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The problem is that people on here seem to think that nepotism is automatically a bad thing. I'm not sure why that is the case when it is neither unlawful nor unethical per se. It is only when the advancement of a relative over others within the organisation on the basis of the relationship rather than on ability that it becomes negative to the organisation and a reflection on the bestower of the favour.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xArticle just goes to show how much more the clubs value keeping Lowy's supposedly "shit" tv deal, over independence... I don’t understand. Give more detail please Why don't you post a lizard picture? You bullied libel for a year or more and now he lives in a special place in your brain. Good on him. I probably don't share much of his views, or even how he puts them at times, but it is interesting that you never attempt to constructively engage and counter his point of view intelligently. You just play dumb. I think it's play? He does come across as somebody who really cares. That is worth a lot in troubled times. It was more of a jibe because what does he expect? That the clubs will walk away from the deal? Time will sort this out. Fox will drop the deal not vice versa. I must live in a special place in yours  dont be fooled that this is a club v fox thing that he paints. My view is simple. It had lost its way from a place for information and forays into banter to a forum of lies, slander and bullying. Probably some truth in that. Could also say that we mirror the wider football community, the diminishing of interest in Australian football is right across the board. What Australian football forums have survived? Remember about 12 years ago how we had many vibrant ones, there's next to nothing now. The gradual loss of hope has been painful to watch. When the history of the A League is written, the Lowys and Gallop will be called to account. A litany of vanity, nepotism and incompetence. Or having initiated the most successful league and standard of professionalism in the country's history. Got Australia into Asia. Successive world cup appearances. Developed a woman's professional league, youth league. Record income into a sport that was on its knees. Led the sport into mainstream acceptance at least multiple times more than it was before. One can go on. But it appears you have forgotten these. Yes, the old FFA eventually lost their way, but what has the current crop of FFA done in their 20 months? It lacks strong leadership. Unable to unite in times of need. Has no pulling power with large sponsors, corporations or government. This is where incompetence is better demonstrated. I agree with most of that, but it is also true that Lowy snr was guilty of nepotism, and on that score, he trashed his reputation and legacy. As for the new board and Chair, yep, you can already see it will add up to a big fat zero, with or without the pandemic, but that's definitely the nail in the coffin. The new Chair has one tenth of the clout Lowy snr had, and with each passing day, that is becoming more and more obvious. For the time being, not sure for how long, but it will definitely be a case of: hello old soccer! where have you been the last 15 years? Amazing how some claim nepotism. The fact that the Consultants searched, identified many and selected Lowy junior as the best candidate is incredibly overlooked as was the unanimous approval of the Board. Theory due to hatred vs facts runs supreme it seems. OK, now I'm sure you're just taking the piss, too. There's no way someone could type that with a straight face. Still waiting for he evidence from someone, anyone, that he was not the best option. Relying on the fact that he is just related to Frank Lowy is piss poor. I can see that self isolation at home isn't working out that well for you. Still no evidence and this is the best you can do. Evidence isn't important when they "feel" they are right.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xArticle just goes to show how much more the clubs value keeping Lowy's supposedly "shit" tv deal, over independence... I don’t understand. Give more detail please Why don't you post a lizard picture? You bullied libel for a year or more and now he lives in a special place in your brain. Good on him. I probably don't share much of his views, or even how he puts them at times, but it is interesting that you never attempt to constructively engage and counter his point of view intelligently. You just play dumb. I think it's play? He does come across as somebody who really cares. That is worth a lot in troubled times. It was more of a jibe because what does he expect? That the clubs will walk away from the deal? Time will sort this out. Fox will drop the deal not vice versa. I must live in a special place in yours dont be fooled that this is a club v fox thing that he paints. My view is simple. It had lost its way from a place for information and forays into banter to a forum of lies, slander and bullying. Probably some truth in that. Could also say that we mirror the wider football community, the diminishing of interest in Australian football is right across the board. What Australian football forums have survived? Remember about 12 years ago how we had many vibrant ones, there's next to nothing now. The gradual loss of hope has been painful to watch. When the history of the A League is written, the Lowys and Gallop will be called to account. A litany of vanity, nepotism and incompetence. Or having initiated the most successful league and standard of professionalism in the country's history. Got Australia into Asia. Successive world cup appearances. Developed a woman's professional league, youth league. Record income into a sport that was on its knees. Led the sport into mainstream acceptance at least multiple times more than it was before. One can go on. But it appears you have forgotten these. Yes, the old FFA eventually lost their way, but what has the current crop of FFA done in their 20 months? It lacks strong leadership. Unable to unite in times of need. Has no pulling power with large sponsors, corporations or government. This is where incompetence is better demonstrated. I agree with most of that, but it is also true that Lowy snr was guilty of nepotism, and on that score, he trashed his reputation and legacy. As for the new board and Chair, yep, you can already see it will add up to a big fat zero, with or without the pandemic, but that's definitely the nail in the coffin. The new Chair has one tenth of the clout Lowy snr had, and with each passing day, that is becoming more and more obvious. For the time being, not sure for how long, but it will definitely be a case of: hello old soccer! where have you been the last 15 years? Amazing how some claim nepotism. The fact that the Consultants searched, identified many and selected Lowy junior as the best candidate is incredibly overlooked as was the unanimous approval of the Board. Theory due to hatred vs facts runs supreme it seems. OK, now I'm sure you're just taking the piss, too. There's no way someone could type that with a straight face. Still waiting for he evidence from someone, anyone, that he was not the best option. Relying on the fact that he is just related to Frank Lowy is piss poor. I can see that self isolation at home isn't working out that well for you. Still no evidence and this is the best you can do.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xArticle just goes to show how much more the clubs value keeping Lowy's supposedly "shit" tv deal, over independence... I don’t understand. Give more detail please Why don't you post a lizard picture? You bullied libel for a year or more and now he lives in a special place in your brain. Good on him. I probably don't share much of his views, or even how he puts them at times, but it is interesting that you never attempt to constructively engage and counter his point of view intelligently. You just play dumb. I think it's play? He does come across as somebody who really cares. That is worth a lot in troubled times. It was more of a jibe because what does he expect? That the clubs will walk away from the deal? Time will sort this out. Fox will drop the deal not vice versa. I must live in a special place in yours dont be fooled that this is a club v fox thing that he paints. My view is simple. It had lost its way from a place for information and forays into banter to a forum of lies, slander and bullying. Probably some truth in that. Could also say that we mirror the wider football community, the diminishing of interest in Australian football is right across the board. What Australian football forums have survived? Remember about 12 years ago how we had many vibrant ones, there's next to nothing now. The gradual loss of hope has been painful to watch. When the history of the A League is written, the Lowys and Gallop will be called to account. A litany of vanity, nepotism and incompetence. Or having initiated the most successful league and standard of professionalism in the country's history. Got Australia into Asia. Successive world cup appearances. Developed a woman's professional league, youth league. Record income into a sport that was on