looking forward to Thursdays debate:
Moderator: “President Trump why is it that you believe that men can’t have periods?”
Trump: ”I wanna talk about the scandal in relations to Joe Biden’s dealings BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP”
Moderator: “Thank you Mr President your time is up now”
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rusty
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Ah no the FBI have denied its linked to Russia and how can they claim it’s been “widely discredited” when the mainstream press have refused to even acknowledge acknowledge it? Even the Biden campaign has not refuted the allegation. It seems they are fucking scared and have gone into full tilt black ops mode to suppress the story, with the aid of the media and tech firms. It would seem that on the balance of the evidence, then evidence being a laptop that was handed into the FBI, containing emails from Hunter Biden and Ukraine energy officials, directly referencing a meeting that took place between them and Joe Biden, and other emails containing payments to Joe Biden, that would strongly infer that Joe Biden is a corrupt motherfucker. Why is the American press not reporting this? Why are social media platforms suppressing this news and banning users? Why is this not on the agenda for the 3rd debate? Donald Trump was correct when he described the media as the “enemy of the people”.
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rusty
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Ohhh that’s the new standard for reportable news is it , that it needs to be “verified”? I guess that means they’ll have to go back and issue retractions for reporting in relation to Russia collusion, Trump’s taxes, Stormy Daniels affair and all the other fake news.
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Burztur
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I reckon he won't participate and call it censorship.
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paulbagzFC
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+xJust another move by the vicious, depraved, ghoulish hordes on the black-hearted, villainous radical left to stifle free speech. If Trump had decent policy standings and an ability to debate, he wouldn't need to shout over Biden. -PB
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Just another move by the vicious, depraved, ghoulish hordes on the black-hearted, villainous radical left to stifle free speech.
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The ultimate power of the sound technician.
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Burztur
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Can you quote the first paragraph of the article for everyone here?
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How farked is the Left wing media- Bidens' son does dodgy deals in Ukraine and they make it about Guiliani first https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/fbi-investigates-foreign-links-to-hunter-biden-s-emails-leak-20201017-p565z6.html"In the 2015 email, the authenticity of which has not been verified, the adviser thanked Biden for setting up a meeting with his father."
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