Fact checkers having a melt down rofl

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Geez rus, you have all the same parroting points as Trump, you could be on that stage (lol)

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Trump talking like its 2016 and he hasn't been in the top job for 4 years

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LOL wind energy kills all the birds.

Fucking hell. 

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Trump is a policy vacuum.  Every single time he's asked what are you going to do about XYZ he just attacks Biden.

Laughable.

Fact checker:  “I know more about wind than you do.” - 100% true 

Byatttt Cheeyyaannaaahhhh

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Biden.  'We'll close down the oil industry'.  I'm betting a lot of Biden's minders just shat their pants.

All fear and smear and no meat and veg lol

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I still have PTSD about this sort of thing from our own election. Even though what he said was 100% correct and reasonable. I hope it works out better over there...

In the closing question, it was “what would you say to the American people on inauguration” and Trump went on a rant about Biden. Was he even listening?

He was way too definite.  He tried to recover but  if  I were  Trump I'd be running that quote on high rotation for the next fortnight.

He should have just said we don't want to close down the oil industry immediately but it is important to move away from it in the long term.

Americans are big on 'my grandad was a coal miner, my dad was a coal miner, I'm a coal miner.'

I think it was a major error.  Particularly because oil is big in the swing states.  There was talk of Texas possibly turning blue but that's off the table now.

No.  

Surprised he didn't bring up 'the server, Benghazi, Obamagate, Clinton's emails etc'.

It was a major error and whether it can be tidied up in the swing states - let alone Texas will be a problem for the Democrats. The only thing I would say though is that the Dems have a lot of money and air time in the swing states and enough time to tidy it up. I would suggest though that he starts using surrogates in particular swing states in the closing days. e.g. Texans want to here from Texans etc.    

Yep agree with both of you.
I've never seriously thought Texas is on the table. If Texas went Blue, there are a lot of others that would have first. Again, while it was all accurate and completely reasonable it will be spun in the usual ways and will do some damage. Hopefully not enough but its a case of being once bitten (or really, half a dozen times bitten), twice shy for me.

Re-watching the debate, Trump really went hard on the whole "you're a politician" and "why didn't you do things when you were VC", crazy it took Biden that long to finally just throw out the Republican Senate.

It's like it's 2016 all over again and Trump is running for the first time ever, he's been in control for 4 years now.

Obama paying out on him all those years ago really struck a nerve.

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Its interesting you single out these two issues which implicitly means you agree to the rest.

And yes most Dems do support 3rd trimester abortion and the murder of viable fully developed foetuses. 

Shutting down the oil industry....

100% correct and reasonable....

Face slap

Biden has won a few polls in Texas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election_in_Texas#Polls

If those 38 votes go his way it'll be a landslide.

What are you expecting the demand for Oil to be in 20 to 30 years?

LoL.  'Implicitly agree.' 

You're the best mate.

For those that aren't Rus.  
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/28/fact-checking-trumps-comments-democrats-late-term-abortion/
https://www.statesman.com/news/20200227/fact-check-do-democrats-support-abortion-up-until-and-after-birth
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kamala-harris-abortion-until-birth/

This is where Biden could have done better. Should have asked everyone to vote Dem down ballot to ensure he can fix it.

“Or with Warren, who said she favored having no restrictions. “The decision whether or not to carry a pregnancy to term is one of the most personal decisions anyone can make,” 

:shudders:

This is a woman who almost became Presidential candidate, not some fringe lunatic in the Bolshevik party. This is the position most Democrats take, they just don’t vocalise it too often. In past Democrats have co- sponsored bills that support removing restrictions on 3rd trimester abortion, which inevitably causes a shit storm and they slink back into their shells, but this is in their hearts what they believe, ripping babies from the womb.

Unfortunately this sort of thing is becoming all the more typical and it's not restricted to the right wing.

Just pick a side and you have an opinion on every hot button issue there is without having to do any independent thinking beyond telling the "other side" that they are evil, wrong etc 100% of the time. 

Rofl



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There's no world where Trump can win overall if he loses in Florida, and he's only won five of the most recent forty polls there, although Florida's own Lil Pump's eloquent endorsement speech may sway some voters, even if it was a little inaccessibly wordy and too intellectual for many potential Trump voters.

I think Texas is turning to be a real contest which is interesting.

The conservatives loving him now despite not knowing he is known to say dumb shit to stay in the spot light.  

Trump has lost a lot of polls there too, but after Biden's clumsy handling of his comments regarding oil (even though I totally agree with shutting down fossil fuels personally) I have lowered my expectations, but if Biden won Texas as well as Florida it absolutely would be a landslide in terms of EC votes for the history books in Washington proportions.

https://twitter.com/Shamils18/status/1322057444483358721?s=09

Timeline of Trump and covid.