its knees. Led the sport into mainstream acceptance at least multiple times more than it was before. One can go on. But it appears you have forgotten these. Yes, the old FFA eventually lost their way, but what has the current crop of FFA done in their 20 months? It lacks strong leadership. Unable to unite in times of need. Has no pulling power with large sponsors, corporations or government. This is where incompetence is better demonstrated. I agree with most of that, but it is also true that Lowy snr was guilty of nepotism, and on that score, he trashed his reputation and legacy. As for the new board and Chair, yep, you can already see it will add up to a big fat zero, with or without the pandemic, but that's definitely the nail in the coffin. The new Chair has one tenth of the clout Lowy snr had, and with each passing day, that is becoming more and more obvious. For the time being, not sure for how long, but it will definitely be a case of: hello old soccer! where have you been the last 15 years? Amazing how some claim nepotism. The fact that the Consultants searched, identified many and selected Lowy junior as the best candidate is incredibly overlooked as was the unanimous approval of the Board. Theory due to hatred vs facts runs supreme it seems. OK, now I'm sure you're just taking the piss, too. There's no way someone could type that with a straight face. Maybe Popa's two kids at Perth Glory were the only options available as well. :D
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xArticle just goes to show how much more the clubs value keeping Lowy's supposedly "shit" tv deal, over independence... I don’t understand. Give more detail please Why don't you post a lizard picture? You bullied libel for a year or more and now he lives in a special place in your brain. Good on him. I probably don't share much of his views, or even how he puts them at times, but it is interesting that you never attempt to constructively engage and counter his point of view intelligently. You just play dumb. I think it's play? He does come across as somebody who really cares. That is worth a lot in troubled times. It was more of a jibe because what does he expect? That the clubs will walk away from the deal? Time will sort this out. Fox will drop the deal not vice versa. I must live in a special place in yours dont be fooled that this is a club v fox thing that he paints. My view is simple. It had lost its way from a place for information and forays into banter to a forum of lies, slander and bullying. Probably some truth in that. Could also say that we mirror the wider football community, the diminishing of interest in Australian football is right across the board. What Australian football forums have survived? Remember about 12 years ago how we had many vibrant ones, there's next to nothing now. The gradual loss of hope has been painful to watch. When the history of the A League is written, the Lowys and Gallop will be called to account. A litany of vanity, nepotism and incompetence. Or having initiated the most successful league and standard of professionalism in the country's history. Got Australia into Asia. Successive world cup appearances. Developed a woman's professional league, youth league. Record income into a sport that was on its knees. Led the sport into mainstream acceptance at least multiple times more than it was before. One can go on. But it appears you have forgotten these. Yes, the old FFA eventually lost their way, but what has the current crop of FFA done in their 20 months? It lacks strong leadership. Unable to unite in times of need. Has no pulling power with large sponsors, corporations or government. This is where incompetence is better demonstrated. I agree with most of that, but it is also true that Lowy snr was guilty of nepotism, and on that score, he trashed his reputation and legacy. As for the new board and Chair, yep, you can already see it will add up to a big fat zero, with or without the pandemic, but that's definitely the nail in the coffin. The new Chair has one tenth of the clout Lowy snr had, and with each passing day, that is becoming more and more obvious. For the time being, not sure for how long, but it will definitely be a case of: hello old soccer! where have you been the last 15 years? Amazing how some claim nepotism. The fact that the Consultants searched, identified many and selected Lowy junior as the best candidate is incredibly overlooked as was the unanimous approval of the Board. Theory due to hatred vs facts runs supreme it seems. OK, now I'm sure you're just taking the piss, too. There's no way someone could type that with a straight face. Still waiting for he evidence from someone, anyone, that he was not the best option. Relying on the fact that he is just related to Frank Lowy is piss poor. I can see that self isolation at home isn't working out that well for you.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xArticle just goes to show how much more the clubs value keeping Lowy's supposedly "shit" tv deal, over independence... I don’t understand. Give more detail please Why don't you post a lizard picture? You bullied libel for a year or more and now he lives in a special place in your brain. Good on him. I probably don't share much of his views, or even how he puts them at times, but it is interesting that you never attempt to constructively engage and counter his point of view intelligently. You just play dumb. I think it's play? He does come across as somebody who really cares. That is worth a lot in troubled times. It was more of a jibe because what does he expect? That the clubs will walk away from the deal? Time will sort this out. Fox will drop the deal not vice versa. I must live in a special place in yours dont be fooled that this is a club v fox thing that he paints. My view is simple. It had lost its way from a place for information and forays into banter to a forum of lies, slander and bullying. Probably some truth in that. Could also say that we mirror the wider football community, the diminishing of interest in Australian football is right across the board. What Australian football forums have survived? Remember about 12 years ago how we had many vibrant ones, there's next to nothing now. The gradual loss of hope has been painful to watch. When the history of the A League is written, the Lowys and Gallop will be called to account. A litany of vanity, nepotism and incompetence. Or having initiated the most successful league and standard of professionalism in the country's history. Got Australia into Asia. Successive world cup appearances. Developed a woman's professional league, youth league. Record income into a sport that was on its knees. Led the sport into mainstream acceptance at least multiple times more than it was before. One can go on. But it appears you have forgotten these. Yes, the old FFA eventually lost their way, but what has the current crop of FFA done in their 20 months? It lacks strong leadership. Unable to unite in times of need. Has no pulling power with large sponsors, corporations or government. This is where incompetence is better demonstrated. I agree with most of that, but it is also true that Lowy snr was guilty of nepotism, and on that score, he trashed his reputation and legacy. As for the new board and Chair, yep, you can already see it will add up to a big fat zero, with or without the pandemic, but that's definitely the nail in the coffin. The new Chair has one tenth of the clout Lowy snr had, and with each passing day, that is becoming more and more obvious. For the time being, not sure for how long, but it will definitely be a case of: hello old soccer! where have you been the last 15 years? Amazing how some claim nepotism. The fact that the Consultants searched, identified many and selected Lowy junior as the best candidate is incredibly overlooked as was the unanimous approval of the Board. Theory due to hatred vs facts runs supreme it seems. OK, now I'm sure you're just taking the piss, too. There's no way someone could type that with a straight face. Still waiting for he evidence from someone, anyone, that he was not the best option. Relying on the fact that he is just related to Frank Lowy is piss poor.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xArticle just goes to show how much more the clubs value keeping Lowy's supposedly "shit" tv deal, over independence... I don’t understand. Give more detail please Why don't you post a lizard picture? You bullied libel for a year or more and now he lives in a special place in your brain. Good on him. I probably don't share much of his views, or even how he puts them at times, but it is interesting that you never attempt to constructively engage and counter his point of view intelligently. You just play dumb. I think it's play? He does come across as somebody who really cares. That is worth a lot in troubled times. It was more of a jibe because what does he expect? That the clubs will walk away from the deal? Time will sort this out. Fox will drop the deal not vice versa. I must live in a special place in yours dont be fooled that this is a club v fox thing that he paints. My view is simple. It had lost its way from a place for information and forays into banter to a forum of lies, slander and bullying. Probably some truth in that. Could also say that we mirror the wider football community, the diminishing of interest in Australian football is right across the board. What Australian football forums have survived? Remember about 12 years ago how we had many vibrant ones, there's next to nothing now. The gradual loss of hope has been painful to watch. When the history of the A League is written, the Lowys and Gallop will be called to account. A litany of vanity, nepotism and incompetence. Or having initiated the most successful league and standard of professionalism in the country's history. Got Australia into Asia. Successive world cup appearances. Developed a woman's professional league, youth league. Record income into a sport that was on its knees. Led the sport into mainstream acceptance at least multiple times more than it was before. One can go on. But it appears you have forgotten these. Yes, the old FFA eventually lost their way, but what has the current crop of FFA done in their 20 months? It lacks strong leadership. Unable to unite in times of need. Has no pulling power with large sponsors, corporations or government. This is where incompetence is better demonstrated. I agree with most of that, but it is also true that Lowy snr was guilty of nepotism, and on that score, he trashed his reputation and legacy. As for the new board and Chair, yep, you can already see it will add up to a big fat zero, with or without the pandemic, but that's definitely the nail in the coffin. The new Chair has one tenth of the clout Lowy snr had, and with each passing day, that is becoming more and more obvious. For the time being, not sure for how long, but it will definitely be a case of: hello old soccer! where have you been the last 15 years? Amazing how some claim nepotism. The fact that the Consultants searched, identified many and selected Lowy junior as the best candidate is incredibly overlooked as was the unanimous approval of the Board. Theory due to hatred vs facts runs supreme it seems. OK, now I'm sure you're just taking the piss, too. There's no way someone could type that with a straight face.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xArticle just goes to show how much more the clubs value keeping Lowy's supposedly "shit" tv deal, over independence... I don’t understand. Give more detail please Why don't you post a lizard picture? You bullied libel for a year or more and now he lives in a special place in your brain. Good on him. I probably don't share much of his views, or even how he puts them at times, but it is interesting that you never attempt to constructively engage and counter his point of view intelligently. You just play dumb. I think it's play? He does come across as somebody who really cares. That is worth a lot in troubled times. It was more of a jibe because what does he expect? That the clubs will walk away from the deal? Time will sort this out. Fox will drop the deal not vice versa. I must live in a special place in yours dont be fooled that this is a club v fox thing that he paints. My view is simple. It had lost its way from a place for information and forays into banter to a forum of lies, slander and bullying. Probably some truth in that. Could also say that we mirror the wider football community, the diminishing of interest in Australian football is right across the board. What Australian football forums have survived? Remember about 12 years ago how we had many vibrant ones, there's next to nothing now. The gradual loss of hope has been painful to watch. When the history of the A League is written, the Lowys and Gallop will be called to account. A litany of vanity, nepotism and incompetence. Or having initiated the most successful league and standard of professionalism in the country's history. Got Australia into Asia. Successive world cup appearances. Developed a woman's professional league, youth league. Record income into a sport that was on its knees. Led the sport into mainstream acceptance at least multiple times more than it was before. One can go on. But it appears you have forgotten these. Yes, the old FFA eventually lost their way, but what has the current crop of FFA done in their 20 months? It lacks strong leadership. Unable to unite in times of need. Has no pulling power with large sponsors, corporations or government. This is where incompetence is better demonstrated. I agree with most of that, but it is also true that Lowy snr was guilty of nepotism, and on that score, he trashed his reputation and legacy. As for the new board and Chair, yep, you can already see it will add up to a big fat zero, with or without the pandemic, but that's definitely the nail in the coffin. The new Chair has one tenth of the clout Lowy snr had, and with each passing day, that is becoming more and more obvious. For the time being, not sure for how long, but it will definitely be a case of: hello old soccer! where have you been the last 15 years? Amazing how some claim nepotism. The fact that the Consultants searched, identified many and selected Lowy junior as the best candidate is incredibly overlooked as was the unanimous approval of the Board. Theory due to hatred vs facts runs supreme it seems. "Definitely the case of hello old soccer" has even less merit. C’mon, Frank Lowy himself said “this is not a democracy”. Frank made a mistake parachuting his don in there .... the only way Young Lowy could have survived is if he ran a reformist agenda and delivered the reforms we now have You do not know if there were better options. You don't. His control of reforms ended 20 months ago. We do not even have a vision now. So where are the better options? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vnUWxwwszcI
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xArticle just goes to show how much more the clubs value keeping Lowy's supposedly "shit" tv deal, over independence... I don’t understand. Give more detail please Why don't you post a lizard picture? You bullied libel for a year or more and now he lives in a special place in your brain. Good on him. I probably don't share much of his views, or even how he puts them at times, but it is interesting that you never attempt to constructively engage and counter his point of view intelligently. You just play dumb. I think it's play? He does come across as somebody who really cares. That is worth a lot in troubled times. It was more of a jibe because what does he expect? That the clubs will walk away from the deal? Time will sort this out. Fox will drop the deal not vice versa. I must live in a special place in yours dont be fooled that this is a club v fox thing that he paints. My view is simple. It had lost its way from a place for information and forays into banter to a forum of lies, slander and bullying. Probably some truth in that. Could also say that we mirror the wider football community, the diminishing of interest in Australian football is right across the board. What Australian football forums have survived? Remember about 12 years ago how we had many vibrant ones, there's next to nothing now. The gradual loss of hope has been painful to watch. When the history of the A League is written, the Lowys and Gallop will be called to account. A litany of vanity, nepotism and incompetence. Or having initiated the most successful league and standard of professionalism in the country's history. Got Australia into Asia. Successive world cup appearances. Developed a woman's professional league, youth league. Record income into a sport that was on its knees. Led the sport into mainstream acceptance at least multiple times more than it was before. One can go on. But it appears you have forgotten these. Yes, the old FFA eventually lost their way, but what has the current crop of FFA done in their 20 months? It lacks strong leadership. Unable to unite in times of need. Has no pulling power with large sponsors, corporations or government. This is where incompetence is better demonstrated. I agree with most of that, but it is also true that Lowy snr was guilty of nepotism, and on that score, he trashed his reputation and legacy. As for the new board and Chair, yep, you can already see it will add up to a big fat zero, with or without the pandemic, but that's definitely the nail in the coffin. The new Chair has one tenth of the clout Lowy snr had, and with each passing day, that is becoming more and more obvious. For the time being, not sure for how long, but it will definitely be a case of: hello old soccer! where have you been the last 15 years? Amazing how some claim nepotism. The fact that the Consultants searched, identified many and selected Lowy junior as the best candidate is incredibly overlooked as was the unanimous approval of the Board. Theory due to hatred vs facts runs supreme it seems. "Definitely the case of hello old soccer" has even less merit. C’mon, Frank Lowy himself said “this is not a democracy”. Frank made a mistake parachuting his don in there .... the only way Young Lowy could have survived is if he ran a reformist agenda and delivered the reforms we now have You do not know if there were better options. You don't. His control of reforms ended 20 months ago. We do not even have a vision now. So where are the better options?
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I'm one happy to proclaim Lowy snr's role in getting the elite national league off the ground and other big developments, like getting into Asia, I doubt anyone else would have managed it.
But when it comes to the end of his chairmanship, he handed the Chair to his son. That's nepotism, and it was 100% wrong. Casts a huge shadow on his reputation and legacy.
As for the new mob 19 months on, it amounts to a big fat zero, and I don't really have any expectations that they can deliver too much.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xArticle just goes to show how much more the clubs value keeping Lowy's supposedly "shit" tv deal, over independence... I don’t understand. Give more detail please Why don't you post a lizard picture? You bullied libel for a year or more and now he lives in a special place in your brain. Good on him. I probably don't share much of his views, or even how he puts them at times, but it is interesting that you never attempt to constructively engage and counter his point of view intelligently. You just play dumb. I think it's play? He does come across as somebody who really cares. That is worth a lot in troubled times. It was more of a jibe because what does he expect? That the clubs will walk away from the deal? Time will sort this out. Fox will drop the deal not vice versa. I must live in a special place in yours dont be fooled that this is a club v fox thing that he paints. My view is simple. It had lost its way from a place for information and forays into banter to a forum of lies, slander and bullying. Probably some truth in that. Could also say that we mirror the wider football community, the diminishing of interest in Australian football is right across the board. What Australian football forums have survived? Remember about 12 years ago how we had many vibrant ones, there's next to nothing now. The gradual loss of hope has been painful to watch. When the history of the A League is written, the Lowys and Gallop will be called to account. A litany of vanity, nepotism and incompetence. Or having initiated the most successful league and standard of professionalism in the country's history. Got Australia into Asia. Successive world cup appearances. Developed a woman's professional league, youth league. Record income into a sport that was on its knees. Led the sport into mainstream acceptance at least multiple times more than it was before. One can go on. But it appears you have forgotten these. Yes, the old FFA eventually lost their way, but what has the current crop of FFA done in their 20 months? It lacks strong leadership. Unable to unite in times of need. Has no pulling power with large sponsors, corporations or government. This is where incompetence is better demonstrated. I agree with most of that, but it is also true that Lowy snr was guilty of nepotism, and on that score, he trashed his reputation and legacy. As for the new board and Chair, yep, you can already see it will add up to a big fat zero, with or without the pandemic, but that's definitely the nail in the coffin. The new Chair has one tenth of the clout Lowy snr had, and with each passing day, that is becoming more and more obvious. For the time being, not sure for how long, but it will definitely be a case of: hello old soccer! where have you been the last 15 years? Amazing how some claim nepotism. The fact that the Consultants searched, identified many and selected Lowy junior as the best candidate is incredibly overlooked as was the unanimous approval of the Board. Theory due to hatred vs facts runs supreme it seems. "Definitely the case of hello old soccer" has even less merit. C’mon, Frank Lowy himself said “this is not a democracy”. Frank made a mistake parachuting his don in there .... the only way Young Lowy could have survived is if he ran a reformist agenda and delivered the reforms we now have
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xArticle just goes to show how much more the clubs value keeping Lowy's supposedly "shit" tv deal, over independence... I don’t understand. Give more detail please Why don't you post a lizard picture? You bullied libel for a year or more and now he lives in a special place in your brain. Good on him. I probably don't share much of his views, or even how he puts them at times, but it is interesting that you never attempt to constructively engage and counter his point of view intelligently. You just play dumb. I think it's play? He does come across as somebody who really cares. That is worth a lot in troubled times. It was more of a jibe because what does he expect? That the clubs will walk away from the deal? Time will sort this out. Fox will drop the deal not vice versa. I must live in a special place in yours dont be fooled that this is a club v fox thing that he paints. My view is simple. It had lost its way from a place for information and forays into banter to a forum of lies, slander and bullying. Probably some truth in that. Could also say that we mirror the wider football community, the diminishing of interest in Australian football is right across the board. What Australian football forums have survived? Remember about 12 years ago how we had many vibrant ones, there's next to nothing now. The gradual loss of hope has been painful to watch. When the history of the A League is written, the Lowys and Gallop will be called to account. A litany of vanity, nepotism and incompetence. Frank never delivered on hosting a WC or pro rel. Expansion was too slow. People got bored with their product. mixed in with tough fan regulations and politics has lead to people also being turned off the product.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xArticle just goes to show how much more the clubs value keeping Lowy's supposedly "shit" tv deal, over independence... I don’t understand. Give more detail please Why don't you post a lizard picture? You bullied libel for a year or more and now he lives in a special place in your brain. Good on him. I probably don't share much of his views, or even how he puts them at times, but it is interesting that you never attempt to constructively engage and counter his point of view intelligently. You just play dumb. I think it's play? He does come across as somebody who really cares. That is worth a lot in troubled times. It was more of a jibe because what does he expect? That the clubs will walk away from the deal? Time will sort this out. Fox will drop the deal not vice versa. I must live in a special place in yours dont be fooled that this is a club v fox thing that he paints. My view is simple. It had lost its way from a place for information and forays into banter to a forum of lies, slander and bullying. Probably some truth in that. Could also say that we mirror the wider football community, the diminishing of interest in Australian football is right across the board. What Australian football forums have survived? Remember about 12 years ago how we had many vibrant ones, there's next to nothing now. The gradual loss of hope has been painful to watch. When the history of the A League is written, the Lowys and Gallop will be called to account. A litany of vanity, nepotism and incompetence. Or having initiated the most successful league and standard of professionalism in the country's history. Got Australia into Asia. Successive world cup appearances. Developed a woman's professional league, youth league. Record income into a sport that was on its knees. Led the sport into mainstream acceptance at least multiple times more than it was before. One can go on. But it appears you have forgotten these. Yes, the old FFA eventually lost their way, but what has the current crop of FFA done in their 20 months? It lacks strong leadership. Unable to unite in times of need. Has no pulling power with large sponsors, corporations or government. This is where incompetence is better demonstrated. I agree with most of that, but it is also true that Lowy snr was guilty of nepotism, and on that score, he trashed his reputation and legacy. As for the new board and Chair, yep, you can already see it will add up to a big fat zero, with or without the pandemic, but that's definitely the nail in the coffin. The new Chair has one tenth of the clout Lowy snr had, and with each passing day, that is becoming more and more obvious. For the time being, not sure for how long, but it will definitely be a case of: hello old soccer! where have you been the last 15 years? Amazing how some claim nepotism. The fact that the Consultants searched, identified many and selected Lowy junior as the best candidate is incredibly overlooked as was the unanimous approval of the Board. Theory due to hatred vs facts runs supreme it seems. "Definitely the case of hello old soccer" has even less merit. Claim nepotism?? Ffs Paul it was nepotism pure and simple. It's jumping to conclusion and no evidence. You mean one can not have a member of his family employed by the same organization because that's perceived as nepotism? Or is it really hatred of the Lowy's behind all his? Please, give us a break.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xArticle just goes to show how much more the clubs value keeping Lowy's supposedly "shit" tv deal, over independence... I don’t understand. Give more detail please Why don't you post a lizard picture? You bullied libel for a year or more and now he lives in a special place in your brain. Good on him. I probably don't share much of his views, or even how he puts them at times, but it is interesting that you never attempt to constructively engage and counter his point of view intelligently. You just play dumb. I think it's play? He does come across as somebody who really cares. That is worth a lot in troubled times. It was more of a jibe because what does he expect? That the clubs will walk away from the deal? Time will sort this out. Fox will drop the deal not vice versa. I must live in a special place in yours dont be fooled that this is a club v fox thing that he paints. My view is simple. It had lost its way from a place for information and forays into banter to a forum of lies, slander and bullying. Probably some truth in that. Could also say that we mirror the wider football community, the diminishing of interest in Australian football is right across the board. What Australian football forums have survived? Remember about 12 years ago how we had many vibrant ones, there's next to nothing now. The gradual loss of hope has been painful to watch. When the history of the A League is written, the Lowys and Gallop will be called to account. A litany of vanity, nepotism and incompetence. Or having initiated the most successful league and standard of professionalism in the country's history. Got Australia into Asia. Successive world cup appearances. Developed a woman's professional league, youth league. Record income into a sport that was on its knees. Led the sport into mainstream acceptance at least multiple times more than it was before. One can go on. But it appears you have forgotten these. Yes, the old FFA eventually lost their way, but what has the current crop of FFA done in their 20 months? It lacks strong leadership. Unable to unite in times of need. Has no pulling power with large sponsors, corporations or government. This is where incompetence is better demonstrated. I agree with most of that, but it is also true that Lowy snr was guilty of nepotism, and on that score, he trashed his reputation and legacy. As for the new board and Chair, yep, you can already see it will add up to a big fat zero, with or without the pandemic, but that's definitely the nail in the coffin. The new Chair has one tenth of the clout Lowy snr had, and with each passing day, that is becoming more and more obvious. For the time being, not sure for how long, but it will definitely be a case of: hello old soccer! where have you been the last 15 years? Amazing how some claim nepotism. The fact that the Consultants searched, identified many and selected Lowy junior as the best candidate is incredibly overlooked as was the unanimous approval of the Board. Theory due to hatred vs facts runs supreme it seems. "Definitely the case of hello old soccer" has even less merit. Claim nepotism?? Ffs Paul it was nepotism pure and simple.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xArticle just goes to show how much more the clubs value keeping Lowy's supposedly "shit" tv deal, over independence... I don’t understand. Give more detail please Why don't you post a lizard picture? You bullied libel for a year or more and now he lives in a special place in your brain. Good on him. I probably don't share much of his views, or even how he puts them at times, but it is interesting that you never attempt to constructively engage and counter his point of view intelligently. You just play dumb. I think it's play? He does come across as somebody who really cares. That is worth a lot in troubled times. It was more of a jibe because what does he expect? That the clubs will walk away from the deal? Time will sort this out. Fox will drop the deal not vice versa. I must live in a special place in yours dont be fooled that this is a club v fox thing that he paints. My view is simple. It had lost its way from a place for information and forays into banter to a forum of lies, slander and bullying. Probably some truth in that. Could also say that we mirror the wider football community, the diminishing of interest in Australian football is right across the board. What Australian football forums have survived? Remember about 12 years ago how we had many vibrant ones, there's next to nothing now. The gradual loss of hope has been painful to watch. When the history of the A League is written, the Lowys and Gallop will be called to account. A litany of vanity, nepotism and incompetence. Or having initiated the most successful league and standard of professionalism in the country's history. Got Australia into Asia. Successive world cup appearances. Developed a woman's professional league, youth league. Record income into a sport that was on its knees. Led the sport into mainstream acceptance at least multiple times more than it was before. One can go on. But it appears you have forgotten these. Yes, the old FFA eventually lost their way, but what has the current crop of FFA done in their 20 months? It lacks strong leadership. Unable to unite in times of need. Has no pulling power with large sponsors, corporations or government. This is where incompetence is better demonstrated. I agree with most of that, but it is also true that Lowy snr was guilty of nepotism, and on that score, he trashed his reputation and legacy. As for the new board and Chair, yep, you can already see it will add up to a big fat zero, with or without the pandemic, but that's definitely the nail in the coffin. The new Chair has one tenth of the clout Lowy snr had, and with each passing day, that is becoming more and more obvious. For the time being, not sure for how long, but it will definitely be a case of: hello old soccer! where have you been the last 15 years? Amazing how some claim nepotism. The fact that the Consultants searched, identified many and selected Lowy junior as the best candidate is incredibly overlooked as was the unanimous approval of the Board. Theory due to hatred vs facts runs supreme it seems. "Definitely the case of hello old soccer" has even less merit.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xArticle just goes to show how much more the clubs value keeping Lowy's supposedly "shit" tv deal, over independence... I don’t understand. Give more detail please Why don't you post a lizard picture? You bullied libel for a year or more and now he lives in a special place in your brain. Good on him. I probably don't share much of his views, or even how he puts them at times, but it is interesting that you never attempt to constructively engage and counter his point of view intelligently. You just play dumb. I think it's play? He does come across as somebody who really cares. That is worth a lot in troubled times. It was more of a jibe because what does he expect? That the clubs will walk away from the deal? Time will sort this out. Fox will drop the deal not vice versa. I must live in a special place in yours dont be fooled that this is a club v fox thing that he paints. My view is simple. It had lost its way from a place for information and forays into banter to a forum of lies, slander and bullying. Probably some truth in that. Could also say that we mirror the wider football community, the diminishing of interest in Australian football is right across the board. What Australian football forums have survived? Remember about 12 years ago how we had many vibrant ones, there's next to nothing now. The gradual loss of hope has been painful to watch. When the history of the A League is written, the Lowys and Gallop will be called to account. A litany of vanity, nepotism and incompetence. Or having initiated the most successful league and standard of professionalism in the country's history. Got Australia into Asia. Successive world cup appearances. Developed a woman's professional league, youth league. Record income into a sport that was on its knees. Led the sport into mainstream acceptance at least multiple times more than it was before. One can go on. But it appears you have forgotten these. Yes, the old FFA eventually lost their way, but what has the current crop of FFA done in their 20 months? It lacks strong leadership. Unable to unite in times of need. Has no pulling power with large sponsors, corporations or government. This is where incompetence is better demonstrated. I agree with most of that, but it is also true that Lowy snr was guilty of nepotism, and on that score, he trashed his reputation and legacy. As for the new board and Chair, yep, you can already see it will add up to a big fat zero, with or without the pandemic, but that's definitely the nail in the coffin. The new Chair has one tenth of the clout Lowy snr had, and with each passing day, that is becoming more and more obvious. For the time being, not sure for how long, but it will definitely be a case of: hello old soccer! where have you been the last 15 years?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xArticle just goes to show how much more the clubs value keeping Lowy's supposedly "shit" tv deal, over independence... I don’t understand. Give more detail please Why don't you post a lizard picture? You bullied libel for a year or more and now he lives in a special place in your brain. Good on him. I probably don't share much of his views, or even how he puts them at times, but it is interesting that you never attempt to constructively engage and counter his point of view intelligently. You just play dumb. I think it's play? He does come across as somebody who really cares. That is worth a lot in troubled times. It was more of a jibe because what does he expect? That the clubs will walk away from the deal? Time will sort this out. Fox will drop the deal not vice versa. I must live in a special place in yours dont be fooled that this is a club v fox thing that he paints. My view is simple. It had lost its way from a place for information and forays into banter to a forum of lies, slander and bullying. Probably some truth in that. Could also say that we mirror the wider football community, the diminishing of interest in Australian football is right across the board. What Australian football forums have survived? Remember about 12 years ago how we had many vibrant ones, there's next to nothing now. A lot of that is also due to forums in general being 'superseded' by social media. It has happened across not just sports forums but other areas too. Although you could argue that these sorts of boards were the very first forms of social media, but yes, they probably have been superseded by newer forms.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xArticle just goes to show how much more the clubs value keeping Lowy's supposedly "shit" tv deal, over independence... I don’t understand. Give more detail please Why don't you post a lizard picture? You bullied libel for a year or more and now he lives in a special place in your brain. Good on him. I probably don't share much of his views, or even how he puts them at times, but it is interesting that you never attempt to constructively engage and counter his point of view intelligently. You just play dumb. I think it's play? He does come across as somebody who really cares. That is worth a lot in troubled times. It was more of a jibe because what does he expect? That the clubs will walk away from the deal? Time will sort this out. Fox will drop the deal not vice versa. I must live in a special place in yours dont be fooled that this is a club v fox thing that he paints. My view is simple. It had lost its way from a place for information and forays into banter to a forum of lies, slander and bullying. Probably some truth in that. Could also say that we mirror the wider football community, the diminishing of interest in Australian football is right across the board. What Australian football forums have survived? Remember about 12 years ago how we had many vibrant ones, there's next to nothing now. The gradual loss of hope has been painful to watch. When the history of the A League is written, the Lowys and Gallop will be called to account. A litany of vanity, nepotism and incompetence. Or having initiated the most successful league and standard of professionalism in the country's history. Got Australia into Asia. Successive world cup appearances. Developed a woman's professional league, youth league. Record income into a sport that was on its knees. Led the sport into mainstream acceptance at least multiple times more than it was before. One can go on. But it appears you have forgotten these. Yes, the old FFA eventually lost their way, but what has the current crop of FFA done in their 20 months? It lacks strong leadership. Unable to unite in times of need. Has no pulling power with large sponsors, corporations or government. This is where incompetence is better demonstrated.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xArticle just goes to show how much more the clubs value keeping Lowy's supposedly "shit" tv deal, over independence... I don’t understand. Give more detail please Why don't you post a lizard picture? You bullied libel for a year or more and now he lives in a special place in your brain. Good on him. I probably don't share much of his views, or even how he puts them at times, but it is interesting that you never attempt to constructively engage and counter his point of view intelligently. You just play dumb. I think it's play? He does come across as somebody who really cares. That is worth a lot in troubled times. It was more of a jibe because what does he expect? That the clubs will walk away from the deal? Time will sort this out. Fox will drop the deal not vice versa. I must live in a special place in yours dont be fooled that this is a club v fox thing that he paints. My view is simple. It had lost its way from a place for information and forays into banter to a forum of lies, slander and bullying. Probably some truth in that. Could also say that we mirror the wider football community, the diminishing of interest in Australian football is right across the board. What Australian football forums have survived? Remember about 12 years ago how we had many vibrant ones, there's next to nothing now. A lot of that is also due to forums in general being 'superseded' by social media. It has happened across not just sports forums but other areas too.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xArticle just goes to show how much more the clubs value keeping Lowy's supposedly "shit" tv deal, over independence... I don’t understand. Give more detail please Why don't you post a lizard picture? You bullied libel for a year or more and now he lives in a special place in your brain. Good on him. I probably don't share much of his views, or even how he puts them at times, but it is interesting that you never attempt to constructively engage and counter his point of view intelligently. You just play dumb. I think it's play? He does come across as somebody who really cares. That is worth a lot in troubled times. It was more of a jibe because what does he expect? That the clubs will walk away from the deal? Time will sort this out. Fox will drop the deal not vice versa. I must live in a special place in yours dont be fooled that this is a club v fox thing that he paints. My view is simple. It had lost its way from a place for information and forays into banter to a forum of lies, slander and bullying. Probably some truth in that. Could also say that we mirror the wider football community, the diminishing of interest in Australian football is right across the board. What Australian football forums have survived? Remember about 12 years ago how we had many vibrant ones, there's next to nothing now. The gradual loss of hope has been painful to watch. When the history of the A League is written, the Lowys and Gallop will be called to account. A litany of vanity, nepotism and incompetence.
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+x+x+x+x+xArticle just goes to show how much more the clubs value keeping Lowy's supposedly "shit" tv deal, over independence... I don’t understand. Give more detail please Why don't you post a lizard picture? You bullied libel for a year or more and now he lives in a special place in your brain. Good on him. I probably don't share much of his views, or even how he puts them at times, but it is interesting that you never attempt to constructively engage and counter his point of view intelligently. You just play dumb. I think it's play? He does come across as somebody who really cares. That is worth a lot in troubled times. It was more of a jibe because what does he expect? That the clubs will walk away from the deal? Time will sort this out. Fox will drop the deal not vice versa. I must live in a special place in yours dont be fooled that this is a club v fox thing that he paints. My view is simple. It had lost its way from a place for information and forays into banter to a forum of lies, slander and bullying. Probably some truth in that. Could also say that we mirror the wider football community, the diminishing of interest in Australian football is right across the board. What Australian football forums have survived? Remember about 12 years ago how we had many vibrant ones, there's next to nothing now.
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+x+x+xArticle just goes to show how much more the clubs value keeping Lowy's supposedly "shit" tv deal, over independence... I don’t understand. Give more detail please Why don't you post a lizard picture? You bullied libel for a year or more and now he lives in a special place in your brain. Good on him. I probably don't share much of his views, or even how he puts them at times, but it is interesting that you never attempt to constructively engage and counter his point of view intelligently. You just play dumb. I think it's play? He does come across as somebody who really cares. That is worth a lot in troubled times. Fucking lol, you serious dude? -PB
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSo Optus announced they would start broadcasting marble racing on April Fools. Shame because the videos on Youtube of marble racing are actually pretty fun. personally, it seemed pretty poor taste on the part of Optus What have they done wrong? Have Optus themselves ever actually publicly shown interest in the AL, and can they be considered leading us on? Because all I see is a big company either: - making our lives better by giving live anything (if not a joke) - having some light hearted fun (if a joke) Optus has offended forumites since we expect them to swoop in and be our white knight. OPTUS: we'll give you $20M per season, for 6 years FFA: um, but that's not nearly enough. we need at least $40M to stay alive OPTUS: we'll give you $25M FFA: um. please? OPTUS: we'll stick with EPL If, and it is a big if, Optus want the A League they will pay considerably more than that. Not because the current product is worth it, but because they want the product to be worth it to drive NBN contracts away from Telstra. J-League A-League and EPL would be a good start. I think you overestimate the HAL pulling power. If the HALs pulling power is only 150,000 it’s worth over $100m to a Telco. If that is true then 200,000 is worth $133.3m to a telco 250,000 is worth $166.6m to a telco 300,000 is worth $200m to a telco 350,000 is worth $233.33m to a telco 400,000 is worth $266.66m to a telco 450,000 is worth $300,000 to a telco 500,000 is worth $333.33m to a telco If you are a telco and thought that 150,000 is a low ball number for new NBN subscriptions then you could offer up to that $100m a year with little prospect of a loss. By giving the 'product' for want of a better word the money to operate and market effectively the chances are a larger number of subscriptions is likely to grow. And each subscription from there on in is icing on the cake. If that Telco is Optus who has the EPL and J-League already the added content of the HAL gives a real incentive to move away from Telstra and Foxtel. You can get the Optus app and pay $14.99 a month for Optus sport, without an Optus plan. This would get you all the football on Optus. For $180.00 a year. Thats less than $30 million a year. Its available free on SOME optus plans - the expensive ones. But why pay for an expensive Optus plan, when you can be on a cheap one, with anybody, and get Optus sport for an extra $15.00 And 150 000 is lowball? Really. And your talking incremental numbers here. You have to take the number of people who might be interested in paying Optus for the A league, and subtract all those already paying Optus for the what they already have. I would consider 150000 high ball, like, really high ball. And the idea that Optus would return all the value of new subscribers to the A league, even if they could determine how many that was. Ludicrous. Based on, the idea with exposure, a larger number of subscriptions is likely to grow? Wasnt that the FTA plan. More exposure would grow the supporter base? But there is LESS exposure on Optus, you have to have Optus sport to watch, the people exposed are the ones that already have it. The point is the NBN has close to 7 million connections. Optus have 15% of that market. If they can grow their NBN market by bundling in a Fetch box with football like the ones they have in the EPL and J League then there is a huge upside in that market. The only suggestion about returning all the value to the A League was if they thought there was an upside that did not turn out. You might also notice that my first line was - if that is true. You are looking at it from the football consumer side saying I can get football for $15. I'm looking at it from the telco side looking to increase my market share in a lucrative market by attracting them through football - not just the A League but a growing stable.
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+x+x+x+xArticle just goes to show how much more the clubs value keeping Lowy's supposedly "shit" tv deal, over independence... I don’t understand. Give more detail please Why don't you post a lizard picture? You bullied libel for a year or more and now he lives in a special place in your brain. Good on him. I probably don't share much of his views, or even how he puts them at times, but it is interesting that you never attempt to constructively engage and counter his point of view intelligently. You just play dumb. I think it's play? He does come across as somebody who really cares. That is worth a lot in troubled times. It was more of a jibe because what does he expect? That the clubs will walk away from the deal? Time will sort this out. Fox will drop the deal not vice versa. I must live in a special place in yours dont be fooled that this is a club v fox thing that he paints. ROFLMAO. I don't think about you at all, or care, or ever will beyond the moment I read the trash in this thread and the few memories it brought forth. There was a great gnashing of teeth a while back here about why people had stopped coming. My view is simple. It had lost its way from a place for information and forays into banter to a forum of lies, slander and bullying. The moderators also removed the characters that made the place interesting. No more Ardthro, Nikk or COYS. Not because they were "ist" or indulged in "isms" but because the attacks on them were constant from a loud minority. Maybe you can get them to remove Libel too. Maybe they've learnt. More lizard pics thanks. The joy! Listen. You might hear the laughter from your distant hideyhole. Listen!
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+x+x+x+xArticle just goes to show how much more the clubs value keeping Lowy's supposedly "shit" tv deal, over independence... I don’t understand. Give more detail please Why don't you post a lizard picture? You bullied libel for a year or more and now he lives in a special place in your brain. Good on him. I probably don't share much of his views, or even how he puts them at times, but it is interesting that you never attempt to constructively engage and counter his point of view intelligently. You just play dumb. I think it's play? He does come across as somebody who really cares. That is worth a lot in troubled times. I am certain Libel is just here to get a rise out of people. 
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+xArticle just goes to show how much more the clubs value keeping Lowy's supposedly "shit" tv deal, over independence... They'd sell their mother at the moment to keep the deal, make no mistake.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSo Optus announced they would start broadcasting marble racing on April Fools. Shame because the videos on Youtube of marble racing are actually pretty fun. personally, it seemed pretty poor taste on the part of Optus What have they done wrong? Have Optus themselves ever actually publicly shown interest in the AL, and can they be considered leading us on? Because all I see is a big company either: - making our lives better by giving live anything (if not a joke) - having some light hearted fun (if a joke) Optus has offended forumites since we expect them to swoop in and be our white knight. OPTUS: we'll give you $20M per season, for 6 years FFA: um, but that's not nearly enough. we need at least $40M to stay alive OPTUS: we'll give you $25M FFA: um. please? OPTUS: we'll stick with EPL If, and it is a big if, Optus want the A League they will pay considerably more than that. Not because the current product is worth it, but because they want the product to be worth it to drive NBN contracts away from Telstra. J-League A-League and EPL would be a good start. I think you overestimate the HAL pulling power. If the HALs pulling power is only 150,000 it’s worth over $100m to a Telco. If that is true then 200,000 is worth $133.3m to a telco 250,000 is worth $166.6m to a telco 300,000 is worth $200m to a telco 350,000 is worth $233.33m to a telco 400,000 is worth $266.66m to a telco 450,000 is worth $300,000 to a telco 500,000 is worth $333.33m to a telco If you are a telco and thought that 150,000 is a low ball number for new NBN subscriptions then you could offer up to that $100m a year with little prospect of a loss. By giving the 'product' for want of a better word the money to operate and market effectively the chances are a larger number of subscriptions is likely to grow. And each subscription from there on in is icing on the cake. If that Telco is Optus who has the EPL and J-League already the added content of the HAL gives a real incentive to move away from Telstra and Foxtel. You can get the Optus app and pay $14.99 a month for Optus sport, without an Optus plan. This would get you all the football on Optus. For $180.00 a year. Thats less than $30 million a year. Its available free on SOME optus plans - the expensive ones. But why pay for an expensive Optus plan, when you can be on a cheap one, with anybody, and get Optus sport for an extra $15.00 And 150 000 is lowball? Really. And your talking incremental numbers here. You have to take the number of people who might be interested in paying Optus for the A league, and subtract all those already paying Optus for the what they already have. I would consider 150000 high ball, like, really high ball. And the idea that Optus would return all the value of new subscribers to the A league, even if they could determine how many that was. Ludicrous. Based on, the idea with exposure, a larger number of subscriptions is likely to grow? Wasnt that the FTA plan. More exposure would grow the supporter base? But there is LESS exposure on Optus, you have to have Optus sport to watch, the people exposed are the ones that already have it.
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+x+x+x+xA-League on Optus Sport seems like a fait accompli now. +xpretty shitty thing for foxtel to drop on the league. using the virus as an excuse to get out of the contract. fuck them. Fox definitely has form in this kind of thing. If the A-League is set back 3-5 years as others have said, it's still 'better' than the 20+ years they set back the NRL. Foxtels model is a strange beast. 10 years ago, you would watch foxtel on your TV only and had to pay $100 for the installation on the box.... Nows its on your ipad or laptop to watch.... Can The Hyundai A-league help optus? Again, Imagine if they can lure 100,000 suscribers at $50 a month? that is 5 million a month or 60 million a year or 30 million for 6 months of the A-league.
It reminds me of the NBA with NBA TV. The NBA has its own streaming service on the website In recent years an interesting saying has popped up in media & advertising circles that "every brand shoud be it's own media company" which is essentially saying that you can control the direction & exposure of your product more directly by broadcasting it yourself. Something for the FFA to think about. If like Scotty from Marketing is talking about that this lockdown bullshit is going to go on for months then the day after it ends things aren't going to go back to normal because by the time that happens there isn't going to be anything left to be able to restart the league in a normal manner. Perhaps they should consider broadcasting things themselves when this is all over. What is a certainty that the previous sticking out the begging bowl for TV money to fund the governing body & clubs operations is finished. My partner is a front-line Medical professional and they are expecting 6 months to at least and possibly longer - a lot of them are thinking that normality, such as it becomes, will only return when we have a vaccine, which is 15 months away. I think it should be 5 years, the country's economy can go to the dogs.
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+xArticle just goes to show how much more the clubs value keeping Lowy's supposedly "shit" tv deal, over independence... yes. they value existing revenue over finding new revenue sources in a time when such sources are probably not available. your trolls are boring.
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+x+x+xArticle just goes to show how much more the clubs value keeping Lowy's supposedly "shit" tv deal, over independence... I don’t understand. Give more detail please Why don't you post a lizard picture? You bullied libel for a year or more and now he lives in a special place in your brain. Good on him. I probably don't share much of his views, or even how he puts them at times, but it is interesting that you never attempt to constructively engage and counter his point of view intelligently. You just play dumb. I think it's play? He does come across as somebody who really cares. That is worth a lot in troubled times. No he doesn't. He presents as a troll who is sorely lacking in worthwhile things to do with his time.
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